Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

Mellor · 26-09-2020 8:50am

Cali_girl wrote: »

Hmmm, wonder if he's trying to establish cause for a "free me to box w/out Zuffa-UFC" clause/release argument? ie showing intent to fight named fighters etc? Going full on Dana like that usually doesn't end terribly well or bode well for future relationship with UFC

The exchange was from Feb. He wanted to fight sooner than July. But I think the events of Feb to July we’re pretty unforeseen

Still Ill · 26-09-2020 12:24pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Do you think there's any chance that they don't want to give him a big name until the fans are back in?

Surely more McGregor fights are better for the UFC. Just because he fights once without fans doesn't exclude him from fighting again when the fans are allowed back in.

GiftofGab · 26-09-2020 12:34pm

Circus act at this stage. Either do a fight or stop talking about it on twitter.

The Nal · 26-09-2020 12:41pm

"the aul switcharoo" made me laugh.

Whelo79 · 26-09-2020 1:48pm

GiftofGab wrote: »

Circus act at this stage. Either do a fight or stop talking about it on twitter.

From those messages it looks like he is trying his best to fight but the UFC are holding out on him.

Mr. Karate · 26-09-2020 2:37pm

Let him fight Pacquio for all I care. Atleast he's not a champion this time so he isn't holding up any divisions.

Still Ill · 26-09-2020 2:50pm

Can't see anyone really caring if he fights Manny. There was a lot of excitement around the Mayweather fight. Just can't see the appetite for another foray into boxing. Although there's a 99% chance he's just talking ****e on Twitter as usual.

26-09-2020 2:52pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Do you think there's any chance that they don't want to give him a big name until the fans are back in?

Hasn't Dana said that this is the case, or at least said it in a roundabout way...

I know Frank Warren has said Fury won't be fighting Joshua until crowds are left back in as they'd be leaving too much money on the table.

walshb · 26-09-2020 7:31pm

Manny licking his lips at the chance to make big bucks in a walk in the park circus fight...

And you can bet, he won’t take ten rds and look ridiculously awkward and sloppy, like Floyd did. If Manny is in a hurry, be over in 1 round.

Still Ill · 26-09-2020 9:03pm

walshb wrote: »

Manny licking his lips at the chance to make big bucks in a walk in the park circus fight...

And you can bet, he won’t take ten rds and look ridiculously awkward and sloppy, like Floyd did. If Manny is in a hurry, be over in 1 round.

It's not gonna happen

dashoonage · 26-09-2020 9:28pm

Still Ill wrote: »

It's not gonna happen

Its gonna happen, it's just no ones gonna care.

simongurnick · 26-09-2020 10:47pm

dashoonage wrote: »

Its gonna happen, it's just no ones gonna care.

Dont kid yourself. The fight will be massive.

27-09-2020 1:31am

dashoonage wrote: »

Its gonna happen, it's just no ones gonna care.

No one? You seem to care enough to post about it :rolleyes: Plenty of people care.

Whelo79 · 27-09-2020 1:36am

Imagine only ever having 2 professional boxing bouts in your career and they are against Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao!!

derfderf · 27-09-2020 7:34am

It's silly saying nobody will care. I buy every ufc ppv, but i wouldn't pay for Manny vs McGregor. I'd still be interested in what happens. I'm not a big enough fan of boxing to pay for one fight. No way it does Mayweather numbers or anything though.
Dana's pissed about him sharing the messages. I thought sharing Dana's answer to the Diego suggestion was classless. If he left that out, the rest was fine.

walshb · 27-09-2020 11:15am

dashoonage wrote: »

Its gonna happen, it's just no ones gonna care.

Plenty will care...

Man with broke phone · 27-09-2020 11:18am

After a few weeks people will start believing he is the best boxer in the world again.

Esse85 · 27-09-2020 11:26am

Man with broke phone wrote: »

After a few weeks people will start believing he is the best boxer in the world again.

The clowns that buy into the hype will.

Sunny Disposition · 27-09-2020 11:28am

Can’t see that much appetite in this part of the world for the fight, surely less than 50% of the PPVs that the Mayweather one sold. McGregor’s trash talk won’t sell the fight to anything like the extent it did then.
He’s making a fool of himself, why bother when you have ur money made.

