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[Diabetes] General Chat and Support Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The Hba1c criteria was anything greater than 59 iirc.
    That said, I had my 1st AZ dose in late March and my Hba1c was 45.

    I think that every one of the consultant led clinics forwarded all their patients to the HSE, at least in Limerick.
    I was also offered a Vax by my GP as part of their cohort 4 rollout in mid April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    I had my clinic appointment yesterday and the consultant told me they put everyone on the list regardless of type or Hba1c. I told him I was surprised to get called because my Hba1c is good and he saidcit said it was an administrative decision not a clinical one to put the number at 58 and it made no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I had my clinic appointment yesterday and the consultant told me they put everyone on the list regardless of type or Hba1c. I told him I was surprised to get called because my Hba1c is good and he saidcit said it was an administrative decision not a clinical one to put the number at 58 and it made no sense.

    A family member asked about the lists in Tallaght and was told it was based on the HbA1c and hers was under the 58 so not in cohort 4 .Now this was a few weeks ago so possibly changed now .She has heard nothing at all yet? Could it be possible they are sorting by age too ? She is 30+?


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Taeholic


    my last hba1c was 51 which i believe means it is controlled yet I was called quite early. I still location played a part.

    That's what I gathered from the HSE website when they first launched the rollout and cohorts but the reality seems to be quite different. Location is quite possibly a factor too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    A family member asked about the lists in Tallaght and was told it was based on the HbA1c and hers was under the 58 so not in cohort 4 .Now this was a few weeks ago so possibly changed now .She has heard nothing at all yet? Could it be possible they are sorting by age too ? She is 30+?

    I'm with Beaumont so different hospitals may differ in their approach. The lack of consistency is causing confusion and frustration for people. When I got my jab it was a mixture of all ages attending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I'm with Beaumont so different hospitals may differ in their approach. The lack of consistency is causing confusion and frustration for people. When u got my jab it was a mixture of all ages attending.

    i'm with beaumont as well and well under 58 and I got mine early. to be honest the cutoff point of 58 was completely arbitrary so Beaumont seem to have ignored it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Wanton


    I got my text from the Mater last night asking me if I wanted to be put forward.

    Already had my first Pfizer jab via my GP, but looks like they may be starting to move through the list there. My hba1c is below the "threshold", so yeah, who know how its been worked out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Daughter just got a date next Thursday for the vaccine . Cohort 7 via her consultant in Tallaght .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Daughter just got a date next Thursday for the vaccine . Cohort 7 via her consultant in Tallaght .
    Curious, weren't there other people in cohort 7 in Tallaght who were done along with cohort 4? Saw quite a few reports of that here and elsewhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Curious, weren't there other people in cohort 7 in Tallaght who were done along with cohort 4? Saw quite a few reports of that here and elsewhere.

    Honestly not sure to be honest , maybe age mattered too ? She is 30+ and Type 1


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Honestly not sure to be honest , maybe age mattered too ? She is 30+ and Type 1

    Don't think age is a factor, I think despite the guidelines, it is clinic dependent. A Type 1 beside me who is 15 years younger than me was called in a few weeks before me, not sure where he is based. I was called in seemingly before many here and my HbA1C is well below the threshold. I'd say some clinics are doing it and others have admin staff doing it and they have been told for ease or concern on patient data, just send all the names and work through them. Even more inconsistently some here seem to be getting pushed through by their GP, and others by their clinic so who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Just something I noticed with myself, after the vaccine my insulin was less effective for a few days, It happened after the first Vaccine but I thought maybe I made a mistake some where but it has happened again after the 2nd vaccine where I would eat the same food and take the same insulin that I normally would but my blood sugar jumps up almost double what it usually does in such situations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Just something I noticed with myself, after the vaccine my insulin was less effective for a few days, It happened after the first Vaccine but I thought maybe I made a mistake some where but it has happened again after the 2nd vaccine where I would eat the same food and take the same insulin that I normally would but my blood sugar jumps up almost double what it usually does in such situations.

