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In a hundred years what will we look back on as our greatest shame?

  • 26-03-2016 9:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭


    If we look back 200 years ago in the western world we can see segregation based on race, chemical weapons like mustard gas, eugenics, throwing single women into "laundries" and also the last dregs of colonialism and the destruction of indigenous cultures.

    Now all of those things were considered acceptable in their own times and it was often the more radical members of society that rebelled against the status quo

    What about the status quo in our day and age? What do you think people will look back on and wonder how was that acceptable?

    One thing that springs to mind is India's caste system. It's a form of apartheid based solely on prejudice. It has no place in a country with a space program.

    Another is the destruction and near extinction of some of our closest relatives the non human apes such as the orangutan or gorilla.

    Any more?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭baldbear


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    If we look back 200 years ago in the western world we can see segregation based on race, chemical weapons like mustard gas, eugenics, throwing single women into "laundries" and also the last dregs of colonialism and the destruction of indigenous cultures.

    Now all of those things were considered acceptable in their own times and it was often the more radical members of society that rebelled against the status quo

    What about the status quo in our day and age? What do you think people will look back on and wonder how was that acceptable?

    One thing that springs to mind is India's caste system. It's a form of apartheid based solely on prejudice. It has no place in a country with a space program.

    Another is the destruction and near extinction of some of our closest relatives the non human apes such as the orangutan or gorilla.

    Any more?

    Tayto chocolate bars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Sciencenerd being made a mod....























    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭MattHelders


    North Korea


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭SpaceSasqwatch


    our ability to stop water charges by protest and our inability to accept refugee's fleeing a warzone....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Climate change


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭somefeen


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    If we look back 200 years ago in the western world we can see segregation based on race, chemical weapons like mustard gas, eugenics, throwing single women into "laundries" and also the last dregs of colonialism and the destruction of indigenous cultures.

    Now all of those things were considered acceptable in their own times and it was often the more radical members of society that rebelled against the status quo

    What about the status quo in our day and age? What do you think people will look back on and wonder how was that acceptable?

    One thing that springs to mind is India's caste system. It's a form of apartheid based solely on prejudice. It has no place in a country with a space program.

    Another is the destruction and near extinction of some of our closest relatives the non human apes such as the orangutan or gorilla.

    Any more?

    I'd argue throwing women into laundries is still Ireland's greatest shame since it still exists in living memory and the people responsible are still around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    The amount of time people wasted on the internet.

    Reality TV.

    Assuming monkeys were the dumb relatives. They were...it's the ****ing cats that need watching.

    If only we had elected Trump ...he foresaw all of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    somefeen wrote: »
    I'd argue throwing women into laundries is still Ireland's greatest shame since it still exists in living memory and the people responsible are still around.

    Yes I wouldn't disagree with that. I'm ashamed of what some Irish people got away with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Worldwide we still have much of that going on.

    For me, our greatest shame is that we still can't learn from our mistakes. We still marginalise, we still segregate, we still dehumanise.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭wurzlitzer


    Homelessness


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭LionelNashe


    I wouldn't assume we'll still be around in 100 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Panti Bliss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Religion though I'm not that hopeful. In the modern world where all information is at the end of your fingertips on the old tinternet I really don't get why people are still religious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Without this descending into a 'bloody bankers' moanfest - the fact that an almost complete lack of independent regulation allowed the financial sector to bring the world economy to its knees, and then we allowed it to just go back to business with very little change.

    No lessons learned whatsoever, it seems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭BlibBlab


    An obesity epidemic side by side with starvation and malnutrition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    Burning fossil fuel and not looking after our natural resources and reserves for our own people.
    Homelessness, hopefully this will be a thing of the past...
    FG
    FF
    All the political parties atm
    Mobile phones
    Banks
    ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Sending Dustin the Turkey as an irish entry to Eurovision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Probably our utter wrecking of the environment while we have a chance to change.

    The whole "only when the last tree etc. is gone will you realise that you can't eat money" will come painfully true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,836 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    I think it could be our attitude to mental health problems. The fact that there's a hidden epidemic of people on anti-depressants but it was never brought up as an issue in the recent general election. This also ties into the homelessness issue as a lot of the long-term homeless people are people with mental illnesses who have fallen through the cracks. I think the issue is slowly improving though and for that reason in 100 years time it could be a lot better situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    No learnings from the boom to bust of the Celtic Tiger era and history repeating itself now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Racism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Icepick


    Abortion ban


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    A 100 years from now people will look back and see many people cared about the world around them and wanted to change it for the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I genuinely think what we think we have to be ashamed of today, will pale in comparison to our lack of humanity in 100 years time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    Is anyone else sick of hearing about what the 1916 signatories would think of the modern Ireland 'they died for'? They didn't live in this time, who gives a **** what they they'd think. It's not easy living in any era.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Getting sentencing ar5ewars.
    Multiple offenders let out to re-offend.
    Steal big and it isn't a problem.
    Put €100 in the poor box and you can box the head off anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Jedward


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Is anyone else sick of hearing about what the 1916 signatories would think of the modern Ireland 'they died for'? They didn't live in this time, who gives a **** what they they'd think. It's not easy living in any era.

