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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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    #7682
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,320 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    No sympathy for Milo or any of the followers who enabled this car crash.


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    #7683
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,459 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Yiannopoulos' screed is very amusing: it's almost like "owning the libs" isn't much of a viable political or financial career - at least not to the extent that it might bed him in with the GOP. It's not like the so-called "Culture Wars" are over, but with the passing of Trump one does hope it drags it away from the spotlight by dint of the President being Troll in Chief; and with it, you'd hope the Yiannopouloses of this world quickly follow into obscurity.

    To be fair, the idea of the modern commentariat didn't emerge until 9/11 when people were hungering for news 24/7. In the absence of news to report, we got commentors offering opinions though I gather that this may have been the case in the US beforehand and as a cultural norm it just grew afterwards.

    I'd say it'll find something else to latch onto. In the UK we have Laurence Fox and Nigel Farage starting "Reclaim" & "Reform" parties. I can't see them getting far but it's a sign of things to come.

    I think that Trump's presidency has shown that as bad and corrupt as some "career politicians" can be, they're still preferable to those who peddle easy answers and seek to justify hatred.
    kowloon wrote: »
    No sympathy for Milo or any of the followers who enabled this car crash.

    None here either. I'm amazed that he's still at this to be honest but then, much of modern culture seems to involving exhuming artefacts from years ago and parading them around.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #7684
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    To be fair, the idea of the modern commentariat didn't emerge until 9/11 when people were hungering for news 24/7. In the absence of news to report, we got commentors offering opinions though I gather that this may have been the case in the US beforehand and as a cultural norm it just grew afterwards.

    I'd say it'll find something else to latch onto. In the UK we have Laurence Fox and Nigel Farage starting "Reclaim" & "Reform" parties. I can't see them getting far but it's a sign of things to come.

    I think that Trump's presidency has shown that as bad and corrupt as some "career politicians" can be, they're still preferable to those who peddle easy answers and seek to justify hatred.



    None here either. I'm amazed that he's still at this to be honest but then, much of modern culture seems to involving exhuming artefacts from years ago and parading them around.

    It's just another scam to gain profile and money.

    The "Conservatives" have proven themselves to be far easier to scam over the last few years so the Right is inundated with a multitude of scam artists and grifters trying to carve out a little slice of the pie for themselves

    Milo sees a group of people frustrated and angry about how the GOP have "screwed them" so he is now attempting to grift off them.

    "Read my Blog" , "Watch my Videos" , but above all - remember to CLICK THOSE LINKS!!!

    It's not actual anger or actual opinion - It's a scam , just like every single last one of them.


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    #7685
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Didn't Milo more or less get cancelled over some dodgy comments about pederasty and child abuse? Surprised to see him resurface.


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    #7686
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Now there's a blast from the past!

    Yiannopoulos' whole routine was to cater to people who were happy to vote for an individual running on the ticket of the party who have been pushing them as far into penury as they can. Why on earth was he surprised when none of them bothered to put their hands in their pockets for him when they won't even vote for their own economic interests? There are many things I would describe him as but stupid is not one of them.
    Grifter pivots further right to where the lowest hanging of all the fruit lies.

    Mystery solved, you're welcome. :)


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    #7687
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Brussels Sprout wrote: »
    Didn't Milo more or less get cancelled over some dodgy comments about pederasty and child abuse? Surprised to see him resurface.

    Yeah, it was supporting pedophilia that saw him go from the "golden token gay person" of the alt right, to someone they just cheer on when they think nobody is looking.

    The QAnon crowd will welcome him with open arms, as they tend to when it comes to suspected and accused pedophiles, as well as those supportive of it.


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    #7688
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    It's just another scam to gain profile and money.

    The "Conservatives" have proven themselves to be far easier to scam over the last few years so the Right is inundated with a multitude of scam artists and grifters trying to carve out a little slice of the pie for themselves

    Milo sees a group of people frustrated and angry about how the GOP have "screwed them" so he is now attempting to grift off them.

    "Read my Blog" , "Watch my Videos" , but above all - remember to CLICK THOSE LINKS!!!

    It's not actual anger or actual opinion - It's a scam , just like every single last one of them.

    The conservatives and the republicans in general just seem to make themselves look the American equivalent of the DUP on this side of the Atlantic.
    Supporting Trump was the equivalent of the DUP pushing for Brexit only to find it rebound. Watching some of the youtube videos of republicans is like watching Sammy Wilson in action.

    I wouldn't be surprised if their carry-on causes them to lose the senate seats in Georgia.


