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Earning my go-faster stripes...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Now that is exactly how to run your first marathon. Fantastic pacing. Chuffed to bits for you. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Testosterscone


    Great run C held it together well in the closing stages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    A new role model! Was watching on the tracker, lovely sensible pacing there :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Congrats again, looking forward to this report :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Hobbyjogger


    Have only really just discovered the logs.. I've been missing out! I'm really looking forward to seeing what you do next and will be reading from now on :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Have only really just discovered the logs.. I've been missing out! I'm really looking forward to seeing what you do next and will be reading from now on :D

    Sure isn't it time you started a training log of your own too ;-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Sure isn't it time you started a training log of your own too ;-)

    We'll give you a minute to catch up on that page S :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Hobbyjogger


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Sure isn't it time you started a training log of your own too ;-)

    Done! Now to find yours..:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Now that is exactly how to run your first marathon. Fantastic pacing. Chuffed to bits for you. :)
    Great run C held it together well in the closing stages.
    A new role model! Was watching on the tracker, lovely sensible pacing there :)
    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Congrats again, looking forward to this report :)
    Thanks a million for the lovely words all of you! And very clever of you to get in with them before I post my giant thesis of a race report - you can save yourselves reading it now ;) :eek: :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Have only really just discovered the logs.. I've been missing out! I'm really looking forward to seeing what you do next and will be reading from now on :D
    Thanks a million C and right back at you!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    DCM 2018 Race Report

    I swear the thought of writing this report is worse than the thought of running the marathon itself! And similarly unnecessary, but sure here we are :D.

    It's long. I'm sorry :o

    Before the race
    My first marathon. Never thought I'd run one and never would have had I not somehow stumbled upon the race reports in the 2016 novices thread a day or two after the marathon that year. The fire was lit.
    Training had gone really well until the last few weeks, when I felt a bit sluggish but nothing serious. I covered practically all the runs on the plan, averaging 44 mpw before the taper, and peaked at 51 miles. Woke up with a cold/sore throat the day before the big day which was annoying timing but my fellow novices wisely advised I wouldn't feel it at all when I was running, and they were right.
    Woke up at 6 on the day itself, feeling surprisingly calm. S dropped me to the start area and I wandered through slowly. Too slowly as it turned out, because I got stuck in a queue for the toilets and missed the start of my wave! I had to run to the start line and was almost out of breath doing it, which didn't bode well but it was probably just nerves. Got there when there was hardly anyone still around so it was a quiet start in the end, zero congestion which I had thought wouldn't be possible.

    Race time!

    I had planned to start slowly and that's what I did. I'm sure the relative lack of other people around running made it easier, there was no huge crowd to get caught up in. I almost started to have the opposite problem - it felt a bit like being on a long run for the first 5 miles or so, and I struggled to shake that feeling and pick up the pace to where I wanted it. I think I was a bit afraid of expending any effort at all because I didn't know how much I'd need to hold onto for later. Despite that, it was ridiculously enjoyable running through the city centre, listening to the cheers and looking around at all the other runners.
    The mile splits threw me completely as my watch kept buzzing well in advance of the mile markers on the road. It didn't make sense but I figured I had make a mistake somewhere and nothing to be done about it now, if I was behind so be it but I wasn't going to try and make up time at this stage. Save that for later.
    Up through Stoneybatter and got some great encouragement here, then into the park where I knew S would be waiting to cheer at the first of our agreed spots for the day. Saw him and we high-fived, then around onto Chesterfield avenue and on we go. I think we were lucky with the (lack of) wind on Sunday but this stretch was fine.
    Miles 1 - 6: 9:28, 9:18, 9:45, 9:03, 9:38, 9:39 (10k - 59:22)

    Out of the park and into the beautiful madness that was Castleknock. It's something else. Thoroughly enjoying myself now. Just need to keep it slow until the high point and then relax. Got around and then onto the fun of the downhills, and back into the park. I loved this section, the peaceful nature of the park after the energy from the crowds outside, such a contrast but both so great.
    Left the park again and just focused on staying steady into and out of Chapelizod. Took it slowly up the hill on St Laurence's Rd but somehow the hill felt shorter than in my training runs and it was over in no time.
    Kilmainham was a real highlight for me, loved the energy of the crowds here. I had a massive grin on my face going through them. Passed a woman cheering who called my name (which was written on my number) and shouted at me to keep smiling all the way to the finish line. For whatever reason she gave me a huge boost and I thought of her comment several times later on and kept smiling.
    Miles 7 - 12: 9:26, 8:32, 8:33, 8:11, 9:07, 8:40

