Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

TimesArrow · 04-02-2021 12:06am

Evolution Randy was the best he ever was imo. He was a genuinely unlikeable heel and worked brilliantly in that role

PTH2009 · 04-02-2021 4:28pm

The buzz is slowly running out for Edges return.

gerrybbadd · 04-02-2021 6:22pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

The buzz is slowly running out for Edges return.

Is it?

I'm still buzzed. Did you see his interaction with Finn and Pete Dunne? Imagine him facing either of those lads!

His injury really put the skids under the return. He's had one feud. Edge is fantastic on the mic, and I think personally, his facial expressions are unmatched, and have only gotten better while he was away. Comes across as genuine, and all that time acting has paid off.

04-02-2021 6:33pm

I'd be grand with Edge and Christian having one last run as a tag-team but absolutely zero interest in Christian as a singles wrestler at the top of the card.

Always screamed mid-card title holder to me. Same story with Eddie and Benoit.

Lithium93_ · 04-02-2021 11:46pm

Here's something for everyone to ponder. Whenever a team (I'll use this weekend's Super Bowl 55 as an example) in another sports wins a Championship, and they get the obligatory WWE Championship replica as a congratulations. What actually happens to those replica Championships? Would either the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or the Kansas City Chiefs keep the replica, or just bin it and move on?

J. Marston · 05-02-2021 1:14am

I'd say a player keeps it.

A wrestling fan or the game's MVP or something. Even if you weren't a wrestling fan, I doubt you'd bin it!

PTH2009 · 05-02-2021 1:29am

J. Marston wrote: »

I'd say a player keeps it.

A wrestling fan or the game's MVP or something. Even if you weren't a wrestling fan, I doubt you'd bin it!

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Here's something for everyone to ponder. Whenever a team (I'll use this weekend's Super Bowl 55 as an example) in another sports wins a Championship, and they get the obligatory WWE Championship replica as a congratulations. What actually happens to those replica Championships? Would either the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or the Kansas City Chiefs keep the replica, or just bin it and move on?

Prob go up on the wall in the teams training centre or area of there home stadium like board room, museum etc

B.A._Baracus · 05-02-2021 1:06pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Here's something for everyone to ponder. Whenever a team (I'll use this weekend's Super Bowl 55 as an example) in another sports wins a Championship, and they get the obligatory WWE Championship replica as a congratulations. What actually happens to those replica Championships? Would either the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or the Kansas City Chiefs keep the replica, or just bin it and move on?

PTH2009 wrote: »

Prob go up on the wall in the teams training centre or area of there home stadium like board room, museum etc

Yup they keep it.
Here's an example of the New York Giants at Met Life

new-york-giants-super-bowl-trophies-on-display-in-the-legacy-club-at-metlife-stadium-P570WW.jpg

new-york-giants-super-bowl-trophies-on-display-in-the-legacy-club-at-metlife-stadium-P570WW.jpg

What's actually funny is players selling their SuperBowl rings

The White Wolf · 05-02-2021 11:31pm

Another thread made me read up on what Joe Hennig was up to.....easy to forget that when he was repackaged as Curtis Axel and put with Heyman that he faced Triple H, and won by knockout because of "concussive" issues for Triple H. :eek:

Talk about a rocket that went absolutely nowhere. I always understood Stone Cold's reason for walking out over how they wanted him to put Brock over but this just hammers it home even more.

beakerjoe · 06-02-2021 12:05am

The White Wolf wrote: »

Another thread made me read up on what Joe Hennig was up to.....easy to forget that when he was repackaged as Curtis Axel and put with Heyman that he faced Triple H, and won by knockout because of "concussive" issues for Triple H. :eek:

Talk about a rocket that went absolutely nowhere. I always understood Stone Cold's reason for walking out over how they wanted him to put Brock over but this just hammers it home even more.

They put him with HHH with literally no build ...... what were they expecting, even if HHH puts him over strong (he didnt) this was too much too soon. No wonder it didnt pan out.

Axel isnt the saviour of wrestling like this, but he wasnt given a decent shot either. Like so many who get promoted to the main roster.

Joe was introduced under a silly name and basically fodder for Cena in the Nexus, then repackaged suddenly as Mr Perfects kid with the same look and we were magically expected to buy it. Then his push was half hearted and rushed, before he was relegated to comedy act and forgotten.

