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Optimus Prime · 02-07-2012 10:56am

ah ok, ill have to have a look later. ill do some reading up on it. Does the jamma harness plug into the screen too?

I know its a long shot but i was kind hoping that maybe the connection between the board and screen is just not working, because of the fact one of the speakers is not getting sound off the jamma harness in it at the minute too.

Long shot i know...

Does anyone know what a crt screen in a cab does if you turn on the cab with no pcb connected? does it do anything.. or just sit there as if it was turned off?

Myrddin · 02-07-2012 11:00am

keithgeo wrote: »

ah ok, ill have to have a look later. ill do some reading up on it. Does the jamma harness plug into the screen too?

There are wires that come from the JAMMA connector, & break off and connect into the monitor chassis yeah, all the video signal wires.

I know its a long shot but i was kind hoping that maybe the connection between the board and screen is just not working, because of the fact one of the speakers is not getting sound off the jamma harness in it at the minute too.

Long shot i know...

It's possible I suppose. Check all the pins in the JAMMA connector & make sure they're all ok & not touching any adjacent pins.

Does anyone know what a crt screen in a cab does if you turn on the cab with no pcb connected? does it do anything.. or just sit there as if it was turned off?

Generally I think it's not advised to do so, something about no load on the PSU or something

Optimus Prime · 02-07-2012 11:10am

Thanks a lot, ill check it out.

Currently the screen does nothing when its switched on, so i was just wondering if it displayed anything if there was no pcb or even flashed. Im pretty sure its making a noise though when switched on. you know that faint sound you hear when a crt tv is on.

Here is the million dollar question, to remove the jamma harness wire from the crt do i have to discharge the screen?

Myrddin · 02-07-2012 11:14am

keithgeo wrote: »

Here is the million dollar question, to remove the jamma harness wire from the crt do i have to discharge the screen?

I wouldn't think so, the wires should be in a block connector near the front of the chassis that simply plugs out. Be very careful that you don't touch anything else though while the monitor hasn't been discharged

Optimus Prime · 02-07-2012 11:16am

EnterNow wrote: »

I wouldn't think so, the wires should be in a block connector near the front of the chassis that simply plugs out. Be very careful that you don't touch anything else though while the monitor hasn't been discharged

haha russian roulette with an arcade cab. I dont have the nerve for this haha.

Myrddin · 02-07-2012 11:18am

keithgeo wrote: »

haha russian roulette with an arcade cab. I dont have the nerve for this haha.

Ah it's nothing to worry about at all provided you know whats what & take the proper precautions. You'll rarely ever have to go near your monitor/chassis anyway...but it's handy to know about them when it comes to fixing little niggly bits etc.

What are you gonna do re the screen anyway, replacement chassis & go from there?

Optimus Prime · 02-07-2012 11:25am

well im going to get a new Jamma Harness anyways, just to have a new one. it will sort out the speaker issue without having to buy new speakers and it will at least be ruled out as the reason why the screen isnt working.

am i right in thinking the the screen is seperate from the chassis, so either one or the other isnt working. maybe both i guess.

So get a new chassis first and see if that fixes it? I might have to wait a few months until after the wedding before getting into that as it will cost a few quid id say.

In the meantime, I have new buttons, Tmolding etc. I picked up some paint the weekend and have woodfiller, so im going to fill in some holes and just paint over them and do the tmolding in the meantime.

I have all the artwork for SF2 CE ready to print in high quality. a lad i know works in a printers and is going to print them all off for me when he gets back from his holidays. So i guess ill work on the look of it for now and try sort out the actual workings of it down the road, unless i manage to get lucky in the meantime.

Casey120 · 02-07-2012 11:35am

As long as you don't stick your finger under the rubber anode cap on the back of your monitor tube you are pretty safe .

Why not contact someone like Craig walker on giz10p.co.uk and if it's your chassis just send it to him for repair , de did my Cute chassis and it came back perfect .

o1s1n · 02-07-2012 8:45pm

I read that through the magic of science, you can buff chrome and remove rust with some aluminium and water.

