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Cass · 16-01-2021 3:21pm

I cannot find an answer online so any ideas? Why is the national guard being deployed if its a virtual inauguration and no people can get tickets and are being told to stay away?

If 10,000, 100,000 or 1,000,000 turn up will it be ok because its biden?

Grizzly 45 · 16-01-2021 3:41pm

Tradition...It's how you swear dictators in,in any 3rd world tinpot dictatorship:rolleyes:.
Apprently they are worried that "armed patriots" are planning an insurrection on all 50 state Capitals as well as DC,on Biden's dictator crowning day.

Seeing that there is now proof that ANTIFA was involved in the Capitol attack, one of them even with an embedded CNN reporter and another Daniel Allan Baker who trained in Syria with YPK, financed by Soros, has admitted to planning to kill Trump supporters and police at the riots.
So probably that's why they have dumped 10K worth of weekend warriors into DC. Worried about another false flag event.

Grizzly 45 · 16-01-2021 3:51pm

tomtucker81 wrote: »

A few things happen if the impeachment is successful.
He loses the right to ever run again for election. He loses the Presidents pension. (no sweat for him)
He loses the former President security detail.
And as said, it stops any last minute pardons from having effect.
It then leaves him open to prosecution for actions taken- the incitement of the crowd to storm the Capital.

The first few points are largely symbolic, he's not going to be stuck for the pension money nor short to get his own security.
I believe the last point is what's really sought. For the same reason, the 25th being invoked would have handed Trump an instant defence to any criminal charges or impeachment- not of sound mind.

Except the whole thing is now just a show by the Dems. Pence wrote to Pelosi and said he isn't doing this as it will just aggravate things further if there was an impeachment, and plus the fact the Senate can only take it up on the 21st of Jan when Trump is now a civilian again and unimpeachable.

Also, it then sets a precedent if they were to push it to try and impeach him as a civilian, that then Barrack Obama and Killary Clinton could also be impeached for their handling of Benghazi were 3 Americans lost their lives.

The main reason they want this is, so he can never run again for office as president in 4 years time.

Grizzly 45 · 16-01-2021 4:02pm

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2020 CZ to Colt "How much do you want for this fire distressed sale of a former mighty company?"

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tudderone · 16-01-2021 4:03pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Except the whole thing is now just a show by the Dems. Pence wrote to Pelosi and said he isn't doing this as it will just aggravate things further if there was an impeachment, and plus the fact the Senate can only take it up on the 21st of Jan when Trump is now a civilian again and unimpeachable.

Also, it then sets a precedent if they were to push it to try and impeach him as a civilian, that then Barrack Obama and Killary Clinton could also be impeached for their handling of Benghazi were 3 Americans lost their lives.

The main reason they want this is, so he can never run again for office as president in 4 years time.

I doubt he would bother anyway, he would be heading for 80 years of age.

Also i see the prime minister of Poland has said if these media sites like facebook twitter etc try and censor the Polish he will kick them out. I am sure this has been richly and comprehensively reported on , on RTE ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/14/poland-plans-to-make-censoring-of-social-media-accounts

Grizzly 45 · 16-01-2021 5:19pm

2 million euro per week fine from the Polish govt if any social media removes a post or blocks a poster.Be interesting to see as FB is in Ireland and come under Irish law I believe to have to deal with this?

Be the same age as the future sniffer in cheif in 4 ...IF he decides to run again..I'd tip on Pompero being the next choice. Seems to be doing Trojan work on pulling stuff down for ol sniffer to have to fix in his first 100days.

Cass · 16-01-2021 10:44pm

Reading some stories, from main stream media outlets in case anyone thinks its social media nonsense, and the stuff biden is doing and planning and he hasn't even got into office yet is scary.

Pushing congress to grant $10,000 relief, per student, for all student loan
Gun registration
Tax on each gun and magazine (up to $200 per)
Grant NY an additional $2 BILLION aid (which Trump denied because of Cuomo's bad handling of finances)

He is not alone either. Democrats have also submitted bills for:

The banning of certain types of guns
Full registration of all guns (same as biden)
Push for businesses to reopen to try recover the economy (what they called "mindless murder" a few weeks ago under Trump)

All of this on the back of pelosi admitting that democrats, her specifically, held up relief aid to Americans for 8 months as a political move.

Going to be an interesting two years.

Cass · 16-01-2021 10:50pm

Back home i notice how FG gave membership back to some the golfgate gang. Slipped that one in nicely without too much fuss.

That is the trouble with these times. The chinese virus is being as an excuse to pass legislation as well as other things without proper consultation because, safety, and stuff. That on top of the "i don't have to answer to you" attitude shown by senior ministers.

