Did anyone see this UFO last Friday

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 10:19am

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Saw on twitter earlier sum1 saying New Zealand launched a rocket with a satellite onboard and it travelled up this way. Could explain it?

Since when has New Zealand had a space rocket/satellite launching site?

josip · 13-11-2018 10:19am

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Since when have New Zealand had a space rocket/satellite launching site?

Last few years, it's battery powered. Not the Duracell type.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-rocketlab-launch/new-zealand-launches-into-space-race-with-3d-printed-rocket-idUSKBN18L0I3

Jerichoholic · 13-11-2018 10:27am

The fact that we are even living and breathing proves that absolutely anything is possible. If 3 or 4 trained pilots who fly most days, and have done for years didn't recognise it as a meteor shower or debris and couldn't explain it then I'll tend to believe them over a few smart arses on a web board.

Hector Savage · 13-11-2018 10:29am

_Brian wrote: »

Here’s the thing.
I’ll put my hands up and say I nor I guess anyone else can’t prove it was an alien spacecraft.

I’ll opem the floor for you or anyone to prove 100% it wasn’t ??

Come on now !!
Prooving a negative ? this is like saying proove God doesn't exist - you can't therefore he does !

Can you proove that ʻOumuamua object doesn't contain a bunch of _____ insert anything in here ???

Elvis Presley fans from the future ?

Scientologists !! so its all really true !!

:eek:

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 11:03am

josip wrote: »

Last few years, it's battery powered. Not the Duracell type.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-rocketlab-launch/new-zealand-launches-into-space-race-with-3d-printed-rocket-idUSKBN18L0I3

I didn`t know that this existed. If NZ can have a spaceport then maybe Ireland can too. There are a few suitable locations I can think of.;):rolleyes: Anyway the latest launch was on Sunday, not Friday so unless the Kiwis have also developed time travel then it had nothing to do with what was observed by the aircraft crews.

BTW while on the subject of the NZ spaceport I just spotted something interesting. Take a look at this photo of Sunday`s launch. What is that object in the sky to the left of the rocket?:eek:

maccored · 13-11-2018 11:12am

kneemos wrote: »

Didn't see any reports of stopping or reversing.

did you listen to the audio?

josip · 13-11-2018 11:25am

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

BTW while on the subject of the NZ spaceport I just spotted something interesting. Take a look at this photo of Sunday`s launch. What is that object in the sky to the left of the rocket?:eek:

Probably a drone used by the launch company to record footage of the launch.

If all goes well, footage gets sent to the Marketing Department.
If less than well, footage gets sent to Engineering/Troubleshooting.

ThunderCat · 13-11-2018 11:45am

josip wrote: »

No. We don't live in New Zealand.

Rockets don't enter space by shooting straight 'up' from their launch sights. When they escape the atmosphere they are travelling on a far flatter plane. Quite plausible and entirely possible that a rocket launched from NZ is no longer still over NZ when it reaches escape velocity.

ThunderCat · 13-11-2018 11:46am

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I didn`t know that this existed. If NZ can have a spaceport then maybe Ireland can too. There are a few suitable locations I can think of.;):rolleyes: Anyway the latest launch was on Sunday, not Friday so unless the Kiwis have also developed time travel then it had nothing to do with what was observed by the aircraft crews.

BTW while on the subject of the NZ spaceport I just spotted something interesting. Take a look at this photo of Sunday`s launch. What is that object in the sky to the left of the rocket?:eek:

That's a bird.

bangkok · 13-11-2018 11:47am

ThunderCat wrote: »

Rockets don't enter space by shooting straight 'up' from their launch sights. When they escape the atmosphere they are travelling on a far flatter plane. Quite plausible and entirely possible that a rocket launched from NZ is no longer still over NZ when it reaches escape velocity.

Correct but its also not over the south west coast of ireland either

wexie · 13-11-2018 11:49am

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

What is that object in the sky to the left of the rocket?:eek:

here's a closer shot

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topper75 · 13-11-2018 11:50am

The amount of Irish people pushing for aliens on this concerns me. I'm concerned about my own failure to devise a money-making scheme to capitalise on their naïvety.