    Probably wouldn't have put their lives on the line if they knew it would end up like this...I wouldnt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    Probably wouldn't have put their lives on the line if they knew it would end up like this...I wouldnt

    Of course they would. They fought the imposters. We're a free country now, doing the best we can.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Gentleman Off The Pitch


    Using pieces of paper to clean our arses post defecation


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Direct Provision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Religion though I'm not that hopeful. In the modern world where all information is at the end of your fingertips on the old tinternet I really don't get why people are still religious.

    The mass hysteria and blind belief that a lump of plaster could be dancing a jig up on the side of a cliff in Ballinspittle in Cork in the 80s.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    diomed wrote: »
    Getting sentencing ar5ewars.
    Multiple offenders let out to re-offend.
    Steal big and it isn't a problem.
    Put €100 in the poor box and you can box the head off anyone.

    I wonder does the court poor box have a pre-pay option!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Facebook. If we aren't ashamed of that absolute ridiculous mindfeck then we are lost. Status. On the bog... Taking a whizz, having lunch, out for a walk etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    War in general. I think our great grandchildren will see our recent wars as pointless and as barbaric as we see the nazis. I think I'm 100 years the world will be as United / peaceful as the western countries are today. The idea that army's can go invade another country just won't be an option.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    I think it could be our attitude to mental health problems. The fact that there's a hidden epidemic of people on anti-depressants but it was never brought up as an issue in the recent general election. This also ties into the homelessness issue as a lot of the long-term homeless people are people with mental illnesses who have fallen through the cracks. I think the issue is slowly improving though and for that reason in 100 years time it could be a lot better situation.

    This is a huge and totally ignored issue. The mental health system in this country is shameful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Facebook. If we aren't ashamed of that absolute ridiculous mindfeck then we are lost. Status. On the bog... Taking a whizz, having lunch, out for a walk etc etc.

    Was going to say social media but the more I thought about it the more I believe that it will be even more prevalent in 100 years. People will live more and more within the digital world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    The mass hysteria and blind belief that a lump of plaster could be dancing a jig up on the side of a cliff in Ballinspittle in Cork in the 80s.

    As an Norn iron man raised as a Presbyterian I'm not sure I get that reference though I assume it's to do with statues..... That move. Didn't Del Boy do one with the crying statue??

    Doctor who ripped the arse right out of that one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    The widespread sexual abuse of young children and the cover up by the church/goverments and other state institutions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    War in general. I think our great grandchildren will see our recent wars as pointless and as barbaric as we see the nazis. I think I'm 100 years the world will be as United / peaceful as the western countries are today. The idea that army's can go invade another country just won't be an option.

    Every generation has thought that war was soon to be obsolete.

    Even after WW1 and WW2 people reckoned that after having seen such horrors that people would be too scared ever to go to war again for fear of repeating it.

    Naturally that hasn't happened and wars still occur, on a smaller scale of course. Invasions and standing armies fighting battles just aren't a thing any more. It's just irregulars like ISIL or Russian supported rebels vs state forces.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Was going to say social media but the more I thought about it the more I believe that it will be even more prevalent in 100 years. People will live more and more within the digital world.

    I joined it at the start and then the creeping realisation that my friends were actually brainless morons started to grate on me.

    I particularly dislike the thanks whores who post mind numbing crap they have no knowledge or interest in just for a few thumbs up.

    I agree with you that it will probably get bigger. Most People are morons though so fair plays to them for exploiting said morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    The Iona Institute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Not banning Muslims entry into Europe when we had the chance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    We didn't say stop


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Preset No.3


    Allowing catholic priests to rape innocent children and we did nothing!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I guess the constant assaults we make on human conversation. Under the guise of things like "blasphemy" or "offense" or whatever term we use to shut down conversation.

    I like the term one user used to describe it on boards. We have entered "idea space". And I hope in 100 years we look back in disdain on anyone who was against this move.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭SpaceSasqwatch


    Not banning Muslims entry into Europe when we had the chance

    Giving bigots internet access......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,438 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    War in general. I think our great grandchildren will see our recent wars as pointless and as barbaric as we see the nazis. I think I'm 100 years the world will be as United / peaceful as the western countries are today. The idea that army's can go invade another country just won't be an option.

    im afraid i cant agree with you at all but i wish i could. armies are no longer required to invade countries as theres a new form of warfare, some call it financial terrorism. the future for mankind and this planet looks bleak if we dont make dramatic changes particularly to our financial and economic systems rather quickly. if we keep going the way we re going, it ll all be done and dusted soon.

    our greatest shame, the creation of fundamentally flawed economic theories and systems, neoliberalism and neoclassical theory. these alone could lead to the demise of this planet and the human race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    The soap opera that is Fair City.
    Tubridy Kenny O Connor and Darcy being left as hosts for prime time shows and also their exorbitant salaries for presenting same.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    Sheer ****ing greed.


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