Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

tudderone

A lot of shooters in America no longer support the NRA. They became more concerned about making money than fighting their corner.

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

A lot of shooters in America no longer support the NRA. They became more concerned about making money than fighting their corner.

NRA has to dump La Pew and his oligarchy, trim off a lot of fat and get back in the ring and quit handing Republicans money for nothing and compromising on the 2nd .Its now no compromise or go home.

Rows Grower

I was impressed with President Biden's speech earlier, comes across as a genuine gentleman that's learned a lot in life and still has a lot to offer.

He's a breath of fresh air after the last holder of the office.

Grizzly 45

As an American, I'm actually ASHAMED today to be one and to see what sort of a dictator we crowned on the steps of the Capitol.

We have NO idea what this senile old puppet and his literal whore of a VP will do to America..Well actually we do going by his ramblings and set agenda for him to reduce the US to a 3rd World country...Well, you all made your Biden beds.Lie in them now...God help us all in the West is all I can say.:(:(:(:(:(:(

Rows Grower

The wise money seems to believe President Biden is going to make America great again...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2021/01/20/dow-jumps-biden-inauguration-day-morgan-stanley-netflix-earnings-blowout/

tudderone

Rows Grower wrote: »

The wise money seems to believe President Biden is going to make America great again...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2021/01/20/dow-jumps-biden-inauguration-day-morgan-stanley-netflix-earnings-blowout/

It was said, grudgingly, on the television today, that under Trump, there was record low levels of unemployment, more black, asian and latino and white people in work, and he had cut taxes, including corporate tax. He tried to put an end to American companies moving production to the far east (probably why bill gates, musk and all the champagne socialists don't like him). He unlike most of his predecessors had started no wars or got the USA involved in armed conflicts, he didn't interfere in anything to do with the second amendment, but thats not enough it seems.

Rows Grower

tudderone wrote: »

It was said, grudgingly, on the television today, that under Trump, there was record low levels of unemployment, more black, asian and latino and white people in work, and he had cut taxes, including corporate tax. He tried to put an end to American companies moving production to the far east (probably why bill gates, musk and all the champagne socialists don't like him). He unlike most of his predecessors had started no wars or got the USA involved in armed conflicts, he didn't interfere in anything to do with the second amendment, but thats not enough it seems.

In all fairness there's a lot more than them didn't like him and with good reason.

Grizzly 45

Well, let's see if ol sniffer retires with a 51% satisfaction rate on his retirement day[hopefully soonest] According to the Rasmussen poll done yesterday.

https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/01/19/president-trump-finishes-with-51-job-approval-from-american-voters-new-poll-shows/

Higher Black and Hispanics voted for him than Obama and Clinton 2nd time rund...Which apparently is some kind of" inverse white rascism " in the Hispanics case according to Obama.

Mellor

tudderone wrote: »

It was said, grudgingly, on the television today, that under Trump, there was record low levels of unemployment, more black, asian and latino and white people in work, and he had cut taxes, including corporate tax. He tried to put an end to American companies moving production to the far east (probably why bill gates, musk and all the champagne socialists don't like him). He unlike most of his predecessors had started no wars or got the USA involved in armed conflicts, he didn't interfere in anything to do with the second amendment, but thats not enough it seems.

Unemployment hit a low number, not a record low but lowest since the 60s.
It also hit a extremely high number, highest since the 20s.
That's an unusual statistically distinction to have. I don't think should lay the high unemployment solely at his feet, so I'd question why we solely credit him for a decrease that started in 2010.

The wars point is something that gets thrown about alot. Sometimes with varying logic on how war is defined. He certainly participated in wars, as much as the previous.
Obama inherited Afghanistan, so did Trump, so will Biden. Iraq depends on how you date it.

Nixon also started no wars, as he inherited Vietnam. "Started" isn't a good measurement for a warmongeriness of a president imo.

Rows Grower

He must have lost substantial support so from the people that originally voted him in.

tudderone

Mellor wrote: »

Unemployment hit a low number, not a record low but lowest since the 60s.
It also hit a extremely high number, highest since the 20s.
That's an unusual statistically distinction to have. I don't think should lay the high unemployment solely at his feet, so I'd question why we solely credit him for a decrease that started in 2010.

The wars point is something that gets thrown about alot. Sometimes with varying logic on how war is defined. He certainly participated in wars, as much as the previous.
Obama inherited Afghanistan, so did Trump, so will Biden. Iraq depends on how you date it.

Nixon also started no wars, as he inherited Vietnam. "Started" isn't a good measurement for a warmongeriness of a president imo.

Covid 19 ?

tudderone

Rows Grower wrote: »

He must have lost substantial support so from the people that originally voted him in.

I think its the American electoral college system. Killary had more people vote for her over Trump, but because of the system he still won.

Grizzly 45

Mellor wrote: »

The wars point is something that gets thrown about alot. Sometimes with varying logic on how war is defined. He certainly participated in wars, as much as the previous.
Obama inherited Afghanistan, so did Trump, so will Biden. Iraq depends on how you date it.

