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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    ah ok, ill have to have a look later. ill do some reading up on it. Does the jamma harness plug into the screen too?

    I know its a long shot but i was kind hoping that maybe the connection between the board and screen is just not working, because of the fact one of the speakers is not getting sound off the jamma harness in it at the minute too.

    Long shot i know...

    Does anyone know what a crt screen in a cab does if you turn on the cab with no pcb connected? does it do anything.. or just sit there as if it was turned off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    keithgeo wrote: »
    ah ok, ill have to have a look later. ill do some reading up on it. Does the jamma harness plug into the screen too?

    There are wires that come from the JAMMA connector, & break off and connect into the monitor chassis yeah, all the video signal wires.
    I know its a long shot but i was kind hoping that maybe the connection between the board and screen is just not working, because of the fact one of the speakers is not getting sound off the jamma harness in it at the minute too.

    Long shot i know...

    It's possible I suppose. Check all the pins in the JAMMA connector & make sure they're all ok & not touching any adjacent pins.
    Does anyone know what a crt screen in a cab does if you turn on the cab with no pcb connected? does it do anything.. or just sit there as if it was turned off?

    Generally I think it's not advised to do so, something about no load on the PSU or something


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Thanks a lot, ill check it out.

    Currently the screen does nothing when its switched on, so i was just wondering if it displayed anything if there was no pcb or even flashed. Im pretty sure its making a noise though when switched on. you know that faint sound you hear when a crt tv is on.

    Here is the million dollar question, to remove the jamma harness wire from the crt do i have to discharge the screen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Here is the million dollar question, to remove the jamma harness wire from the crt do i have to discharge the screen?

    I wouldn't think so, the wires should be in a block connector near the front of the chassis that simply plugs out. Be very careful that you don't touch anything else though while the monitor hasn't been discharged


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I wouldn't think so, the wires should be in a block connector near the front of the chassis that simply plugs out. Be very careful that you don't touch anything else though while the monitor hasn't been discharged

    haha russian roulette with an arcade cab. I dont have the nerve for this haha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    keithgeo wrote: »
    haha russian roulette with an arcade cab. I dont have the nerve for this haha.

    Ah it's nothing to worry about at all provided you know whats what & take the proper precautions. You'll rarely ever have to go near your monitor/chassis anyway...but it's handy to know about them when it comes to fixing little niggly bits etc.

    What are you gonna do re the screen anyway, replacement chassis & go from there?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    well im going to get a new Jamma Harness anyways, just to have a new one. it will sort out the speaker issue without having to buy new speakers and it will at least be ruled out as the reason why the screen isnt working.

    am i right in thinking the the screen is seperate from the chassis, so either one or the other isnt working. maybe both i guess.

    So get a new chassis first and see if that fixes it? I might have to wait a few months until after the wedding before getting into that as it will cost a few quid id say.

    In the meantime, I have new buttons, Tmolding etc. I picked up some paint the weekend and have woodfiller, so im going to fill in some holes and just paint over them and do the tmolding in the meantime.

    I have all the artwork for SF2 CE ready to print in high quality. a lad i know works in a printers and is going to print them all off for me when he gets back from his holidays. So i guess ill work on the look of it for now and try sort out the actual workings of it down the road, unless i manage to get lucky in the meantime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    As long as you don't stick your finger under the rubber anode cap on the back of your monitor tube you are pretty safe .

    Why not contact someone like Craig walker on giz10p.co.uk and if it's your chassis just send it to him for repair , de did my Cute chassis and it came back perfect .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I read that through the magic of science, you can buff chrome and remove rust with some aluminium and water.

    Decided to give it a go - and it works!

    You can't really see the chromed effect properly in these shots for some reason. If you look into the CP it's pretty much a mirror. But you can at least see how it's cleaned it up a good bit.

    You can still see a bit of a mark where the sticker was - I think wear and tear over the years stripped some of the chrome off. Still, looks a bit better now.

    Before -

    beforebuff.jpg

    After -

    after-Copy.jpg

    .

    IMG_0093.jpg



    IMG_0097.jpg

    This underside of the CP had quite a bit of rust, discolouring and was dull. Fixed it right up in a few seconds


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    You can properly comb your hair in it now :D


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Looking good o1s1n. Can see the robe much clearer now too. :P

    What colours you go for with the Start buttons?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I made sure to take your advice and stay robed :p

    Not sure what to do about the start buttons now - just had a look at the flier and they're the original colours!

    I wouldn't mind trying a couple of yellows and just seeing what they're like. Yellow always looks good for start buttons for some reason :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    EnterNow wrote: »
    on the Capcom boards the kick harness terminates in a little white plug that plugs into the very top of the board...