    You're not alone.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    For anybody who is interested

    I am 49, Type 2

    Have been waiting quite some time for the doc to call me

    Rocked up to the Vaccination Centre in the Midlands Park Hotel in Portlaoise today with my PPSN number and ID, and my prescription.

    No problems getting registered and my first jab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭leche solara


    Had my 2nd Pfizer vaccine at 10:50 this morning and have felt fine since. Took a blood reading at 17:30 just before my dinner this evening and it was 14.5. At the same time on the day of my first jab 4 weeks ago it was 4.8. I have never had a reading as high as 14.5 before. I'm a type 2 on Metformin. I assume the figure will drop of its own accord and I'll take a few more readings through the evening to keep an eye on it. Is there anything I should do to get the number down or do I just let nature take its course. I feel no different to normal. I don't even have a sore arm.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Taeholic


    Had my 2nd Pfizer vaccine at 10:50 this morning and have felt fine since. Took a blood reading at 17:30 just before my dinner this evening and it was 14.5. At the same time on the day of my first jab 4 weeks ago it was 4.8. I have never had a reading as high as 14.5 before. I'm a type 2 on Metformin. I assume the figure will drop of its own accord and I'll take a few more readings through the evening to keep an eye on it. Is there anything I should do to get the number down or do I just let nature take its course. I feel no different to normal. I don't even have a sore arm.


    My readings went berserk for a week after my first dose of AZ. I'm on injections so the only advice I can give you is keep a good eye on your bg and keep hydrated. I would also suggest you ring your diabetes clinic tomorrow so they can give you suitable advice, given your medical history etc Especially given the clinic will be closed over the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭leche solara


    Taeholic wrote: »
    My readings went berserk for a week after my first dose of AZ. I'm on injections so the only advice I can give you is keep a good eye on your bg and keep hydrated. I would also suggest you ring your diabetes clinic tomorrow so they can give you suitable advice, given your medical history etc Especially given the clinic will be closed over the weekend.

    Checked again at 8pm and it was down to 5.1. If it's still all over the place tomorrow morning I'll call the clinic. Thanks for the advice.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Mine running slightly lower than usual since my second jab of Moderna but it could be unrelated. Either way I am fully covered now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Taeholic


    Checked again at 8pm and it was down to 5.1. If it's still all over the place tomorrow morning I'll call the clinic. Thanks for the advice.


    That's brilliant hopefully it was a one off. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, the vaccine is new to us all and we've all had such variation in terms of how it has effected each of us individually. Definitely call your clinic but hopefully you won't need to. Best of luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    ebbsy wrote: »
    For anybody who is interested

    I am 49, Type 2

    Have been waiting quite some time for the doc to call me

    Rocked up to the Vaccination Centre in the Midlands Park Hotel in Portlaoise today with my PPSN number and ID, and my prescription.

    No problems getting registered and my first jab.

    Im getting mine on Thursday.Im 48 type 2 with sleep apnea and an anerusym.I dont do things by half:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    Does anyone know where to pick up Dextro or Lift at a reasonable price, brexit has made the usual amazon sellers stop shipping to Ireland. Thanks! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    dubstarr wrote: »
    Im getting mine on Thursday.Im 48 type 2 with sleep apnea and an anerusym.I dont do things by half:D


    Yeah well I managed to give myself Diabetic Retinopathy.

    Does that top your sleep apnea and an anerusym ? :D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    SomeFool wrote: »
    Does anyone know where to pick up Dextro or Lift at a reasonable price, brexit has made the usual amazon sellers stop shipping to Ireland. Thanks! :)

    Lift is included in the LTI. Get your doctor to put it on your prescription.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Lift is included in the LTI. Get your doctor to put it on your prescription.

    This.
    Dextro and possibly other Glucose gels and sweets are available via the LTI too.
    So it likely isn't an issue a diabetic would normally encounter.
    It could impact on those who use gels for running, cycling or other fitness pursuits a bit heavily though.

    From the HSE by way of a reply to https://theartisandiabetic.ie/lti-scheme-for-people-who-have-diabetes/
    “I wish to advise you that I checked your query with the HSE Primary Care Reimbursement Services and they advised me that there is no codes for the three items you listed in your email. The Pharmacist can send the three items as a claim as uncoded items under Code 77750 and attach a copy of the invoice.

