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Freeman Megamerge

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  • #7152
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    What did Ben do to get sent down again?


  • #7153
    blueythebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    humberklog wrote: »
    I get the impression that she was expecting to get the court crowd to peg it over to Barrow Street. with her and gain some followers on the way after they heard her clarion shrill...doesn't look it's worked out that way.

    Good people those yellow vesters.. one of their group has been allegedly assaulted by the gardai and what do they do? Film him lying on the ground outside from inside the building, proclaiming it's a disgrace that it's taking so long for an ambulance.

    You could actually help your fellow yellow vester.


  • #7154
    blueythebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    Thargor wrote: »
    What did Ben do to get sent down again?

    He was challenging his original sentence. He failed again but did buy himself a week of freedom on bail.. delaying the inevitable but ultimately losing


  • #7155
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    I find it amazing that someone was assaulted and yet it happened at the exact time that none of these clowns were actually filming on their phones .... mmmhhh


  • #7156
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    blueythebear wrote: »
    He was challenging his original sentence. He failed again but did buy himself a week of freedom on bail.. delaying the inevitable but ultimately losing

    Let us not forget that he had filed legal papers into the courts that made extraordinary allegations against the legal profession, was forced to purge himself, found in contempt, pleaded guilty, was given a long time to be found suitable for Community Service, eventually found suitable for same,accepted this sentence, didn’t undertake any CS over 15 months and only after being hauled in for sentencing did he decide to fight his conviction with a judge on a basis of grammatical error on documents from a civil court hearing.

    Give a man enough rope...


  • #7157
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Barrett J's judgment has been published today.

    As ever, he provides a quick summary of the relevant law and then takes the points raised one by one. To say that he wasn't buying what Ben and Jerry were selling would be an understatement.


  • #7158
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    In news that will surprise no-one on this thread, a Bar Council survey has found that barristers have been threatened and intimidated by "organised lay litigants" and others.


  • #7159
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Robbo wrote: »
    In news that will surprise no-one on this thread, the Bar Council survey has found that barristers have been threatened and intimidated by "organised lay litigants" and others.

    In fairness, they are forewarning imminent prosecutions, one would imagine.


  • #7160
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    In news from across the water...
    https://www.wigantoday.net/news/crime/freeman-of-the-land-causes-chaos-in-wigan-court-1-9594633

    The superb understatement on the freeman of the land defence: "There is no recorded example of these tactics being successful in a UK court."


  • #7161
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    In news from across the water...
    https://www.wigantoday.net/news/crime/freeman-of-the-land-causes-chaos-in-wigan-court-1-9594633

    The superb understatement on the freeman of the land defence: "There is no recorded example of these tactics being successful in a UK court."

    Sounds familiar.

    He persistently failed to give straight answers when asked why he had not paid any of the fines, and also kept interrupting the chair of the bench and called the legal language “fictitious”.

    Frustrated by Graver’s lack of respect, the bench imposed a suspended 45-day prison term, which will hang over him until the entire £2,423.32 is repaid.


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  • #7162
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/who-are-the-protesters-picketing-ministers-homes-1.3796879?fbclid=IwAR2QjaKqQlWwJYzREezfJnQYzexD_579cCKfuYG9joCPSEHqnIYdxFnEgrs

    It would appear that one of the "battalion" referred to here has had links and dealings with our Ben.

    Funny how they are pro protests at somebody else's house but anti journalists calling over to their own houses.


  • #7163
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Have Gemma and Jerry now joined forces?


  • #7164
    GavMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭GavMan


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    Have Gemma and Jerry now joined forces?

    Apparently its all Brennan's Bread and Lyons Tea's fault Ireland is, apparently, in ****e


  • #7165
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    GavMan wrote: »
    Apparently its all Brennan's Bread and Lyons Tea's fault Ireland is, apparently, in ****e

    Ben of the family Brennan or the Family Pan?


  • #7166
    Grassey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    Ben of the half baked loaf


  • #7167
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/businesswoman-jailed-for-contempt-1.3816840

    Some chapter 1 Freeman stuff in here.


  • #7168
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/businesswoman-jailed-for-contempt-1.3816840

    Some chapter 1 Freeman stuff in here.

    All the classic hallmarks indeed.

    ''Ms Whitty stated in her letter the undertakings were given under duress, challenged the court’s jurisdiction and alleged she was intimidated and humiliated.''

    Not to mention, an ''eviction'' carried out.

    ''The initial proceedings were prompted after a Polish family living in one of the Cork properties, who had co-operated with the receivership, were evicted by Mr Dyer and two male associates in November 2016.''

