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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • #202
    xabi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭xabi


    Benimar wrote: »
    As somebody who can't stand Leo, I have to say he's correct here!

    The day starts at 0:00 and ends at 23:29

    What happens between 23:29 and 00:00?


  • #203
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    If i book a hotel from Wednesday night through to Monday, will i be okay, can we still use hotel facilities, bar open etc?

    Thanks in advance


  • #204
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Hold firm Fungie.

    We're sending the Navy to come get you buddy.


  • #205
    podgeandrodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    If i book a hotel from Wednesday night through to Monday, will i be okay, can we still use hotel facilities, bar open etc?

    Thanks in advance

    You should be I think. Unless the hotel has decided that staying open for just "existing guests" and essential travellers is not worth it. They might not want to take on a tiny amount of new bookings and keep the hotel open.


  • #206
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    xabi wrote: »
    What happens between 23:29 and 00:00?

    A purge, you can do whatever the **** you want.


  • #207
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    6 weeks.....? Does it really need to be six weeks?

    I loved how MM, said 'just 6 weeks'

    That is a hell of a long time to live under such draconian measures.
    NPHET are looking at this with a medium-term view of rolling lockdowns.

    A three week lockdown would buy us (say) 4-5 weeks before we have to lock down again. A six week lockdown will buy us 8-10 weeks.

    That's NPHET's aim. The "living with COVID" thing is not part of their strategy.


  • #208
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    The creche asked this morning if my eldest will be attending afterschool as they've heard there has been a positive case in his class. First I heard of it. Am I wrong in sending him, what are we to do, turn our lives upside down for every rumor?


  • #209
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Varadkar and Martin couldn’t even get the fcukin basics of the lockdown right then,like what day does it start.
    Looking over at each other then the 2 gombeens.
    A fcukin jokeshop of a setup


  • #210
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭prunudo


    babyboom wrote: »
    I don't get why people can't see the logic in shutting non essential retail. My daughter works in a shopping centre. It has been packed for at least the last month or more. People out for a day browsing, bringing their kids and letting them run amok in shops. She works in a book shop and she's had customers come in, browse with no intention of buying and then leave their empty coffee cups on top of the books. If she confronts them she gets abuse. There are far too many people who have just returned to normal. I find it very strange that we are in this (hopefully) once in a lifetime pandemic but people are determined to behave as if life is normal.

    It really shows the lack of thought by many in society, so many buisnesses and workers on the brink and all they care about is their skinny latte.
    Probably same people will be giving out about the new restrictions without realise the effects of their own behaviours.


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  • #211
    MarkY91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    If i book a hotel from Wednesday night through to Monday, will i be okay, can we still use hotel facilities, bar open etc?

    Thanks in advance

    It's supposed to be for essential reasons only, no?

    We have 2 nights this weekend in clayton hotel, cardiff lane but now have absolutely no idea if they're going to allow us to check in or not.


  • #212
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    seamus wrote: »
    NPHET are looking at this with a medium-term view of rolling lockdowns.

    A three week lockdown would buy us (say) 4-5 weeks before we have to lock down again. A six week lockdown will buy us 8-10 weeks.

    That's NPHET's aim. The "living with COVID" thing is not part of their strategy.
    Living with covid is a set of levels that can be applied as rolling lockdowns.


  • #213
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    xabi wrote: »
    What happens between 23:29 and 00:00?

    Its preferable not to feed a mogwai then


  • #214
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    gizmo23 wrote: »
    Are we ignoring the fact it was outside gaa ground these happened .... and when it happened inside ... what did the gaa do ?? CANCELLED ALL CLUB GAMES with immediate effect.

    Are we ignoring it's actually NPHET ( the public health experts who are beyond reproach) have said its grand lads continue the gaa.

    The people who took the piss "celebrating" a county title or whatever bs they did.. would have found a way be it pubs house parties or drinking in a park.

    The GAA had the opportunity to get the message across that these types of gatherings would not be tolerated. Potential fines/docked points or whatever for breaches.

    But they didn't.

    I agree that other sports should be stopped for the foreseeable. LoI has a mixture of professional and semi pro clubs, it's risky although not linked to outbreaks yet. Rugby probably not as risky but I'm not overly familiar with the structure.


  • #215
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭growleaves


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    You should be I think. Unless the hotel has decided that staying open for just "existing guests" and essential travellers is not worth it. They might not want to take on a tiny amount of new bookings and keep the hotel open.

    It is very difficult to cater to guests that don't exist.


