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    #1622
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    thejuggler wrote: »
    Was there an announcement on this? Can’t find anything online.

    This was it :pac:

    .


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    #1623
    thejuggler
    Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭thejuggler


    Hmmmm.....


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    #1624
    AwaitYourReply
    Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    "Events Centre will cost more than what was originally envisaged" is the headline

    Full article including update on the Events Centre project is via below Echo online link

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Events-Centre-will-cost-more-than-what-was-originally-envisaged-16109861-6ad4-4cc2-9bee-3144fe8e308b-ds


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    #1625
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Smoke and mirrors. It's just all talk until there are actual diggers and cranes on site.


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    #1626
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    All talk no action.
    City council have proven themselves unable to manage this. Why are they now in control of the whole thing?
    This is years away yet (if it ever happens)


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    #1627
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Nancy Unkempt Shop wrote: »
    All talk no action.
    City council have proven themselves unable to manage this. Why are they now in control of the whole thing?
    This is years away yet (if it ever happens)

    It looks like money can now come from the Dept of Housing and Local Government direct to the Council if they are in charge without contravening the tendering process. So putting the council in charge is necessary. That's my reading anyway. Still all talk until something happens.


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    #1628
    snotboogie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Nancy Unkempt Shop wrote: »
    All talk no action.
    City council have proven themselves unable to manage this. Why are they now in control of the whole thing?
    This is years away yet (if it ever happens)

    Summer 2020 if no appeals, so ya 2021 realistically I'd say


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    #1629
    Markcheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I can't see this ending well for anyone.. (except BAM), yeah we'll provide the site, you pay us to build it... You're responsible for overruns, oh and for all the access bridges Ect... And then you give it back to us to run...
    It cost how much - we could have built a children's hospital for that...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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    #1630
    snotboogie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Markcheese wrote: »
    I can't see this ending well for anyone.. (except BAM), yeah we'll provide the site, you pay us to build it... You're responsible for overruns, oh and for all the access bridges Ect... And then you give it back to us to run...
    It cost how much - we could have built a children's hospital for that...

    I was with you till the final line, the children's hospital is costing billions


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    #1631
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Anybody know when the decision is due on this from a planning perspective?


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    #1632
    chalkitdown1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    Shovels in the ground any day now....


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    #1633
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    chalkitdown1 wrote: »
    Shovels in the ground any day now....

    I thought they spray the weeds these days 😉


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    #1634
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    chalkitdown1 wrote: »
    Shovels in the ground any day now....

    Yeah, any day at all


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    #1635
    Mardyke
    Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Mardyke


    Tuesday apparently........


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    #1636
    Dbu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Dbu


    There is a massive lift shaft being constructed there at the moment in the area closest to Barrack street...wonder is it for an event centre or more student apartments


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    #1637
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Couldn't be the Event Centre as it hasn't got planning yet. You're saying i's between the Counting House and Barrack St?


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    #1638
    Dbu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Dbu


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Couldn't be the Event Centre as it hasn't got planning yet. You're saying i's between the Counting House and Barrack St?

    If you are standing with your back to Fort Elizabeth its on the left hand side. Cant miss it, huge concrete structure scaffolding all around it. Hope this makes sense


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    #1639
    Apogee
    Registered Users Posts: 3,774 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Echo wrote:
    PLANNING permission has been granted for the events centre on the former Beamish & Crawford brewery site. The 6,000-capacity concert and conference venue proposal from construction company Bam was given the approval by City Hall planners this week.


    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/City-Hall-has-granted-planning-permission-for-the-updated-events-centre--506b361d-41f4-4da5-b3bb-dcb12f821cca-ds


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    #1640
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Dbu wrote: »
    If you are standing with your back to Fort Elizabeth its on the left hand side. Cant miss it, huge concrete structure scaffolding all around it. Hope this makes sense
    That's the office block in the middle portion of the site.


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    #1641
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Apogee wrote: »
    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/City-Hall-has-granted-planning-permission-for-the-updated-events-centre--506b361d-41f4-4da5-b3bb-dcb12f821cca-ds

    That's good news, I guess.


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    #1642
    blindsider
    Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭blindsider


    ....yawn...really?....yeah, right!

    Show me actual progress first...until then...zzzzz!


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    #1643
    thejuggler
    Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭thejuggler


    I suppose an appeal to an board Pleanála is inevitable?


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    #1644
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    thejuggler wrote: »
    I suppose an appeal to an board Pleanála is inevitable?

    That it is.
    Then after that a possible legal objection from hoteliers down in Killarney.


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    #1645
    Hangdogroad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Terrible looking design in fairness.


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    #1646
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    kub wrote: »
    That it is.
    Then after that a possible legal objection from hoteliers down in Killarney.

    Killarney? Really? There has been no indication that such an objection might be forthcoming. Do you know something the rest of us don't?


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    #1647
    chalkitdown1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    I don't know about the rest of us but they definitely know more about sarcasm than yourself....


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    #1648
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    Nancy Unkempt Shop wrote: »
    Killarney? Really? There has been no indication that such an objection might be forthcoming. Do you know something the rest of us don't?

    Possible legal action, I read about it months ago but I have no idea where, apparently some of them are concerned about the implications the Event Centre might have on the INEC, most importantly on their business.


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    #1649
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    kub wrote: »
    Possible legal action, I read about it months ago but I have no idea where, apparently some of them are concerned about the implications the Event Centre might have on the INEC, most importantly on their business.

    There would be zero legal basis for that.


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    #1650
    snotboogie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    There would be zero legal basis for that.

    I imagine the extra state aid given after the tender process would be the base of their objection?


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    #1651
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    snotboogie wrote: »
    I imagine the extra state aid given after the tender process would be the base of their objection?

    Well if the endless legal advice that was provided over this didn't manage to cover this off in a legally sound way, those legal advisors should be debarred.


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