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In a hundred years what will we look back on as our greatest shame?

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    #152
    rsh118
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    That U2 album you can't delete off your iPhone.


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    #153
    [Deleted User]
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    Growing cultural homogeneity/loss of indigenous languages and cultures. The new cultural sameness revolves around commerce - just how long do people think that sort of homogeneity will sustain itself? So-called utilitarians and neo-libertarians on the right, who know the price of everything but the value of nothing, cheering this destruction of culture and language in the cause of their God of free-market fundamentalism.

    What cultural resources, wisdom and confidence do people fall back on when the economic "wonders" stop?

    Language and culture loss is a massive issue, but very few people other than linguists and cultural anthropologists are highlighting how rapid this decline is.

    From UNESCO: endangered languages:
    It is estimated that, if nothing is done, half of 6000 plus languages spoken today will disappear by the end of this century. With the disappearance of unwritten and undocumented languages, humanity would lose not only a cultural wealth but also important ancestral knowledge embedded, in particular, in indigenous languages.

    However, this process is neither inevitable nor irreversible...


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    #154
    melissak
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    _Whimsical_ wrote: »
    I think Ireland will look back with shame on the "life of the mother" legislation passed last year that allowed for circumstances to transpire that resulted in a baby being born with profound disabilities whose future is as a disabled ward of the state. What happens to those children is a horrific shame in itself all too often.

    I feel like that legislation was passed in the middle of the night by boozed up politicians enjoying a good laugh and that it wasn't thought through to every full conclusion at all. No real debate or exchange of opinion was had. If it had been properly considered surely they'd have added a provision for refugee women to travel before that time if they chose but also for better services here for them here.

    We always hear of the tragedy of the women in these cases, and rightly so, but it really bothers me that we are a generation who saw this happen to a little baby and so rarely if ever make reference to the horror of his story. I feel like if someday that child is 20 and ends up on Prime Time we'll sit there listening and have to feel to an extent, that one's sort of on us, we were the adults who saw newspaper headlines saying that what happened to him was possible under that piece of legislation and then totally lost sight of the child when it did happen.

    Regardless of anyone's feelings on abortion, that child's case has to make anyone shudder.

    EDIT I probably should clarify I think that the life of the mother issue absolutely needed to be addressed and I'm glad they finally moved on it, but feel they should've done better and one person particularly has suffered horribly for it.
    What did become of this child do you know? One of the most shocking cases I heard in a long time for a whole bunch of reasons, and very little talked about. Poor child. Barbaric.


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    #155
    Iwasfrozen
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    Climate change and over population leading the erosion of natural habitats and possible extinction of many animals.

    Especially in Central Africa and Brazil where shrubland / rainforest is being cleared for human farms.


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    #156
    One eyed Jack
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I can't argue with views like that so I'll just do this XOXO

    melissak wrote: »
    Aliens?


    That replies like these had never gotten the appreciation they deserve! Made me laugh anyway :D


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    #157
    tomwaterford
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Especially in Central Africa and Brazil where shrubland / rainforest is being cleared for human farms.


    WTF???

    There farming humans :eek: :pac:


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    #158
    RayM
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    Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »
    Using pieces of paper to clean our arses post defecation

    I'm surprised the three seashells method has yet to catch on.


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    #159
    rubadub
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    Not particular to Ireland but the prohibition of cannabis -people needlessly jailed and the ridiculous loss in potential government revenue, both from taxing and not pissing away money policing it.


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    #160
    Carlos Orange
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    Everyones got their favourite cause celebre but I'll go with the way thousands of people starve to death every day.
    With any luck that won't still be happening.


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    #161
    Capt'n Midnight
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    cdeb wrote: »
    Society's greatest shame in the future?

    Still not having invented a "sarcastic" font.
    Comic sans


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    #162
    Joe prim
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    We're made up of Celts, Normans, Vikings, Anglo-Saxons? Who is we?

    As ever, you leave out the Fir Bolg, driven to near extinction by successive incursions of invaders. As someone of Fir Bolg descent, I feel like i"m in a minority in my homeland, but I just have a few pints and then I don't give a proverbial.


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    #163
    LincolnsBeard
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    The way we treat animals


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    #164
    Eramen
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    Joe prim wrote: »
    As ever, you leave out the Fir Bolg, driven to near extinction by successive incursions of invaders. As someone of Fir Bolg descent, I feel like i"m in a minority in my homeland, but I just have a few pints and then I don't give a proverbial.

    Ah, for a second there I thought that the Fir Bolg were some sort of hardcore Islamist group. Then you mentioned drinking pints and talking shíte.

    The status quo remains fervently in place, thank God.

    However it doesn't change the fact of an Irish minority by 2050.


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    #165
    Depp
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    SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »
    our ability to stop water charges by protest and our inability to accept refugee's fleeing a warzone....

    how sjw's pulled the wool over everyones eyes and islam took over europe...


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    #166
    SpaceSasqwatch
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    Depp wrote: »
    how sjw's pulled the wool over everyones eyes and islam took over europe...

    Lol:rolleyes:

    I'd rather be called a sjw than an Islamaphobic bigot...but hey thats just me!


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    #167
    Dick phelan
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    I don't see how things like the Church, Magdalane Laundries ect would be things to be ashamed of in 2016, those things no longer have control in Ireland thank god, In the modern context i think our attitudes to climate change, the influx of Islam into Europe, The growing wealth divide, i'm not anti capitalist but there is something wrong with a society where 1% of a population controls so much. Not so much an Irish issue yet but the health system in America is one of the most disgusting things in modern society imo, Something truly barbaric about denying a child life saving treatment because they lack money.