  • #216
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    seamus wrote: »
    NPHET are looking at this with a medium-term view of rolling lockdowns.

    A three week lockdown would buy us (say) 4-5 weeks before we have to lock down again. A six week lockdown will buy us 8-10 weeks.

    That's NPHET's aim. The "living with COVID" thing is not part of their strategy.

    Is it though? Public health have been completely underfunded.
    Why was the health system scaled up.

    As I understand it they make recommendations.
    Then the government ignore them.
    Then when it's blindingly obvious they listen to them but by then it's too late to have the desired effect.

    Responsibility is governments. If they don't like NPHET's prognosis they can always get a second opinion much the same way you would with any medical issue.


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  • #217
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    political analyst wrote: »
    Given that the aftermath of this pandemic will be the economic equivalent of Armageddon, making the 2008 crisis look like a minor road-traffic collision, there might be severe cutbacks to the health service.

    Will the government still be as concerned with the lives of vulnerable people then? What will happen if a pandemic of a different virus takes place at that point - how will a health service subjected to cutbacks cope then?

    Don’t worry about it. Thank Gaia there is a plan in place, the great Reset a great stroke of luck that it existed just as Covid 19 came along. Our delegates would have heard all about it in Davos back in January from Klaus, good old Klaus, what a great guy.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/504499-introducing-the-great-reset-world-leaders-radical-plan-to%3famp

    Our experts, leaders and aristocrats will look after us, don’t worry.

    Even the jolly old Prince of Wales is on board..

    https://www.weforum.org/videos/great-reset-hrh-prince-of-wales-we-have-no-alternative


  • #218
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭mohawk


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Lots of non-essential retail can find a way to stay open, especially due to the click-and-collect clause in the text of essential retail

    That only works for businesses in cities and large towns. Smaller towns where most of your customers live outside the 5km zone it’s tough for them to survive. Same for coffee shops. You might be able to keep going in Dublin but a village... not a chance your customers live too far away.
    The 5km rule is very different in rural Ireland versus urban places.


  • #219
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    It's supposed to be for essential reasons only, no?

    We have 2 nights this weekend in clayton hotel, cardiff lane but now have absolutely no idea if they're going to allow us to check in or not.

    Yea if you check in thursday or friday i can see this but if we check in Wednesday we will be existing guests when the rules kick in.

    Just wondering if the facilities like bar and restaurant will be also open


  • #220
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    prunudo wrote: »
    It really shows the lack of thought by many in society, so many buisnesses and workers on the brink and all they care about is their skinny latte.
    Probably same people will be giving out about the new restrictions without realise the effects of their own behaviours.

    Without a shadow of a doubt. Just look at these threads, many of those giving out about the lockdown are the same ones who are against wearing masks, or going on pub crawls etc.


  • #221
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,611 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So schools were able to open because there was no wide spread community transmission.
    Level 5 is needed because of widespread community transmission.

    I really cannot see how they'll remain open as the critical mass of virus builds.

    DOE and Public Health are meeting with unions today I think.

    Pretty pertinent question that will need an answer.
    The government now has eight or nine days to convince me and to convince everyone in primary education and special schools that the shambolic approach of public health to the tracking, testing and surveillance of our sector is going to be sorted out before the first Monday in November


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  • #222
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    I hope its not true, but are there rumours/confirmations going about of people panic shopping AGAIN?


  • #223
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    circadian wrote: »
    The GAA had the opportunity to get the message across that these types of gatherings would not be tolerated. Potential fines/docked points or whatever for breaches.

    But they didn't.

    I agree that other sports should be stopped for the foreseeable. LoI has a mixture of professional and semi pro clubs, it's risky although not linked to outbreaks yet. Rugby probably not as risky but I'm not overly familiar with the structure.

    Docked points, its a championship. 2nd point, you want the gaa to fine clubs over something that happened outside of the club. They suspended everything after these stories came out, what more do you want them to do.


  • #224
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    That 56 case outbreak from the lad returning from abroad that didn't self isolate highlights the weakness at the borders and the ineffectiveness of the request (which is all it is) for 2 weeks restricted movements.

    I'd also be very wary of the timing of Fine Gaels video regarding the measure being confusing given the details of the 56 became available the following morning.

    And worst still, looks like nothing will be done about. Eamon Ryan saying he had a phone call with his counterparts in the UK and Germany. I mean this is the man's remit, and now on the 20th of October he is having a phone call with them. No details beyond that. Pathetic


    I’d like to see this “man” sounds like another scare tactic similar to the young doctor last week and the house party spreader before that.


