"Irish" tourists dump rubbish on NZ beach, threaten locals

Franz Von Peppercorn · 14-01-2019 9:43pm

Sonic Youth wrote: »

Can't you educate me? How can you be racist against people with the same skin colour?

To be fair Hitler was.

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 9:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

As somebody who is frequently an Irish traveller, I'd like to introduce many people to the significance of a capital letter: they are Irish Travellers.

Irish Travellers

Filthy and violent people should be prosecuted under the laws against filth and violence.

Like the RA?

Franz Von Peppercorn · 14-01-2019 9:44pm

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Just returned from 3 weeks travelling in NZ. A pristine country. They take immense pride in their country and natural beauty with people taking personal responsibility for dealing with their rubbish. We could learn from them here - people of all sections of society treat our country as a pig sty and are happy to export this behaviour

It’s not all of society but far too many people.

Sonic Youth · 14-01-2019 9:47pm

All the want, apparently, is to be treated like everyone else. So why do they spaz out when they're asked to behave like everyone else?

no.8 · 14-01-2019 9:52pm

Boom_Bap wrote:

You got to respect the set of stones on that youngfella.

I respect nothing about him. Toerags is what they are

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 9:54pm

Sonic Youth wrote: »

Can't you educate me? How can you be racist against people with the same skin colour?

Nope. As I said have a read.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:07pm

Sonic Youth wrote: »

All the want, apparently, is to be treated like everyone else. So why do they spaz out when they're asked to behave like everyone else?

Because they are as arrogant as they are entitled

Being serious for a minute, travellers ( like some other cultures) are an "honour" culture

They view being corrected or taken to task about anything as a terrible slight, you see it with the tinker John connors on twitter, the time he proudly declared the criminals who took a JCB to a lidl store, were right and how he wouldn't report them, Connors doubled down when asked to retract, he made a point of insisting an apology would never happen

This is why even amongst themselves, feuds spring up over small things and last often for generations, they Never back down!

They are a people for whom values of the enlightenment are completely alien, a savage people, much like pirates of centuries ago, everything must be on their terms, they absolutely will not adhere to rules society or government mean to enforce, that is their nature and way, they have absolutely no interest in conforming to the norms in either Ireland or New Zealand, if they end up in prison because of it, that's just how life is which is a huge tragedy for everyone

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:13pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Because they are as arrogant as they are entitled

Being serious for a minute, travellers ( like some other cultures) are an "honour" culture

They view being corrected or taken to task about anything as a terrible slight, you see it with the tinker John connors on twitter, the time he proudly declared the criminals who took a JCB to a lidl store, were right and how he wouldn't report them, Connors doubled down when asked to retract, he made a point of insisting an apology would never happen

This is why even amongst themselves, feuds spring up over small things and last often for generations, they Never back down!

They are a people for whom values of the enlightenment are completely alien, a savage people, much like pirates of centuries ago, everything must be on their terms, they absolutely will not adhere to rules society or government mean to enforce, that is their nature and way, they have absolutely no interest in conforming to the norms in either Ireland or New Zealand, if they end up in prison because of it, that's just how life is which is a huge tragedy for everyone

One thing I would concede. John Connors is a twat alright.
I do have issues with the rest of your post but at least you posted it in a somewhat respectful way. Fair play.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:16pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

One thing I would concede. John Connors is a twat alright.

Professional grievance monger

He is reflective of most from his community

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:20pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Professional grievance monger

He is reflective of most from his community

Agree.

Disagree. A high proportion(relevantly speaking), yes, but not most.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:24pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

Agree.

Disagree. A high proportion(relevantly speaking), yes, but not most.

I'd happily take in a million syrians and take one into my own home if turkey or someone took the tinkers, put them in a desert and let them scavage around ala mad max

backspin. · 14-01-2019 10:24pm

Berserker wrote: »

What small section of society? The beaches here in Ireland are left in an appalling state during the summer months. Dirty lazy fckers won't put their own rubbish in a bin or bring it home with them.

I believe Northerners are very bad for it in Donegal. They go to the beaches and leave their rubbish behind. They buy nothing in the locality too. They buy their food, drink whatever in the north then come in to Donegal, have their fun and leave their rubbish for our taxpayer funded authorities to clean up.

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:27pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I'd happily take in a million syrians and take one into my own home if turkey or someone took the tinkers, put them in a desert and let them scavage around ala mad max

And there was me thinking you were going to make your points respectfully.
But no. A vile racist you are. Sleep well.