The Nal · 27-09-2020 11:29am

Dana looks like hes running out of patience with him.

walshb · 27-09-2020 12:25pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Can’t see that much appetite in this part of the world for the fight, surely less than 50% of the PPVs that the Mayweather one sold. McGregor’s trash talk won’t sell the fight to anything like the extent it did then.
He’s making a fool of himself, why bother when you have ur money made.

It won’t be near the event/seller that the 2017 fight was

Conor’s trash taking now is met with derision and contempt..

And Manny is not at all like Floyd, who is very unlikable.

It will sell a fair bit, though.

Man with broke phone · 27-09-2020 1:23pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Can’t see that much appetite in this part of the world for the fight, surely less than 50% of the PPVs that the Mayweather one sold. McGregor’s trash talk won’t sell the fight to anything like the extent it did then.
He’s making a fool of himself, why bother when you have ur money made.

He will make a few million ppv, sell some whiskey, sell some sponsership, make alot of people rich, he can have another year being Mr Important, its hardly like he is working the saturday night shift in the pheonix park.

weldoninhio · 27-09-2020 1:56pm

walshb wrote: »

Plenty will care...

Fools and their money are easily parted.

27-09-2020 4:26pm

Dana fired back at the UFC 253 post-presser mentioning Conor's retirement. Still convinced Conor likes the big boxing paydays and is not happy to share half with the UFC - hence trying to prove/show that they're in breach re providing him contracted fights, and UFC stating that he's a retired fighter. It'll be messy...

The Nal · 27-09-2020 4:36pm

McGregor via text asking Dana to tear up the entire organisations 2020 schedule to fight Diego Sanchez is top level bantz.

Outlaw Pete · 27-09-2020 5:09pm

Dana: "This is some Man code stuff" - McGregor somewhere pissing himself at that :P

I think at this stage Dana has perfected the 'I'm furious with Conor' look and knows he/UFC will be soon be capitalizing on it all at some stage down the road. No doubt this "fallout" will be the main focus of their promo for McGregor's next UFC fight.

27-09-2020 5:29pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Dana: "This is some Man code stuff" - McGregor somewhere pissing himself at that :P

I think at this stage Dana has perfected the 'I'm furious with Conor' look and knows he/UFC will be soon be capitalizing on it all at some stage down the road. No doubt this "fallout" will be the main focus of their promo for McGregor's next UFC fight.

Honestly, I don't think Conor will be fighting in the UFC again. Judging by the timing of all this he's definitely making a case to void his contract so he can make as much as he can from a fight with Manny without paying Dana and WME their cut. The UFC have to offer him 3 fights in a year barring injury. It's been nearly 9 months since his last fight and his screenshots are a pretty bad look for the UFC if he takes them to court to void his contract.

I'm guessing he's either going to be put on standby for the Gaethje/Khabib fight or released from his contract. Dana won't like it but he won't have a choice. The UFC wants everyone to be an independent contractor so they can underpay their fighters and hardball them in negotiations but it also has its downsides for the UFC like what's happening now with Conor. Legally they have to give a timeframe for the contractor to fulfill his contract and judging by Conor's texts they refuse to do that. COVID won't be much of an excuse either. If Messi can't use COVID as an excuse to alter the terms of his contract with Barca then the UFC won't be able to claim that contract law shouldn't apply to them because of COVID.

It's about to get really messy and I love it. Dana has a history of trying to say fighters don't want to fight despite them clearly wanting to, like Poirer only a few weeks back. It's about time someone called him out properly on his BS and he had no real response to the screenshots as he had been caught out lovely. "Conor broke the man code" LOL Even without fighting Conor causes drama and it's great entertainment.

Sunny Disposition · 27-09-2020 8:01pm

McGregors lack of pedigree made no difference at all when it came to the Mayweather fight, in a sense it made it. There may have been a feeling in some quarters that he’d present Floyd with something he hadn’t seen before and might have trouble coping with. Now we know for sure he isn’t a good boxer and certainly won’t win, what’s the point in paying €25 or so?
I’m sure it’ll be profitable, but will be doing well to get 10% of the audience of the Mayweather fight.