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 12:04pm

bangkok wrote: »

Correct but its also not over the south west coast of ireland either

Yes and also not on Friday.

bangkok · 13-11-2018 12:08pm

topper75 wrote: »

The amount of Irish people pushing for aliens on this concerns me. I'm concerned about my own failure to devise a money-making scheme to capitalise on their naïvety.

So you think 3 pilots reported on something strange just for the craic?

topper75 · 13-11-2018 12:18pm

bangkok wrote: »

So you think 3 pilots reported on something strange just for the craic?

Which pilot claims it was aliens?

josip · 13-11-2018 12:23pm

ThunderCat wrote: »

Rockets don't enter space by shooting straight 'up' from their launch sights. When they escape the atmosphere they are travelling on a far flatter plane. Quite plausible and entirely possible that a rocket launched from NZ is no longer still over NZ when it reaches escape velocity.

"The BA pilot, flying from Montreal to Heathrow, describes how the UFO came up along the left-hand side of the aircraft, “then rapidly veered to the north”

The 787's service ceiling is 13,100m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner

New Zealand is roughly on the other side of the world.
(I can include a link if you need it)

Do you really believe that it's plausible for a rocket to do 6 laps of the earth before it makes it to even LEO?

yourdeadwright · 13-11-2018 12:25pm

Most likely they say a Russian or US fighter jet,
IF anyone remembers last year there was two Russian fighters seen over the coast here keeping a close eye in the UK

I know a pilot and he say's plenty of the older guys have see nod things in the sky but don't report it as they don't want to be seen as going a bit crazy, No body wants a crazy pilot

Aliens claim is what governments with new technology want the general public to think , Its funny as humans we go for the outrageous answer instead of the obvious that its a man made craft that someone doesn't want you to know about,

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 12:30pm

josip wrote: »

The 787's service ceiling is 13,100m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner

New Zealand is roughly on the other side of the world.
(I can include a link if you need it)

Do you really believe that it's plausible for a rocket to do 6 laps of the earth before it makes it to even LEO?

This is all irrelevant anyway as the NZ rocket launch took place on Sunday morning GMT not Friday morning. Whatever was seen by the aircraft crews was definitely not any NZ rocket.

josip · 13-11-2018 12:33pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

This is all irrelevant anyway as the NZ rocket launch took place on Sunday morning GMT not Friday morning. Whatever was seen by the aircfaft crews was definitely not any NZ rocket.

If it's capable of getting to LEO after 6 atmospheric laps of the earth, then it's 'quite plausible and entirely possible' that it's capable of time travel.
And driven by Elvis.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 13-11-2018 12:34pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Northern lights

Have you ever seen the northern lights, do you even know what they look like? How could anyone mistake a small bright moving light/object for the northern lights.... :rolleyes:

Cee-Jay-Cee · 13-11-2018 12:36pm

An Ri rua wrote: »

Similarly, less than a decade ago, in the horizon east towards Croghan Hill/Kildare border direction, I saw a starlike light travel at a fixed speed in a dead straight trajectory from right to left across the horizon. Then at the end of that run, shoot up vertical having g changed direction at a right angle. I was perplexed, then dumbfounded afterwards as I thought about it.
I am a night sky observer and what I saw was highly unusual. Upon research, that trajectory matched other sightings.
Imagine people second-guessing pilots, Gardai, army personnel, etc etc. Is there no end to the hubris of science worshippers?
Quality observations gleaned from quality observers should be treated with sceptical respect.

According to some of the idiots on this thread what you saw could have been the Northern Lights or a meteor or maybe even a planet. :rolleyes:

topper75 · 13-11-2018 12:47pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Most likely they say a Russian or US fighter jet,
IF anyone remembers last year there was two Russian fighters seen over the coast here keeping a close eye in the UK

I know a pilot and he say's plenty of the older guys have see nod things in the sky but don't report it as they don't want to be seen as going a bit crazy, No body wants a crazy pilot

Aliens claim is what governments with new technology want the general public to think , Its funny as humans we go for the outrageous answer instead of the obvious that its a man made craft that someone doesn't want you to know about,

True there is history with this in Roswell. I don't the initial thing was that clever. They botched the attempted cover up (balloon to catch evidence of Soviet nuke testing on the ionisphere) and only when they saw the initial paranoia did they realise how 'healthy' that would be to avoid attention coming on to what they were really at. What was initially accidental became deliberate. Crazies nattering about aliens is just the ticket to keep noses out of your classified work. Hollywood didn't shirk its role.

bangkok · 13-11-2018 12:52pm

topper75 wrote: »

Which pilot claims it was aliens?

