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    #3002
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Or in the real animal kingdom, those squirrels that can't collect enough acorns die of starvation because the better squirrels survive as per "survival of the fittest."
    It played into this small idea called evolution. A fella called darwin wrote a little known book about it, you should check it out. Sponging off others is a uniquely human trait.

    What about the bone idle entitled squirrel who pops out squirrel kittens and expects more acorns than anyone else but never puts into the acorn pot ??


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    #3003
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I provided an example, and you ignored it.

    And you never once responded to any of the points I made. You just said - oh this is their MO, the enablers for the lazy etc. It must kill you that I pay tax on my high salary yet still don't think that makes me superior to Ms Cash.


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    #3004
    stratowide
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    22michael44 wrote: »
    wooosh

    Is that the sound of your Che Guevara t-shirt going up in flames..?


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    #3005
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Speak for yourself, I could lose my job tomorrow, I'd have enough to live on for 18 months including my bills and mortgage. Not including my entitlements, which I would claim as I've be contributing taxes for the 10 in this country.

    I would be in pretty much the same position now. But only because I would have mortgage savings account to fall back on and I'm very lucky how little rent I pay in this market.

    Most wouldn't though as was pretty evident over the last ten years.


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    #3006
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Interesting spot on Pat Kenny this morning. Just after the 10am news for anyone trying to find it on the podcast later.

    I was driving & taking calls on the hands free so only caught bits here and there. Seemed to be a genuine piece on social welfare. They talked about a possible increase & asked do we pay too much. I think children allowance was mentioned too.

    I think many here would find it interesting & suggest a listen on when the podcast is posted later today


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    #3007
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    What about the bone idle entitled squirrel who pops out squirrel kittens and expects more acorns than anyone else but never puts into the acorn pot ??

    Referring to human children as vermin now.


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    #3008
    zell12
    Registered Users Posts: 23,481 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Interesting spot on Pat Kenny this morning. Just after the 10am news for anyone trying to find it on the podcast later.
    They are quoting a Dept of Finance report
    We’re a welfare nation
    Almost every person in Ireland benefits, directly or indirectly, from some form of social welfare payment
    We rely too much on “monetary social transfers” to address social inequalities.


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    #3009
    Melendez
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    #3010
    PlaneSpeeking
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    zell12 wrote: »
    They are quoting a Dept of Finance report
    We’re a welfare nation
    Almost every person in Ireland benefits, directly or indirectly, from some form of social welfare payment
    We rely too much on “monetary social transfers” to address social inequalities.

    I would take the "almost everyone" with a pinch of salt.

    Unless they're arguing that my dad's nursing home payment that he tops up with his pension somehow "indirectly benefits" me ?


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    22michael44
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭22michael44


    Igotadose wrote: »
    This is an overview of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act that Bill Clinton signed in 1996. It has resulted in a huge reduction in Welfare in the US. Not sure how much would work here in Ireland - a lot of the change was due to moving welfare to the States, rather than the Federal Government, and some States have cut it drastically (I think Georgia at one point recently claimed no one receiving TANF). Some of the principles seem pretty good to me - lifetime limits, enforcing child support, discouraging out-of-wedlock births, requiring work after 2 years of benefits.

    Ending welfare as an entitlement program;
    Requiring recipients to begin working after two years of receiving benefits;
    Placing a lifetime limit of five years on benefits paid by federal funds;
    Aiming to encourage two-parent families and discouraging out-of-wedlock births;
    Enhancing enforcement of child support; and
    Requiring state professional and occupational licenses to be withheld from illegal immigrant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Work_Opportunity_Act#Provisions

    you need to get a grip if you're looking longingly towards America and their lack of a welfare safety net. you really do.


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    #3012
    tom1ie
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Renua. They have dropped their fist tax policy. They don’t support welfare increases and no patty should at the moment. There is absolutely no grounds for them, except when you’re a politician and that’s the demographic that you are targeting. Usc should be abolished and can be abolished. No welfare increases for several years would comfortably pay for it ...