    This family might do well to seek damages for such outrageous behaviour.


  • #7169
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Just thinking aloud. Can Ben add up the time done in the slammer for his real self, his straw man and his legal entity and claim that his three month sentence is now served?


  • #7170
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    Just thinking aloud. Can Ben add up the time done in the slammer for his real self, his straw man and his legal entity and claim that his three month sentence is now served?

    it wouldn't be the craziest thing he has claimed if he did.


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  • #7171
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Naturally, the non-Freemen in The Hub are calling this an absolute travesty:
    There ya go; if you live in Ireland, are prepared to fight for your rights and stand up for what you believe in, be very, very prepared to go to jail: Ireland will jail you if you stand up to them. REDACTED, Ben Gilroy, Brian McCarthy and many more.

    It is another sad day in Ireland…........ one of many.
    A further arrest in relation to the Strokestown incident. What's interesting for the point of this thread is the picture used showing a classic Magic Sign at the front of the property, as if it weren't well established that the Freemen had some part in all this.


  • #7172
    Markcheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Seems very "All property is theft... Except mine." .

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #7173
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Seems very "All property is theft... Except mine." .

    Except they tend not to speak about their own cases these days.


  • #7174
    Simple_Simone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Simple_Simone


    /Mod deletion/Honahan is at it again:- https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/judges-who-favour-banks-should-resign-honohan-37894860.html


  • #7175
    Credit Checker Moose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    Can he be removed from his role?


  • #7176
    Simple_Simone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Simple_Simone


    Credit Checker Moose wrote: »
    Can he be removed from his role?


    Don't know. But if he can, then he should be.

    His inanities in another case are reported in today's Sunday Times.

    "Nama wins appeal on case struck out by ‘irrational’ High Court master Edmund Honohan"

    (Story may be behind the paywall - so in essence:-

    Nama successfully appealed an “irrational” order made by the master of the High Court, striking out its application for a €19m judgment against a businessman. In January, Ed Honohan had struck out Nama’s attempt to get a judgement against the businessman John Brennan.

    In an affidavit filed with the High Court, Alan Quigley, Nama’s solicitor in the case, accuses Honohan of acting irrationally, inappropriately and outside his jurisdiction by arguing for one side in the case. Nama claims Honohan was “wrong in fact and in law”.)


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  • #7177
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Simple_Simone wrote: »
    Don't know. But if he can, then he should be.

    Nama’s solicitor in the case, accuses Honohan of acting irrationally, inappropriately and outside his jurisdiction by arguing for one side in the case. Nama claims Honohan was “wrong in fact and in law”.)

    This kind of irrational behaviour could cost a person their home in the long term.


  • #7178
    Squatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    And the clown does it again.
    "A senior judge has criticised a decision by the Master of the High Court Edmund Honohan to appoint an 82-year-old convicted criminal to represent the best interests of children in a legal dispute.

    High Court President Peter Kelly said having such a person in that position would be "grotesque" and "improper".

    Mr Justice Kelly made the comments as he set aside an order made by Mr Honohan in January appointing Michael Grimes as guardian ad-litem, or next friend, to three children whose parents have been embroiled in litigation with the Revenue Commissioners."


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/high-court-president-hits-out-at-honohan-for-grotesque-decision-37919707.html


    Surely it's well past time for the darkened room, bottle of whisky and loaded revolver solution?


  • #7179
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Squatter wrote: »
    And the clown does it again.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/high-court-president-hits-out-at-honohan-for-grotesque-decision-37919707.html

    Surely it's well past time for the darkened room, bottle of whisky and loaded revolver solution?

    Michael Grimes showed up on this thread a few years ago when he claimed to own McElhinney's of Athboy after receivers tried to take possession of the premises on foot of court order. He purportedly is a Dr., is known to run a colourful transport museum in Cork, has a conviction in relation to running a brother and has taken a few frivolous litigations again CIE and it's subsidiaries. Definitely a colourful character to say the least.


  • #7180
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    It’s no shock that Ed would be supporting people like him .. Ed’s fan base include most of the role of honour in the thread.

    Imagine their uproar if he went out for dinner with someone who worked in a bank instead of the lads who seem to spend their whole time ‘helping’ Business people who have defaulted on millions hold on to trophy houses.


  • #7181
    GavMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭GavMan


    You gotta ask the question. Whats in it for Honohan to encourage these loons? Would it be advantageous for him in someway if one of these chancers were to succeed in their endeavors?


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  • #7182
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    You're not the only one wondering Gavman........ What's he got going on.