Mr. Karate · 27-09-2020 8:14pm

Cali_girl wrote: »

Dana fired back at the UFC 253 post-presser mentioning Conor's retirement. Still convinced Conor likes the big boxing paydays and is not happy to share half with the UFC - hence trying to prove/show that they're in breach re providing him contracted fights, and UFC stating that he's a retired fighter. It'll be messy...

Conor just needs to ask Ken and others who have sued the UFC and how that turned out for him?

walshb · 27-09-2020 8:22pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

McGregors lack of pedigree made no difference at all when it came to the Mayweather fight, in a sense it made it. There may have been a feeling in some quarters that he’d present Floyd with something he hadn’t seen before and might have trouble coping with. Now we know for sure he isn’t a good boxer and certainly won’t win, what’s the point in paying €25 or so?
I’m sure it’ll be profitable, but will be doing well to get 10% of the audience of the Mayweather fight.

Mayweather still made a fooking meal out of beating him. He actually lost several rounds as well, and only started getting on top when McGregor got tired...

For me, Mayweather was the loser here. Taking ten rds to finally stop a complete novice, and looking clumsy and awkward and unsure for large parts of it..

And the fight showed clearly that Conor belongs nowhere near a boxing ring against any decent boxer..

27-09-2020 8:25pm

Conor has bigger and better resources behind him than Ken Shamrock (?) - forgot about that one! or Mark Hunt or even Randy Couture (different scenario though) ... Not saying he would or should win or that either side are doing any more than posturing up at this stage, but he got Dana to react publicly so it's on! I would assume they would aim to agree on a discrete deal - and would also assume that Pacquiao will have clauses that he will only deal with "Pacquiao-McGregor ACME" promotion or some such.
Who knows obvs, and a lot of speculation here, but given the mega $$$ involved there will be a fight!

Ush1 · 27-09-2020 8:26pm

walshb wrote: »

Mayweather still made a fooking meal out of beating him. He actually lost several rounds as well, and only started getting on top when McGregor got tired...

For me, Mayweather was the loser here. Taking ten rds to finally stop a complete novice, and looking clumsy and awkward and unsure for large parts of it..

I can assure you, Mayweather was the winner in every conceivable way.

He has said in interviews since he made it last to put on a show. Might be posturing, but he's arguably the greatest boxer ever so if anyone can mess around in there...

Sunny Disposition · 27-09-2020 8:27pm

walshb wrote: »

Mayweather still made a fooking meal out of beating him. He actually lost several rounds as well, and only started getting on top when McGregor got tired...

For me, Mayweather was the loser here. Taking ten rds to finally stop a complete novice, and looking clumsy and awkward and unsure for large parts of it..

He hardly threw a punch for the first two and a half rounds, sure McGregor won them, but by default because Mayweather didn’t try to win them. Completely one sided from then, total farce.
If he was going boxing again he should have gone for Malignaggi who is long retired and there’s be at least a possibility of a reasonable fight.

walshb · 27-09-2020 8:28pm

Ush1 wrote: »

I can assure you, Mayweather was the winner in every conceivable way.

He has said in interviews since he made it last to put on a show. Might be posturing, but he's arguably the greatest boxer ever so if anyone can mess around in there...

We know he was the winner officially..

He still looked dreadful in the fight..

Looked even worse in his next outing against the Japanese lad..

RoryMac · 27-09-2020 10:10pm

walshb wrote: »

We know he was the winner officially..

He still looked dreadful in the fight..

Looked even worse in his next outing against the Japanese lad..

He probably would've looked a bit better if he'd trained for the fights but guess he didn't need to

rob316 · 28-09-2020 11:03am

It wont be the money maker hes expecting, there will be no circus promo's with Manny, Manny won't be interested in making it look good like mayweather.

Too Tough To Die · 28-09-2020 2:52pm

rob316 wrote: »

It wont be the money maker hes expecting, there will be no circus promo's with Manny, Manny won't be interested in making it look good like mayweather.

