Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Lundstram

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My son came home from LIT last night. He lives in the student village with two other lads. Each with their own room. The guys have pretty much only stayed in each others company since college started. They went to the shop near their accommodation to buy a few bottles on Tuesday evening. They were challenged in the shop by an elderly female customer as to how dare they have a party and spreading the virus. My son unlike me is a reasonable lad. He explained he and his two friends live in accommodation together and were buying a few bottles to drink while watching a movie. Her response was that's crap ye are having a party. Whereas my reasonable son told her "to **** off and mind her own business". Btw they really were going back their rooms to watch a movie.
The young are the convenient Scape Goat for many groups in society the government and HSE to name two. It's rather pathetic and distrubing.

Well done to your son for telling her to fcuk off. The curtain twitchers are having a field day.

Really feel for the 13-25 age group during all this. They have been ridiculed and had their lives turned upside down for something that won’t affect them in the slightest.

They are our future.

darconio

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Mmmm...

It's thanks to the flu jab from last year, ah no it's thanks to the lockdown...ah no it's thanks to the face covering.. ah no....

:pac:

Lundstram

Lundstram wrote: »

Realism.

Lockdown merchants think a vaccine will appear out of nowhere? Doesn’t work like that.

Never in history as a pandemic been defeated by herd immunity without a vaccine - realism yourself.

drunkmonkey

Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »

Never in the history as a pandemic been defeated by herd immunity without a vaccine - realism yourself.

The Vaccine business only started in 1796, herd immunity all the way until then.

Lundstram

Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »

Never in the history as a pandemic been defeated by herd immunity without a vaccine - realism yourself.

Last pandemic was over 100 years ago and was eradicated through herd immunity. They might have not known at the time but that’s how it died out.

There was no vaccine.

Keep on living in dreamland.

Plumbthedepths

Lundstram wrote: »

Well done to your son for telling her to fcuk off. The curtain twitchers are having a field day.

Really feel for the 13-25 age group during all this. They have been ridiculed and had their lives turned upside down for something that won’t affect them in the slightest.

They are our future.

He's aware it most likely won't affect him but is doing his bit not to get it as he doesn't want to bring it home or to his grandparents. He and his peers don't need the blame levelled at them when the government and government agencies get a free pass over their incompetence.

PTH2009

Going by the social media were definitely moving too level 5

One newspaper had a 'what will level 5 be like'

Lundstram

Lundstram wrote: »

Last pandemic was over 100 years ago and was eradicated through herd immunity. They might have not known at the time but that’s how it died out.

There was no vaccine.

Keep on living in dreamland.

From the WHO

"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," he said.

"Never in the history of public health has herd immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak, let alone a pandemic."

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

Going by the social media were definitely moving too level 5

One newspaper had a 'what will level 5 be like'

Were you asleep 2 weeks ago when we went through this exact same thing......

Stop scare mongering, log out of Facebook and go for a walk, you'll feel better.

Whatsisname

Lundstram wrote: »

Last pandemic was over 100 years ago and was eradicated through herd immunity. They might have not known at the time but that’s how it died out.

There was no vaccine.

Keep on living in dreamland.

Last pandemic was 11 years ago tbf. Tho I suspect everyones forgotten it because social media wasn't as rampant in 2009.

Lundstram

Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »

From the WHO

Hahaha is this the same WHO who failed spectacularly at letting this virus escape from Chine? The same WHO who down-played this virus all the way back in December 2019?

Hahaha! Noxy, you never fail to make me laugh.

Stormyteacup

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The Vaccine business only started in 1796, herd immunity all the way until then.

Yes the line that never has herd immunity been achieved without a vaccine is trotted out increasingly often at the moment.

Are people confusing eradication with herd immunity? Herd immunity does not mean the disease isn’t still around and people will still come into contact with it, and some sadly die.

Herd immunity with a vaccine push is the ideal, but herd immunity/protection without a vaccine is a fact in nature historically.

Lundstram

Whatsisname wrote: »

Last pandemic was 11 years ago tbf. Tho I suspect everyones forgotten it because social media wasn't as rampant in 2009.

Get yourself a dictionary and look up the word pandemic.

Plumbthedepths

PTH2009 wrote: »

Going by the social media were definitely moving too level 5

One newspaper had a 'what will level 5 be like'

According to clowns on SM the army is being placed on stand by. Gob****es one and all

Whatsisname

Lundstram wrote: »

Get yourself a dictionary and look up the word pandemic.

Hmm..

pandemic
/panˈdɛmɪk/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
(of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.

"Swine flu" was the popular name for the virus which was responsible for a global flu outbreak (called a pandemic) in 2009 to 2010. It's a type of seasonal flu and is now included in the annual flu vaccine.

On 10 August 2010, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the pandemic officially over.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/swine-flu/

Might wanna update your dictionary there.

Bring on level 5. We’ll all be much better off when we finally learn that restrictions/lockdowns don’t work. And government/NPHET are slow learners.

PS: Why is nobody talking about the tiny death rate?