    But Rena are an ultra catholic group. Why do party’s who propose reform of the welfare system have to be catholic groups. It’s a separation of church and state that’s required not further integration in my opinion.


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    22michael44
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭22michael44


    stratowide wrote: »
    Is that the sound of your Che Guevara t-shirt going up in flames..?

    are you asking me to clarify what the sound of a point flying over your head is?


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    #3014
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Melendez wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I will honestly say, if I was self employed there would be no way in hell I’d declare all the tax I was supposed to be paying, as I know the tax money would go towards paying for the likes of ms cash and her extravagant lifestyle.
    However if the welfare system were reformed I’d gladly pay full tax, and not just the welfare system but the health system too. That’s another shambles.
    I’ve no choice at the moment, I have to pay tax as I’m employed.


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    #3015
    forgodssake
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    22michael44 wrote:
    'sick of looking at her' says the person stalking her facebook page you guys amuse me


    I'm glad I amuse you .


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    #3016
    Idbatterim
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    But Rena are an ultra catholic group. Why do party’s who propose reform of the welfare system have to be catholic groups. It’s a separation of church and state that’s required not further integration in my opinion.
    They’d have no influence on social policy. They are at odds with all other parties. Sure the gay marriage and eighth amendment, would hardly be overturned if they got in! But they would have a say on economic policy, which is what we need


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    ELM327
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    But Rena are an ultra catholic group. Why do party’s who propose reform of the welfare system have to be catholic groups. It’s a separation of church and state that’s required not further integration in my opinion.
    That's the problem with the right wing.
    Too many socially conservative people


    We need a party that is right wing for fiscal policy but left for social issues.
    (And don't anyone try tell me FG are right wing....)


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    22michael44
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭22michael44


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    They’d have no influence on social policy. They are at odds with all other parties. Sure the gay marriage and eighth amendment, would hardly be overturned if they got in! But they would have a say on economic policy, which is what we need

    there's like, 3 people in Renua. they'd have as much say or influence as an independent crank TD. but you should ask yourself why they're the only ''party" that lines up with what you're looking for.


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    ELM327
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    22michael44 wrote: »
    there's like, 3 people in Renua. they'd have as much say or influence as an independent crank TD. but you should ask yourself why they're the only ''party" that lines up with what you're looking for.
    I'd say the auld pro life pro catholic leader of the party has a lot to do with it


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    #3020
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    ELM327 wrote: »
    That's the problem with the right wing.
    Too many socially conservative people


    We need a party that is right wing for fiscal policy but left for social issues.
    (And don't anyone try tell me FG are right wing....)
    Marginal tax rates of over 50% on a pittance of an income and supporting world class welfare. Increasing welfare rates at over triple the increase given to a worker on 30,000. Left of center ...


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    #3021
    PlaneSpeeking
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    But Rena are an ultra catholic group. Why do party’s who propose reform of the welfare system have to be catholic groups. It’s a separation of church and state that’s required not further integration in my opinion.

    I might be Catholic but Renua are too near the Iona mob for my liking.

    Whilst I agree with their economic ideas, the rest is too far away from my beliefs.

    Will there ever be a party that:

    Prioritises working people
    Limits benefits to subsistence level and not living the high life without working
    Limits immigration to skilled migrants needed - points system like Australia etc - whilst helping to keep refugees safe near their own countries so they can eventually return.
    Build houses - maybe not McMansions, but dwellings so that there is a roof over their heads and adequate facilities.


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    #3022
    Idbatterim
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    22michael44 wrote: »
    there's like, 3 people in Renua. they'd have as much say or influence as an independent crank TD. but you should ask yourself why they're the only ''party" that lines up with what you're looking for.
    because the others voter base is all these wasters. Fg are riding high, why would they change anything? Above all else though, they are too spineless in this country, to take an actual stand ...


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    #3023
    Trigger Happy
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    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    I might be Catholic but Renua are too near the Iona mob for my liking.

    Whilst I agree with their economic ideas, the rest is too far away from my beliefs.