It won't sell nearly as well but they'll be getting a significant site fee from the Saudi's for staging the fight.

Nigzcurran · 28-09-2020 6:26pm

Lads he’s still gonna make a few million from it no matter what, plenty of whiskey promotion along the way and it’s a no brainer for him, we have to accept he is a business man first and a sports star second and is pretty good at both to be honest. I’ve no real interest in the fight but I’m sure I’ll get caught up in the hype along the way like most people weather we like it or not

xtal191 · 28-09-2020 7:15pm

Would he even be able promote his Whisky in Saudi Arabia if the fight was there?

simongurnick · 28-09-2020 9:36pm

xtal191 wrote: »

Would he even be able promote his Whisky in Saudi Arabia if the fight was there?

Maybe not in the ring, but on the broadcast all over the world.
As an aside, I noticed the boxing on showtime this weekend had Proper 12 plastered all over the ring.

froog · 28-09-2020 10:36pm

simongurnick wrote: »

Dont kid yourself. The fight will be massive.

nah. the mayweather fight was massive because a good lot of people actually believed mcgregor had a chance. that illusion is now shattered. mcgregor gets schooled by any high level boxer and most pros. also manny is not good at selling fights like floyd. the lead up to this will be boring as feck.

froog · 28-09-2020 10:38pm

walshb wrote: »

Mayweather still made a fooking meal out of beating him. He actually lost several rounds as well, and only started getting on top when McGregor got tired...

For me, Mayweather was the loser here. Taking ten rds to finally stop a complete novice, and looking clumsy and awkward and unsure for large parts of it..

And the fight showed clearly that Conor belongs nowhere near a boxing ring against any decent boxer..

ah come on, you don't think mayweather dragged it out to put on a show??

Outlaw Pete · 28-09-2020 10:48pm

A selling point for the fight will no doubt be that he approached the Mayweather fight all wrong and now will have a proper boxing coach in his corner, Phil Sutcliffe.

Mellor · 29-09-2020 6:08am

Ush1 wrote: »

He has said in interviews since he made it last to put on a show. Might be posturing, but he's arguably the greatest boxer ever so if anyone can mess around in there...

Post fight claims are hardly credible.

froog wrote: »

the mayweather fight was massive because a good lot of people actually believed mcgregor had a chance.

Nobody with half a brain thought he had a chance.
He fight was massive because despite the skill it was still interesting from a "what will happen" point of view.

froog wrote: »

ah come on, you don't think mayweather dragged it out to put on a show??

No I don't. Because it's not some thing he has ever done. He serves him no benefit. If anything he's bets were a bigger factor than putting on a show.

Nothing about the early rounds look like somebody putting on a show. He shelled up, and was heavy on defense. That's being cagey and smart, not an exhibitionist. Conor had a small window to win. Floyd was letting that window close. That in itself was an achievement that surprised many reasonable posters.

weldoninhio · 29-09-2020 8:18am

Mellor wrote: »

No I don't. Because it's not some thing he has ever done. He serves him no benefit. If anything he's bets were a bigger factor than putting on a show.

Nothing about the early rounds look like somebody putting on a show. He shelled up, and was heavy on defense. That's being cagey and smart, not an exhibitionist. Conor had a small window to win. Floyd was letting that window close. That in itself was an achievement that surprised many reasonable posters.

How many other cross discipline fights did he have? He was defensive in the first two rounds so he could gauge McGregors “power” once he realised that McGregor was throwing pillow hands at him he opened up and danced around for a while before finishing it.

robwen · 29-09-2020 9:46am

https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1310763562223251456?s=19

bmcc10 · 29-09-2020 10:06am

Dana is not letting that happen in a million years.

weldoninhio · 29-09-2020 10:39am

robwen wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1310763562223251456?s=19

In the Point Depot no less.

Still Ill · 29-09-2020 11:03am

He's a joke at this stage. Thought he was fighting Manny next?

rob316 · 29-09-2020 11:07am

Ha there is not a hope Dana will let that happen and McGregor knows it, so he'll release his next series of screenshots and say "look I wanted to fight Dustin for free and I wasn't allowed" :rolleyes:

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