Originally we wanted to prevent deaths when we thought 250000 could die. Now we are just trying to prevent cases, even if nearly all have no symptoms. It’s frankly bizarre.

Rrrrrr2

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

According to clowns on SM the army is being placed in stand by. Gob****es one and all

Ah the aul yarn from March being regurgitated. And what exactly are they going to do? Standing around looking at eachother parying a virus away. becuasue that's about the height of their usefulness.
I remember i got a whatsapp from a friend in the Health Service about that rubbish back in march- the paranoia is even worse with them sometimes which would explain a lot of the way Nphet and co carry on.

funnydoggy

I'd love to be in those WhatsApp or Facebook groups that have people spreading rumours like the army is coming etc.

It would be entertaining if anything

Rrrrrr2

Deleted User wrote: »

Bring on level 5. We’ll all be much better off when we finally learn that restrictions/lockdowns don’t work. And government/NPHET are slow learners.

PS: Why is nobody talking about the tiny death rate?

Originally we wanted to prevent deaths when we thought 250000 could die. Now we are just trying to prevent cases, even if nearly all have no symptoms. It’s frankly bizarre.

Yes i tend to agree- we all know it'll fail and fall flat on its arse yet again

charlie14

rusty cole wrote: »

At the end of the day it's a disease, like cancer and like diabetes
some are cause by lifestyle and other have a myriad of causes BUT they are all diseases. heart disease kills over 100 people in the USA every HOUR!!!

My point is, they are ALL diseases and deserve treatment.The treatment for this is adding to the requirement for cancer treatment, depression, anxiety disorders etc etc, all diseases...

It is not a disease.
It is a virus that can cause a worsening of a disease.


Of course it is adding to healthcare problems for hospitals because of the high risk value of it to those in hospital with diseases.
Cancer, diabetes, depression anxiety disorders all of which you mentioned are not infectious. Covid-19 is.
The simple answer as to treating all those, other than Covid-19, as before in hospitals is to keep Covid-19 infections from rising to a level where they effect other treatments in hospitals.

RobitTV

Is it just me or has the virus turned a large number of people into absolute ****ing fanatics.

I genuinely believe things will never be the same again because of this fanatical thought process.

Multipass

I haven’t really been following the news, but I’m just back from the supermarket. Are we panic buying again now? Shelves were empty. I missed the memo...

topper75

Multipass wrote: »

I haven’t really been following the news, but I’m just back from the supermarket. Are we panic buying again now? Shelves were empty. I missed the memo...

I think the shelf stackers were given a work from home memo by mistake.

Mr Velo

RobitTV wrote: »

Is it just me or has the virus turned a large number of people into absolute ****ing fanatics.

I genuinely believe things will never be the same again because of this fanatical thought process.

Agreed - hard not to think that the world as we knew it is screwed.

SNNUS

Let the COVID fog brains have their lockdown, after this lock down sure COVID will be gone and won't ever surge again... Who is to blame for the sh#t health care system? Of course the public are and the COVID fog brains buy it ..

Zebra3

charlie14 wrote: »

The simple answer as to treating all those, other than Covid-19, as before in hospitals is to keep Covid-19 infections from rising to a level where they effect other treatments in hospitals.

The simple answer?

Like what is going on now?

Jorge Limited Maze

Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »

Never in history as a pandemic been defeated by herd immunity without a vaccine - realism yourself.

remind me again, which Vaccine was it they use against 1918 Flu that killed 50-100 million?? or what did they use against the the plague in the middle ages that killed one third of Europe??

Here's a concept you need to grasp with both hands... many viruses just up and disappear as mysteriously as the cases of infection that NEPHET cannot seem to trace!!!! people die from it, that's history..we've been using every available finger to plug the holes and the dam has burst..we've done more than anyone could in the first lockdown and look where we are just after the schools went back...and guess what, the villainized pubs never got to blow the dust off the floor!

stop looking for excused to buy new oversize T shirts NOXY!

weldoninhio

Mr Velo wrote: »

Agreed - hard not to think that the world as we knew it is screwed.

It's like the newest religion

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Bring on level 5. We’ll all be much better off when we finally learn that restrictions/lockdowns don’t work. And government/NPHET are slow learners.

PS: Why is nobody talking about the tiny death rate?

Originally we wanted to prevent deaths when we thought 250000 could die. Now we are just trying to prevent cases, even if nearly all have no symptoms. It’s frankly bizarre.

Originally we accepted there would be deaths, but wanted to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed with those inflicted with the disease.


Now, we're just having two parties (nphet and govt) arguing with each other. One wants the lockdown, the other one agrees, but doesn't want to pay for it.

Rrrrrr2

RobitTV wrote: »

Is it just me or has the virus turned a large number of people into absolute ****ing fanatics.

I genuinely believe things will never be the same again because of this fanatical thought process.

Yes very much so. And there’s people I’d never view the same way either- it’s clear a huge proportion would throw their grannies off a cliff just “to be safe”