    Coming up to Dolphin's Barn and I knew I was going to see S and my family there, I started to get a bit emotional. I wanted to hug them all and really take it in but it was a bit of blur, I high-fived them all as I went past and managed to grab a banana from S as planned.
    I had a fear of the Crumlin Rd from trying to run up it at the end of a long run in training and getting worn out running into the wind, but it was fine on the day. Got to halfway about a minute behind my rough target, but I hadn't really been trying to stick to a target either. I told myself from the start I'd run without worrying about time as much as possible, so if I was a bit off so be it.
    Just after halfway I suddenly got a pain in my right leg, shooting up and down from my hip to my shin. It was hitting all the same areas as the pain that had me going to the physio the week before, when he had said there was nothing wrong. I figured it couldn't be serious and kept going, but hoped it wouldn't get worse.
    Around here I seemed to switch off a bit judging by my splits. I stopped looking at the watch at all for a few miles and I slowed down a bit, which I'm annoyed about in hindsight as I didn't need to, I just stopped paying attention. That lasted from past the halfway point up to hitting the downhill at Bushy Park.
    Miles 13 - 18: 8:44, 9:31, 9:01, 8:54, 8:54, 8:41

    After that I woke up and started to focus again as the course got more interesting heading out of Rathgar and a few little uphills and downhills around Milltown and Clonskeagh. Started to see more and more people walking from here on, and I kept passing people. Going under the 20 mile gantry was amazing as I really felt everything was going to be ok from here, 6.2 miles more didn't seem like too much and I was still feeling good, the leg was sore but nothing unmanageable.
    Got to Heartbreak Hill and over it. In a way the uphills were a relief actually as my right leg seemed to hurt less going uphill. The pain was there for most of the second half, but it never got worse and I knew as long as it didn't it wouldn't interfere too much.
    From mile 20 onwards the focus was just on staying steady. I knew S would be waiting for me on Nutley Lane and I had that to look forward to. Running up to the UCD flyover and a woman behind me answered her phone while she ran, and I could hear her congratulating someone on finishing sub 3:30. I turned around and gave her a thumbs up. We were on track for less than half an hour to go ourselves so.
    Turned onto Nutley Lane and saw S there and ran over to him. He said later he thought I was going in for a kiss and was going to headbutt him I have no idea what I was trying to do!
    Miles 19 - 24: 8:35, 8:51, 9:05, 9:16, 8:47, 8:22

    Onwards, not far to go now, just keep it up. I was aware of getting tired and wanting to get to the finish, but in a strange way at the same time it wasn't taking any more effort to keep going, and I actually sped up a little for the last 3 miles. Breathing was fine, and I think the tiredness was mental as much as anything - knowing you're nearly there so thoughts drift to the end.
    The last mile and a bit and I definitely wanted to be done, had to start using some of the tricks and keeping my head focused, keep working. Told myself not to fight it, it was always going to be hard at some point. Relax and keep moving. I was passing a lot of people at this stage and not slowing down, just wanted to get to the finish line. So many walkers here. Kept telling myself you're lucky, you're suffering a lot less than a lot of people.
    Somehow out of the blue on Northumberland Rd there was my Mum at the side, calling my name. I had no idea she was going to be there and I was over the moon to see her! It was the best feeling, at the hardest moment of the day.
    I ran on and suddenly there was the blue carpet up ahead and I ran for it, still had a bit of a kick left. The roar from the crowds at that moment was like nothing I've ever heard, I've no doubt it gave me an extra few seconds off my finishing time.
    Miles 25 - 26.2: 8:29, 8:32, 7:32 for 0.2 (0.33 on my watch)

    Crossed the line and stopped the watch, couldn't believe it. Done. I thought there'd be tears but strangely nothing like that, I was a bit dazed I think. Within seconds it was like my body went from fairly ok to completely in bits - stomach cramping, right leg buckled and I hobbled away from the finish feeling like a 90 year old but managed to keep walking. It was an incredible feeling getting the medal put around my neck.


