New Development Royal Canal Park D15

cronos · 09-03-2017 7:46pm

Ant034 wrote: »

Sherry Fitz are meeting with Ballymore today to find out what is happening with the HTB scheme. The revenue are very sketchy about when the money is paid out and to whom aswell. I dont like the idea of the developer getting it and there being no reference of it in a signed contract from 6 months ago

If you signed the contract before January 1st 2017 then it's you who get's the money directly into your bank account. Not the developer. If it's on or after that date then the builder gets it. I wouldn't worry too much about the record, Revenue don't just go randomly sending out money.

cronos · 09-03-2017 7:50pm

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

Story of the paint, so far is:

Sherry fitz say it will be grey.
Ballymore are only providing white.

The painting contractor said it is because the grey they initially used has “pigment issues”, whatever that means. The alternative grey is Dulux Diamond brand, which is quite expensive so to sidestep issues they went with white as it allows people to paint over it easily.
I suspect its mostly due to the cost of the fancy Dulux that they chose the white.

Magnolia was offered in earlier phases but wasn’t well received.

I asked if I supplied the paint would they use that and they were very reluctant.
Painter is very informative, but also now has an opportunity to get a 2nd job painting the house again.

So, white is what we all get from now on!

Pigment issues are that it's fairly easy to spot patch up areas. They are correct on that. It's something I'm having to push in snagging to get resolved. I'll probably have to do more when I get into the house.

OrdeP · 09-03-2017 7:52pm

cronos wrote: »

If you signed the contract before January 1st 2017 then it's you who get's the money directly into your bank account. Not the developer. If it's on or after that date then the builder gets it. I wouldn't worry too much about the record, Revenue don't just go randomly sending out money.

What's bit odd is that no one seems to know exactly what's supposed to happen. (post January).

You call revenue and you get a different version depending what time you call, ballymore doesn't seem to know much about it, as well...

Looking forward to know what's going to come from today's meeting...

slayerking · 09-03-2017 8:02pm

OrdeP wrote: »

What's bit odd is that no one seems to know exactly what's supposed to happen. (post January).

You call revenue and you get a different version depending what time you call, ballymore doesn't seem to know much about it, as well...

Looking forward to know what's going to come from today's meeting...

Because its a brand new scheme, I guess there might be elements of confusion across the board. There's a decent guide for contractors on the revenue site.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/reliefs/htb/index.html#section8

OrdeP · 09-03-2017 8:33pm

slayerking wrote: »

Because its a brand new scheme, I guess there might be elements of confusion across the board. There's a decent guide for contractors on the revenue site.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/reliefs/htb/index.html#section8

Guess so. Liked the way you phrased it "elements of confusion"

I believe they already went through those steps, as they are on the list of "qualifying contractors".

At the end, everything is going to be fine.

IvanPogi25 · 09-03-2017 8:33pm

OrdeP wrote: »

What's bit odd is that no one seems to know exactly what's supposed to happen. (post January).

You call revenue and you get a different version depending what time you call, ballymore doesn't seem to know much about it, as well...

Looking forward to know what's going to come from today's meeting...

My friend recently signed a contract with a different developer and they included the HTB on their contract. We should push for HTB on our contracts for our own protection.

Keithchap · 09-03-2017 9:06pm

I took these photo's in the marketing suite the last weekend they were open, these are the windows that look on to the canal. Has anyone already moved in seen similar in their houses, is it a cause for concern?

PhoenixParker · 09-03-2017 9:27pm

They look like standard settlement cracks, common in new builds. Timber & concrete shrink a bit as they dry and the weight of the house on the ground causes a small amount of movement. That results in small cracks around joints & weak points like the above.

That's what it looks like in the photos but haven't seen it myself to confirm.

Keithchap · 09-03-2017 9:30pm

PhoenixParker wrote: »

They look like standard settlement cracks, common in new builds. Timber & concrete shrink a bit as they dry and the weight of the house on the ground causes a small amount of movement. That results in small cracks around joints & weak points like the above.

That's what it looks like in the photos but haven't seen it myself to confirm.

Sounds about right. The cracks don't look as bad in the photos as they did in the flesh but still, they are just cracks.

Manion · 10-03-2017 12:18am

There is a section in the welcome pack that talks about the settling cracks. We've a few around the stairs.

cronos · 10-03-2017 1:09am

Manion wrote: »

There is a section in the welcome pack that talks about the settling cracks. We've a few around the stairs.