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    #7689
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    To be fair, the idea of the modern commentariat didn't emerge until 9/11 when people were hungering for news 24/7. In the absence of news to report, we got commentors offering opinions though I gather that this may have been the case in the US beforehand and as a cultural norm it just grew afterwards.

    I'd say it'll find something else to latch onto. In the UK we have Laurence Fox and Nigel Farage starting "Reclaim" & "Reform" parties. I can't see them getting far but it's a sign of things to come.

    I think that Trump's presidency has shown that as bad and corrupt as some "career politicians" can be, they're still preferable to those who peddle easy answers and seek to justify hatred.



    None here either. I'm amazed that he's still at this to be honest but then, much of modern culture seems to involving exhuming artefacts from years ago and parading them around.

    It's like a poor little me statement, that he was conned by Trump into the Breitbart promotion of Trump, and bore no responsibility with what was done by Trump in power as president. A "I was a victim too" trying to get back in vogue in society [as it were] to get back on invitation lists.


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    #7690
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    Brussels Sprout wrote: »
    Didn't Milo more or less get cancelled over some dodgy comments about pederasty and child abuse? Surprised to see him resurface.

    It's the dying embers of 2020, he needs to emerge before this year is out.


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    #7691
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,459 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    aloyisious wrote: »
    It's like a poor little me statement, that he was conned by Trump into the Breitbart promotion of Trump, and bore no responsibility with what was done by Trump in power as president. A "I was a victim too" trying to get back in vogue in society [as it were] to get back on invitation lists.

    Right wingers acting the victim is like pouring a cup of water into the Atlantic. I only notice when they don't do it at this stage.

    The problem with being on the extreme of the political spectrum is that the second you fail an ideological purity test in the absence of a galvanising force, you're done. The far right has been stagnating a bit fairly recently so the impetus for the extremists to remain united has been relatively lacking.

    Yiannopoulos has boasted about being at parties with "very young boys". My capacity to sympathise with him evaporated a long time ago.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #7692
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Right wingers acting the victim is like pouring a cup of water into the Atlantic. I only notice when they don't do it at this stage.

    The problem with being on the extreme of the political spectrum is that the second you fail an ideological purity test in the absence of a galvanising force, you're done. The far right has been stagnating a bit fairly recently so the impetus for the extremists to remain united has been relatively lacking.

    Yiannopoulos has boasted about being at parties with "very young boys". My capacity to sympathise with him evaporated a long time ago.

    Thankfully there is no Strom Thurmond or similar around for camp followers to admire. I'd be happy if they continue to gut themselves like the admired gang from the European 30's.

    That comment by him put him outside the LGBT community as far as I'm concerned. It'd be somewhat along the lines certain [living] people are currently in custody under investigation for.


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    #7693
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Of all the blows so far, Putin congratulating Biden on his win must sting the worst for poor Don.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #7694
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Of all the blows so far, Putin congratulating Biden on his win must sting the worst for poor Don.

    Followed, some hours later, by Mitch. Joe Scarborough is probably rolling in the aisles at the coincidence.


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    #7695
    amandstu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭amandstu


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Of all the blows so far, Putin congratulating Biden on his win must sting the worst for poor Don.
    That's it .Make him Special Envoy to the Russian Federation

    Who knows he may be able to glean some counter-espionage secrets from them on the sly.


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    #7696
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Trump is really fizzling out...... anyone miss the glory days when he was going nuts on a daily basis ???


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    #7697
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    googling "trump twitter" no longer brings up his main twitter account.


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    #7698
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    froog wrote: »
    googling "trump twitter" no longer brings up his main twitter account.

    It’s like back to the future, he is fading away until the point where he no longer ever existed.....


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    #7699
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    It’s like back to the future, he is fading away until the point where he no longer ever existed.....

    An apt comparison considering he is a ringer for old Biff


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    #7700
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Seems some-one "leaked" to the media that Mitch McConnell had a tele-conference with his fellow GOP senators and told them not to mess around with the electoral college vote result in the senate, to leave the result alone. After his congratulatory call to Joe, there'd be no prizes for guessing who the media source could be.


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    #7701
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,035 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Seems that the #IMPOTUS might not be able to relo to Mar-a-Laggard after all; he'd previously agreed not to. Of course, he'll lawyer up. Maybe Rudi can fart his way through this one for him:

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/955473/trumps-maralago-neighbors-dont-want-move-there-may-able-stop


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    #7702
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Seems that the #IMPOTUS might not be able to relo to Mar-a-Laggard after all; he'd previously agreed not to. Of course, he'll lawyer up. Maybe Rudi can fart his way through this one for him:

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/955473/trumps-maralago-neighbors-dont-want-move-there-may-able-stop
    Ah yes... the art of the deal!