  • #225
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Its the harshest lockdown in the world right now, what the **** are you on about.

    I'd love to see the proof of the harshest lockdown since there's places in Europe that you can't leave the house unless it's to go to the shop. There's curfews all sorts of much more draconian measures elsewhere.


  • #226
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    mohawk wrote: »
    That only works for businesses in cities and large towns. Smaller towns where most of your customers live outside the 5km zone it’s tough for them to survive. Same for coffee shops. You might be able to keep going in Dublin but a village... not a chance your customers live too far away.
    The 5km rule is very different in rural Ireland versus urban places.
    You can travel more than 5km to go shopping.
    circadian wrote: »
    I'd love to see the proof of the harshest lockdown since there's places in Europe that you can't leave the house unless it's to go to the shop. There's curfews all sorts of much more draconian measures elsewhere.
    Maybe at very regional levels, but we're the first country to return to a "stay at home, no visitors, 5km limit" regime.


  • #227
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Schools were able to remain open because the Government said they were going to keep them open.

    There's no point trying to apply logic to it.

    'MelbourneMan' explained it yesterday in the last thread.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114988730
    The GAA is not being 'allowed to continue', as you put it. Top level intercounty conpetition will continue. This excludes the other 99.7% of GAA membership. i.e. the GAA is being 99.7% closed.
    The closure of elements of society and the economy is predominantly determined by the cost of that closure, and not its contribution to virus transmission. The benefits of schools remaining open are deemed to greatly outweigh the benefits to virus suppression of closing them.
    SME are not being forced to close. gov.ie has the exhaustive list of services and retail that will remain open. This includes a very high number of SMEs.


  • #228
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    gmisk wrote: »
    Huh?! Why would the day end at 23.29?

    Because I have fat fingers that hit a 2 instead of a 5!


  • #229
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Everybody's head is wrecked with the new restrictions and contradictions arising. Why not just close the country down for the next 2 weeks starting next Monday? Short, hard lockdown. . The schools would only be closed for one extra week because of midterm. Non essentials would be closed for 2 weeks but only 2 weeks and not 6. People much more likely to follow a 2 week restriction than 6.

    This bull**** of close a lot but not all. Mental health is important so let certain G.A.A. games take place but no gym classes. Exercise is more important for mental health than looking at a game. Schools can open with 30 people plus per room but hairdressers can't open with 4. Weddings 25 and you can have your big party at any time later but funeral only 10 for the last goodbye for a person on this earth (not going to do a party 6 months later) Only 5k for exercise but no ban on flights or ferries or stopping traffic from the north.

    Some places spent a lot of money to comply with restrictions after last lockdown and it's like a kick in the face to them to close them again.


  • #230
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Its the harshest lockdown in the world right now, what the **** are you on about.

    I've noticed you curse a fair bit. Why so angry pal?


  • #231
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Varadkar and Martin couldn’t even get the fcukin basics of the lockdown right then,like what day does it start.
    Looking over at each other then the 2 gombeens.
    A fcukin jokeshop of a setup

    The cynic in my thinks Varadkar knows exactly what he's doing, just wants to distance himself from the FF plan and play the man of the people with the growing numbers who will be annoyed be what has been announced.


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  • #232
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,857 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    seamus wrote: »
    You can travel more than 5km to go shopping.

    Maybe at very regional levels, but we're the first country to return to a "stay at home, no visitors, 5km limit" regime.

    Or for any legitimate purpose within your county AFAIK. The 5K thing only applies to exercise no?


  • #233
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭mohawk


    seamus wrote: »
    NPHET are looking at this with a medium-term view of rolling lockdowns.

    A three week lockdown would buy us (say) 4-5 weeks before we have to lock down again. A six week lockdown will buy us 8-10 weeks.

    That's NPHET's aim. The "living with COVID" thing is not part of their strategy.

    To what purpose?? Why not follow example of Countries that were able to test, trace and isolate. Get to the cases fast to disrupt the spread. You do it right and you don’t have to shut down the entire country every few weeks. If they can introduce fines for people going over 5km then they can introduce them to force people to isolate.


  • #234
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Docked points, its a championship. 2nd point, you want the gaa to fine clubs over something that happened outside of the club. They suspended everything after these stories came out, what more do you want them to do.

    The clubs also play in leagues, no? It was pretty obvious this was going to happen. It would be well within the remit of the GAA to enforce something like that. After all the organisation is always trying to present itself as part of the community, a grassroots organisation. Maybe help guide the community instead of turning a blind eye.