    Looking at these on ebay and was just wondering, how do you ground the buttons the kick harness is connected to? do you just ground them to the rest of the normal jamma buttons?

    Looks like there is a spot on the SF2CE board for a kick harness too..

    1.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Looking at these on ebay and was just wondering, how do you ground the buttons the kick harness is connected to? do you just ground them to the rest of the normal jamma buttons?

    Looks like there is a spot on the SF2CE board for a kick harness too..

    1.jpg

    When I had them installed, I just ran the ground wire to the ground loop that the other buttons were using, quick & easy.

    Yep that looks like the correct pin header anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I can see why you went to emulation with your cab, must have been annoying connecting up the kick harness every time you changed a PCB on your fighting games.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I can see why you went to emulation with your cab, must have been annoying connecting up the kick harness every time you changed a PCB on your fighting games.

    I had both CPS1 & CPS2 harness installed, & had them ending beside the JAMMA connector so it wasn't too bad really. It was more a case of having to pull the cab out from the wall as they loaded from the back, bloody weight of those >6ft cabs.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Can you connect the CPS1 & CPS2 harness to the buttons at the same time? So you dont have to keep swapping them, and just plug the relevant one into the pcb?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Can you connect the CPS1 & CPS2 harness to the buttons at the same time? So you dont have to keep swapping them, and just plug the relevant one into the pcb?

    Yeah thats what I done. You could either recrimp those wires into new button plugs or solder them onto the existing button plugs. T'was very handy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Oh yeah, I forgot I had to do that with my original woody too. It's a right pain!

    In fact, to get around it, I just left the control panel unlatched. It was heavy enough to stay down like that. To change a game I flipped the control panel forward and that's pretty much where the JAMMA harness was located.

    Whatever Japanese man thought it was a good idea to put a service door on the front of a candy was a genius :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Yeah thats what I done. You could either recrimp those wires into new button plugs or solder them onto the existing button plugs. T'was very handy

    Excellent, something new learned every day. Im still reading up on that monitor, apparantly they can have a few different issues, caps etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Oh yeah, I forgot I had to do that with my original woody too. It's a right pain!

    In fact, to get around it, I just left the control panel unlatched. It was heavy enough to stay down like that. To change a game I flipped the control panel forward and that's pretty much where the JAMMA harness was located.

    Whatever Japanese man thought it was a good idea to put a service door on the front of a candy was a genius :D

    Ah cool, in my cab the Jamma connector ends near the rear, & the shelf under the CP isn't big enough for a pcb so I'm kinda stuck. I can switch the cab back to JAMMA functionality within a few minutes if I so wish, but it's too big to be lugging out all the time.

    The front loading Candy is a gift for that, typical Japanese design, elegant & functional at the same time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Remember there were a few vertical boards I was a bit worried might have a damage sound amp due to a bit of an issue with a supergun? Well I finally brought myself to test them tonight.

    Bit of a double edged sword this one - if they worked that would obviously be a good thing, but they would torment me being displayed sideways with no way of playing them!

    So good news, they both worked perfectly. (So I am assuming Raiden 2 will too then. It's a little more dug in storage wise and I was feeling lazy)

    IMG_0103.jpg

    IMG_0105.jpg

    Really miffed I can't play them at the moment, but sure what can you do. I'll get my hands on a vertical cab at some point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Just saw this over in the crap cab thread on AO.

    I have no words.

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Just saw this over in the crap cab thread on AO.

    I have no words to describe how awesome it is!

    Fixed. How cool is that - a cab, with a fridge! Genius.


    Of course I mean it's utter sh1te.

    /Edit: Actually on second glance what disturbs me most is the fridge door opening to the left?! What sort of strange backwards planet does that chap live on. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭kevin2me


    Fixed as right, Fine for those who dont have a Clue unlike the rest of us.
    Space issues and that WIFE says no to a Cab. Awesome idea :)
    I wouldnt dare have it, but more power to lad who does have it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Saw this yolk today on AO.
    I really want a cocktail now and thought the Aero table was quality but this has taken top spot now..Jaleco Table pony.Never knew they existed.Love the design.
    Manual rotate but still can't complain
    They come in 19" or 25".I'd imagine they are as rare as f44k.
    still..Mmmmm I want
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    I didn't know Jaleco made table cabinets. That example is very nice, although I do love the styling of the Aero Table more if I had to choose between the two. Not sure I could live with a cocktail cabinet but they are very lovely pieces I agree. :)

    BTW, is that Dangun Feveron art the real deal? That art goes for a ridiculous amount of money, it's biblically tough to find original art for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Yeah didn't know they made them either.
    i'm usually Sega all the way but the design on that cocktail is unique for a candy.
    I suppose all Jaleco Cabs are like that,but it really suits the cocktail.

    haaa the Dangun Feveron artwork got your pulse racing Py.
    What a game I must say...only discovered it recentley.
    Now probably my fave Cave title to just pick up and play.
    Scoring system is quality


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Dangun Feveron is a terrific game. A lot of folk I feel tend to overlook it. It's not my favourite Cave shooter (that's DDPDOJ, DDPDOJBL, DDPDOJBLEX in a 3-way tie) but it is a brilliant game all the same. I like the Donpachi/Batrider-style commentator the game features. Excellent stuff!