What does it say?

Ant034 · 10-03-2017 2:28pm

Does anyone know good tradesmen for painting and flooring. Prob a stupid question but do you reckon it's better to get the painting for first and then the flooring or vice versa?

cronos · 10-03-2017 2:50pm

Ant034 wrote: »

Does anyone know good tradesmen for painting and flooring. Prob a stupid question but do you reckon it's better to get the painting for first and then the flooring or vice versa?

I'd say paint then floor. Less risky. Only advantage to painting after floor would be perhaps paint touch-up's on the skirting boards.

PhoenixRoyal · 10-03-2017 3:11pm

hi all, we got a quote for the pocket doors at EUR 1,530 and an additional cost of EUR 350 for plumbing for the original radiator to be changed into two small radiators with position altered.
For those who have had this alteration, can you pls PM me to advise if this was also your experience? thanks!
by the way, also checked out of curiosity for the shelves unit in small room off kitchen/laundry room, still being quoted at EUR 4,000.

PhoenixRoyal · 10-03-2017 3:22pm

Beata K wrote: »

maciektok wrote: »

Hello,

Yeah we sanded the floor in the bedrooms and stairs and then Varnished it. It was hard work but happy with a result. It cost us 70 quid to rent a sander and then we spent about 150 quid on the varnish.we bought one that was stained white. Took us couple of days to do it

Hey maciektok, could you please pm me some pictures of the varnished floors? How you happy with effect after some time of living in? Can you also send me details where you rented sanding machine? In kitchen did you put tiles, did you have issue like someone else in forum with removing dishwasher after putting tiles on the floor? Thanks

@ Maciektok and Beata K, I would also be interested in these. Thanks!

maciektok · 10-03-2017 3:42pm

guns_healy wrote: »

Our heating is not working or no hot water

I'll call them in the morning but has anyone had this problem and fixed it themselves?

I didn't want to press anything on the boiler incase I made things worse!

I think ive mastered the heating system at this stage. couple of small issues with it but overall it's pretty good

maciektok · 10-03-2017 3:47pm

Ant034 wrote: »

Does anyone know good tradesmen for painting and flooring. Prob a stupid question but do you reckon it's better to get the painting for first and then the flooring or vice versa?

we user <mod snip > that works for ballymore he's pretty good. if you want I'll pm you his mobile

maciektok · 10-03-2017 3:47pm

PhoenixRoyal wrote: »

@ Maciektok and Beata K, I would also be interested in these. Thanks!

guys pm me your email address

cronos · 10-03-2017 4:31pm

PhoenixRoyal wrote: »

hi all, we got a quote for the pocket doors at EUR 1,530 and an additional cost of EUR 350 for plumbing for the original radiator to be changed into two small radiators with position altered.
For those who have had this alteration, can you pls PM me to advise if this was also your experience? thanks!
by the way, also checked out of curiosity for the shelves unit in small room off kitchen/laundry room, still being quoted at EUR 4,000.

I'd be very interested to see some pictures of the entertainment unit that people have come up with. Even if it's been shipped in from abroad.

Nhol78 · 10-03-2017 4:36pm

maciektok wrote: »

guys pm me your email address

Maciektok, you can upload pictures to the forum, saves you sending lots of e-mails

OfflerCrocGod · 10-03-2017 11:14pm

maciektok wrote: »

I think ive mastered the heating system at this stage. couple of small issues with it but overall it's pretty good

Did you find any good resources for it online?

mandy662 · 11-03-2017 11:51am

Just for clarification, for anyone who requested radiators to be moved, was there was charge or was it free? I thought I remembered someone on here saying they asked for radiators to be moved and it was free of charge,
Thanks!

Ant034 · 11-03-2017 12:45pm

maciektok wrote: »

we user <mod snip > that works for ballymore he's pretty good. if you want I'll pm you his mobile

Would appreciate it you could. Thanks ðŸ‘

Nhol78 · 11-03-2017 2:14pm

mandy662 wrote: »

Just for clarification, for anyone who requested radiators to be moved, was there was charge or was it free? I thought I remembered someone on here saying they asked for radiators to be moved and it was free of charge,
Thanks!