    Chip time: 3:55:26
    First half: 1:59:57
    Second half: 1:55:29

    Roughly a 4min 30sec negative split which I think is what I'm proudest of. Not in a million years would that have happened if it hadn't been for the amount of generous advice from many posters on this forum about taking it slow over the first 10k and first half. I can only imagine how much I would have struggled through if it hadn't been for what I've learned here. Seriously indebted and grateful to the more experienced runners here who shared their knowledge. And very particularly to our amazing mentors ariana, Kellygirl and skyblue46. You guys are the best!!!

    I had a ball in McGrattan's. I've said before that none of my friends run so finally meeting other people who run (and talk about running!) was amazing! It was fantastic meeting the three mentors after all this time, and chatting to them as well as a bunch of fellow novices and veteran Boardsies. And it was hilarious being recognised by my runners a few times I guess that's what happens when you don't have your face on Strava :o
    It was an absolute pleasure talking to everyone I got to talk to there. I'm only sorry now I've discovered there were a whole load of other people there I didn't even know about!

    My only regret from the whole day is not meeting more of my fellow novices. I missed the meet up in the morning at the Shelbourne (well I got there late and couldn't figure out if any of the groups there was the right one), and I think a good few had left McGrattan's by the time I got there. So a reunion meetup/run wouldn't be out of order is all I'm saying... ;)

    Final thoughts (yep, still rambling...)
    I am blown away by the generosity of the supporters. It's phenomenal how encouraging they are to total strangers, and it makes such a difference. The kids were the absolute best - I think the high fives were my favourite part of the day. I'll be out cheering any year I'm not running from now on.

    I hadn't planned on following pacers but starting late meant I ran most of the race along and it would have been nice to have company at some stage, so next time I think I'd try and run with people for at least part of it.

    I was lucky not to have any major drama during the race. I'm aware that a lot of people, including many here who I follow closely, had a much harder time despite amazing training. and it's really hard that so much comes down to being lucky or unlucky with a few small things on the day itself that can have a massive impact.

    My main goal when I started this whole process was to finish a marathon wanting to do more of them. Sunday went better than I could ever have imagined, and yet I'm not dying to do it again. I'm not sure why. No doubt that'll change and I'll be signing up for everything I see soon, but right now I just want to run some more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Love this report!! You ran that marathon superbly, really well done! I have to admit I am incredibly jealous of your marathon time 😀

    Hadn't realized that leg pain had returned during it, you kept the head nicely.

    And it was lovely to meet you and your OH in McGrattan's, great running chats!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭El CabaIIo


    Brilliant stuff! Delighted to see you got what you deserved, your attitude and discipline towards the training and racing is spot on so no suprise about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    Brilliant stuff! Delighted to see you got what you deserved, your attitude and discipline towards the training and racing is spot on so no suprise about it.

    I agree...but is that a few times now that you have been a bit non plussed after races? Maybe you need tougher goals to aim for!! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    I sooooo got the wrong log with my deleted post, you done MASSIVELY well and no surprise really. Great to talk to you in McGrattans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. I just knew you'd have a great day. You're so quietly consistent and you'd put in a great training block. Fantastic result. Hope the leg is feeling better. Congratulations. You're a marathoner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Congrats once more. To get a 4 1/2 negative split in your first marathon takes some doing. It must have been an eerie feeling running on your own at the start, when all you were expecting beforehand was to be surrounded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Fantastic, well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    I've just read your report for the second time as i got interrupted earlier - what a super report and marathon debut - really brilliant. Well done, it's much deserved.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Wow - thats some race - running 9's & 9:30's at the start to 8.30's to finish with a 7.30. Superb race management - very well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    I'll keep saying it - big things ahead for you if you stay consistent!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    I swear the last few days just trying to keep up with reading everyone's reports have been more intense and demanding than marathon training :P

    Thanks so much for the lovely comments here, it means a huge amount!
    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Love this report!! You ran that marathon superbly, really well done! I have to admit I am incredibly jealous of your marathon time ��

    Hadn't realized that leg pain had returned during it, you kept the head nicely.