    As for the cabinet, I'm a big fan of the Jaleco Pony, the styling on the table is similar, still stunned they made a table. Must be rare as blue steak!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    Those are some sort of home made stickers.

    Dangun Feveron art is pretty hard to find but not very expensive as far as I know .

    Here's my set :

    DSCF4925.jpg


    Ps,
    meanwhile on offer on YHJ
    http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k149764934


    Now that's rare , a freaking full kit with matching serials :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That Jaleco table is cool, but I'm not too mad on the idea of having control panels on either side. Must be a right pain to find a spot for it in the house!

    Does look fun though..!

    (by the way, check this out, Windjammers on the Neo Geo has a cocktail mode - there's something you dont see used very often)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    That table looks so tiny compared to an Aero , I want one :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Ha Yeah
    Batrider voice for the win.
    Sounds like he speaks through one of those amp gadgets that throat cancer victims use


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Casey120 wrote: »
    Now that's rare , a freaking full kit with matching serials :eek:

    Owch! That's expensive! That said, the Batrider kit I'm hoping to snag isn't far off that price. I wish we could buy these things for a better price.

    Imagine the Antiques Roadshow 10 or 15 years from now... :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Just googled a few more pics and you can either have the control panel on one side as two player or have one player on each side.

    cc57e0ea.jpg

    I still rather the Aero though. Although it's probably just because of the colours to be honest. The white and blue looks amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Still if you lashed a combo of white and black buttons in that and got rid of those god awful bat tops with sanwa white mesh ones it would look amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    Feveron has some fun "secrets" , to play with an uncontrollable fast Uo Poko that meows until your nerves break or a nice 3 minute caravan mode :

    http://www.world-of-arcades.net/Cave/Feveron/Secrets.htm

    Heaven is here inside your soul !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Do I see another potential purchase on the horizon? ;)

    Maybe Steve_SI will see one tucked away in the back of that candy cab warehouse...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    Ronnie has 2 nice Namco Consolette's on sale right now , I think he needs at least one for the grand opening !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Yeah I was thinking that..Come on Steve
    For the love of god..PLEASE.I love you loooooong time
    Where are the speakers on those cabs anyway..underneath?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Do I see another potential purchase on the horizon? ;)

    Maybe Steve_SI will see one tucked away in the back of that candy cab warehouse...!

    moneycount.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭unky chop chop






    Steve,Ill gladly be your Virgil..payment is that cab.
    Job done..I know you want a henchman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Jaysus they look horrible..
    Bleeeeewwwghh, that's what i mean when I say I don't like the design of Jaleco upright cabs in general.
    Cp held on by a bar...nooooooo.Each to their own I suppose
    cons.jpg
    €875 each as well:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    They're Namco consolettes 26's aren't they? Seems Ronnie just listed a couple?

    Wouldn't be to my taste at all, the control panel held on by a bar does look very strange indeed!

    It doesnt look quite so bad here

    Consolette.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    They apparently are rare, even in Japan so you pay premium .

    I could have sworn I saw a much smaller, like 18" version not long ago that I liked much more but I can't seem to find it anymore or maybe I was drunk .


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Can anyone help me out here? Inside this cab i have a socket for a kettle style plug. on the opposite side are 3 prongs and three cables that connect to these prongs.

    I have

    Yellow Green
    Black and Blue
    Brown

    Each one of these 3 has a clip on the end to connect to 1 of the prongs. top, middle and bottom.

    Does anyone know the order they go on???

    Image..

    Thanks!

    Untitled.jpg

    EDIT

    Never mind figured it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    That Namco cab looks absolutely revolting. Sorry lads...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Lads if the top and bottom of a game in a jamma cab is being cut off, as in part of the game on top is off screen, how do i fix that? I tried twisting pots on the back of the monitor, it moves horizontal, vertical, goes flicky, brightens up etc but cant seem to resize the picture so it fits on screen?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 2,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭LoGiE


    I'm pissed of with the sound coming from the current amp in my mame cab ( It came from some usb speakers) so I'm finally going to get a good one. I'm looking for recommendations folks, and this one looks promising.


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