Decided to give it a go - and it works!

You can't really see the chromed effect properly in these shots for some reason. If you look into the CP it's pretty much a mirror. But you can at least see how it's cleaned it up a good bit.

You can still see a bit of a mark where the sticker was - I think wear and tear over the years stripped some of the chrome off. Still, looks a bit better now.

Before -

After -

.

This underside of the CP had quite a bit of rust, discolouring and was dull. Fixed it right up in a few seconds

Casey120 · 02-07-2012 9:56pm

You can properly comb your hair in it now

Andrew76 · 02-07-2012 10:49pm

Looking good o1s1n. Can see the robe much clearer now too. :P

What colours you go for with the Start buttons?

o1s1n · 02-07-2012 10:59pm

I made sure to take your advice and stay robed

Not sure what to do about the start buttons now - just had a look at the flier and they're the original colours!

I wouldn't mind trying a couple of yellows and just seeing what they're like. Yellow always looks good for start buttons for some reason

Optimus Prime · 03-07-2012 3:05pm

EnterNow wrote: »

on the Capcom boards the kick harness terminates in a little white plug that plugs into the very top of the board...

Looking at these on ebay and was just wondering, how do you ground the buttons the kick harness is connected to? do you just ground them to the rest of the normal jamma buttons?

Looks like there is a spot on the SF2CE board for a kick harness too..

Myrddin · 03-07-2012 4:13pm

keithgeo wrote: »

Looking at these on ebay and was just wondering, how do you ground the buttons the kick harness is connected to? do you just ground them to the rest of the normal jamma buttons?

Looks like there is a spot on the SF2CE board for a kick harness too..

When I had them installed, I just ran the ground wire to the ground loop that the other buttons were using, quick & easy.

Yep that looks like the correct pin header anyway

o1s1n · 03-07-2012 4:19pm

I can see why you went to emulation with your cab, must have been annoying connecting up the kick harness every time you changed a PCB on your fighting games.

Myrddin · 03-07-2012 4:24pm

o1s1n wrote: »

I can see why you went to emulation with your cab, must have been annoying connecting up the kick harness every time you changed a PCB on your fighting games.

I had both CPS1 & CPS2 harness installed, & had them ending beside the JAMMA connector so it wasn't too bad really. It was more a case of having to pull the cab out from the wall as they loaded from the back, bloody weight of those >6ft cabs.

Optimus Prime · 03-07-2012 4:29pm

Can you connect the CPS1 & CPS2 harness to the buttons at the same time? So you dont have to keep swapping them, and just plug the relevant one into the pcb?

Myrddin · 03-07-2012 4:30pm

keithgeo wrote: »

Can you connect the CPS1 & CPS2 harness to the buttons at the same time? So you dont have to keep swapping them, and just plug the relevant one into the pcb?

Yeah thats what I done. You could either recrimp those wires into new button plugs or solder them onto the existing button plugs. T'was very handy

o1s1n · 03-07-2012 4:32pm

Oh yeah, I forgot I had to do that with my original woody too. It's a right pain!

In fact, to get around it, I just left the control panel unlatched. It was heavy enough to stay down like that. To change a game I flipped the control panel forward and that's pretty much where the JAMMA harness was located.

Whatever Japanese man thought it was a good idea to put a service door on the front of a candy was a genius

Optimus Prime · 03-07-2012 4:33pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Yeah thats what I done. You could either recrimp those wires into new button plugs or solder them onto the existing button plugs. T'was very handy

Excellent, something new learned every day. Im still reading up on that monitor, apparantly they can have a few different issues, caps etc.

Myrddin · 03-07-2012 4:34pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Oh yeah, I forgot I had to do that with my original woody too. It's a right pain!

In fact, to get around it, I just left the control panel unlatched. It was heavy enough to stay down like that. To change a game I flipped the control panel forward and that's pretty much where the JAMMA harness was located.