    Alternatively, your Pharmacist can contact the Drugs Unit/Pharmacy Functions Unit in the HSE Primary Care Reimbursement Services and they will advise them with regard to the above process. I trust this is of assistance.’



    There have been rumours that Dextrose Gel, which is used to treat hypoglycaemia (low blood sugar) by people with insulin dependent diabetes was no longer on the list of approved items. As per above this is not the case. The items I enquired about are still covered under the LTI scheme. Your pharmacy just has to send a copy of the invoice for the products under code 77750 and they will be reimbursed.

    I always find staff on the HSE helplines very helpful. This query was answered very quickly. If you are concerned about your entitlements it is always better to check it out rather than worrying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    2nd dose (moderna) yesterday. Sore arm again, very tired today but no negative effects beyond that. HSE set-up was exemplary again. Great work from them despite everything going on in the background.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Had my second Astra Zeneca yesterday.

    Don't seem to have any symptoms, unless a very mild headache last night which could equally have been caused by a rowdy 5 year old, and there doesn't seem to be any wild swings with my BG readings either this time round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    robinph wrote: »
    Had my second Astra Zeneca yesterday.

    Don't seem to have any symptoms, unless a very mild headache last night which could equally have been caused by a rowdy 5 year old, and there doesn't seem to be any wild swings with my BG readings either this time round.

    How was the reaction to the first one? It floored me! So much so that I won’t take it again/ I’d rather have Covid. But curious to see how others reacted first time round in comparison to the second jab.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


    2nd Pfizer this week, no reaction as regards even arm soreness, only thing was and may not be related but a bit tired for two days and did not sleep well last couple of nights, all seems back to normal now this evening


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    ddarcy wrote: »
    How was the reaction to the first one? It floored me! So much so that I won’t take it again/ I’d rather have Covid. But curious to see how others reacted first time round in comparison to the second jab.

    A complete anecdote but anyone I know who got hammered by AZ had Covid previously, could you have had it?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    ddarcy wrote: »
    How was the reaction to the first one? It floored me! So much so that I won’t take it again/ I’d rather have Covid. But curious to see how others reacted first time round in comparison to the second jab.

    Had a pretty rough night after the first jab with shivers and headache, but by the morning it was mostly fine other than the lack of sleep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    CramCycle wrote: »
    A complete anecdote but anyone I know who got hammered by AZ had Covid previously, could you have had it?

    If I did it would have been with no symptoms. I also live in an area that doesn’t have high rates of Covid in Sligo. It’s been pretty non existent in my town


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    CramCycle wrote: »
    A complete anecdote but anyone I know who got hammered by AZ had Covid previously, could you have had it?

    Think it's entirely random. One friend who had covid pretty bad in January, and they were close to calling an ambulance for them, but they had zero symptoms from the vaccine. I'd had a very close call in not catching covid at the same time as them from minding their kid for a day when they were definitely positive but I did get vaccine symptoms, whilst my wife only had arm numbness (although that was Moderna). Other families caught up in the same circle when that case was doing the rounds in our group had all avoided infection, and seems entirely random who got symptoms. Think all of us (other than my wife) got Astra Zeneca.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    CramCycle wrote: »
    A complete anecdote but anyone I know who got hammered by AZ had Covid previously, could you have had it?

    I was completely hammered by my first dose of AZ but definitely did not have covid before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    ddarcy wrote: »
    How was the reaction to the first one? It floored me! So much so that I won’t take it again/ I’d rather have Covid. But curious to see how others reacted first time round in comparison to the second jab.

    The majority of people I know who got AZ felt flu like symptoms after the first vaccine but no affects with the second one. Vice versa for Pfizer. But this is just word on the street stuff.

    Did you talk to your GP? Personally I would and weigh the benefits of full protection with AZ vs risking Covid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    There's no consistency with the side effects so it's best to hope for the best every time, rather than assume it'll create a bad reaction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭davork


    Had my second AZ last Sunday - blood sugar was a little crazy (11's!!!) in the mornings after the second until this morning... no side effects after either jab (1st was in March).