A decent hand who wasnt given a fair chance.

The White Wolf · 06-02-2021 12:20am

I can remember being excited they repackaged him and put him with Heyman. Just can't get my head around it going nowhere after Hunter put him "over".

The Mcgillicutty stuff doesn't bear mentioning.

06-02-2021 12:23pm

Why does Kevin Owens stunner look so ****? Is it the way people are taking it or the way he's giving it? Looks like it's too fast or something. ****ty WWE camera work these days probably doesn't help.

J. Marston · 06-02-2021 7:28pm

Wouldn't be the biggest fan of Bayley but her entrance theme is the best in WWE. Really old-school feel to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qWCtlLFB8

Itssoeasy · 06-02-2021 7:30pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why does Kevin Owens stunner look so ****? Is it the way people are taking it or the way he's giving it? Looks like it's too fast or something. ****ty WWE camera work these days probably doesn't help.

I’d say it’s a bit for column A and B cactus. I mean it takes two to tango as they say and as we’ve seen Austin give stunners who couldn’t take them and it looked like ****. Well on the speed question it’s probably because Austin had a longer set up to it then KO has.

And on the Curtis axel post. If I’m remembering correctly Vince had this belief that sons of wrestlers needed to earn the right to use the family name. It seems that only went for some because the old man changes his mind like a gust of wind.

PTH2009 · 06-02-2021 9:59pm

https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2021/2/6/22269823/wwe-signs-brock-lesnar-clone-parker-boudreaux-riddle-funny-reaction

That guy is literally a Brock Lesnar clone

CastorTroy · 06-02-2021 10:50pm

Maybe it's the top he's wearing but looking at the picture quickly, it looks like a picture of his back with his head the wrong way round

CastorTroy · 06-02-2021 10:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why does Kevin Owens stunner look so ****? Is it the way people are taking it or the way he's giving it? Looks like it's too fast or something. ****ty WWE camera work these days probably doesn't help.

The kick he does beforehand doesn't help either. It looks like he's for a stunner, remembers the kick at the last second and barely connects with it

LineOfBeauty · 07-02-2021 1:56am

As suspected, the AEW wedding angle involving undercard acts Kip Sabian and Penelope Ford smoked the Edge segment in the top the of the hour quarter on Wednesday. Even taking into account that wedding angles traditionally do well ratings wise, that's a disaster. Following on from the dismal post Rumble Raw rating and now the flat Smackdown rating too, if this were in the era of pay per view, WWE would be pivoting away from Edge as early as the next edition of Raw such is the interest (born out by the ratings) in this story.

B.A._Baracus · 07-02-2021 7:21am

Re: the stunner talk.
It really is a great move isn't it? Like Owens doesn't do it as good as Austin sure. But the move is amazing on the subject.

Can be hit on anyone and out of no-where. I wonder what other moves could be done the same that just haven't been?
Be it either not invented yet or hasn't been built up that way. DDP (and Orton) have the diamond cutter. Jake Roberts had the DDT. I wonder what else could be the next move?

Riddle101 · 07-02-2021 9:55am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Re: the stunner talk.
It really is a great move isn't it? Like Owens doesn't do it as good as Austin sure. But the move is amazing on the subject.

Can be hit on anyone and out of no-where. I wonder what other moves could be done the same that just haven't been?
Be it either not invented yet or hasn't been built up that way. DDP (and Orton) have the diamond cutter. Jake Roberts had the DDT. I wonder what else could be the next move?

Sweet Chin Music comes to mind. HBK does it so flawlessly he can hit it from any angle on anyone. Still, remember the superkick he gave to Shelton Benjamen when he went for a springboard move off the top rope.

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 10:00am

Riddle101 wrote: »

Sweet Chin Music comes to mind. HBK does it so flawlessly he can hit it from any angle on anyone. Still, remember the superkick he gave to Shelton Benjamen when he went for a springboard move off the top rope.

That sweet chin music on Shelton Benjamin was god like. That’s another example of wrestling being a collaborative thing. It needed both HBK and Benjamin to work to make it look as good as it did.

riffmongous · 07-02-2021 2:10pm

The crossface, you put your hands anywhere near Benoit and he could drag you into one, great way to pop the crowd

ShagNastii · 07-02-2021 10:05pm

I think Owens stunner gets poo pood is because it is SCSA's move. As stupid as that sounds.

