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  • #152
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    I'm running 1024 x 768 and it's not working in google Chrome. I'm getting 'your browser blah blah...'.



    FF has been constantly bugging out on me recently and I hate IE so I'm stuck with Chrome atm.


  • #153
    Mimikyu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,946 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • #154
    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Echoing the dropdown and search now working as expected. Lock works a treat, but has a funky little side effect on the logo image on FF 3.0.10 on OS X.

    menu_locked.png
    menu_open.png

    Works a treat in Safari 4 Beta, looks great.


  • #155
    Ross
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭Ross


    Thanks to those who are providing resolutions, browsers, etc, most helpful, few things didn't upload correctly.

    I'd like to remind you all that this is a beta, it's supposed to be broken, that's why it hasn't just been rolled straight out :). Still, if it's upsetting you, please don't hesitate to revert to the stable, default skin.

    Thanks.


  • #156
    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Cool. New upload seemed to fix the other issues for me, but still seeing the logo funkyness in FF.


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  • #157
    Daysha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Ah that's much better :)

    If I were to be very nit-picky, It'd be nice to have an option to hide the forum search bar. I'm so used to just using the menu's to access the forums, and if I were ever unsure of where a forum is I'd usually just google it.

    If that could be done, then it's perfect!


  • #158
    Mimikyu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,946 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • #159
    Blowfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Working fine this end. I definitely think the addition of a 'gap' to the edge of the screen for the left/right aligned menu's helps. Looks far more organised, even if it's a hack.

    The only small issue I have is that the thread and post searches are the wrong way around. The thread search shows posts and the post search shows threads.

    Other than that, it's looking good :)


  • #160
    eVeNtInE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • #161
    eVeNtInE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • #162
    Blowfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Actually, one other small issue. With the 'Find a forum' bit there, any time you click a link with 'goto=newpost' (e.g. the mails for subscribed threads) or reply to a thread, the top line of text is obscured by the search bit.

    [edit] Example here.


  • #163
    turgon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    Firstly post of the day is there twice under Boards.ie, although thats probebly a non issue!

    More importantly is how the Single Post page is rendering. Im on Firefox 3.3 on Ubuntu 9.04. Getting a gap between the menu and the top of the page when set to locked, this gap disapears when unlocked. The Single Post header is to the right. Something to do with floating divs Id say.

    81351.png

    Resolution 1280x 1024 btw. Sorry if this has already mentioned.


  • #164
    Ross
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭Ross


    Hurrah, fixed some bugs, created a whole host of others, always the way :)

    Thanks for all the info, most appreciated, will continue to poke away at it.


  • #165
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    An option to hide the seacrh bar would be nice. I can learn to live with it though

    Really like the new slimline menu too

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #166
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Looks great, and the auto-suggest thing is cool.


  • #167
    Michellenman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    Is there a reason why the threads of the day are different on Boards Beta and regular Boards?

    Boards Beta tells me it's a thread about hammocks.
    Regular Boards says it's a thread about engagement presents?


  • #168
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Another really minor issue - when you click a link to an anchor within boards (e.g. a specific post), some of it is obscured because it's under the menu. Don't know if there's much you can do about that, and it's only a small thing.


  • #169
    Gordon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Wow! Ross, you deserve a pay rise :)


  • #170
    Michellenman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    eoin wrote: »
    Another really minor issue - when you click a link to an anchor within boards (e.g. a specific post), some of it is obscured because it's under the menu. Don't know if there's much you can do about that, and it's only a small thing.

    Ah yeah it's only a tiny thing. I only noticed it today so I wasn't sure if maybe it was a glitch today or if it's daily. :)


  • #171
    JohnK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    I like the menu but got a bit of weirdness. In only one window of IE7 (Vista/res 1280x800) it came up with a message saying "Hi! Your browser won't show this page properly :( Please try our legacy theme instead!" but only in one window it didnt appear in any of the other windows/tabs I've got open. Also the font size of the menu was much smaller than normal so I dont know what thats all about.

    Anyway I've attached screenshots if its of any use.
    Boards1 is just the normal screen with the message
    Boards2 is the same screen with one of the menus open showing the smaller font size
    Boards3 is another window that didnt have the message and had the normal menu font size

    Only suggestion I'd make is to have the menu open quicker than its doing now. Just feels like it takes an age for it to pop open.


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  • #172
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    Michellenman wrote: »
    Is there a reason why the threads of the day are different on Boards Beta and regular Boards?

    Boards Beta tells me it's a thread about hammocks.
    Regular Boards says it's a thread about engagement presents?

    The thread of the day is calculated when the menu is regenerated each night. Since the beta menu is not getting generated nightly by the same process as the old menu, they're not going to have the same thread of the day.
    eoin wrote: »
    Another really minor issue - when you click a link to an anchor within boards (e.g. a specific post), some of it is obscured because it's under the menu. Don't know if there's much you can do about that, and it's only a small thing.