  • #235
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    circadian wrote: »
    I'd love to see the proof of the harshest lockdown since there's places in Europe that you can't leave the house unless it's to go to the shop. There's curfews all sorts of much more draconian measures elsewhere.

    What country has a harsher lockdown, what country closed all retail.


  • #236
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What country has a harsher lockdown, what country closed all retail.

    We haven't closed all retail. In fact, the first lockdown we had was much harsher. We've closed non essential retail. Pharmacies, supermarkets, corner shops, DIY shops amongst others are still operating.


  • #237
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    I've noticed you curse a fair bit. Why so angry pal?

    Because the whole country is in lockdown and its depressing as **** with huge ramifications for my family. Its easy smile away when this has no affect on you.


  • #238
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,857 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    mollser wrote: »
    GAA celebrations seem to be the main driver of this nationwide

    A tad hyperbolic perhaps?


  • #239
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭mohawk


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Or for any legitimate purpose within your county AFAIK. The 5K thing only applies to exercise no?

    Shopping isn’t on the list of things you can go beyond the 5km for. Now obviously grocery shopping should be grand but driving to your local town for click and collect of something non-essential your definitely in a grey area until they clarify it further.


  • #240
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    mohawk wrote: »
    Shopping isn’t on the list of things you can go beyond the 5km for. Now obviously grocery shopping should be grand but driving to your local town for click and collect of something non-essential your definitely in a grey area until they clarify it further.
    Needs clarification? Non-essential, don't get it.


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  • #241
    nimrod86
    Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭nimrod86


    RTE Radio 1 were just playing interviews with queues outside Penny's in Dublin City Centre - people there since 4am to get in and stock up on PJ's and Dressing gowns for christmas...


  • #242
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    circadian wrote: »
    The clubs also play in leagues, no? It was pretty obvious this was going to happen. It would be well within the remit of the GAA to enforce something like that. After all the organisation is always trying to present itself as part of the community, a grassroots organisation. Maybe help guide the community instead of turning a blind eye.

    Leagues don't matter in club, but again they didn't turn a blind eye, they suspended all games. As someone already pointed out they have stopped 99.7% of all gaa activities.


  • #243
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    mohawk wrote: »
    Shopping isn’t on the list of things you can go beyond the 5km for. Now obviously grocery shopping should be grand but driving to your local town for click and collect of something non-essential your definitely in a grey area until they clarify it further.

    Who is to say what is non essential or not? What the hell is wrong with click and collect? We need to give business every chance to survive.


  • #244
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    A tad hyperbolic perhaps?


    A tad, not completely untrue but the numbers were already rising before most of these celebrations. I think those gatherings increased the pace of spread rather than caused the increase in numbers initially. There's a whole range of complex reasons why it's increasing across the country but those areas with celebrations have definitely seen a sharp rise within the 2 weeks after.


    See below;
    Numbers on 15th October



    Football;
    County|Date|LEA|14 day rate per 100k
    Meath|4th October|Ratoath|141.1
    Cavan|3rd October|Ballyjamesduff|147.3
    Galway|4th October|Conamara South|28.1
    Tipperary|27th September|Clonmel|41.1
    Kildare|4th October|Athy|82.9
    Dublin|17th September|Dún Laoghaire|124.9

    Hurling;
    County|Date|LEA|14 day rate per 100k
    Clare|27th September|Shannon|98.7
    Cork|4th October|Cork City South-East|93.5
    Galway|4th October|Gort|102.1
    Kilkenny|27th September|Callan|35.5
    Limerick|20th September|Limerick City North|138.3
    Tipperary|20th September|Roscrea|48.2
    Waterford|30th August|Waterford City East|21.8
    Wexford|23 August|Wexford|17.2




    Numbers on 16th October


    Football;
    County|Date|LEA|14 day rate per 100k
    Meath|4th October|Ratoath|375.2
    Cavan|3rd October|Ballyjamesduff|651.1
    Galway|4th October|Conamara South|112.5
    Tipperary|27th September|Clonmel|45.2
    Kildare|4th October|Athy|128.1
    Dublin|17th September|Dún Laoghaire|103.3
    Hurling;
    County|Date|LEA|14 day rate per 100k
    Clare|27th September|Shannon|365.2
    Cork|4th October|Cork City South-East|231.4
    Galway|4th October|Gort|97.9
    Kilkenny|27th September|Callan|114.4
    Limerick|20th September|Limerick City North|227.6
    Tipperary|20th September|Roscrea|120.5
    Waterford|30th August|Waterford City East|56.6
    Wexford|23 August|Wexford|20.6


    LEA based confirmed cases can be found here https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/ although it doesn't seem to have been updated recently.