I have had 2 radiators moved and I have had the wall between the living room and the kitchen removed which necessitated a change in radiators.

I was not asked to pay for the changes to the radiators. This seems to be a new thing.

Bruncvik · 11-03-2017 3:53pm

cronos wrote: »

I'd be very interested to see some pictures of the entertainment unit that people have come up with. Even if it's been shipped in from abroad.

Our media wall is not yet complete. This is how it looks right now. (And yes, we paid 160 TV license fee just to be able to stream an 8-hour video of a fireplace to our TV.)

media.jpg

We're currently looking for carpenters here and abroad, who'd build something to our liking. In my opinion, the one in the show house has lots of wasted space (hollow dividers and back that stands off a little from the wall because the skirting boards weren't removed there), so we'd get something more efficient.

fret_wimp2 · 11-03-2017 4:17pm

Nhol78 wrote: »

I have had 2 radiators moved and I have had the wall between the living room and the kitchen removed which necessitated a change in radiators.

I was not asked to pay for the changes to the radiators. This seems to be a new thing.

I was charged to move one radiator, but afaik, the pipes were already in so had to be moved. maybe if they were not already in, it wouldnt have cost anything.

cronos · 11-03-2017 4:46pm

Bruncvik wrote: »

Our media wall is not yet complete. This is how it looks right now. (And yes, we paid 160 TV license fee just to be able to stream an 8-hour video of a fireplace to our TV.)

media.jpg

We're currently looking for carpenters here and abroad, who'd build something to our liking. In my opinion, the one in the show house has lots of wasted space (hollow dividers and back that stands off a little from the wall because the skirting boards weren't removed there), so we'd get something more efficient.

Well, I'm always interested to see different designs people come up with for this sort of thing. So feel free to share once you have a design/price etc.. on here or via PM if you prefer.

Nice fire

This crowd keep coming up on facebook. Might have some interesting solutions for the attic space <mod snip: no on thread recommendations as per charter please>

IvanPogi25 · 11-03-2017 7:05pm

For anyone interested on the progress of the construction of the recent phase launched last month, I have attached the photos we've taken today when we visited the site. First photo is house 17 and 18 on the site plan. Second photo is the foundation for Heron house.

Keithchap · 11-03-2017 11:26pm

IvanPogi25 wrote: »

For anyone interested on the progress of the construction of the recent phase launched last month, I have attached the photos we've taken today when we visited the site. First photo is house 17 and 18 on the site plan. Second photo is the foundation for Heron house.

Flying up!! They want to get number 19 up ASAP as it's the show house for the last phase.

fret_wimp2 · 12-03-2017 6:00am

Started investigating flooring (laminate and tile) but have a few questions:

-Most places sell flooring but don't want to install it, e.g. B&q are reluctant to install and charge 25 euro per m2 to install. That seems expensive.
Should I adjust my expectations on floor fitting costs?

-Is it normal to buy the materials (tiles and laminate) myself and have someone fit or to just get a company who comenout and measure, supply materials and sort it all out?

-What thickness do I need to avoid creaky floors?
-Do I use different thickness on ground floor vs upstairs?

-What standaed/grade /certification should laminate have to be considered durable and waterproof?

Basic questions but as I've never owned a house before, Im unsure how this usually works.

andreionut · 12-03-2017 11:01am

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

Started investigating flooring (laminate and tile) but have a few questions:

-Most places sell flooring but don't want to install it, e.g. B&q are reluctant to install and charge 25 euro per m2 to install. That seems expensive.
Should I adjust my expectations on floor fitting costs?

-Is it normal to buy the materials (tiles and laminate) myself and have someone fit or to just get a company who comenout and measure, supply materials and sort it all out?

-What thickness do I need to avoid creaky floors?
-Do I use different thickness on ground floor vs upstairs?

-What standaed/grade /certification should laminate have to be considered durable and waterproof?

Basic questions but as I've never owned a house before, Im unsure how this usually works.

This is an expensive quote. Des Kelly quoted us around 14/m2 to install. It's normal to get floors installed by someone else. Usually, if the floor is not that easy to install you should hire a professional that you trust (via recommendation from friends).