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Take your head out of the manure pile.

No need for that type of language my racist friend.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:29pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

And there was me thinking you were going to make your points respectfully.
But no. A vile racist you are. Sleep well.

I sleep like a baby

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:31pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I sleep like a baby

Ah, that explains your posting style.
Thought there was an age limit around here?

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:32pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

Ah, that explains your posting style.
Thought there was an age limit around here?

Apparently not, you should bring it up at the next PBP meeting

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:36pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Apparently not, you should bring it up at the next PBP meeting

Nah, wouldn’t be bothered with that shower of fools.
You see, you don’t have to be a left wing populist to hate racists you know.

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:38pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You're an avowed enemy of common sense. Label away, if cogent argument fails you.

The irony.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:39pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

Nah, wouldn’t e bothered with that shower of fools.
You see, you don’t have to be a left wing populist to hate racists you know.

What other kind are there but populist?

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:40pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

What other kind are there but populist?

But sure isn’t racism populist now.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:43pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

But sure isn’t racism populist now.

You referred to left wing populist "fools"

Which non populist platform do you support, your handle is clearly political

14-01-2019 10:44pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

But sure isn’t racism populist now.

You trot out 'racism/racist' ad nauseam without bothering to justify, that about sums up the shallow level of your thought process.

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:45pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

You referred to left wing populist "fools"

Which non populist platform do you support, your handle is clearly political

None. Just despise racists. And that doesn’t seem to sit well around here.

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:52pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You trot out 'racism/racist' ad nauseam without bothering to justify, that about sums up the shallow level of your thought process.

I saying it the way I see it.
Doesn’t need justification. And good god how the rest of your post is ironic but completely consistent.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 10:54pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

None. Just despise racists. And that doesn’t seem to sit well around here.

Your manifesto could be written on a mouses fag box

Franz Von Peppercorn · 14-01-2019 10:57pm

Anyway. Rubbish on beaches? We agin it or not?

14-01-2019 10:57pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

I saying it the way I see it.
Doesn’t need justification. And good god how the rest of your post is ironic but completely consistent.

Yes, it does. Otherwise you seem rather juvenile, resorting to petty name-calling and little else.

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 10:59pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Your manifesto could be written on a mouses fag box

Ah when you have to stoop to insults there is no point in engaging.
Pity, I had high hope for you, I really did. I thought I could save you, but, alas, you are too far gone.

On a different note do you need your driveway done?

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 11:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, it does. Otherwise you seem rather juvenile, resorting to petty name-calling and little else.

Petty name calling, really?
Jesus man read the bloody thread. You’re a hoot!!

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 11:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, it does. Otherwise you seem rather juvenile, resorting to petty name-calling and little else.

Five years ago, all these points referring to travellers would still apply accurately yet because government had not granted ethnic status at that point, the racist label would carry no weight, goes to show how dangerous granting official status like this is, it ring fences certain groups from criticism

Next step will be to make it a crime to complain about travellers, this new UN policy document is designed specifically to make criticism of migration an offence, it's all part of the same thing and perhaps worst of all empowers feeble intellectuals like our buddy here ( who throws around the R word) a new found authority

Working class heroes · 14-01-2019 11:03pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Anyway. Rubbish on beaches? We agin it or not?

Definitely against, especially plastic.

Iwouldinmesack · 14-01-2019 11:05pm

Doubt they would be so quick to act like that if it was the Maoris requesting them to tidy up.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 11:06pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

Ah when you have to stoop to insults there is no point in engaging.
Pity, I had high hope for you, I really did. I thought I could save you, but, alas, you are too far gone.

On a different note do you need your driveway done?

Now who's being ironic, you've branded all in sundry wacist

14-01-2019 11:37pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I'd happily take in a million syrians and take one into my own home if turkey or someone took the tinkers, put them in a desert and let them scavage around ala mad max

Hmmm.

Mrs OBumble · 14-01-2019 11:42pm

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

It's front page news in Nz according to a friend living over there.

It's summer holiday time. Everyone who makes anything interesting happen is away. News editors are grateful for anything to fill up the page space with.

jmreire · 14-01-2019 11:49pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It's summer holiday time. Everyone who makes anything interesting happen is away. News editors are grateful for anything to fill up the page space with.