    And it was lovely to meet you and your OH in McGrattan's, great running chats!
    Thanks V! I'm super jealous of a whole bunch of your other times so it's mutual :pac: It was great meeting you too.
    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    Brilliant stuff! Delighted to see you got what you deserved, your attitude and discipline towards the training and racing is spot on so no suprise about it.
    Ah thank you! Sure I enjoyed the training so that makes it easy, but I was lucky on the day that nothing went wrong. Appreciate the encouragement :)
    skyblue46 wrote: »
    I agree...but is that a few times now that you have been a bit non plussed after races? Maybe you need tougher goals to aim for!! :pac:
    Ha, this was definitely tough enough this time around! Ah I don't know, DCM went better than I ever dreamed it would so I'm definitely happy with the result. But in a weird way I was prouder of completing the first 20 mile training run. I don't know, I'm just being weird... :P
    OOnegative wrote: »
    I sooooo got the wrong log with my deleted post, you done MASSIVELY well and no surprise really. Great to talk to you in McGrattans.
    Lol I figured that when I saw your original comment! Thanks a million B, really enjoyed meeting you after :)
    Huzzah! wrote: »
    Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. I just knew you'd have a great day. You're so quietly consistent and you'd put in a great training block. Fantastic result. Hope the leg is feeling better. Congratulations. You're a marathoner.
    Thank you!! We both are :) It's a nice feeling alright. Even nicer being able to think about all sorts of other plans now :D Leg is better but I have a weird foot thing now, maybe my foot is trying to copy yours :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    aquinn wrote: »
    Fantastic, well done.
    Thanks A! I'm extremely envious of your speediness so I'll have to keep working ;) Hope you've recovered from the trek around the city on Sunday.
    ariana` wrote: »
    I've just read your report for the second time as i got interrupted earlier - what a super report and marathon debut - really brilliant. Well done, it's much deserved.
    Thanks E. I'm so grateful to you for all your advice, encouragement and kindness along the way.
    Wow - thats some race - running 9's & 9:30's at the start to 8.30's to finish with a 7.30. Superb race management - very well done.
    Thank you! All thanks to the wisdom of boards :D
    I'll keep saying it - big things ahead for you if you stay consistent!
    Ha, thanks P! Don't think I'll be setting the world on fire somehow but I plan to stay consistent alright. Your back was pointed out to me briefly in McGrattan's but when I turned around again you were gone, so never got to say hi! Sounds like you had a strenuous enough day yourself :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Terrific debut - very significant achievement. Congrats!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Pomplamousse


    Very well done eyrie, what a fantastic first marathon, you should be really proud. I'm not one bit surprised at that result :) Looking forward to reading about all the PBs you're bound to get in shorter distances over the next few weeks and months:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Hobbyjogger


    Your race report sounds very familiar! We had such a similar experience and time :P As described before, your training was so consistent, I'm delighted it went so well for you.
    eyrie wrote: »

    My only regret from the whole day is not meeting more of my fellow novices. I missed the meet up in the morning at the Shelbourne (well I got there late and couldn't figure out if any of the groups there was the right one), and I think a good few had left McGrattan's by the time I got there. So a reunion meetup/run wouldn't be out of order is all I'm saying... ;)

    Here, here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Brilliant race report - sounds like you had a fantastic first marathon! Well done to you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Absolutely superb debut performance. A dream marathon well deserved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    Brilliant first marathon ! Sounds like a great experience - well done you !


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    I've just spent a very productive afternoon in working reading this log from the start. It's a great read. I really admire your consistency, dedication, focus and patience (I've no idea how you stuck with the HADD training for so long). You got the marathon result that your training deserved, and I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    I'm on catch up. Lovely read. Onwards and upwards :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭gypsylee


    Just catching up on your log now. Wow, well done. What a fantastic race you had. Delighted it went so well for you.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Somehow missed this log / race report in amongst all the others but seriously well done, brilliant performance on the day! Totally agree with on the supporters as well. I'm hooked now so any year I'm not running it, I'll definitely make an effort to get out to support.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Thanks so much everyone! Means a lot :)
    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    I've just spent a very productive afternoon in working reading this log from the start. It's a great read. I really admire your consistency, dedication, focus and patience (I've no idea how you stuck with the HADD training for so long). You got the marathon result that your training deserved, and I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next.