I'd definitely say that the DDT needs to be used a bit more. It is an awesome move and does have that snappy "out of nowhere" feel to it.

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 10:11pm

ShagNastii wrote: »

I think Owens stunner gets poo pood is because it is SCSA's move. As stupid as that sounds.

I'd definitely say that the DDT needs to be used a bit more. It is an awesome move and does have that snappy "out of nowhere" feel to it.

It needs to be re established first though as a move that means something before it can be used more. I mean the DDT used to be the end of a match and it was a definite end. Now it’s a transition move. When jake Roberts hit the DDT that was it.game over and done deal.

Agent Coulson · 07-02-2021 10:17pm

How long before Vince decides to try and put on a 2 hour show out for TV and Streaming every night of the week using Thunder dome since they no longer have house shows that leaves a lot of talent not doing anything so why not use them to make more content to sell.

They already have USA/Peacock and Fox and then sell two/three others night to other platforms for billions.

US TV and Streaming sites all need content these days now to compete against each other.

ShagNastii · 07-02-2021 11:16pm

After watching Taker on JRE. He should be the go to for new wrestlers in terms of just how important a massive character is. It makes or breaks a career.

I really believe if it was Mean Mark Callous that came in he would have had a decent run but he'd have been gone by 94/95 without the Undertaker gimmick.

J. Marston · 08-02-2021 12:31am

Gargano: "At the next Takeover, on Valentine’s Day, I will have special Marvel-inspired gear."

https://www.marvel.com/articles/podcasts/this-week-in-marvel-goes-ringside-with-wrestler-and-marvel-fan-johnny-gargano

No fúcking way, Johnny? Are ya serious, I never would've guessed. A daring change of direction for him.

Deeper Blue · 08-02-2021 1:14am

J. Marston wrote: »

No fúcking way, Johnny? Are ya serious, I never would've guessed. A daring change of direction for him.

Didn't Mysterio do that at Wrestlemania about 15 years ago? Innovative stuff

J. Marston · 08-02-2021 1:24am

El Sueño wrote: »

Didn't Mysterio do that at Wrestlemania about 15 years ago? Innovative stuff

He does it at every Takeover and it's my biggest irrational wrestling pet peeve. I can't stand it. What does dressing up as Ant-Man or Thor add to a feud?

Lacey Evans embroidering "SETH" on to her arse for that intergender tag match a couple of years ago showed more wrestling nous than every Marvel cosplay in wrestling history.

Riddle101 · 08-02-2021 9:39am

ShagNastii wrote: »

I really believe if it was Mean Mark Callous that came in he would have had a decent run but he'd have been gone by 94/95 without the Undertaker gimmick.

I'd say he would have gone the route of Glen Jacobs if he debuted as Mean Mark Callous. As in, he would have had a few different gimmick changes throughout the years before he found his calling.

Hell, he'd probably have ended up in a big man tag-team with someone like Brian Adams or Brian Lee. Something similar to The Skyscrapers.

Omackeral · 08-02-2021 9:54am

Good shout. Plus I think Brian Lee was his cousin. Oh and of course he played fake Undertaker at Summerslam 94.

Lithium93_ · 08-02-2021 10:06am

J. Marston wrote: »

No fúcking way, Johnny? Are ya serious, I never would've guessed. A daring change of direction for him.

J. Marston wrote: »

He does it at every Takeover and it's my biggest irrational wrestling pet peeve. I can't stand it. What does dressing up as Ant-Man or Thor add to a feud?

Lacey Evans embroidering "SETH" on to her arse for that intergender tag match a couple of years ago showed more wrestling nous than every Marvel cosplay in wrestling history.

I find it highly amusing that this really gets on your nerves so much.

B.A._Baracus · 08-02-2021 11:41am

ShagNastii wrote: »

I really believe if it was Mean Mark Callous that came in he would have had a decent run but he'd have been gone by 94/95 without the Undertaker gimmick.

Agreed.
The chances of finding huge success in WWE are slim.

