Nissan Ariya

ELM327 wrote: »

RWD according to press release and nissan graphic.

That's not my reading of the press release, seems more like FWD or AWD -

"In the rear, the suspension packaging, including the multi-link system and rear electric motor (if equipped)"

"On models equipped with e-4ORCE, regenerative torque is distributed not only to the front wheels, but also the rear."

Doesn't seem to state anything specifically though...

It does seem to have changed from the initial press release and even the graphics in most videos showing RWD and AWD.
Seems to have been FWD all along, which is disappointing. Another relic of fossil fuel cars

ELM327 wrote: »

It does seem to have changed from the initial press release and even the graphics in most videos showing RWD and AWD.
Seems to have been FWD all along, which is disappointing. Another relic of fossil fuel cars

I was excited for the platform with rear wheel drive and very good interior but front wheel drive is such a shame. The Kona / Niro torque steer and wheel spin is not an endearing feature for otherwise nice platforms and I would bet money the Ariya will suffer in a similar way just like every other FWD car.

I would be tempted by the e4orce. Add propilot 2 and could be (for me) a contender for the cybertruck. As much as I want the latter, and I need 4x4 , it might just be a bit too impractical giving its proportions.

Zenith74 wrote: »

I recently got a Leaf e+ ...

Nobody has given their thoughts here on L62 ownership. How are you finding the e+? I'd swap to it if possible from L40, but now with CCS about to be the norm for all new sales in Ireland (& Europe) I would only consider bargains on SH market and a good sale price for L40 and look to SH M3 when they drop below 40k. Another negative is that the e+ was retrofitted to not charge over 50Kw so the new 150Kw chargers will not make a big difference.



The Ariya looks great as another sizeable machine, but am not mad about Crossover designs as they are less efficient SUV-imitators, however the high ride position has its advantages on rural roads. I find the LEAF a good compromise as it sits high and is quite similar to the old Focus.

Gile_na_gile wrote: »

Nobody has given their thoughts here on L62 ownership. How are you finding the e+? I'd swap to it if possible from L40, but now with CCS about to be the norm for all new sales in Ireland (& Europe) I would only consider bargains on SH market and a good sale price for L40 and look to SH M3 when they drop below 40k. Another negative is that the e+ was retrofitted to not charge over 50Kw so the new 150Kw chargers will not make a big difference.

With everything going on I haven’t driven it a huge amount, but drove down from NI (200km used 60% of the battery, half that was motorway set to 130km/h) and lots of local journeys. Coming from a Leaf24. Personally I love the Leaf, fairly premium interior, smooth and enjoyable to drive, plenty of tech that actually works, much bigger than people realise, depreciation pretty reasonable these days.

Yes CHAdeMO is a bummer, but with enough range to drive to most places in Ireland non-stop it’s not a major issue for me and we’re years from CHAdeMO being removed from charging locations. I think the e+ can do 100kW charging, averaging 75kW or something? But again not a big issue for me.

Battery degradation is really not that big a deal, my 6 year old Leaf24 sold with 86% SOH and no questions asked, it’s just baked into the depreciated cost. Leaf62 will need to be charged less for obvious reasons, charging is spread over more cells, better chemistry etc. I mean I’d prefer it degraded less quickly, but it’s a minor issue.

The fact the likes of the eNiro can do an extra 75-100km on a similar battery is a shame, but for my use a complete non issue.

I think the Leaf40 is a great deal for somebody buying a SH EV today (€20k for a 2018 with loads of tech) and I reckon the Leaf62 will be a cracking deal when you can get them for €20k in a couple of years time.

The Leaf gets way more flack than it deserves on this forum. I tried the Kona, Niro, M3, MS, i3, E-tron and still chose the e+ (though mostly on price compared to the e-trim/MS) to be fair :-).

liamog wrote: »

They're introducing a new electrified platform with the Ariya, it's the first model on the platform. You don't talk about a new platform unless you are planning on introducing a range of models.

Would make sense and in time Nissan will reveal more info. The strategy is to move towards luxury high end products so if the the current leaf is ré imagined or ré purposed remains to be seen.

cros13 wrote: »

If that's what you are hearing... it's wrong. They have at least five new models on the way, incl. Ariya and the new EV sedan. I was told in addition to those the Micra will also finally be launching an EV trim next year (it shares a platform with the Zoe/Clio).

I also got indicative pricing for Ireland, not sure if I'm supposed to share, but base 63kWh two motor starting price lower than previously announced, ~€45k. And the top spec e-4orce 87kWh will be mid €70k-ish.

Interesting. I registered my interest last week on one. Big fan of how they embraced Japanese Ma. ( was impressed so much at their new design philosophy that I did a yolo on Nissan stock also).

cros13 wrote: »

If that's what you are hearing... it's wrong. They have at least five new models on the way, incl. Ariya and the new EV sedan. I was told in addition to those the Micra will also finally be launching an EV trim next year (it shares a platform with the Zoe/Clio).

I also got indicative pricing for Ireland, not sure if I'm supposed to share, but base 63kWh two motor starting price lower than previously announced, ~€45k. And the top spec e-4orce 87kWh will be mid €70k-ish.

The new qashqai is reportedly also coming with E Power. Basically a Rex with a tiny battery. Very popular in Japan in the note.

fair ****s to nissan. now if they could just produce a r32 4 door sedan skyline with a decent battery id be sold for nostalgia alone :P