    I had COVID back in Jan 2020 after a NYE party in the US (long story), as did at least one other - of course we all thought it was just flu - I ended up with COVID fog for months, but that seems to have moved on thankfully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,023 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    May I ask what Pre Diabetic means. I have a Thyroid Illness know as Greaves with a number of side effects, including High Cholesterol and Blood pressure, both requiring additional medication along with Management of Greaves Disease. I see an endocrinologist every six months.

    I've now been advised I am pre diabetic, not entirely sure what this may mean but have been advised to watch diet which I honestly do.

    I'm just wondering is it just a cautious advisory or is it likely I'll develop diabetes, my be a tricky question to ask.

    Thanks in advance

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    May I ask what Pre Diabetic means. I have a Thyroid Illness know as Greaves with a number of side effects, including High Cholesterol and Blood pressure, both requiring additional medication along with Management of Greaves Disease. I see an endocrinologist every six months.

    I've now been advised I am pre diabetic, not entirely sure what this may mean but have been advised to watch diet which I honestly do.

    I'm just wondering is it just a cautious advisory or is it likely I'll develop diabetes, my be a tricky question to ask.

    Thanks in advance

    It means your blood glucose levels are elevated but not enough to be classed as diabetic. If you keep going as you are you will most likely develop diabetes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,023 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    It means your blood glucose levels are elevated but not enough to be classed as diabetic. If you keep going as you are you will most likely develop diabetes.

    Thanks much for that quick response and clarification, appreciated :)

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭banjobongo


    hi guys
    quick question - re the libre sensor, somebody posted on this thread a few weeks ago a product on Amazon, a protective band for the sensor when doing activity sports, it looked good but when I clicked on it the message was that they did not deliver to Ireland....anybody know where I can find and order such a product that can be delivered in IReland?


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭frosty123


    Was looking for a medical note from GP for potential employment...he found my blood pressure to be high so he wrote down "hypertension", I said that sounds bad could you write down above average blood pressure instead...he said NO! "I'm using the medical term" was he a bit mean? I mean the job application could hinge on this...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    banjobongo wrote: »
    hi guys
    quick question - re the libre sensor, somebody posted on this thread a few weeks ago a product on Amazon, a protective band for the sensor when doing activity sports, it looked good but when I clicked on it the message was that they did not deliver to Ireland....anybody know where I can find and order such a product that can be delivered in IReland?
    An arm warmer like what cyclists or triathletes use might do the job?
    frosty123 wrote: »
    Was looking for a medical note from GP for potential employment...he found my blood pressure to be high so he wrote down "hypertension", I said that sounds bad could you write down above average blood pressure instead...he said NO! "I'm using the medical term" was he a bit mean? I mean the job application could hinge on this...
    As a matter of interest, does the job require that you be in peak physical condition? My partner went in for one organised by the company years ago, specifically asked a question and my partner specifically told them she didn't want to answer a specific question. Nurse doing the test said no problem, it is none of their business. Could you GP just write you a letter saying you are fit for work? Very few jobs can exclude you in Ireland for a preexisting condition AFAIK.


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭frosty123


    CramCycle wrote: »

    As a matter of interest, what does the job require that you be in peak physical condition?

    Postman


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Taeholic


    Has anyone any advice on how to keep BG under control in the sun? I'm on fast acting insulin since the end of September so today is only the 2nd real day of sun. Both times my BG dropped quite significantly after lunch.

    Eg pre lunch reading was 9.8, which is higher than normal but I was starving. I took 3 units and ate 34g carbs (bread) an hour later I'm at 5 and feeling like I'm having a hypo.