  • #7183
    cml387
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭cml387


    I happened to be in Mullingar today and noticed a small garage in the town advertising that every 5 euro spent on getting your puncture fixed will go to The Hub.

    I won't name the place in case you all rush there to get your tyres repaired.


  • #7184
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Does Honohans job description extend to meeting with Ming in Brussels?

    https://twitter.com/lukeming/status/1108076431450370049


  • #7185
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Does Honohans job description extend to meeting with Ming in Brussels?

    https://twitter.com/lukeming/status/1108076431450370049


  • #7186
    Simple_Simone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Simple_Simone


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Does Honohans job description extend to meeting with Ming in Brussels?

    https://twitter.com/lukeming/status/1108076431450370049


    Nice one Ed! What'll be his next stunt, I wonder. Perhaps a cameo appearance in Fossett's Circus. I'll gladly buy him the red nose.


  • #7187
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Simple_Simone wrote: »
    Nice one Ed! What'll be his next stunt, I wonder. Perhaps a cameo appearance in Fossett's Circus. I'll gladly buy him the red nose.
    I'd love to know how he squares this quest for justice with adjourning 2 days worth of his lists for two weeks whilst he goes off on to tilt at windmills.


  • #7188
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Word is that Ben's house is for the chop on Monday.


  • #7189
    Chiorino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Chiorino


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    Word is that Ben's house is for the chop on Monday.

    Any idea when is he due for release? I trust he has employed suitable legal counsel in his absence?


  • #7190
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Chiorino wrote: »
    Any idea when is he due for release? I trust he has employed suitable legal counsel in his absence?

    I think he has 4 weeks left, although remission may see him out earlier.

    What we do know is that The Hub, fine and honest lay litigants that they are, are out looking for Solicitors that, in their words, are not afraid to take on the banks. For some reason they are professing that any solicitor who helps them will have exposure to loads of potential clients.

    Of course they are forgetting that these potential clients are all broke and presumably unable to pay for real solicitors. Then again, they forget to tell people a lot of things :rolleyes:.


  • #7191
    Markcheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Ah but if you come up with the right formula of magic words, then the banks cases all fall apart... And costs get warded against the banks.. So its win win

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • #7192
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Going to any of these lads for any sort of legal advise is akin to getting nutrition advise from an obese lad with PT after his Facebook handle


  • #7193
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    whippet wrote: »
    Going to any of these lads for any sort of legal advise is akin to getting nutrition advise from an obese lad with PT after his Facebook handle

    Leave my sideline out of it :pac:


  • #7194
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    Word is that Ben's house is for the chop on Monday.
    Robbo wrote: »
    This man was previously linked to disturbances at Limerick Court House which resulted in the daily list no longer being published on the internet.

    He's also been associated with either the promotion or running of a branch of The Hub in that part of the world. Here's a post detailing one of the conferences he spoke at early in 2018.

    If you want some light entertainment this morning, this Twitter thread contains videos of some of Ben's finest moments. I think the video of him screaming down the phone at a solicitor may be tied into his current predicament.
    Busy day for the lads if Ben's house is on the line again. Brian McCarthy was released on bail of €100 on Friday to appear in the High Court again today.


  • #7195
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Any word on how today went ? Apparently trim court house were selective in who was allowed in !


  • #7196
    blueythebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    whippet wrote: »
    Any word on how today went ? Apparently trim court house were selective in who was allowed in !

    I imagine it was adjourned... think it was in county registrars list so probably sent to the judges list for a hearing in a few months time


  • #7197
    Credit Checker Moose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    Also given the defendant is in custody.


  • #7198
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    blueythebear wrote: »
    I imagine it was adjourned... think it was in county registrars list so probably sent to the judges list for a hearing in a few months time

    Par for the course. Next stop Judges list.In a previous appearance he ''alleges Start sold on his mortgage within a short time of him taking out the loan.

    A barrister for the company told the court the documentation in the case showed no evidence for this.''

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/gilroy-accuses-sub-prime-lender-of-conspiracy-to-defraud-1.3424404


  • #7199
    blueythebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    Apparently ben gilroy was in this morning looking to appeal his jailing for contempt given that he failed fairly miserably on his habeus corpus application...wonder how he got on? I can guess...


  • #7200
    rameire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    blueythebear wrote: »
    Apparently ben gilroy was in this morning looking to appeal his jailing for contempt given that he failed fairly miserably on his habeus corpus application...wonder how he got on? I can guess...

    His case has been put back till the 3rd of May.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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  • #7201
    blueythebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    rameire wrote: »
    His case has been put back till the 3rd of May.

    He'll be out by then I imagine.


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