CastorTroy · 08-02-2021 12:19pm

Why aren't Superbowl reports referring to Gronk as "Former 24/7 champion Rob Gronkowski"?

beakerjoe · 08-02-2021 12:20pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I find it highly amusing that this really gets on your nerves so much.

J vs Gargano has been a slow build feud going back a few years. I cant wait for the pay off. (J's head exploding when Gargano goes full Thanos and clicks his finger as a finisher).

Lithium93_ · 08-02-2021 12:25pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

J vs Gargano has been a slow build feud going back a few years. I cant wait for the pay off. (J's head exploding when Gargano goes full Thanos and clicks his finger as a finisher).

Gargano is occupying some prime real estate in his head :pac:

11-02-2021 1:31am

Calvin Tankman is some talent.

TimesArrow · 11-02-2021 1:50am

Daniels Bryan’s run since return from injury has for the most part been a major anti climax.. yes, the planets champion stuff was good and he’ll always have good matches, but it really should have been a lot more than this..

His rise around WM30 ( when the Company didn’t want him to be a top guy) was amazing and will probably never be topped but I really feel they’ve missed a golden opportunity here. He was the favourite going into the RR and they did nothing with that either l

bmorrissey · 11-02-2021 12:15pm

TimesArrow wrote: »

Daniels Bryan’s run since return from injury has for the most part been a major anti climax.. yes, the planets champion stuff was good and he’ll always have good matches, but it really should have been a lot more than this..

His rise around WM30 ( when the Company didn’t want him to be a top guy) was amazing and will probably never be topped but I really feel they’ve missed a golden opportunity here. He was the favourite going into the RR and they did nothing with that either l

Yeah its not been terrible from what i seen but by god he was so over coming into WM30.

I personally would have had him win over Edge, you could still have edge last ages in rumble and knocked at the end. Then have him win the chamber to carry on to mania for the other belt.

LineOfBeauty · 12-02-2021 8:10pm

https://twitter.com/WWEShop/status/1359986824790310922?s=19

What is this merch! Who designs this and thinks it's good? Worse yet, who buys this and wears it?

beakerjoe · 12-02-2021 10:29pm

Ive seen worse. Sin Cara penis shirt anyone.

Wasnt it the merch that set ACH off in WWE

Smacruairi · 13-02-2021 1:26am

I own 3 pieces of merch.

1. Becky lynch shirt (not "the man")
2. An under armour Rock shirt that is so comfortable and loose fit it was actually worth the extra price.
3. My Shane I Mac "here comes the money shirt". I defy anyone not to feel the sht walking into a room with that playing in their head.

Agent Coulson · 13-02-2021 4:05pm

I just saw the trailer for John Cena's Wipeout series on TBS and it has me wondering will TNT try and have a AEW special with wrestlers from the show on it. Get that WWE/AEW crossover and Cena would have to be all nice and complementary about AEW.

Also will we get a John Cena Wipeout vs The Miz Cannonball feud at WM for the best gameshow host wrestler.

The White Wolf · 13-02-2021 4:42pm

Seeing Zeb Coulter doing the We The People gimmick in 2021 would certainly be interesting. It was weird 8 years ago and maybe that's why it got over unintentionally, but doing it now would be comparable to when they did Muhammad Hassan.

It would be such a sh1tshow I would be curious to see it.

PTH2009 · 14-02-2021 3:20pm

https://www.facebook.com/331518590270143/posts/3702042369884398/?sfnsn=mo

hynesie08 · 14-02-2021 4:19pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/331518590270143/posts/3702042369884398/?sfnsn=mo

Hopefully its Kay Lee Ray......

J. Marston · 14-02-2021 6:17pm

Walter?

beakerjoe · 14-02-2021 6:27pm

God it would be a huge shot in the arm if they brought him in to feud with Finn.

Be an even better situation if Walter went full time in NXT and ran through everyone. Unlikely though.

J. Marston · 14-02-2021 6:37pm

Would love to see Walter absolutely demolish Balor in 60 seconds.

I think Balor is an awful, awful champion.

beakerjoe · 14-02-2021 7:10pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Would love to see Walter absolutely demolish Balor in 60 seconds.

I think Balor is an awful, awful champion.

Dont agree with your Finn take, its decent. But I will agree with the Walter Squash take.

Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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