American response

Surely at this stage some journalist must ask one the two Doctors is what Trump is saying about this miracle drug true or false and would they recommend to one of their patients. That question about Tiger Man was shockingly offensive at such a critical stage of the Pandemic

Wibbs wrote: »

Sure S, but Bernie Sanders won more votes than her before she was put forward as the candidate.

Where did you read that? It doesn't seem accurate. She won 16.8mn votes to his 13.1, and led the popular vote in the US primaries from the fourth one of them onwards, which took place in February and was put forward as the candidate in July I think it was.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Someone did try to ask Dr fauci but the other day but Trump wouldn't let him answer.

I remember that now but the press seem very weak in their questions he seems to intimidate everyone on the podium and in the press corp Borris tried the same
stunt when he was going for leadership .

We're in the middle of an historic pandemic where there is a lot of confusion among the public as to what to do, take or how to act. Why are you upset about reporters asking this info to be clarified by the leading expert they have, in a press conference specifically aimed at addressing these issues, given that the public are clearly still confused on the matter?

Are all American News channels either pro or anti trump I have lately started watching Fox news the are so unashamedly pro trump it makes a mockery of the idea of a non biased media did they treat Obama with contempt when he was in power and trump always derides cnn and certain papers it seems a really divided country

Stateofyou wrote: »

That's literally the WORST "news" channel you could ever watch. It's basically Republican propaganda. There are more middle of the road, reliable news sources there. NBC, USA Today, WSJ, CBS, ABC, NY Post and CNN are more middle of the road. (According to a US survey done in 2019). Huffpost, Vice, Vox, NY Times, Politico, NPR... would be a bit more left leaning, while Breitbart, Wash Examiner are more extreme right leaning. Fox News is the main right leaning news source for Republicans. Most news sources are more Dem/Liberal leaning I think.

And yes, it's a very divided country.

The world is very divided, wars, economic recessions, religious persecution, godly versus morally bankrupt people.

The MSM is left leaning and the main source of control of populations by those who control the world operating in the shadows.

Fox has Trump's back, while the rest have waged a war against him, ever since he came down the elevator in Trump tower having announced his candidacy to be president.

Scotty # wrote: »

9/11 was a terrorist attack. Coronavirus is a natural phenomenon. I don't see why one would compare the two?

Just using it as it was the line in the news when it went over 3,000 dead. Its likely used as it helps compare the scale for the reader, otherwise large numbers like this can lose their impact as its difficult to quantify.

What's worse is it looks like it might only be getting going over there, as the map of the spread/location of cases is getting more and more spread out. Places like Michigan and Louisiana are growing quite rapidly, with the latter sharing a border with Texas and quite close to some of its biggest population centers like Houston and Dallas. The death figures have gone up from 400-500 two weeks ago, to 1,200-1,300 last week, to 1900-2000 this week gone. Given that their national government is more interested in making money from this than saving lives and some of their state governors have been spreading false information a out the virus, that escalation if this gets out could keep going until and have us looking at 3,000 per day within a week or so, and recall the sky is the limit as to what it might look like 2 or 3 months from now.

The line used by some was that tens of thousands die of the flu in the US every year, but this only leads to even more concern as it highlights the lack of medical assistance so many Americans are stuck without. It seems to be an average of about 40,000, or 00.012% of the population that die from flu each year. That seems tiny until you compare it with the likes of Ireland where the number is about 90 per year on average, which works out to 00.0018%, over five times lower. This would make me very concerned that the US will have one of the highest death rates among those with the virus when all of this is said and done.

And today is the day the US overtakes Italy for the most deaths from covid tlobslly, about one hour ago it was less than 100 cases behind Italy but losing over 1,000 more than them a day. Of course,given the geographic spread of the US they should be looking at Canada as a comparison more than Europe, where population centers are far closer together.

Canada by comparison has 11.5% of the US' population, yet only 4.5% the number of cases (23k vs 503k) and 3% of their deaths (233 v 18,750), and this gap is only spreading. Canada has also enacted quite strict lockdown rules at a federal level which the US is yet to do and doesn't look like they will even consider at all as they value the economy more so than their populace.

Even with the advantage of vast internal geographic distance that the US has, it is now on pace to surpass Ireland for per capita cases at some point next week, and deaths per capita either next week or the week after.

This isn't going to go away like a miracle the way Trump claimed initially, and the figure of less than 100,000 being a "great success" which some saw as a very high number/low bar to aim for initially is now looking like it could seen be monthly death toll as early as next month.

It's quite a shame for their own sakes that their election cycle wasn't a year later, if they were ever to have a hope of pushing through universal healthcare to save countless lives in the future, it would have likely needed to be on the back of almost countless lost lives from their unthinkably poor handling of and preparedness for this. This is reflected in their resorting to piracy that you would expect to see off the coast of Somalia, desperately stealing other nations supplies which I can see doing severe damage to their reputation.

Everyone knows a lot of people will die over there, bit barring a vaccine coming out in the next 2 or 3 months, I don't know if it has really been taken into account by many how vast this toll could be.