Munsterlad102 · 16-01-2021 10:53pm

Cass wrote: »

Reading some stories, from main stream media outlets in case anyone thinks its social media nonsense, and the stuff biden is doing and planning and he hasn't even got into office yet is scary.
Pushing congress to grant $10,000 relief, per student, for all student loan

Gun registration

Tax on each gun and magazine (up to $200 per)

Grant NY an additional $2 BILLION aid (which Trump denied because of Cuomo's bad handling of finances)

He is not alone either. Democrats have also submitted bills for:
The banning of certain types of guns

Full registration of all guns (same as biden)

Push for businesses to reopen to try recover the economy (what they called "mindless murder" a few weeks ago under Trump)

All of this on the back of pelosi admitting that democrats, her specifically, held up relief aid to Americans for 8 months as a political move.

Going to be an interesting two years.

What guns are they trying to ban? Just ARs and AKs or what?

tudderone · 16-01-2021 11:27pm

Shiela Jackson (jackass ?) Lee has five gun control bills coming up in the next few weeks. Biden has said he will act on gun control on day one, getting Beto O'Rourke on the case :rolleyes:.

He wants to reenact the Clinton Assault weapons ban, and make manufacturers liable for crimes committed with their products. I wonder will he be making car manufacturers liable for people doing getaways, or computer manufacturers liable for online fraud scams ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-AA9BGgg8k

tudderone · 16-01-2021 11:37pm

This video was upped on YT and was removed as it supposedly broke YT rules, it didn't, it was censorship pure and simple. Anyway a way was found around it.

Grizzly 45 · 17-01-2021 12:57am

And yet we have the woman Lauren Bobbet who told Beto "Hell No you are not getting our guns !" Voted into Congress and carrying her Glock in Congress to piss off Pelosi and the antis .As well as DC being one of the still most gun banned and violent cities in the US,wouldn't blame her.

Grizzly 45 · 17-01-2021 1:02am

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

What guns are they trying to ban? Just ARs and AKs or what?

EVERYTHING that they can under those very vauge definitions.It would even include Fudd guns that have particular features.IOW any gun that could accept a detachable mag,or mag extension would be fair game.Its the assault weapon ban of the 1990s on steroids.

Cass · 17-01-2021 2:37am

Annndddd now FB are doing the ground work for proposed legislation.

A NY democratic lawmaker wants to ban the purchase/sale of bulletproof (ridiculous name) vests and other forms of body armor for anyone to own bar LEOs. In a city with a 97% increase in shooting and 44% increase in murders in just the last year, coupled with some of the worst firearm ownership laws in the country, it makes sense to further stop the citizens from protecting themselves even if that protection only comes in the form of an actual "protective shield". IOW passive protection.

Where does FB come into this?

They announced today they are banning all sales of firearm accessories and equipment for "just a few days" but will review it after the 22nd. What accessories could be so dangerous as to merit a ban.

Gun safes, holsters and you guessed it, protective gear such as vests.

Mellor · 17-01-2021 3:18am

Cass wrote: »

I cannot find an answer online so any ideas? Why is the national guard being deployed if its a virtual inauguration and no people can get tickets and are being told to stay away?

If 10,000, 100,000 or 1,000,000 turn up will it be ok because its biden?

I imagine due to the recent issues in Capitol Hill. People were allowed storm the Capitol building with weapons. But it happen.
NG were also deployed for BLM in Capitol.

Mellor · 17-01-2021 3:29am

Cass wrote: »

Where does FB come into this?

They announced today they are banning all sales of firearm accessories and equipment for "just a few days" but will review it after the 22nd. What accessories could be so dangerous as to merit a ban.

Gun safes, holsters and you guessed it, protective gear such as vests.

FB doesn’t sell any of those items, and can’t control or prevent the sale of those items.

tudderone · 17-01-2021 3:31am

The NRA has just filed for bankrupcy protection, could be the perfect storm for gun owners in America right about now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/national-rifle-association-files-bankruptcy-citing-n-y-politics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIutuoZ7gLg

Cass · 17-01-2021 12:01pm

Mellor wrote: »

FB doesn’t sell any of those items, and can’t control or prevent the sale of those items.

You do see the link i provided where it states:

"We already prohibit ads for weapons, ammunition and weapon enhancements like silencers. But we will now also prohibit ads for accessories such as gun safes, vests and gun holsters in the US," Facebook said.

So yes they allow the advertisement/sale of such items and yes they are preventing the sale of them on FB.

Cass · 17-01-2021 12:06pm

Mellor wrote: »

I imagine due to the recent issues in Capitol Hill.

But people have been denied tickets and told to stay away. So if they believe people will turn up why do it at all? Ego? Pride?

Would it not be better to have it indoors, in a low key, private ceremony with only those who absolutely need to attend there?

Why run the risk of your "supporters" turning up or taking the chance of those opposed to you turning up?

Cass · 17-01-2021 12:17pm

Some conspiracies just write themselves.

Christopher Stanton Georgia, the bank manager who took pelosi's laptop from the capitol protest, was found dead in his basement by his wife. The coroner says it was suicide, a single gunshot to the chest.