I didnt say that and neither did the pilots but meteors dont speed up and change direction...

bangkok · 13-11-2018 12:56pm

topper75 wrote: »

True there is history with this in Roswell. I don't the initial thing was that clever. They botched the attempted cover up (balloon to catch evidence of Soviet nuke testing on the ionisphere) and only when they saw the initial paranoia did they realise how 'healthy' that would be to avoid attention coming on to what they were really at. What was initially accidental became deliberate. Crazies nattering about aliens is just the ticket to keep noses out of your classified work. Hollywood didn't shirk its role.

Would you call people in top level jobs "crazies" or astronuts who have also claimed to have seen ufos in space?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

wexie · 13-11-2018 12:59pm

Here you go folks, I give you the Lockheed Martin SR-72, aka Son of Blackbird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_SR-72

http://uk.businessinsider.com/sr-72-lockheed-martin-hinted-may-already-exist-2018-1?r=US&IR=T

Last year, reports emerged that Lockheed might test an "optionally piloted" flight research vehicle in 2018, and an actual test flight in 2020.

Reporters at Aviation Week also reportedly caught a glimpse last year of a "demonstrator vehicle" that may have been linked to the SR-72.

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 1:20pm

wexie wrote: »

Here you go folks, I give you the Lockheed Martin SR-72, aka Son of Blackbird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_SR-72

http://uk.businessinsider.com/sr-72-lockheed-martin-hinted-may-already-exist-2018-1?r=US&IR=T

I suppose this is plausible although why they would choose to test fly this aircraft right in the middle of a busy transatlantic air corridor with a high risk of collisions occurring rather than in, for example, the restricted airspace over Area 51 is beyond me.

wexie · 13-11-2018 1:27pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I suppose this is plausible although why they would choose to test fly this proposed aircraft right in the middle of a busy transatlantic air corridor rather than in some more isolated airspace is beyond me.

that, I don't know, although if I had to guess if you're going mach 5+ (which this thing supposedly is capable of) you'd be out of isolated airspace quick enough.

People seem to forget that the SR-71 first flew in 1964!!!! and that was capable of Mach 3 and beyond.

Who knows what's out there these days. Could be aliens, or just 'alien' to us mere mortals.

yourdeadwright · 13-11-2018 1:29pm

bangkok wrote: »

Would you call people in top level jobs "crazies" or astronuts who have also claimed to have seen ufos in space?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

UFO does not mean Aliens is simply mean's unidentified flying object ,
Again governments have history of hiding there own advancements from the public,

Have you ever seen the story of where eating carrots is good for eyesight came from ? If not strangely enough it came from government trying to hide technology ,

The royal air force had Radar (no one else did) and when asked how the polit's where so good in the dark, on spot one of the general's to hide the radar said they eat lots of carrots and could see better in the dark,

13-11-2018 2:33pm

Maybe this was shared already. Someone seemingly caught it on camera....

https://youtu.be/w228jJJI1UE

Edited to add: prepare to be underwhelmed!!!

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 3:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe this was shared already. Someone seemingly caught it on camera....

https://youtu.be/w228jJJI1UE

Edited to add: prepare to be underwhelmed!!!

Fairly obvious that the "UFO" in this clip is a high altitude airplane. It has nothing to do with what was seen on Friday morning.

vicwatson · 13-11-2018 3:10pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Fairly obvious that the "UFO" in this clip is a high altitude airplane. It has nothing to do with what was seen on Friday morning.

Have those, what look like chinese lanterns, filmed on Saturday afternoon on Cork anything to do with it I wonder?

Dude that filmed it was on Dermot and Dave this a.m. the video is on their website

bangkok · 13-11-2018 3:18pm

vicwatson wrote: »

Have those, what look like chinese lanterns, filmed on Saturday afternoon on Cork anything to do with it I wonder?

Dude that filmed it was on Dermot and Dave this a.m. the video is on their website

chinese lanterns wouldnt be travelling at mach 2

topper75 · 13-11-2018 3:27pm

bangkok wrote: »

I didnt say that and neither did the pilots but meteors dont speed up and change direction...