Whatever Japanese man thought it was a good idea to put a service door on the front of a candy was a genius

Ah cool, in my cab the Jamma connector ends near the rear, & the shelf under the CP isn't big enough for a pcb so I'm kinda stuck. I can switch the cab back to JAMMA functionality within a few minutes if I so wish, but it's too big to be lugging out all the time.

The front loading Candy is a gift for that, typical Japanese design, elegant & functional at the same time

o1s1n · 03-07-2012 10:29pm

Remember there were a few vertical boards I was a bit worried might have a damage sound amp due to a bit of an issue with a supergun? Well I finally brought myself to test them tonight.

Bit of a double edged sword this one - if they worked that would obviously be a good thing, but they would torment me being displayed sideways with no way of playing them!

So good news, they both worked perfectly. (So I am assuming Raiden 2 will too then. It's a little more dug in storage wise and I was feeling lazy)

Really miffed I can't play them at the moment, but sure what can you do. I'll get my hands on a vertical cab at some point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcLw_RuENoA

o1s1n · 06-07-2012 2:15pm

Just saw this over in the crap cab thread on AO.

I have no words.

Andrew76 · 06-07-2012 3:32pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Just saw this over in the crap cab thread on AO.

I have no words to describe how awesome it is!

Fixed. How cool is that - a cab, with a fridge! Genius.

Of course I mean it's utter sh1te.

/Edit: Actually on second glance what disturbs me most is the fridge door opening to the left?! What sort of strange backwards planet does that chap live on. :pac:

kevin2me · 06-07-2012 3:35pm

Fixed as right, Fine for those who dont have a Clue unlike the rest of us.
Space issues and that WIFE says no to a Cab. Awesome idea

I wouldnt dare have it, but more power to lad who does have it

unky chop chop · 06-07-2012 8:25pm

Saw this yolk today on AO.
I really want a cocktail now and thought the Aero table was quality but this has taken top spot now..Jaleco Table pony.Never knew they existed.Love the design.
Manual rotate but still can't complain
They come in 19" or 25".I'd imagine they are as rare as f44k.
still..Mmmmm I want

Pyongyang · 06-07-2012 8:34pm

I didn't know Jaleco made table cabinets. That example is very nice, although I do love the styling of the Aero Table more if I had to choose between the two. Not sure I could live with a cocktail cabinet but they are very lovely pieces I agree.

BTW, is that Dangun Feveron art the real deal? That art goes for a ridiculous amount of money, it's biblically tough to find original art for it.

unky chop chop · 06-07-2012 8:51pm

Yeah didn't know they made them either.
i'm usually Sega all the way but the design on that cocktail is unique for a candy.
I suppose all Jaleco Cabs are like that,but it really suits the cocktail.

haaa the Dangun Feveron artwork got your pulse racing Py.
What a game I must say...only discovered it recentley.
Now probably my fave Cave title to just pick up and play.
Scoring system is quality

Pyongyang · 06-07-2012 8:54pm

Dangun Feveron is a terrific game. A lot of folk I feel tend to overlook it. It's not my favourite Cave shooter (that's DDPDOJ, DDPDOJBL, DDPDOJBLEX in a 3-way tie) but it is a brilliant game all the same. I like the Donpachi/Batrider-style commentator the game features. Excellent stuff!

As for the cabinet, I'm a big fan of the Jaleco Pony, the styling on the table is similar, still stunned they made a table. Must be rare as blue steak!

Casey120 · 06-07-2012 8:59pm

Those are some sort of home made stickers.

Dangun Feveron art is pretty hard to find but not very expensive as far as I know .

Here's my set :

Ps,
meanwhile on offer on YHJ
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k149764934

Now that's rare , a freaking full kit with matching serials :eek:

o1s1n · 06-07-2012 9:04pm

That Jaleco table is cool, but I'm not too mad on the idea of having control panels on either side. Must be a right pain to find a spot for it in the house!

Does look fun though..!