  • #245
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    People with preconceived notions against the GAA are using this as an opportunity to bash the GAA.

    And there also the likes of the below which appears to be based on nothing only jealousy that top level sports are permitted to go ahead.
    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    It should have all been stopped.if we have to stay home and obey another lockdown so should they.
    It should be across the board or as the paddywhackers say “we are all in this together”.
    Yesterday was a farce.

    The people making the decisions have the relevant information to hand. If matches/races/etc were causing a major problem they'd have stopped them. They obviously are not causing a major problem and OTOH it's hugely important to a huge part of the population to have some small bit of the entertainment and enjoyment provided by live sports and distraction in a very bleak time.


  • #246
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭prunudo


    nimrod86 wrote: »
    RTE Radio 1 were just playing interviews with queues outside Penny's in Dublin City Centre - people there since 4am to get in and stock up on PJ's and Dressing gowns for christmas...

    And it will be the same the day they re open. Amazing that neither the government nor nphet seem to realise they are causing a higher density of people in enclosed spaces.


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  • #247
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    nimrod86 wrote: »
    RTE Radio 1 were just playing interviews with queues outside Penny's in Dublin City Centre - people there since 4am to get in and stock up on PJ's and Dressing gowns for christmas...

    The queue for Smyths in Tallaght is all the way around the car park since early


  • #248
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Stay at home.

    Exercise within 5 kilometres of home.

    There will be a penalty for movement outside 5 kilometres of home, with the following exceptions:

    •travel to and from work, where work involves providing an essential service
    •to attend medical appointments and collect medicines and other health products
    •travel to attend disability day services
    •for food shopping
    •for vital family reasons, such as providing care to children, elderly or vulnerable people, and in particular for those who live alone but excluding social family visits
    •for farming purposes, that is food production or care of animals
    •to attend a wedding or funeral
    •to visit a grave

    Click and collect PJs from penneys?


  • #249
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    KathleenGrant wrote: »
    Everybody's head is wrecked with the new restrictions and contradictions arising. Why not just close the country down for the next 2 weeks starting next Monday? Short, hard lockdown. . The schools would only be closed for one extra week because of midterm. Non essentials would be closed for 2 weeks but only 2 weeks and not 6. People much more likely to follow a 2 week restriction than 6.

    This bull**** of close a lot but not all. Mental health is important so let certain G.A.A. games take place but no gym classes. Exercise is more important for mental health than looking at a game. Schools can open with 30 people plus per room but hairdressers can't open with 4. Weddings 25 and you can have your big party at any time later but funeral only 10 for the last goodbye for a person on this earth (not going to do a party 6 months later) Only 5k for exercise but no ban on flights or ferries or stopping traffic from the north.

    Some places spent a lot of money to comply with restrictions after last lockdown and it's like a kick in the face to them to close them again.




    I don't disagree that it's tough on small businesses. I'd much rather they could stay open and trade but that clearly isn't working due to a significant cohort of the population not working with everyone else by following very simple guidelines.


  • #250
    Maxpfizer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer


    cherryghost wrote: »
    I hope its not true, but are there rumours/confirmations going about of people panic shopping AGAIN?

    Would this really be that surprising?

    "We're going to close ALL non-essential retail for 6 weeks starting the day after tomorrow."

    Across the entire country there's going to be plenty of folk who had plans for things or who need to buy things or who aren't 100% sure on what "non-essential" is going to apply to.

    6 weeks is a decent amount of time for shops to be closed. Especially as we move on into colder weather etc.

    Plus, the government advice is pretty much stay at home.
    So many would be thinking OK I need 6 weeks worth of groceries.

    "The virus is really dangerous. Stay at home for 6 weeks."
    Oh well I'd better get out now and stock up on 6 weeks worth of stuff.
    "No no no you can go and get shopping every few days!"

    Right so the virus is so dangerous that ALL retail needs to be shut for 6 weeks but not so dangerous that I can't go to the supermarket every other day?


  • #251
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    mohawk wrote: »
    Shopping isn’t on the list of things you can go beyond the 5km for. Now obviously grocery shopping should be grand but driving to your local town for click and collect of something non-essential your definitely in a grey area until they clarify it further.

    Shopping is on the list of things you can go beyond 5km for.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/level5/#domestic-travel-restrictions


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