More like it's a warning....beware travelling Irish Roof Repairers.

nice_guy80 · 15-01-2019 12:20am

Have yet to see a litter warden on a beach in Ireland on a sunny day

Sonic Youth · 15-01-2019 12:54am

Working class heroes wrote: »

None. Just despise racists. And that doesn’t seem to sit well around here.

Travellers are white and as such cannot be victims of racism, as racism = power and privilege.

For example, if a traveller was pulled over by a cop in a America there would be no hassle. However, if the same cop pulled over a POC (person of colour) he would automatically assume the driver was a car thief or drug, just because of skin colour.

patrickbrophy18 · 15-01-2019 1:03am

It really makes me embarrassed to be Irish when I hear of these rodents creating unrest abroad and littering other countries (in this case, New Zealand).

Sadly, there are far too many people in this country who are quick to defend their primitive actions. Then again, the oversupply of compassion in this country has resulted in the normalisation of this stagnant behaviour.

In other words, because we let people away with so much here, it opens up the floodgates to a barrage of crime where our standards (or rather lack there of) have now spilt over to a foreign nation.

Do we really want to develop a reputation for being a filthy country worldwide?

When people from this country go abroad, I expect them to represent our country in a positive light.

Sonic Youth · 15-01-2019 1:21am

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

It really makes me embarrassed to be Irish when I hear of these rodents creating unrest abroad and littering other countries (in this case, New Zealand).

Sadly, there are far too many people in this country who are quick to defend their primitive actions. Then again, the oversupply of compassion in this country has resulted in the normalisation of this stagnant behaviour.

In other words, because we let people away with so much here, it opens up the floodgates to a barrage of crime where our standards (or rather lack there of) have now spilt over to a foreign nation.

Do we really want to develop a reputation for being a filthy country worldwide?

When people from this country go abroad, I expect them to represent our country in a positive light.

I would say many foreigners who hate the Irish do so because they had bad experiences with travellers and think we're all like that.

Graces7 · 15-01-2019 7:16am

ednwireland wrote: »

Just done a beach cleanup on saturday in the northwest. 15 bags of rubbish. Not just a certain culture that won't take it home with them.

scapegoating..."blame it on the bunny" type

ChikiChiki · 15-01-2019 8:13am

What a shower of filthy knackers. Not impressed at all to see a headline on one of the online papers saying "Go back to Ireland".

Seems every few months there is something in the press relating to Irish people abroad up to no good whether its murders, stabbings or robbing. These headlines including the nationailty are putting a racial bias in people minds.

justshane · 15-01-2019 8:16am

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109940444/rude-travelling-family-cause-police-call-out-to-hamilton-burger-king

Andddd they got served wth a deportation notice.

Mrs OBumble · 15-01-2019 9:04am

Sonic Youth wrote: »

Travellers are white and as such cannot be victims of racism, as racism = power and privilege.

For example, if a traveller was pulled over by a cop in a America there would be no hassle. However, if the same cop pulled over a POC (person of colour) he would automatically assume the driver was a car thief or drug, just because of skin colour.

So eastern European people in Ireland can never experience racism then?

Haaaaaaa.

Racism is duscrimination based on race. Colour is one of the most visible indicators of race. But accent is another widely used indicator.

Patrick2010 · 15-01-2019 9:09am

Graces7 wrote: »

scapegoating..."blame it on the bunny" type

What does that mean??

TomSweeney · 15-01-2019 9:27am

So are they living there or on holiday ?

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 9:33am

justshane wrote: »

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109940444/rude-travelling-family-cause-police-call-out-to-hamilton-burger-king

Andddd they got served wth a deportation notice.

They must be shocked at that - all they were doing was littering beaches, threatening random strangers, ignoring the rules of the road, disrupting businesses, and intimidating staff - all the stuff that they normally do here without any consequences.

Sonic Youth · 15-01-2019 9:40am

justshane wrote: »

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109940444/rude-travelling-family-cause-police-call-out-to-hamilton-burger-king

Andddd they got served wth a deportation notice.

I feel conflicted on this tbh. I strongly believe countries should have the right to deport foreign scumbags but other hand it means these idiots will soon be back here.

Omackeral · 15-01-2019 10:09am

Graces7 wrote: »

scapegoating..."blame it on the bunny" type

Patrick2010 wrote: »

What does that mean??

Grace reckons that Travellers are basically our version of the Amish people so could be something to do with that?

"Irish" tourists dump rubbish on NZ beach, threaten locals

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