    That's on the list of things to fix if possible.
    Gordon wrote: »
    Wow! Ross, you deserve a pay rise :)

    Yes, yes he does. :)
    JohnK wrote: »
    I like the menu but got a bit of weirdness. In only one window of IE7 (Vista/res 1280x800) it came up with a message saying "Hi! Your browser won't show this page properly :( Please try our legacy theme instead!" but only in one window it didnt appear in any of the other windows/tabs I've got open. Also the font size of the menu was much smaller than normal so I dont know what thats all about.

    Those symptoms sound like it was detecting your browser dimensions as smaller than 800x600. The menu is still in development so breakage like that is a little expected.
    JohnK wrote: »
    Only suggestion I'd make is to have the menu open quicker than its doing now. Just feels like it takes an age for it to pop open.

    Persuade Ross that Jakob Nielsen is wrong. :)

    Seriously though, some of the delay is deliberate and some is due to your browser spending time rendering the menus. If the delay is shortened too much, it will be too fast for people with fast browsers (Chrome, Safari 4, IE8, etc.) and the menus will pop up when the mouse pointer is "passing through" on its way to a browser component. Conversely, if we add too much artificial delay, those on slow browsers (IE6, old Firefox versions) will find it intolerably long.


  • #173
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    It does seem to be working fine on my 7" eeepc now, didn't see any message about the it thinking it wouldn't work either.


  • #174
    JohnK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Conor wrote: »
    Persuade Ross that Jakob Nielsen is wrong. :)
    Oi Ross, that Jakob Nielsen fella is dead wrong!!! :p

    Conor wrote: »
    Seriously though, some of the delay is deliberate and some is due to your browser spending time rendering the menus. If the delay is shortened too much, it will be too fast for people with fast browsers (Chrome, Safari 4, IE8, etc.) and the menus will pop up when the mouse pointer is "passing through" on its way to a browser component. Conversely, if we add too much artificial delay, those on slow browsers (IE6, old Firefox versions) will find it intolerably long.
    If its partially an artificial induced delay then would it be possible to have a setting in the control panel that allows that bit to be reduced or eliminated? You could even put it in the menu itself next to the padlock icon. Perhaps icons of a tortoise and a hare? :D

    At least it would give people the choice then so those who prefer the faster menus could get them without affecting others.


  • #175
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    JohnK wrote: »
    If its partially an artificial induced delay then would it be possible to have a setting in the control panel that allows that bit to be reduced or eliminated? You could even put it in the menu itself next to the padlock icon. Perhaps icons of a tortoise and a hare? :D

    At least it would give people the choice then so those who prefer the faster menus could get them without affecting others.

    That option might be possible but I'm wary of anything that might add further personalised server-side time or further Javascript to the page. The speed of response for the site is highly dependent on the amount of personalisation (the more personalised a page is, the less opportunity we have for caching stuff) and on the amount of Javascript run on each page.


  • #176
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Occasionally the drop down menu won't go away after you hover away from it. I've found this browsing fora and when trying to post. Not particular to any category.

    Also, you can't access the menus until the page has fully loaded; under the older menu you could which, if you knew where you were going, was a lot quicker.


  • #177
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Conor wrote: »
    Persuade Ross that Jakob Nielsen is wrong. :)

    It would be a sad day for the interwebs if more sites looked like Nielson's.


  • #178
    Daysha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    I know I had suggested being able to hide the forum search bar, but if it's decided to keep it along with the menu, perhaps you could be a bit more productive with all that white space along side it? I mean if the purpose of the scrolling menu bar is to quickly access the different forums, then maybe a few more links would be even more handy.

    Just off the top of my head (without cluttering the bar), links to our PM's and our Control Panel/User Profile would be very handy.


  • #179
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Daysha wrote: »
    Just off the top of my head (without cluttering the bar), links to our PM's and our Control Panel/User Profile would be very handy.

    Even being able to type them into the cool "search forums" textbox would be great.


  • #180
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    yeah we can certainly look at new features like that. I'd like to get the final buginnis out of it before creeping the scope of the project </project manager>

    DeV.


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  • #181
    Sully
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Excellent improvements folks, much better. I agree with quick links to fill up the white space alright. Good to see the implementation of the "Find a forum" - was this originally held back due to load time increases?


  • #182
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    No, more about getting the first beta out so it could be reviewed by the people here before adding on that part. I dont think it has much load on the server at all tbh.

    DeV.


  • #183
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Daysha wrote: »
    I know I had suggested being able to hide the forum search bar, but if it's decided to keep it along with the menu, perhaps you could be a bit more productive with all that white space along side it? I mean if the purpose of the scrolling menu bar is to quickly access the different forums, then maybe a few more links would be even more handy.

    Just off the top of my head (without cluttering the bar), links to our PM's and our Control Panel/User Profile would be very handy.

    Not sure if you need them as stand alone links when they are available in the boards.ie drop down menu in the current version?


  • #184
    Slydice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I still think the slowness is too much even if it's part of the design. Maybe add an option to allow users to increase the speed.

    Still though, I think it's more a bar with site maps than a menu now.


