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Winter 2018/2019 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Defaulter1831


    The promising signs of a cold a snowy spell

    Ok I presume you mean the SSW.. The odds were always pretty much 50/50.

    We can have a cold spell without it. Many forecasters are predicting blocking in mid to late January.

    There are still as many signs for colder weather as there were a week ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    The promising signs of a cold a snowy spell

    There haven't been any promising signs... This has been undoubtedly the most boring winter of model watching I've ever experienced. We'll have to get at least a cool/below average spell eventually, not getting one would be near unprecedented I'd imagine. At this stage though its looking like mid January at the earliest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,230 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Flew home to Ireland today, was talking to several people who were in Zakopane in Poland and were stuck there/missed flights and struggled immensely to get to the airport. The Kraków and Katowice area got off rather mildly considering. (Still enough snow to practically shut down Ireland though)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    It's all beginning to unravel. Atlantic is just dying to take control again and I fear it will succeed

    There’s no Atlantic forecast anywhere. These no certainty of cold either as this high could stay around for weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just above freezing... shivers. West Mayo offshore

    LATER; a cold and inhospitable day for outdoor activities... A sneaky wind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,008 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Been a very mild winter after a long heatwave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭YanSno


    6z Gfs has LP racing across the North Atlantic around the middle of the month. Rain turning to sleet and snow scenarios.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    There’s no Atlantic forecast anywhere. These no certainty of cold either as this high could stay around for weeks.

    Models increasingly agreeing on a zonal +NAO 500 hPa pattern at our latitude, so that would mean a westerly flow of systems over or just to the north of us.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    a tiny bit of sunshine here this morning, very watery sun.

    the charts ahead is starting to show more of a cool Atlantic theme going into the middle of this month and possibly beyond. Doesn't look great for those wanting snow, there is a chance of a few brief glances of cold, perhaps topplers which could bring some wintry showers across western and northern areas, but nothing major as of yet.

    looking quite snowy at times across central and eastern Europe during January.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Good sunny spells in Dublin 13 so far this morning with some nice blue skies, for a change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Dull as ditch water again down the road
    JCX BXC wrote: »
    You realise it's the 5th of January right?

    Some of the stages that people go through here with model watching are akin to bereavement!

    Aye
    FI hasn't changed validity just because of a strat warm
    If anything it's got worse
    UK met were getting some flack for mentioning an albeit weak Atlantic spell late next week
    Yet it's appearing
    They seem to be solely basing their end of month and February cold spell on the strat and aren't budging,so let's see?
    They're the qualified experienced professional's


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    It's sunny, I can't believe it, must be a miracle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 boiledkitten


    I would have considered that they were professional as well, but that was before the whole Brexit farce.

    British MO looking as mad as the rest of the empire at the moment.😉

    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Dull as ditch water again down the road



    Aye
    FI hasn't changed validity just because of a strat warm
    If anything it's got worse
    UK met were getting some flack for mentioning an albeit weak Atlantic spell late next week
    Yet it's appearing
    They seem to be solely basing their end of month and February cold spell on the strat and aren't budging,so let's see?
    They're the qualified experienced professional's


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Artane2002 wrote: »
    It's sunny, I can't believe it, must be a miracle.

    Back to cloudy again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Was sunny for a while this morning but that didn't last long. Back to cloudy conditions again. The winter of never ending cloud so far anyway. The first half of this winter for some places at least must be near record for lack of sunshine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Billcarson wrote: »
    Was sunny for a while this morning but that didn't last long. Back to cloudy conditions again. The winter of never ending cloud so far anyway. The first half of this winter for some places at least must be near record for lack of sunshine.

    More stats to come sometime in the stats thread.
    sryanbruen wrote: »
    It's ironic how Cork Airport was the sunniest synoptic station in December 2018 with 35.2 hrs of sunshine whilst Belmullet was the dullest with 11.6 hrs of sunshine. The latter made it not only its dullest December on record (back to 1956) but also its dullest month on record beating the previous record of 15.0 hrs back in December 1993.