He was looking at a max of 3 months imprisonment and $1000 fine for his part in the protests, but you have to ask why a 53 yr old bank manager facing such a light sentence (at the worst) would top himself.

Cass · 17-01-2021 12:32pm

As i said above some conspiracy theories write themselves.

Son of a state supreme court judge cries in court when faced with possible ten years in jail. Funny part is he is a member of antifa and his Father and him are both registered democrats.

Speaking of antifa i don't see on the news anything about antifa members instigating violence that day, although the news is quick to point the finger at so called right wingers, they are ignoring the amount of antifa members there that were arrested such as john sullivan.

I've linked to the politico "reporting" of the story for two reasons. Firstly so i cannot be accused of spreading "right wing lies" by linking to Fox, OAN, or newsmax, and secondly its funny to me how politico are trying desperately to report on the news while actively working to squash any chance that what they are reporting on is exactly what it is by excusing away the obvious facts.

By the way for anyone saying politico is a central or unbiased news agency, you should read the sh*t storm that is going on within the company as their own eat each other because the management allowed Ben Shapiro to write and have published a piece. Free speech is under attack as any opposing view points are being attacked with the cancel culture.

Munsterlad102 · 17-01-2021 12:47pm

Cass wrote: »

Some conspiracies just write themselves.

Christopher Stanton Georgia, the bank manager who took pelosi's laptop from the capitol protest, was found dead in his basement by his wife. The coroner says it was suicide, a single gunshot to the chest.

He was looking at a max of 3 months imprisonment and $1000 fine for his part in the protests, but you have to ask why a 53 yr old bank manager facing such a light sentence (at the worst) would top himself.

This reminds me of the journalist who "committed suicide" with two shots to the head with a revolver.

Cass · 17-01-2021 1:20pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

This reminds me of the journalist who "committed suicide" with two shots to the head with a revolver.

Yeah i remember that. He was thorough. :rolleyes:

Cass · 17-01-2021 1:23pm

See its all kicking off in the netherlands. Entire government resigns over child welfare scandal.

Seems to be a placating gesture as the party is most likely to retain it's seats and be the next government, but still, for an entire governmental cabinet to resign! Lessons could be learned here where our ministers don't even have respect for one another let alone the citizens that elect them.

Listen to him curse under his breath.

Grizzly 45 · 17-01-2021 1:48pm

Cass wrote: »

But people have been denied tickets and told to stay away. So if they believe people will turn up why do it at all? Ego? Pride?

Would it not be better to have it indoors, in a low key, private ceremony with only those who absolutely need to attend there?

Why run the risk of your "supporters" turning up or taking the chance of those opposed to you turning up?

If you need 10,000 troops at your inaguration ,maybe you weren't elected legally?

Grizzly 45 · 17-01-2021 1:51pm

Cass wrote: »

Some conspiracies just write themselves.

Christopher Stanton Georgia, the bank manager who took pelosi's laptop from the capitol protest, was found dead in his basement by his wife. The coroner says it was suicide, a single gunshot to the chest.

He was looking at a max of 3 months imprisonment and $1000 fine for his part in the protests, but you have to ask why a 53 yr old bank manager facing such a light sentence (at the worst) would top himself.

Another scuidided by Hillary.

Grizzly 45 · 17-01-2021 2:03pm

tudderone wrote: »

The NRA has just filed for bankrupcy protection, could be the perfect storm for gun owners in America right about now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/national-rifle-association-files-bankruptcy-citing-n-y-politics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIutuoZ7gLg

A chapter 11 is not a biggie,lots of companies do this to restructure and refinace themelves in the USA on a yearly basis.
But the way "Tiny" Mike NYC based anti gun and Trump and vote buying media outlet Blomberg news is writing this,makes it sound that the NRA is penniless and doing a midnight flit out of NY.

Be as it may the NRA needs to do some house cleaning.The LaPierre dynasty must go,as they have been using the NRA as a cash cow for much too long,and doing too much compromising on legislation.

BattleCorp · 17-01-2021 2:40pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

EVERYTHING that they can under those very vauge definitions.It would even include Fudd guns that have particular features.IOW any gun that could accept a detachable mag,or mag extension would be fair game.Its the assault weapon ban of the 1990s on steroids.

What happens in the States when they talk about a gun ban? Gun popularity goes up about 100000%.

Munsterlad102 · 17-01-2021 2:42pm

Cass wrote: »

Yeah i remember that. He was thorough. :rolleyes:

In case he missed:D

Cass · 17-01-2021 3:04pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

If you need 10,000 troops at your inauguration ,maybe you weren't elected legally?

I don't subscribe to that tbh. Whether you believe he stole the election or not there are always troops and protection at each inauguration, granted this one is extreme and the reason for my question relates to the 300% (absolute guess on that figure) increase in protection when there can be no public assembly.

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