  • #185
    CuLT
    Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    Sully wrote: »
    Excellent improvements folks, much better. I agree with quick links to fill up the white space alright. Good to see the implementation of the "Find a forum" - was this originally held back due to load time increases?
    The "find a forum" feature is actually very lean. It queries a static array that is generated with the menu itself, so there is no need to query the database. The autocompleter itself also does some clientside caching of results.

    Unfortunately it's pretty much the only search feature on boards that is particularly straight-forward and low-cost (time and resource-wise) to implement :)


  • #186
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Slydice wrote: »
    I still think the slowness is too much even if it's part of the design. Maybe add an option to allow users to increase the speed.

    i'd agree with this tbh, I'm finding myself clicking it as a reflex fair bit now as it takes so long to react to the rollover.


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  • #187
    eVeNtInE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • #188
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I don’t know if this is possible but is it possible to get forums with restricted access (such as the mod forum) to show up in the menu list without having to click into the category?


  • #189
    CuLT
    Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    kearnsr wrote: »
    I don’t know if this is possible but is it possible to get forums with restricted access (such as the mod forum) to show up in the menu list without having to click into the category?
    Fraid not for the moment, still haven't got a robust solution.


  • #190
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    CuLT wrote: »
    Fraid not for the moment, still haven't got a robust solution.

    Can you explain (for a simple person) why it isnt possible?


  • #191
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    if you sub to the private forums they'll appear in the subbed drop down.


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  • #192
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    kearnsr wrote: »
    Can you explain (for a simple person) why it isnt possible?

    To show the private forums, you'd have to either generate the menu once per page view (and slow down every page you see) or generate it once per user (and write a whole bunch of extra files to disk and write some code to clean up/update out-of-date copies of the menu).

    At the moment, the menu only needs to be regenerated once per day and we can serve the same menu to everyone.


  • #193
    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Conor wrote: »
    To show the private forums, you'd have to either generate the menu once per page view (and slow down every page you see) or generate it once per user (and write a whole bunch of extra files to disk and write some code to clean up/update out-of-date copies of the menu).

    At the moment, the menu only needs to be regenerated once per day and we can serve the same menu to everyone.
    Mind if I ask how you overcome that with the Subbed list section? Not nitpicking, just genuinely curious.


  • #194
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    aidan_walsh wrote: »
    Mind if I ask how you overcome that with the Subbed list section? Not nitpicking, just genuinely curious.

    glad someone else asked. it would appear that all of the above has to be done to generate the subbed menu anyway, it has to be per user??


  • #195
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I might be well off, but it could be to do with how it's stored in the database. It might be a much less intensive query to get the subbed forums.


  • #196
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Since the subbed menu included private forums I can only conclude its a per user query.


  • #197
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    The subbed menu, control panel and search are added in after the fact with per-user code. The main chunk of the menu is static.

    EDIT: It's not that the query for all the forums is expensive, it's that the data about the forums and categories is not in a particularly useful form in the database and needs some processing after it comes out.


  • #198
    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Conor wrote: »
    The subbed menu, control panel and search are added in after the fact with per-user code. The main chunk of the menu is static.

    EDIT: It's not that the query for all the forums is expensive, it's that the data about the forums and categories is not in a particularly useful form in the database and needs some processing after it comes out.
    Thats cool, I had figured that was most likely the case. Just wanted to confirm.


  • #199
    Ross
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭Ross


    Update with confirmed bugs:
    • Firefox: Hovering from a menu on to an adjacent input or textfield breaks the "off hover" event handling, making the menu appear to "stick". This can be resolved by hovering back over the menu or to another menu item. No known solution yet.
    • Chrome: Occasionally, a warning message will display saying "[noparse]Hi! Your browser won't show this page properly :( Please try our legacy theme instead![/noparse]". A potential fix for this has been deployed, so if the warning is still spotted, please report it!
    • All Browsers: Positioning problems; the menu overlaps information and that information is partially misaligned on the "showpost" page, not enough space between menu and content on front pages, title/logo is positioned incorrectly, somewhat evident in IE. Will be fixed.


  • #200
    Gordon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Ross wrote: »
    Update with confirmed bugs:
    • All Browsers: Positioning problems; the menu overlaps information and that information is partially misaligned on the "showpost" page, not enough space between menu and content on front pages, title/logo is positioned incorrectly, somewhat evident in IE. Will be fixed.

    How about a button next to the padlock icon to hide the menu via css onclick? It only hides it just the once for that page if you click it. Or edit the showpost.php to put a few <br>s before the post <table>? Although I imagine you have thought of that.


  • #201
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Ross wrote: »
    Update with confirmed bugs:
    • Chrome: Occasionally, a warning message will display saying "[noparse]Hi! Your browser won't show this page properly :( Please try our legacy theme instead![/noparse]". A potential fix for this has been deployed, so if the warning is still spotted, please report it!
    I'm still getting this warning message a lot (but not all the time) and when I do get it, the text in the menu shrinks to make it almost illegible.


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