    Cork Airport's dullest Decembers:

    1. 1991 - 17.9 hrs
    2. 1977 - 19.8 hrs
    3. 1987 - 20.5 hrs
    4. 2015 - 24.3 hrs
    5. 1989 - 29.8 hrs

    Belmullet's dullest months:

    1. Dec 2018 - 11.6 hrs
    2. Dec 1993 - 15.0 hrs
    3. Dec 1974 - 15.8 hrs
    4. Jan 1981 - 16.7 hrs
    5. Dec 1999 - 17.7 hrs

    Data comes from Met Éireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Little snowy old me


    As a lay person my overall feedback from the recent posts on here is that the much discussed SW event will not result in a decent cold spell for Ireland. It appears most of January is going to continue as day after day of this cool cloudy calm weather. I'll drop in here around mid month to see what's happening but until then, no point. The weather is so boring for the next ten days at least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭icesnowfrost


    As a lay person my overall feedback from the recent posts on here is that the much discussed SW event will not result in a decent cold spell for Ireland. It appears most of January is going to continue as day after day of this cool cloudy calm weather. I'll drop in here around mid month to see what's happening but until then, no point. The weather is so boring for the next ten days at least.

    It’s still early days as to see the effects from the ssw and the early signs looks good, slow but going in the right direction. If the charts keep going the way they are I’d be very happy and excited for a decent cold snap and already there’s a chance for snowfall around the 14th to the 20th if the charts are correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Zero sun down here again.

    Just looking at waterfordcityweather and the solar radiation chart is on the floor! No wonder I'm feeling Nordic Noir.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    More stats to come sometime in the stats thread.

    Early days in the month yet but Cork Airport, or any other Cork station for that matter, must be on course for record low monthly sunshine hours.
    Is the Dec 1991 record low total amount that you previously posted the all time low or just for that month?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Early days in the month yet but Cork Airport, or any other Cork station for that matter, must be on course for record low monthly sunshine hours.

    Cork Airport's top 10 dullest months on record (not just December):

    1. Dec 1991; 17.9 hrs
    2. Dec 1977; 19.8 hrs
    3. Dec 1987; 20.5 hrs
    4. Feb 1985; 21.9 hrs
    5. Nov 1983; 23.9 hrs
    6. Jan 1992; 24.0 hrs
    7. Dec 2015; 24.3 hrs
    8. Nov 1968; 25.3 hrs
    9. Jan 1966; 26.5 hrs
    10. Jan 1968; 27.4 hrs

    In the past 27 days (Dec 10th to Jan 4th), Cork Airport has recorded 16.2 hrs of sunshine (including 19 dull days and 14 consecutive dull days up to January 4th) which is just below that of December 1991 as shown above.

    Data comes from Met Éireann.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    a real nip in the air this evening. feels much cooler than what it is, currently 7C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Whats going on in Carlow?

    20c at 5pm
    19c at 6pm

    Very strong warm sector!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Danno wrote: »
    Whats going on in Carlow?

    20c at 5pm
    19c at 6pm

    Very strong warm sector!!!

    believe its a faulty sensor I read on carlow weather twitter.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    believe its a faulty sensor I read on carlow weather twitter.

    Either that or the gates to hell have opened there.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Greece is having an incredibly cold winter. Parts of northern Greece are currently a crazy -16C. temps in many southern areas of Greece also subzero away from the coast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Greece is having an incredibly cold winter. Parts of northern Greece are currently a crazy -16C. temps in many southern areas of Greece also subzero away from the coast.

    We can write off this SSW so. Anytime Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt and North Africa etc get cold and snow we have a mild Winter. ;):D


  • Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Defaulter1831


    Calibos wrote: »
    We can write off this SSW so. Anytime Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt and North Africa etc get cold and snow we have a mild Winter. ;):D

    I've often felt that to be the case too.

    I might ask other posters, especially Sryan who is into stats, are there many examples of winters where there was intense cold is southern Europe etc early January and we still ended up with a significant cold spell before 1st March?