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    #7703
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭circadian


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Seems that the #IMPOTUS might not be able to relo to Mar-a-Laggard after all; he'd previously agreed not to. Of course, he'll lawyer up. Maybe Rudi can fart his way through this one for him:

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/955473/trumps-maralago-neighbors-dont-want-move-there-may-able-stop


    I still reckon he's a flight risk considering the ongoing cases by the State of New York. He certainly won't be going near Trump Tower after leaving the Whitehouse.


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    #7704
    dogbert27
    Registered Users Posts: 4,915 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    circadian wrote: »
    I still reckon he's a flight risk considering the ongoing cases by the State of New York. He certainly won't be going near Trump Tower after leaving the Whitehouse.

    I think you're right and he's intimated this already

    https://www.nbc12.com/2020/10/19/trump-suggests-hell-leave-country-if-he-loses-biden/

    “Running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me,” he said.

    “Could you imagine if I lose? My whole life, what am I going to do? I’m going to say, ‘I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics.’ I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country?"

    While presenting it as a joke there's always a grain of truth


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    #7705
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Seems that the #IMPOTUS might not be able to relo to Mar-a-Laggard after all; he'd previously agreed not to. Of course, he'll lawyer up. Maybe Rudi can fart his way through this one for him:

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/955473/trumps-maralago-neighbors-dont-want-move-there-may-able-stop

    An Interesting viewpoint here on why Trump and now Ivanka & Jared are so keen to move to Florida and declare their houses there as their "official" residences
    Florida is a great place to move to if you are a retiree or a criminal. As well as sun, sea and sand, it boasts a number of laws that may appeal to someone desperate to keep their hands on their money. These include something called a “homestead exemption”, which protects a Florida resident’s primary home (of unlimited value) from being seized by creditors.

    Back in 2008, for example, Bernie Madoff’s wife suddenly switched her primary residence from New York to Florida and applied for a homestead exemption to protect her $9.4m home. Weirdly, she applied for this exemption just a few months before Madoff pleaded guilty to running a massive Ponzi scheme.

    So , if he gets to declare Mar-a-Lago as his "Home" his creditors can't touch it...


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    #7706
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    An Interesting viewpoint here on why Trump and now Ivanka & Jared are so keen to move to Florida and declare their houses there as their "official" residences



    So , if he gets to declare Mar-a-Lago as his "Home" his creditors can't touch it...


    Theres no way the IRS will let him away with declaring it as a residence


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    #7707
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Theres no way the IRS will let him away with declaring it as a residence

    Probably right , but that won't stop him trying and tying things up in the courts for years..


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    #7708
    26000 Elephants
    Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    Quin_Dub wrote: »

    So , if he gets to declare Mar-a-Lago as his "Home" his creditors can't touch it...

    But the Newsweek article cites the agreement that specifically precludes him from using it as a residence.

    Mind you - that doesn't stop him from declaring a different property his residence, but without the asset protection.


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    #7709
    dogbert27
    Registered Users Posts: 4,915 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    An Interesting viewpoint here on why Trump and now Ivanka & Jared are so keen to move to Florida and declare their houses there as their "official" residences



    So , if he gets to declare Mar-a-Lago as his "Home" his creditors can't touch it...

    In the article though it says that he can't use it as a residence and a club.

    Is he going to give up the money making club to live in a high expense estate? I doubt it.


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    #7710
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    26000 Elephants wrote: »
    But the Newsweek article cites the agreement that specifically precludes him from using it as a residence.

    Mind you - that doesn't stop him from declaring a different property his residence, but without the asset protection.

    Oh absolutely - That's going to be the battle.

    He'd like to move permanently to live there , maybe because he just likes it or perhaps because of this "Homestead exemption" but he will have to overcome the deal he made 30 odd years ago when he first took over Mar-a-Lago.


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    #7711
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,923 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    dogbert27 wrote: »
    I think you're right and he's intimated this already

    https://www.nbc12.com/2020/10/19/trump-suggests-hell-leave-country-if-he-loses-biden/

    “Running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me,” he said.

    “Could you imagine if I lose? My whole life, what am I going to do? I’m going to say, ‘I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics.’ I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country?"

    While presenting it as a joke there's always a grain of truth


    I mean. His MO is so transparent that he clearly means it.

    As well as that, as soon as he tries to do it everyone will say "I can't believe he tried to do that".

    It's frankly amazing!


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