I don't know a lot about laminate floors but there are some that are good to install in the kitchen. Do more research on the internet to see your options (This is from an American site: https://www.lowes.com/projects/build-and-remodel/laminate-flooring-buying-guide/project)

Usually the underlay is the one that you change and not the thickness of the floor. On the ground floor you should use a foil-back and thicker underlay to protect from moisture and isolate as it's going on concrete. On the upstair floors you already have insulation so the cheapest will do.

Manion · 12-03-2017 11:04am

Hi

We paid 24 euro per square meter or there abouts for hardwood fitting. If you get supply and fitted you should see a discount. The guys carried out a full site survey and caught numerous issues with the floor.

Laminate won't be water proof, you get water resisted to different levels but fundamentally it's paper.

You should have no creaking in your new house from the floor boards. Creaking is the should of loose boards rubbing against one another. If you get that horrible laminate up and down movement it's due to incorrect installation. We had that in the last place.

The real problem with laminate is the click click click noise walking makes. You really need a very good sound proof underlay. We used a water proof and sound damping underlay throughout.

Regardless of what you go for do make sure that downstairs you have a moister barrier. The floors are not sealed when you move in and if you do not seal them any floor you put down will be destroyed in no time.

Lastly, you'll need to get the doors cut, we used a guy on site but he cut the doors down on the floors which left white paint marks on the floor. Be sure any quote includes this costs. Also make sure you requested skirting boards to be tacted on rather.

cronos · 12-03-2017 11:40am

Manion wrote: »

Hi
The guys carried out a full site survey and caught numerous issues with the floor.

What issues? Anything you got the builders to fix in snagging?

Manion · 12-03-2017 1:18pm

I go into a fair bit of detail in my first post. Essentially the ground floor concrete was full of waves, dips and humps. There was a mini hill in the back room. The builds had to sort it. In the end I wasn't 100 % happy with the back room but after two weeks of delays I had to move forward or risk not being in by Christmas.

I'd raised it in the snagging and the floor people had also got me to raise it before we even did the snagging. They had safe pass so could go onsite before it was finished.

I was told by other tradesmen that despite Bally more pretending this was a one off, the ground crew who did my property had feiced up others, and had been fired.

This would have been extremely expensive to fix if I had needed to pay for it.

cronos · 12-03-2017 1:29pm

Manion wrote: »

I go into a fair bit of detail in my first post. Essentially the ground floor concrete was full of waves, dips and humps. There was a mini hill in the back room. The builds had to sort it. In the end I wasn't 100 % happy with the back room but after two weeks of delays I had to move forward or risk not being in by Christmas.

I'd raised it in the snagging and the floor people had also got me to raise it before we even did the snagging. They had safe pass so could go onsite before it was finished.

I was told by other tradesmen that despite Bally more pretending this was a one off, the ground crew who did my property had feiced up others, and had been fired.

This would have been extremely expensive to fix if I had needed to pay for it.

How exactly did they conduct the check to see that the floor was ok? I had a person in to check laminate and he thought it was fine but didn't actually conduct any specific checks on the concrete, just looked at it and thought it was fine saying "I have a good eye for these things".

Would you have spotted the floor issues yourself?

Manion · 12-03-2017 2:29pm

I'm pretty certain they put a laser level on the floor. I'd spotted some issues such as the waves but others you'd only notice once it was pointed out.

I got a 2 meter level and it was obvious using that. I wouldn't thrust someone's eye.

cronos · 12-03-2017 3:43pm

Manion wrote: »

I'm pretty certain they put a laser level on the floor. I'd spotted some issues such as the waves but others you'd only notice once it was pointed out.

I got a 2 meter level and it was obvious using that. I wouldn't thrust someone's eye.

Yes hopefully that won't come back to bite me. I was already almost 2 months snagging with them as they made numerous mistakes. Hopefully, it will work out. I know I can raise snags after the sale but hoping I won't have to.

maciektok · 12-03-2017 5:20pm

Nhol78 wrote: »

Maciektok, you can upload pictures to the forum, saves you sending lots of e-mails

I probably prefer to send the photos via email rather than uploading them into a public forum, hope that's ok

maciektok · 12-03-2017 5:24pm

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

Started investigating flooring (laminate and tile) but have a few questions:

-Most places sell flooring but don't want to install it, e.g. B&q are reluctant to install and charge 25 euro per m2 to install. That seems expensive.
Should I adjust my expectations on floor fitting costs?