Nixon also started no wars, as he inherited Vietnam. "Started" isn't a good measurement for a warmongeriness of a president imo.

Did they aggravate them might be a better choice of words?

Rows Grower

tudderone wrote: »

I think its the American electoral college system. Killary had more people vote for her over Trump, but because of the system he still won.

I read somewhere that Trump lost a lot of votes from the white higher educated voters which doesn't surprise me.

He made a complete balls of trying to manage the Covid pandemic with 400,000 lives lost under his watch, he was impeached twice and left office with millions more unemployed than when he entered.

He refused to acknowledge defeat and then caused the riots in Capitol Hill just to top off his legacy. What a guy.

tudderone

Rows Grower wrote: »

I read somewhere that Trump lost a lot of votes from the white higher educated voters which doesn't surprise me.

He made a complete balls of trying to manage the Covid pandemic with 400,000 lives lost under his watch, he was impeached twice and left office with millions more unemployed than when he entered.

He refused to acknowledge defeat and then caused the riots in Capitol Hill just to top off his legacy. What a guy.

It hit everyone offguard, Germany is a very well run country, none of the gob****e-ism we have to suffer here, and they are in a right mess with the virus and the vaccine roll-out, Merkel is up in arms over it.

tudderone

An interesting twist, counties in Texas voting for 2nd amendment sanctuary, meaning federal gun control laws would have no impact on them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6TRRnkAHE4

Mellor

tudderone wrote: »

Covid 19 ?

Did you miss this line?

Mellor wrote: »

I don't think should lay the high unemployment solely at his feet

The point is you can't credit a president with being responsible with low unemployment if you aren't going to credit them with the highs.
The reality is, there are extenuating factors in both.
Covid for the highs, obviously. For the lows, it's been trending down for a decade.

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Did they aggravate them might be a better choice of words?

It definitely would. But I'm not sure how we're measure that objectively.
Drone strikes? deaths? troops?

tudderone wrote: »

It hit everyone offguard, Germany is a very well run country, none of the gob****e-ism we have to suffer here, and they are in a right mess with the virus and the vaccine roll-out, Merkel is up in arms over it.

Covid caught a lot of people off, and in many cases there is nothing you could have done.
But many countries made really bad decisions, many leaders publically mishandles it, and just fcked up to be blunt. They should be open to criticism for those decisions.

Example, Boris going to a covid ward and making a point of shaking everybodies hand. Then announcing he did so. Then catching covid. Not the actions of a smart or competent leader.

Cass

As per the post title the future of this thread rests with you, the forum members.

So have your say now.

Cass

So after a fair decision process the result is:




Resume posting.

Feisar

Cass wrote: »

So after a fair decision process the result is:




Resume posting.

We all know Grizz made about ten accounts to vote!:D

Cass

............. and thats low balling it.

Grizzly 45

Hey!! If it worked for the Democrats.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Munsterlad102

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Hey!! If it worked for the Democrats.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I hope you did a better job of hiding the other votes:D:D:D:D:D:D

civdef

The people have spoken, the bastards.

Or was it a stolen election

Cass

Fecking Russians. Is nothing sacred?????????

Cass

Anyone else notice petrol/Diesel prices creeping up?

Read an article in the Mirror last night on it and it says that while the price of a barrel of oil has risen, slightly, it should only cause a 1p/1.2c increase at the pumps but that price hike is being applied immediately by the vendors (petrol stations) instead of when the "new" shipment of fuel/oil arrives and the addiditonal 3 to 4p/c rise is simply down to the stations adding it on due to the significant drop in usage (between 55 - 63% drop in consumption since the start of the lockdowns).

Grolschevik

That'll be those commie bastards and their capitalist EUSSR overlords with thair climatist plangenda. Wait until those anarchist antifa software billionaires activate that 6G chip in us from the rushed Big Pharma polio vaccine in the false flag epidemic of the 1950s, and we won't even notice that Cuba won't let us cut turf any more!

Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this!

Birdnuts

Cass wrote: »

Anyone else notice petrol/Diesel prices creeping up?

Read an article in the Mirror last night on it and it says that while the price of a barrel of oil has risen, slightly, it should only cause a 1p/1.2c increase at the pumps but that price hike is being applied immediately by the vendors (petrol stations) instead of when the "new" shipment of fuel/oil arrives and the addiditonal 3 to 4p/c rise is simply down to the stations adding it on due to the significant drop in usage (between 55 - 63% drop in consumption since the start of the lockdowns).

Yes - the obvious cartel being operated in many towns/cities is beyond laughable at this stage as is the obvious price gouging. All happening thanx to the sorry state of consumer protection in this country:(

Cass

Grolschevik wrote: »

Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this!

Not even close. :rolleyes:

Cass

Birdnuts wrote: »

Yes - the obvious cartel being operated in many towns/cities is beyond laughable .........(

Happening everywhere and the article was on about the UK too. Same thing happening there.

Minimal change in the price of oil, but disproportionate increase at the pumps.