    Ahhh thank you! That is a lovely comment. And I won't tell you how many logs I've done that with... :eek: At least I've gotten in at the start with yours ;)
    Would you think I was nuts if I said I was considering another round of HADD training?? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    The marathon is starting to feel a bit further away now and normality should probably resume (I mean I keep hoping someone will start cheering me along on my walk to work, but for some reason it hasn't happened yet, what gives :confused:)


    So after feeling fairly decent (relatively speaking) after the marathon itself, I was a bit thrown when after a few hours in McGrattan's I left and within minutes was limping badly. Shuffled down the road to get food but ended up having to get a taxi home from there, I couldn't walk.

    The pain was on the inside of my right ankle, and was really sensitive to bearing weight but no swelling or bruising whatsoever, so presumably not a sprain or anything. Strange...

    It came and went the next day, and over the next few days. 10 days later and it's not painful anymore besides the odd twinge (hasn't been for several days) but it still feels odd so I've been slow to start doing much running. Two very short jogs so far is all I've attempted, and the foot felt fine during both but slightly sore again afterwards, particularly after the first. I'm dying to get back into regular running, even just easy stuff, but I'll take it slowly for the moment.

    Side note: it's been great reading everyone's marathon reports, and particular seeing how much all of us novices are keen to keep running. I had a sense from some previous years that a lot of people complete the marathon and then that's that, whereas our group all seems mad to get going again!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    The niggly feelings in my leg (plus the nagging feeling in my head that something wasn't fully right) haven't gone away and it was time to finally face it and go to the physio, which I did this morning. After going through the usual tests his verdict was both better and worse than expected. Better, in that there's nothing major wrong, just the normal enough toll of a first marathon on the body. But worse in that he told me to stay away from proper training for 6 weeks. SIX. Ugh. I'm gutted, and I also know completely that it's not a big deal and I have no business moaning. So enough of that, and time to get on with it.

    I've been told to keep up the frequency of training but spread it around other things, so bike, swimming etc, and the odd short easy run is ok. After 3-4 weeks I can start harder efforts (not running but spin and stuff - the horrors!)

    Feels like a bit of a crap way to finish out the year, but the main thing is that it has been an amazing year and it would be both sad and very ignorant to focus on the one negative when everything I wanted to do in terms of running this year worked out for me. Not many people are that lucky, and I won't expect to be again.

    So I don't know if I'll be doing much worth logging here, but I'll probably be on incessantly with questions about how the hell to cross train...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    eyrie wrote: »
    The niggly feelings in my leg (plus the nagging feeling in my head that something wasn't fully right) haven't gone away and it was time to finally face it and go to the physio, which I did this morning. After going through the usual tests his verdict was both better and worse than expected. Better, in that there's nothing major wrong, just the normal enough toll of a first marathon on the body. But told me to stay away from proper training for 6 weeks. SIX. Ugh. I'm gutted, and I also know completely that it's not a big deal and I have no business moaning. So enough of that, and time to get on with it.

    I've been told to keep up the frequency of training but spread it around other things, so bike, swimming etc, and the odd short easy run is ok. After 3-4 weeks I can start harder efforts (not running but spin and stuff - the horrors!)

    Feels like a bit of a crap way to finish out the year, but the main thing is that it has been an amazing year and it would be both sad and very ignorant to focus on the one negative when everything I wanted to do in terms of running this year worked out for me. Not many people are that lucky, and I won't expect to be again.

    So I don't know if I'll be doing much worth logging here, but I'll probably be on incessantly with questions about how the hell to cross train...

    Bummer! But what is it that's wrong? Is there a diagnosis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Oh that’s frustrating.