    Will there ever be a party that:

    Prioritises working people
    Limits benefits to subsistence level and not living the high life without working
    Limits immigration to skilled migrants needed - points system like Australia etc - whilst helping to keep refugees safe near their own countries so they can eventually return.
    Build houses - maybe not McMansions, but dwellings so that there is a roof over their heads and adequate facilities.

    And build a big new prison, don’t forget that!


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    #3024
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    And build a big new prison, don’t forget that!

    Definitely! No more bloody suspended sentences for scum with 150 convictions.


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    #3025
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    I might be Catholic but Renua are too near the Iona mob for my liking.

    Whilst I agree with their economic ideas, the rest is too far away from my beliefs.

    Will there ever be a party that:

    Prioritises working people
    Limits benefits to subsistence level and not living the high life without working
    Limits immigration to skilled migrants needed - points system like Australia etc - whilst helping to keep refugees safe near their own countries so they can eventually return.
    Build houses - maybe not McMansions, but dwellings so that there is a roof over their heads and adequate facilities.
    Funny how every other government failure here is ignored. The red line is “social issues” laughable.


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    #3026
    zell12
    Registered Users Posts: 23,481 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Maybe another party then?
    - The National Party believes that the territory of Ireland consists of the whole island of Ireland, its islands and the territorial seas.
    - The National Party believes strongly in the principle of a Constitutional Republic, founded on individual personal freedoms, rights and responsibilities. We reject and resist a totalitarianism whose essence is found in the totality of State power and the exercise of State authority, and not the ideological direction of that totality.
    - The National Party believes that the State is the crucible and natural patrimony of the Nation. The State ought not, therefore, be the master of the Nation, but the Nation the master of the State. It follows that the State should act at all times and in every instance, in the interests of the Nation, embodied in one indivisible Irish people.
    - The National Party recognises the centripetal tendency of the bureaucratic State and its inevitable deleterious consequences in the quality and quantity of State level decision making. We therefore believe that a firm commitment to the principle and application of subsidiarity must be a central tenet of Government at every level.
    - The National Party approaches our membership of the European Union from the principle of refusing to accept the threatened destruction of our Nation’s freedom, and will endeavour to restore those freedoms which have already, unjustly, been given away.
    - The National Party believes in an aristocracy of achievement within a democracy of opportunity, practised and established economically by the strong advocacy of Free Productive Enterprise. Consequently we endorse the inalienable right to the ownership of Private Property, and shall defend that right against the equally dangerous encroachment of both State Socialism and Monopoly Capitalism.
    - The National Party opposes unrestricted immigration, placing above all the preservation of national identity and culture as the bedrock of a principled patriotism.
    - The National Party insists that no law should permit the provision of Abortion in Ireland.
    - The National Party demands a complete reform of our criminal justice system, placing the protection of society from criminality as its imperative value, up to and including restoration of the Death Penalty for particularly heinous crimes.


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    #3027
    Trigger Happy
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    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Definitely! No more bloody suspended sentences for scum with 150 convictions.

    I promised some lad my vote earlier in the thread. Will give him number 1 but you are looking good for number 2. Play your cards right and all that!


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    #3028
    22michael44
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭22michael44


    zell12 wrote: »
    Maybe another party then?

    omg it's perfect!


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    #3029
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Renua on immigration. Just posted recently. But your right, write them off based on the fact they will change NOTHING, on social issues. And you wonder why the establishment gets away with the **** it does? Lol

    https://www.facebook.com/614189535349194/posts/1446489748785831/


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    #3030
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    zell12 wrote: »
    Maybe another party then?

    Ok. To be honest I have a decent grasp of the English language but the list of principles on the website is quite hard to follow.
    Also point 8 states:
    “The National Party insists that no law should permit the provision of Abortion in Ireland.“
    So that’s a no for me.


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    #3031
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Renua on immigration. Just posted recently. But your right, write them off based on the fact they will change NOTHING, on social issues. And you wonder why the establishment gets away with the **** it does? Lol

    https://www.facebook.com/614189535349194/posts/1446489748785831/

    Oh god, people shilling for renua. I guess it's a comedy thread now.


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