But we can be absolute that meteors don't change direction.

And never sure then that aliens don't exist "how can we know".

hmmm

Admit it you just like the excitement of the aliens idea. That is why you and other proponents of the aliens idea ignore Occam's razor.

bangkok · 13-11-2018 3:28pm

topper75 wrote: »

But we can be absolute that meteors don't change direction.

And never sure then that aliens don't exist "how can we know".

hmmm

Admit it you just like the excitement of the aliens idea. That is why you and other proponents of the aliens idea ignore Occam's razor.

If that video was taken on saturday morning time it could have been the international space station passing by

topper75 · 13-11-2018 3:35pm

bangkok wrote: »

chinese lanterns wouldnt be travelling at mach 2

Recall that was not an instrument measurement. That was a pilot reporting a visual observation of the trajectory of an unexpected light along the sky.

I'm not saying lantern/new plane/meteor - but I will say all these things before the childish alien spacecraft nonsense. There is no call to jump to the fantastic.

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 3:37pm

bangkok wrote: »

If that video was taken on saturday morning time it could have been the international space station passing by

The OP of that clip states in one of his comments that he recorded the footage at around 4.30 last Saturday afternoon.

punisher5112 · 13-11-2018 3:41pm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Have you ever seen the northern lights, do you even know what they look like? How could anyone mistake a small bright moving light/object for the northern lights.... :rolleyes:

It was a joke .....

Smoked hams um smoked hams.......

punisher5112 · 13-11-2018 3:42pm

It was Clark on his sled lubed up big time.....

Cork Boy 53 · 13-11-2018 3:50pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

It was a joke .....

Smoked hams um smoked hams.......

punisher5112 wrote: »

It was Clark on his sled lubed up big time.....

You`re not goatboy by any chance?

bangkok · 13-11-2018 4:01pm

topper75 wrote: »

Recall that was not an instrument measurement. That was a pilot reporting a visual observation of the trajectory of an unexpected light along the sky.

I'm not saying lantern/new plane/meteor - but I will say all these things before the childish alien spacecraft nonsense. There is no call to jump to the fantastic.

"Childish alien spacecraft nonsense"??

There are loads of cases that involved both visual and radar sightings that havent been explained...

A very famous case.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident

TheBoyConor · 13-11-2018 4:06pm

My calculations predict that it's a 3D printed time travelling flying saucer from New Zealand driven by the 1992 All Blacks. Backs to the wall and brace yourself for an epidemic of MONSTER ANAL PROBES!!

On a serious note, I do thinks it is either a meteor of some sort, space junk re-entering or, since as it apparently didn't show up on any radar, a stealth military plane of russian or american origin.

bangkok wrote: »

Would you call people in top level jobs "crazies" or astronuts who have also claimed to have seen ufos in space?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

That Rendlesham incident has so many things that go against it that it doesn't really have any credibility left. - The landing beacons and the brightest lighthouse in the UK were nearby and known to have strange visual effects in foggy weather. There were no independent witnesses. The witnesses all knew eachother so could have colluded.
And a craft with legs and coloured flashing lights? Seriously? Could they have had any less imagination for what a ET craft might look like?

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I suppose this is plausible although why they would choose to test fly this aircraft right in the middle of a busy transatlantic air corridor with a high risk of collisions occurring rather than in, for example, the restricted airspace over Area 51 is beyond me.

An experimental hypersonic craft is plausible of course. Due to altitude it might not show up on civilian radar which is geared for relatively low altitudes where commercial, private and regular military flights operate. It may well have showed up on military radar systems but they are hardly gonna say it did, are they?

The SR 72 project could be possible but I would say it is unlikely. A few thoughts on that one:
- it is only in it's very early development stages so they would be unlikely to test it too the far side of the atlantic at this stage.
- It is a LM internal project and is not funded by the military, so the military are unlikely to grant LM to test or operate it in the Nevada T&TR, ie Area 51.
- Wherever they might test it, they are not going to make unannounced intrusions into EU airspace. That would be madness! Imagine the ****storm for LM if it collided and crashed. It would be a disaster for the company.

punisher5112 · 13-11-2018 5:18pm

Has anyone come forward to say they were probed, probed big time......