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    #168
    Wanderer78
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    Dick phelan wrote: »
    I don't see how things like the Church, Magdalane Laundries ect would be things to be ashamed of in 2016, those things no longer have control in Ireland thank god, In the modern context i think our attitudes to climate change, the influx of Islam into Europe, The growing wealth divide, i'm not anti capitalist but there is something wrong with a society where 1% of a population controls so much. Not so much an Irish issue yet but the health system in America is one of the most disgusting things in modern society imo, Something truly barbaric about denying a child life saving treatment because they lack money.

    no human on this planet should be denied health care treatment due to lack of money. disgraceful behaviour.


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    #169
    MRnotlob606
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    timthumbni wrote: »
    Religion though I'm not that hopeful. In the modern world where all information is at the end of your fingertips on the old tinternet I really don't get why people are still religious.

    You don't seem to understand religious faith.


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    #170
    To Elland Back
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    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    200 years from now

    They haven't gone away you know............


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    #171
    Capt'n Midnight
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    In a 100 years they'll look back and wonder how we could let teenagers go out without hats.


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    #172
    Iwasfrozen
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    no human on this planet should be denied health care treatment due to lack of money. disgraceful behaviour.
    Grand so, we'll tell the masses in Africa Wanderer78 is going to pay for their healthcare.


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    Crann na Beatha
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    #174
    Wanderer78
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Grand so, we'll tell the masses in Africa Wanderer78 is going to pay for their healthcare.

    they could pay for it themselves if they werent indebted to a mainly western banking system


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    #175
    Baggy Trousers
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    I think without doubt, it will be the hold organised religion had on the world.
    It continues to be an idiotic waste of time and prevents progress.


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    #176
    Iwasfrozen
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    they could pay for it themselves if they werent indebted to a mainly western banking system
    Or more accurately, if corruption, totalitarianism, war and outdated socialist economic policies weren't in such vogue.


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    #177
    rubadub
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    Eramen wrote: »
    status quo remains fervently in place, thank God.
    Them boys will still be doing farewell tours in 100 years time.
    Eramen wrote: »
    Imagine the tax we could collect on hit-men. If it's strictly about money in the state coffers what's the problem? Just sayin'.
    Not sure what you are getting at there. Are you imaging murder may be legalised in 100 years time and the government getting income tax from hitmen?! and people will look back asking "how stupid were we not to legalise it sooner, look at all that missed revenue and police time hunting them"


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    #178
    previous user
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    Fiery mutant wrote: »
    Worldwide we still have much of that going on.

    For me, our greatest shame is that we still can't learn from our mistakes. We still marginalise, we still segregate, we still dehumanise.

    Especially people on social welfare are still dehumanised.


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    #179
    Eramen
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    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    I think without doubt, it will be the hold organised religion had on the world.
    It continues to be an idiotic waste of time and prevents progress.


    Okay, okay..

    So it's actually organised religion that's stopping the building of 100,000's of houses so we can't put a roof over the heads of our youth demographic? (keep in mind that 65% of under 35's will never EVER be able to afford a house according to CSO figures.. eh.. wut?)

    And..

    Organised religion is responsible for our country teetering on the edge of mass-public debt - Ireland being the second most indebted nation in the solar system with no hope of ever repaying it off?

    So..

    Organised religion prevents us from constructing a viable alternative to the current political and economic structure, certainly not laziness, public apathy or the lack of swilling pints, indeed some priest saying mass is preventing the enhancement of our country?

    Yeah, your ideology has a few chinks in its armour. IMO it's time get pragmatic and stop dreaming of a world-utopia without 'organised religion'.. which in itself sounds like a pretty bad religion in itself. It's all rather laughable in light of 'progress'.


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    #180
    melissak
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    Eramen wrote: »
    Okay, okay..

    So it's actually organised religion that's stopping the building of 100,000's of houses so we can put a roof over the heads of our youth demographic? (keep in mind that 65% of under 35's will never EVER be able to afford a house according to CSO figures.. eh.. wut?)

    And..

    Organised religion is responsible for our country teetering on the edge of mass-public debt - Ireland being the second most indebted nation in the solar system with no hope of ever repaying it off?


    So..

    Organised religion prevents us from constructing a viable alternative to the current political and economic structure, certainly not laziness, public apathy or the lack of swilling pints, some priest saying mass is preventing this change of the enhancement of our country?

    Yeah, your ideology has a few chinks in its armour. IMO it's time get pragmatic and stop dreaming of a world-utopia without 'organised religion'.. which in itself sounds like a pretty bad religion in itself. It's a rather laughable in light of 'progress'.

    I do think the no religion brigadiers are becoming a bit overzealous these days. Dogmatic atheists with their "don't believe in god or you will be smited, our books make us right and others wrong about something none of us could know" rhetoric put me in mind of fanatic preachers. What does it matter to me what you believe or vice versa. Religion gives comfort to some people. It works for them. Why would you imagine the word would be better if others were made to give up their beliefs? If others want to believe in leprechauns, and they are happy with this and do not harm to others who am I to burst their bubble. Religion and belief do not harm, some do harm in the name of religion but this is not the fault of religion. If it wasn't religion it would be something else some people would use as a tool to ignite hate and fear in order to further their interests.


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