-Is it normal to buy the materials (tiles and laminate) myself and have someone fit or to just get a company who comenout and measure, supply materials and sort it all out?

-What thickness do I need to avoid creaky floors?
-Do I use different thickness on ground floor vs upstairs?

-What standaed/grade /certification should laminate have to be considered durable and waterproof?

Basic questions but as I've never owned a house before, Im unsure how this usually works.

some brands have waterproof laminates, I think balterio and egger do. we went with egger and we are very happy, although we didnt use it in the kitchen, I laid them myself, easy enough job, however if you;re not up for it i think you'll find someone on site who can do pretty decent job slightly cheaper then the shops too. pm for info

PhoenixRoyal · 12-03-2017 6:14pm

Hi all,
Could somebody with a Heron house advised height of walls on ground floor? And height of living room window? And advise if door height is different from standard doors?
Manu thanks!

mandy662 · 12-03-2017 10:31pm

Anyone request a different bathroom layout? Specifically in an iris?
Wondering how much it would be?

Beata K · 12-03-2017 11:40pm

maciektok wrote: »

I probably prefer to send the photos via email rather than uploading them into a public forum, hope that's ok

Thanks a million for pictures!

PhoenixRoyal · 13-03-2017 12:22pm

Hi all,
Has anybody requested the bathroom or kitchen allowance? they seem to be against it. thanks!

slayerking · 13-03-2017 4:09pm

Did anyone manage to get anywhere with the contracts and specifying grey paint throughout?

guns_healy · 13-03-2017 5:10pm

Anyone still having problems with their showers leaking out on to the skirting board?

We've tried to seal it ourselves but the problem has returned

Over time I fear the damp will rot away the bottom of the wall

Bruncvik · 13-03-2017 6:10pm

guns_healy wrote: »

Over time I fear the damp will rot away the bottom of the wall

I've had the same issue, also tried to fix it, and it returned. What you said is exactly what I wrote to Tom in an e-mail, and reminded him that we had a 10 year structural warranty. He sent out Jason to have a look, and they fixed it the next day Tom saw it. After a month or so, the new seal appears to be holding.

mandy662 · 13-03-2017 11:26pm

slayerking wrote: »

Did anyone manage to get anywhere with the contracts and specifying grey paint throughout?

No luck yet, still waiting for ballymore's solicitor to get back to our solicitor about it.. Although nick said today there's no hope in hell of getting them to paint with grey!

I'm gona try get painters details from ballymore and ask them directly about us supplying them with the paint if all else fails. I know another poster said that the painters were reluctant about it but that's not a no..

tradesman · 13-03-2017 11:29pm

guns_healy wrote: »

Anyone still having problems with their showers leaking out on to the skirting board?

We've tried to seal it ourselves but the problem has returned

Over time I fear the damp will rot away the bottom of the wall

Whatever you do, don't try to fix these problems yourselves. It is the job of the builder to sort these problems out & you could be blamed for causing of making the thing worse. Leaks from shower frames is a common problem on houses I have snagged, I can safely say 1 in every 3 showers leaks!

slayerking · 14-03-2017 12:29am

mandy662 wrote: »

No luck yet, still waiting for ballymore's solicitor to get back to our solicitor about it.. Although nick said today there's no hope in hell of getting them to paint with grey!

I've found Sherry Fitz in general are pretty frustrating to deal with at this stage. I also got a call from them today regarding a handful of things I pointed out to the solicitor that were absent from the contract but were promised.
While a call confirming things is grand, its an utter waste of time when you are at contract stage, I had to explain to him I wanted these things in writing to which he wasn't too happy about. They seem to be putting the heat on regarding getting the contracts signed ASAP or you loose the kitchen appliances.

Regarding the paint, I dont think its looking good regarding getting it included in the contract. Ballymore do, in fairness, seem open to it but the problem is there may be a cost if we deviate from the white. Ballymore gave me a contact number for the painter, but I havent contacted.
Waiting to see how the contract negotiations pan out

janeybaby · 14-03-2017 11:05am

If you need more time to discuss/agree clauses in the contract, ask your solicitor to request the timeframe to be extended for the free kitchen appliances. That's what we have done and they have agreed to give us some wiggle room as they can see that its all going in the right direction. Cost wise free kitchen appliances are great but the bottom line is the contract is more important.

New Development Royal Canal Park D15

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