    Have you access to a pool with a deep end? Pool Running is great. You just need a belt that the pool might possibly have to lend you but approx €30 otherwise I believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    That IS annoying, but good for you for being so sensible. I'm not sure too many would listen to that advice..myself included!
    Hopefully you can find some cross training you enjoy!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Bummer! But what is it that's wrong? Is there a diagnosis?
    Nah just that my right leg is a bit mashed - damage to the calf, quad, and glute/hip. The massage was excruciating! He didn't seem at all alarmed but said the muscles etc need to recover, so while I should definitely still be training I need to mix it up and give my body a bit of variety. Which is a pity, because running is the only training I like! Besides strength stuff, which he also told me to avoid for the time being. Easy efforts only!
    Actually he suggested hiking too, which I love, so might try and fit in a bit of that.

    How's your foot?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Yeah actually now that I think about it, I felt all wrong after Limerick and the physio just told me keep running but not by a plan, to just enjoy myself doing the hobby I love... If there's nothing actually wrong physically, might be worth thinking about that in a couple of weeks if you can't bear to stay away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Kellygirl wrote: »
    Oh that’s frustrating.

    Have you access to a pool with a deep end? Pool Running is great. You just need a belt that the pool might possibly have to lend you but approx €30 otherwise I believe.
    I'll look into that, thanks K! You mentioned it before but I don't really know what it is so I'll check it out now. I haven't gone swimming (aside from on holidays) in ages so kind of like the thought of that too actually.
    ReeReeG wrote: »
    That IS annoying, but good for you for being so sensible. I'm not sure too many would listen to that advice..myself included!
    Hopefully you can find some cross training you enjoy!
    We'll see how long I last! Although the fear of doing anything that would have me off even longer will probably keep me fairly obedient I'd say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    That sucks. At least a bit of cross-training will stand you long-term I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    eyrie wrote: »
    Nah just that my right leg is a bit mashed - damage to the calf, quad, and glute/hip. The massage was excruciating! He didn't seem at all alarmed but said the muscles etc need to recover, so while I should definitely still be training I need to mix it up and give my body a bit of variety. Which is a pity, because running is the only training I like! Besides strength stuff, which he also told me to avoid for the time being. Easy efforts only!
    Actually he suggested hiking too, which I love, so might try and fit in a bit of that.

    How's your foot?

    Ah my foot just feels weird...I haven't run this week but I will get out for a couple of recovery runs at the weekend. It's a lot better.

    As for you....I dunno...I have seen two types of physio in my time, those who want you to continue your sport (as in a team physio) and those who are overly conservative for fear of getting a bad Facebook review! I'd be looking for something more specific before stopping running tbh. There may be a specific reason in your case but a mashed leg wouldn't be enough! Haha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭El CabaIIo


    I remember lying down on the physio table about a week after my first proper marathon and the physio started going "look at that" pointing at hamstrings. I couldn't see them because I was still buckled so he goes "your legs are still running". The muscles in my hamstrings were still contracting at rest.

    The marathon does a lot of damage to your body, I'd go as far as saying the act of running 26.2 miles as fast as you can is unhealthy. The training is good for you but the race itself isn't so you do some fairly significant damage. Usually, I wouldn't go against physio's but if there's no injury damage, I'd say take that 6 weeks with a grain of salt as you'll know yourself when you start feeling better. Get on the foam roller, do a few no pressure runs as slowly as you can imagine and keep an eye on some good eating along with epsom salt baths. You might be fully right in a week and half or maybe 3 weeks but you'll know better than anyone else will when you are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    I remember lying down on the physio table about a week after my first proper marathon and the physio started going "look at that" pointing at hamstrings. I couldn't see them because I was still buckled so he goes "your legs are still running". The muscles in my hamstrings were still contracting at rest.

    The marathon does a lot of damage to your body, I'd go as far as saying the act of running 26.2 miles as fast as you can is unhealthy. The training is good for you but the race itself isn't so you do some fairly significant damage. Usually, I wouldn't go against physio's but if there's no injury damage, I'd say take that 6 weeks with a grain of salt as you'll know yourself when you start feeling better. Get on the foam roller, do a few no pressure runs as slowly as you can imagine and keep an eye on some good eating along with epsom salt baths. You might be fully right in a week and half or maybe 3 weeks but you'll know better than anyone else will when you are.

