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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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    #3542
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Ciara Kelly is a voice of reason.

    NPHET not concerned with public health
    What are they concerned with did she say?


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    #3543
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    What's with the grave visit loophole?

    Can't you just say you're visiting Micheal Collins grave or Bob's grave if stopped while outside the 5km radius?


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    #3544
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 31,968 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Don't Chute! wrote: »
    She is still more of a doctor than Nox which was my point. I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.
    She is a GP.... she isn't particularly qualified to give definitive opinions on a pandemic, she is a populist, gormless, clueless twit.


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    #3545
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,842 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    it makes sense why there are no income tax related hikes or PS pay cuts etc, imagine the backlash if they did, they need as much public buy in as possible! These same fools if you touched their income now, would have a fit! YET, YET the endless billons being squandered, is actually coming out of their pockets, in terms of future higher taxation... or no income tax cuts etc, where there would have been. Room for no or less pay increases...


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    #3546
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    What's with the grave visit loophole?

    Can't you just say you're visiting Micheal Collins grave or Bob's grave if stopped while outside the 5km radius?

    I like your thinking. But its a good point. With the exemptions in place it really wont be that hard for people to circumvent the 5k rule if they wish


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    #3547
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,838 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Covid has not killed 1.12m. 1.12 m (vast majority of whom were over the age of 80) have died while (or after) testing positive for PCR test.

    Turn off RTE. Really.

    Tv is well and truly off my friend. WHO have verified the numbers. I couldn’t give a rats what age they were. Everybody including both my parents, now in their 80’s are lives, people alive.

    They are not publishing for the craic.

    The underlying conditions mob need to see a psychologist. A nice big collective get together. Next time somebody dies of cancer... “ ahhhh yeah, but they had an underlying condition, they only died WITH cancer “. Right :eek:


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    #3548
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,274 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    What are they concerned with did she say?

    Only Covid no other health issues.


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    #3549
    completedit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Rrrrrr2 wrote: »
    They did in 2010 fairly pronto. Really does not take much for them to be spooked - we got about 18 months then before we entered an IMF programme

    Yeah but head of IMF has said they're done with austerity.


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    #3550
    Don't Chute!
    Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    gmisk wrote: »
    She is a GP.... she isn't particularly qualified to give definitive opinions on a pandemic, she is a populist, gormless, clueless twit.

    She is eminently more qualified than you are, of that much I am certain.


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    #3551
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    completedit wrote: »
    Yeah but head of IMF has said they're done with austerity.

    Yea, and if you believe that you'll believe anything- countries aren't going to given Carte Blanche to spend whatever they please. Despite what the lockdown lovers will tell the gullible.


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    #3552
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    When PressUp gets their day in court, I'd nearly guarantee that the weasel govt will come out with the "guidelines and not rules" spiel that they used for the Ryanair/Aer Lingus court case. I've emailed Revenue multiple times asking what the laws (not guidelines) were regarding closing "my" pub under the "Living with Covid" levels, such as was I liable to any fines if I opened, could I lose my license, what powers the Gardai had to close me down and were these restrictions covered in law, or just guidelines.

    They have so far refused to reply.

    What the hell has revenue got to do with health or justice laws/guidelines. Maybe ask the correct department


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    #3553
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Tubridy reckons if we behave people can come from the US for Christmas.

    Utter diarrhoea from the talentless cretin

    Hate the fool but if maybe followed the simple rules we would not be in this mess


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    #3554
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Guest “Have a bath, take a deep breath”

    Ryan “ yeah just get the bubbles going, have a glass of wine, I feel better already”

    Please cut my ears off and pour hot engine oil into the crevice

    And this is the reason he has the high numbers people listening and then go complaint just to feel better. Maybe if you turn of the news, boards, facebook, twitter and chat shows for a bit and did other stuff you may feel better


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    #3555
    darconio
    Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭darconio


    Strumms wrote: »
    The underlying conditions mob need to see a psychologist. A nice big collective get together. Next time somebody dies of cancer... “ ahhhh yeah, but they had an underlying condition, they only died WITH cancer “. Right :eek:


    You are comparing a deadly disease, a mutation that is the second-leading cause of death in the world, with a virus that is not fatal unless you have underlying conditions. And even if you do have any, you are likely to be cured and survive.



    Not sure who needs a psychologist


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    #3556
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    martingriff wrote: »
    What the hell has revenue got to do with health or justice laws/guidelines. Maybe ask the correct department

    Legislation was searched and provided with a 2 minute search. A simple google of ‘Garda powers licences premised Ireland legislation gave a number 1 hit. Most newspapers reported it and editorial was in print and online.

    Citizens information office had online and easy to find. A call to them would have had it within seconds.

    The VFI and LVA had it front and centre. Law society gazette had it.

    The police would assist if contacted, your solicitor (never heard of a pub without one) would provide it free of charge.

    Your accountant would requested legal updates from their accredited body.

    Local TD..1 minute.
    In fact finding a revenue contact who would deal in criminal law and had a direct email would be the slowest and most bizarre way of going about it. If you were closed down for example having an unsafe work environment or for permitting criminal acts to be undertaken, would you send an email to revenue without do anything else?


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    #3557
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Don't Chute! wrote: »
    Nox, Ciara Kelly is an ACTUAL Doctor, not a Fisher Price one like yourself.