No of course not this isn't America.....

vicwatson · 13-11-2018 5:27pm

bangkok wrote: »

chinese lanterns wouldnt be travelling at mach 2

Ok, wanna-be wise guy, did you look at the video I referred to? obviously not:rolleyes:

punisher5112 · 13-11-2018 5:28pm

Santa clause on his test run.....

ThunderCat · 13-11-2018 5:32pm

josip wrote: »

The 787's service ceiling is 13,100m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner

New Zealand is roughly on the other side of the world.
(I can include a link if you need it)

Do you really believe that it's plausible for a rocket to do 6 laps of the earth before it makes it to even LEO?

No I don't. I was pointing out it doesn't leave the atmosphere by flying 'straight up'. I never said that's what the pilots saw. It wasn't.

Cheerful Spring · 13-11-2018 6:22pm

topper75 wrote: »

The amount of Irish people pushing for aliens on this concerns me. I'm concerned about my own failure to devise a money-making scheme to capitalise on their naïvety.

Why is it impossibility do you think we are alone and we are the only intelligent beings? We live in space in a sphere no less.

Give another thousand years we be landing on different planets.

bangkok · 13-11-2018 6:22pm

vicwatson wrote: »

Ok, wanna-be wise guy, did you look at the video I referred to? obviously not:rolleyes:

Sorry got wires crossed there, thought you were talking about what the pilots seen

Ipso · 13-11-2018 6:23pm

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Why is it impossibility do you think we are alone and we are the only intelligent beings? We live in space in a sphere no less.

Give another thousand years we be landing on different planets.

It's not, but just because there is a possibility of life existing somewhere else doesn't mean they are constantly visiting us without saying hello or that we should listen to "experts" in a field where absolutely no hard evidence exists.

Cheerful Spring · 13-11-2018 6:28pm

Ipso wrote: »

It's not, but just because there is a possibility of life existing somewhere else doesn't mean they are constantly visiting us without saying hello or that we should listen to "experts" in a field where absolutely no hard evidence exists.

Do they have to land and tell us who they are? If they are not human why are you expecting communication? We barely get on with other humans never mind aliens. They might have reasons to not reveal themselves openly. We be looking to steal their technology or get hold of it and eventually we might use it against them.

Cheerful Spring · 13-11-2018 6:37pm

TheBoyConor wrote: »

My calculations predict that it's a 3D printed time travelling flying saucer from New Zealand driven by the 1992 All Blacks. Backs to the wall and brace yourself for an epidemic of MONSTER ANAL PROBES!!

On a serious note, I do thinks it is either a meteor of some sort, space junk re-entering or, since as it apparently didn't show up on any radar, a stealth military plane of russian or american origin.

That Rendlesham incident has so many things that go against it that it doesn't really have any credibility left. - The landing beacons and the brightest lighthouse in the UK were nearby and known to have strange visual effects in foggy weather. There were no independent witnesses. The witnesses all knew eachother so could have colluded.
And a craft with legs and coloured flashing lights? Seriously? Could they have had any less imagination for what a ET craft might look like?

An experimental hypersonic craft is plausible of course. Due to altitude it might not show up on civilian radar which is geared for relatively low altitudes where commercial, private and regular military flights operate. It may well have showed up on military radar systems but they are hardly gonna say it did, are they?

The SR 72 project could be possible but I would say it is unlikely. A few thoughts on that one:
- it is only in it's very early development stages so they would be unlikely to test it too the far side of the atlantic at this stage.
- It is a LM internal project and is not funded by the military, so the military are unlikely to grant LM to test or operate it in the Nevada T&TR, ie Area 51.
- Wherever they might test it, they are not going to make unannounced intrusions into EU airspace. That would be madness! Imagine the ****storm for LM if it collided and crashed. It would be a disaster for the company.

Rendlesham was audio recorded in real time as it happened. Col Halt (deputy commander) brought a tape recorder with him, unfortunately, it only ran for a certain time. You hear the men in 1980 describing events in real time. Clear evidence it was not faked. Radar station nearby also picked up multiple unknown objects coming in from the coastline.

The recording from 1980

Did anyone see this UFO last Friday

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