    He said it better!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Ah my foot just feels weird...I haven't run this week but I will get out for a couple of recovery runs at the weekend. It's a lot better.

    As for you....I dunno...I have seen two types of physio in my time, those who want you to continue your sport (as in a team physio) and those who are overly conservative for fear of getting a bad Facebook review! I'd be looking for something more specific before stopping running tbh. There may be a specific reason in your case but a mashed leg wouldn't be enough! Haha.
    That wasn't exactly his term for it in fairness :P I know what you're saying, but this guy is definitely in the former camp. He was adamant that I keep exercising.
    But I do think there was a bit of the fact that a few weeks recovery means then it's Christmas anyway, so why not just take it easy and be ready to start back properly in January, which I think may be excessive.
    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    The marathon does a lot of damage to your body, I'd go as far as saying the act of running 26.2 miles as fast as you can is unhealthy. The training is good for you but the race itself isn't so you do some fairly significant damage. Usually, I wouldn't go against physio's but if there's no injury damage, I'd say take that 6 weeks with a grain of salt as you'll know yourself when you start feeling better. Get on the foam roller, do a few no pressure runs as slowly as you can imagine and keep an eye on some good eating along with epsom salt baths. You might be fully right in a week and half or maybe 3 weeks but you'll know better than anyone else will when you are.
    Yep, true. My thinking is it's no harm to follow his advice at the moment, and if it works wonders in a couple of weeks and my leg feels great again then brilliant. I won't be sitting around for no reason if I'm feeling 100% again. For now though I know myself I need a bit longer before I get stuck back in fully, which I guess is why I went to see him. So I'll just see how it goes and pay attention. And I'll certainly be hoping for sooner rather than later.
    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    I remember lying down on the physio table about a week after my first proper marathon and the physio started going "look at that" pointing at hamstrings. I couldn't see them because I was still buckled so he goes "your legs are still running". The muscles in my hamstrings were still contracting at rest.
    :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Argghhhhhh, sorry to hear that! If it's the same physio you went to with your taper madness before DCM, at least you can trust that he wouldn't advise no running unless he really thought it was necessary. I'd take El C's advice on board, though, and definitely see how you are after a few weeks of cross training.

    I'm really surprised by how much the marathon took out of me. I thought once the DOMs went, I was back to normal but I definitely wasn't.

    I've no idea what to advise for cross training. Sportsco, if you're near there, were doing an offer where you could join for a month. Not sure if it's still available but you could always phone and see. Would yoga be allowed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    I'm sorry to hear you're not feeling back to yourself yet. If it's any consolation you're not alone :cool: You've already got brilliant advice, i can't add to it. I hope you find something you enjoy doing, variety is a spice of life 'n' all that. If nothing else at least you're in Dublin - I'm sure there's lots of options. Hopefully you'll be back sooner than you think too x


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Huzzah! wrote: »
    ...with your taper madness before DCM...
    :P (and yes, same one!)
    Huzzah! wrote: »
    I'm really surprised by how much the marathon took out of me. I thought once the DOMs went, I was back to normal but I definitely wasn't.

    I've no idea what to advise for cross training. Sportsco, if you're near there, were doing an offer where you could join for a month. Not sure if it's still available but you could always phone and see. Would yoga be allowed?
    That's it really - I guess I thought it couldn't be that much worse than the 20 mile training runs, but clearly it leaves more of a mark. Sure I felt great halfway through the day after the marathon and thought I was ready to get right back to it all! :o Yoga will definitely be a big part of it, yes. I have a gym at work so I just better figure out how to use things :rolleyes:
    ariana` wrote: »
    I'm sorry to hear you're not feeling back to yourself yet. If it's any consolation you're not alone :cool: You've already got brilliant advice, i can't add to it. I hope you find something you enjoy doing, variety is a spice of life 'n' all that. If nothing else at least you're in Dublin - I'm sure there's lots of options. Hopefully you'll be back sooner than you think too x
    Thanks E. I was just having a whinge, it's not the end of the world at all. Sorry to hear you're still feeling a bit off too - is it just generally not being fully recovered or anything specific bothering you? Hope it's nothing major x


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