(by the way, check this out, Windjammers on the Neo Geo has a cocktail mode - there's something you dont see used very often)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoPg1knDVj0

Casey120 · 06-07-2012 9:06pm

That table looks so tiny compared to an Aero , I want one

unky chop chop · 06-07-2012 9:08pm

Ha Yeah
Batrider voice for the win.
Sounds like he speaks through one of those amp gadgets that throat cancer victims use

Pyongyang · 06-07-2012 9:08pm

Casey120 wrote: »

Now that's rare , a freaking full kit with matching serials :eek:

Owch! That's expensive! That said, the Batrider kit I'm hoping to snag isn't far off that price. I wish we could buy these things for a better price.

Imagine the Antiques Roadshow 10 or 15 years from now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuHlBqwvRg0

o1s1n · 06-07-2012 9:09pm

Just googled a few more pics and you can either have the control panel on one side as two player or have one player on each side.

I still rather the Aero though. Although it's probably just because of the colours to be honest. The white and blue looks amazing.

unky chop chop · 06-07-2012 9:15pm

Still if you lashed a combo of white and black buttons in that and got rid of those god awful bat tops with sanwa white mesh ones it would look amazing.

Casey120 · 06-07-2012 9:18pm

Feveron has some fun "secrets" , to play with an uncontrollable fast Uo Poko that meows until your nerves break or a nice 3 minute caravan mode :

http://www.world-of-arcades.net/Cave/Feveron/Secrets.htm

Heaven is here inside your soul !

o1s1n · 06-07-2012 9:18pm

Do I see another potential purchase on the horizon?

Maybe Steve_SI will see one tucked away in the back of that candy cab warehouse...!

Casey120 · 06-07-2012 9:21pm

Ronnie has 2 nice Namco Consolette's on sale right now , I think he needs at least one for the grand opening !

unky chop chop · 06-07-2012 9:22pm

Yeah I was thinking that..Come on Steve
For the love of god..PLEASE.I love you loooooong time
Where are the speakers on those cabs anyway..underneath?

Pyongyang · 06-07-2012 9:25pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Do I see another potential purchase on the horizon?

Maybe Steve_SI will see one tucked away in the back of that candy cab warehouse...!

unky chop chop · 06-07-2012 9:30pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cDWPvhiPWg

Steve,Ill gladly be your Virgil..payment is that cab.
Job done..I know you want a henchman

Casey120 · 06-07-2012 9:34pm

unky chop chop · 07-07-2012 1:44am

Jaysus they look horrible..
Bleeeeewwwghh, that's what i mean when I say I don't like the design of Jaleco upright cabs in general.
Cp held on by a bar...nooooooo.Each to their own I suppose

€875 each as well:eek:

o1s1n · 07-07-2012 1:57am

They're Namco consolettes 26's aren't they? Seems Ronnie just listed a couple?

Wouldn't be to my taste at all, the control panel held on by a bar does look very strange indeed!

It doesnt look quite so bad here

Casey120 · 07-07-2012 9:00am

They apparently are rare, even in Japan so you pay premium .

I could have sworn I saw a much smaller, like 18" version not long ago that I liked much more but I can't seem to find it anymore or maybe I was drunk .

Optimus Prime · 07-07-2012 10:08pm

Can anyone help me out here? Inside this cab i have a socket for a kettle style plug. on the opposite side are 3 prongs and three cables that connect to these prongs.

I have

Yellow Green
Black and Blue
Brown

Each one of these 3 has a clip on the end to connect to 1 of the prongs. top, middle and bottom.

Does anyone know the order they go on???

Image..

Thanks!

EDIT

Never mind figured it out.

Pyongyang · 07-07-2012 10:10pm

That Namco cab looks absolutely revolting. Sorry lads...

Optimus Prime · 12-07-2012 4:08pm

Lads if the top and bottom of a game in a jamma cab is being cut off, as in part of the game on top is off screen, how do i fix that? I tried twisting pots on the back of the monitor, it moves horizontal, vertical, goes flicky, brightens up etc but cant seem to resize the picture so it fits on screen?

LoGiE · 12-07-2012 4:28pm

I'm pissed of with the sound coming from the current amp in my mame cab ( It came from some usb speakers) so I'm finally going to get a good one. I'm looking for recommendations folks, and this one looks promising.

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