    I was wearing a sun hat, had sun factor on, cool breeze on the beach so I didn't feel very warm. I was in the sun for 2 hours in total. Any tips to stop this happening?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    banjobongo wrote: »
    hi guys
    quick question - re the libre sensor, somebody posted on this thread a few weeks ago a product on Amazon, a protective band for the sensor when doing activity sports, it looked good but when I clicked on it the message was that they did not deliver to Ireland....anybody know where I can find and order such a product that can be delivered in IReland?
    frosty123 wrote: »
    Postman

    As a matter of interest did he measure it again before you left. There is a scenario I remember in the NHS that a lot of stress and money would be saved if GPs took you BP twice, once near the start and once right before you finish. Lots of things can increase your BP a bit but only temporarily, and getting it measured at the start yours could have been elevated due to stress alone as you believe your job relies on this. At the 2nd measurement, you accept you have already gotten it done so there is none of this mental pressure, and you will have been sitting near rest for a few minutes as well.

    If your in Dublin/Wicklow I can lend you a BP monitor for you to use and see can it be lower outside of surgery, if it is, book another appointment, explain why you think it might have been elevated, and ask can it be redone (or go to s different GP if that is possible).

    I know from work that if I sat still for a minute mine would drop significantly, but also there was one co worker, and on days they came in my BP increased by almost 30/30. My other co worker noticed the correlation and found it comical. This persons mere presence caused me to have significantly higher BP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    CramCycle wrote: »
    As a matter of interest did he measure it again before you left. There is a scenario I remember in the NHS that a lot of stress and money would be saved if GPs took you BP twice, once near the start and once right before you finish. Lots of things can increase your BP a bit but only temporarily, and getting it measured at the start yours could have been elevated due to stress alone as you believe your job relies on this. At the 2nd measurement, you accept you have already gotten it done so there is none of this mental pressure, and you will have been sitting near rest for a few minutes as well.

    If your in Dublin/Wicklow I can lend you a BP monitor for you to use and see can it be lower outside of surgery, if it is, book another appointment, explain why you think it might have been elevated, and ask can it be redone (or go to s different GP if that is possible).

    I know from work that if I sat still for a minute mine would drop significantly, but also there was one co worker, and on days they came in my BP increased by almost 30/30. My other co worker noticed the correlation and found it comical. This persons mere presence caused me to have significantly higher BP.

    White coat syndrome. It is very real https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320861#hypertension


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01



    Suffer from it myself.
    It's a pain in the arse when dealing with any Doc other than my GP tbh.
    Will usually come in @150/95 or so when 1st checked but settles
    Have had multiple 24hr monitors that give a normal 120/80 average over the day and have my own monitor too now.

    Not at at all saying that's what you are encountering Frosty, but ask your GP for 24hr monitor to confirm or refute hypertension diagnosis rather than accept it immediately.

    PS: I know cramcycle offered a monitor, if you're in the Limerick area?
    You can borrow mine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭frosty123


    He had me on the 24 monitor, and he found my average reading to be high and hence he put me on medication..but did have to mention that?
    Could he not have said above average blood pressure?

    Probably wouldn't get the job now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    frosty123 wrote: »
    He had me on the 24 monitor, and he found my average reading to be high and hence he put me on medication..but did have to mention that?
    Could he not have said above average blood pressure?

    Probably wouldn't get the job now

    So your Doc provided accurate information.
    Above average blood pressure isn't a medical term or diagnosis and if he wrote hypertension the diagnosis was made in light of a 24hr monitor and is correct.

    Fluffing around the diagnosis would have led to a direct question from An Post as to what the actual diagnosis is.
    As a general guide:

    high blood pressure is considered to be 140/90mmHg or higher (or an average of 135/85mmHg at home) – or 150/90mmHg or higher (or an average of 145/85mmHg at home) if you're over the age of 80
    ideal blood pressure is usually considered to be between 90/60mmHg and 120/80mmHg, while the target for over-80s is below 150/90mmHg (or 145/85mmHg at home)
    Blood pressure readings between 120/80mmHg and 140/90mmHg could mean you're at risk of developing high blood pressure if you do not take steps to keep your blood pressure under control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    frosty123 wrote: »
    He had me on the 24 monitor, and he found my average reading to be high and hence he put me on medication..but did have to mention that?
    Could he not have said above average blood pressure?

    Probably wouldn't get the job now

    The term for above average blood pressure is hypertension . That is what any doctor would write in your case


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