    I know Sryan you are studying for the LC so don't worry about replies, MT would be a stats expert also.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I generally remember cold south-eastern European winters to be mild winters here. These winters are more common than people realize. Parts of Greece sees heavy snow more regularly than some parts of Ireland.

    The island of Corfu received some snow fall over past few days too, a very rare event for that island.


  • Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Defaulter1831


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I generally remember cold south-eastern European winters to be mild winters here. These winters are more common than people realize. Parts of Greece sees heavy snow more regularly than some parts of Ireland.

    The island of Corfu received some snow fall over past few days too, a very rare event for that island.

    Agree Gonzo. Attached to the continent and all they need is a northerly/nort westerly/northeasterly/easterly to tap into extreme cold air.

    I always think of the Spartans with their babies out on cold mountain tops:D 2 Greeces, see more extremes than we ever do.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    -18C now in northern Greece, has to be a record!, meanwhile parts of western Ireland are 11C.

    Tonights -18C in Greece isn't even close to their cold temperature record which currently stands at −27.8 °C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    A rain-splashed night and squally west mayo offshore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Windy and raw is seen as better than mild and calm according to some here......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭DominoDub


    Wow the amount of SNOW the last few days around the Alps , Italy and Greece with more on the way.

    This twitter account is great for updates
    https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    Windy and raw is seen as better than mild and calm according to some here......

    Another really calm day in Dublin.
    Even a bit of sun.
    The calmest stretch of Winter weather I can remember for a long time
    The Winter that keeps on giving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Windy and raw is seen as better than mild and calm according to some here......

    I agree. Mild and calm much better if we are not due to be getting any snow and proper cold. Cold and wet from the W and NW can do one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭kod87


    Another miserable cloudy day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    There are no mountains any more, no land. Just dark thick cloud smothering all..... the rain that insists on dripping on your head at the door is an icy shock. It is beginning, this slow winter of ours , sliding towards ice. Tipping towards torrential deluges. It is beginning. West Mayo offshore island


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Windy and raw is seen as better than mild and calm according to some here......

    deep breath as we plunge towards wild winter. shivers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Groundhog day. Day after day the same thing. This Winter so far has been a weather enthusiasts nightmare. Although has been interesting following the development's in the strat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Lovely blue skies and sunshine in Limerick city today, getting nicer as the day goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭fineso.mom


    I never post here but read a lot. Just coming on to say this...West Limerick yet another lovely,mild,dry day.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    more drizzly muck here, feeling quite chilly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    The Winter that keeps on giving.


    Well the only thing it's giving me
    is depression lol. Thankfully things look at least more mobile next weekend, well around mid month anyway,something, anything to break out of this rut. Hopefully by the end of the month some proper winter weather.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    No change in weather conditions here. Cloudy dry and calm.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    I think the holes in the cloud are on a Rota system getting round to everyone briefly
    Today it's the turn of east wicklow


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Interesting reading such varying opinions on the current weather if nothing else!

    Not quite sure where I stand, on one hand the mildness and lack of wind and rain has been great but on the other hand the lack of sunshine is really getting to me. My house is fairly dark at the best of times so feels like living in perpetual twilight recently


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Windy and raw is seen as better than mild and calm according to some here......

    Jaysus, you do love to make shìt up for an oul moan.

    Anyway, in other news, the cherry blossoms in Stephen's Green are starting to bloom, which is pretty fecking early.

    5ORdf4I_d.jpg?maxwidth=1280&shape=thumb&fidelity=high


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Interesting reading such varying opinions on the current weather if nothing else!

    Not quite sure where I stand, on one hand the mildness and lack of wind and rain has been great but on the other hand the lack of sunshine is really getting to me. My house is fairly dark at the best of times so feels like living in perpetual twilight recently

    I'm in the same boat as you pretty much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭yellowlabrador


    the first daffodil is blooming, the crocus is out, and all the lawnmowers seem to beout. it's lovely weather, a bit overcast but warm


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