    Ciara Kelly hasn't been an actual doctor is years. As soon as she realised she could leverage her own show and agenda she gave it all up. Has she not stop paying her fees to stay on the register


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    #3558
    ThewhiteJesus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    All the people shouting for schools to close down and yet as you say schools should be riddled by now

    I think it was actually one of the better decisions the government made, keeping the schools open. The kids need this stability now and to be honest the teachers whinging is getting a little wearing .

    when do they ever not whinge to be fair this is like christmas for them


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    #3559
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,274 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    martingriff wrote: »
    And this is the reason he has the high numbers people listening and then go complaint just to feel better. Maybe if you turn of the news, boards, facebook, twitter and chat shows for a bit and did other stuff you may feel better

    Thanks for the advice.

    Might run a hot bath with bubbles as well


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    #3560
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Covid has not killed 1.12m. 1.12 m (vast majority of whom were over the age of 80) have died while (or after) testing positive for PCR test.

    Turn off RTE. Really.

    So what if they were over 80 they died. Who knows how long more they could have lived. Have some respect


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    #3561
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 8,953 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Tubridy reckons if we behave people can come from the US for Christmas.



    Great, they can come home and bring covid with them, party at loads of different houses at christmas, then fcuk off back to american in january leaving us to deal with the fallout.


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    #3562
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    What's with the grave visit loophole?

    Can't you just say you're visiting Micheal Collins grave or Bob's grave if stopped while outside the 5km radius?

    No it is for people who want to visit graves of a deceased as they could not get to the funeral or anniversaries not for you to chuckle look I fooled them


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    #3563
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,838 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    darconio wrote: »
    You are comparing a deadly disease, a mutation that is the second-leading cause of death in the world, with a virus that is not fatal unless you have underlying conditions. And even if you do have any, you are likely to be cured and survive.



    Not sure who needs a psychologist

    I’m sure who needs one ;)

    COVID 1,117,577 deaths


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    #3564
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Only Covid no other health issues.

    It is like that it is why they were formed with a narrow remit!!!!!!


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    #3565
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,274 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    martingriff wrote: »
    It is like that it is why they were formed with a narrow remit!!!!!!

    Correct Martin.

    It is however misleading to refer to them as concerned with public health.

    They are only concerned with the health effects of Covid, not cancer or mental health, or any of the other issues that fall under the public health umbrella


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    #3566
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Strumms wrote: »
    In WW2 in London, there were restrictions, about when people could be out and about, their behaviors, things like blackout curtains, curfews, rations etc".

    This is a health war, people are dying.

    Like in any war, or time of unprecedented difficulty, people are as individuals and as a collective, being expected to do the right thing. People have as a result of the situation we find ourselves in been delegated responsibilities and had to endure restrictions. They need to suck it up, quit their needy, greedy, fûcking asswipe ‘all about me’ whining and behave. DO their part. Not too much for six weeks, in the middle of a deadly pandemic to ask and expect behavior suitable to the situation we find ourselves .

    Thankfully i’m lucky enough that the “ lockdown” won’t really affect me at all. Due to my work i can travel 1k a week, 5km doesn’t apply to me. I can have the household social bubble with my partner. At night I can still have my glass of vino while watching the tv, the moggy beside me.

    The main thing i miss is travelling to family in the USA. Hopefully upcoming vaccines just might change that.


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    #3567
    Whatsisname
    Registered Users Posts: 5,653 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    Tubridy reckons if we behave people can come from the US for Christmas.



    Great, they can come home and bring covid with them, party at loads of different houses at christmas, then fcuk off back to american in january leaving us to deal with the fallout.

    This is the kinda attitude that puts me off flying home for Christmas from the UK. Everyone was quick to blame anyone who flew into the country back in March and you had dickheads like Gemma O'Doherty confronting people who dared to fly home and it'll be the same come January.


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    #3568
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Legislation was searched and provided with a 2 minute search. A simple google of ‘Garda powers licences premised Ireland legislation gave a number 1 hit. Most newspapers reported it and editorial was in print and online.

    Citizens information office had online and easy to find. A call to them would have had it within seconds.

    The VFI and LVA had it front and centre. Law society gazette had it.

    The police would assist if contacted, your solicitor (never heard of a pub without one) would provide it free of charge.

    Your accountant would requested legal updates from their accredited body.

    Local TD..1 minute.
    In fact finding a revenue contact who would deal in criminal law and had a direct email would be the slowest and most bizarre way of going about it. If you were closed down for example having an unsafe work environment or for permitting criminal acts to be undertaken, would you send an email to revenue without do anything else?

    Oh I agree. If he really did not know the legislation he could find it in 2 seconds. I be wondering did he really mail Revenue. Though I do work in Revenue and deal with post and some of the crap send to them I would not be surprised if they did


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    #3569
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice.

    Might run a hot bath with bubbles as well

    Enjoy:D


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    #3570
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Correct Martin.

    It is however misleading to refer to them as concerned with public health.

    They are only concerned with the health effects of Covid, not cancer or mental health, or any of the other issues that fall under the public health umbrella

    Yes that is why we have a government to make the ultimate decision. You know the 1 people were celebrating 2 weeks ago for showing them who rules. I suppose they need a big bad to help them through this which is fair enough


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    #3571
    Penfailed
    Registered Users Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    galway_cowboy wrote: »
    It's all a big laugh



    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1020/1172624-covid-lee-analysis/

    Hmm, it's almost like lockdown's don't make a difference and you as a society have to learn to live with the disease...

    You quote where lockdown does make a difference and then draw the conclusion that they don't...?! There's no doubting that they make a difference...when it's in place. The issue is that once you come out of it, numbers rise. It's a balancing act.

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