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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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    #1352
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    We have well and truly crushed the curve. Testing increased 3 fold this week and case numbers are this low. Fantastic stuff.

    Yeah, a lot of the increased testing probably down to nursing homes. The last time they were being tested, there was an increase in the daily cases, but we all knew it was down to targeted testing in the nursing homes. Thankfully, we’re not seeing such an increase this time around. Great to see!


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    #1353
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Deleted User wrote: »
    There is no published science that provides quantatitive or qualitative data identifying the advantage of mandatory mask wearing in all circumstances over other measures. Those countries that introduced mandatory mask wearing also reacted very early, so we cannot identify which had the significant impact. Plus Denmark were just as successful. We have also crushed the curve to a far greater extent than some of these places, and over counted deaths to a huge extent, confirmed by our former Taoiseach. Masks are and remain a useful control for public transport and indoor locations where social distancing cannot be applied or extended exposure is possible. But as a mandatory measure in all circumstances the evidence is mixed at best.

    Masks are the equivalent of Homer Simpson's anti-tiger rock. P.S. Homer's rock may have had special powers.


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    #1354
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Seven Septs wrote: »
    I'm off now with my thread ban. It's been fun Covid freaks :D

    You can take a week away from the Covid forum

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



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    #1355
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Similar results in countries that did and did not introduce mandatory mask wearing

    That poster mentioned masks and normal flu season. Their agenda is obvious.


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    #1356
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,118 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    The Yanks are starting to test for flu and covid at the same time now. We should probably start considering it.


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    #1357
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    is_that_so wrote: »
    And this is also at the root of the dramatic German "surge" in R0.

    You mean the surge that had the prophets of doom shouting from the rooftops? The surge that about 2 weeks later amounted to nothing substantial?


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    #1358
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Seven Septs wrote: »
    They're pyrrhic.

    There's no news today. We're at the same stage as we were a month ago in supressing the virus, it's well under control here, which is good. But coming on here for a celebration of nothing? The world is recording record cases of the virus. We live in a global village. It will be hard to keep it from coming back strongly.

    When there's a vaccine and a couple of hundred new cases globally a day i'll celebrate with you.

    I think you'll be 'celebrating' on your own.


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    #1359
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    polesheep wrote: »
    Masks are the equivalent of Homer Simpson's anti-tiger rock. P.S. Homer's rock may have had special powers.

    is this the level we're at?


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    #1360
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    'Do what we say, not what we do' seems to be a common theme among 'the powers that be'.

    "Boris Johnson has refused to condemn his father for flying to Greece in apparent breach of British Foreign Office guidance to avoid non-essential travel.

    Stanley Johnson was widely criticised after reportedly travelling via Bulgaria – in order to avoid the ban on direct flights from the UK – to visit his Greek villa."

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/boris-johnson-refuses-to-condemn-his-fathers-trip-to-greek-villa-1009076.html


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    #1361
    Arghus
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You mean the surge that had the prophets of doom shouting from the rooftops? The surge that about 2 weeks later amounted to nothing substantial?

    I think you are exaggerating the "shouting from the rooftops".

    A few posters talked about the German numbers, some expressed concern, but really not that many. And there was always just as many using caution and context to try to explain the numbers. It wasn't mass hysteria on the thread.

    Shouting from the rooftops? Why the hyperbole?

    I don't recall anyone of note calling it as a second surge in Germany. I read lots and lots about how it wasn't that. Coverage seemed pretty measured overall to me.


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    #1362
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,362 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Gardaí to start checking pubs to ensure Covid-19 guidelines being followed

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/garda%C3%AD-to-start-checking-pubs-to-ensure-covid-19-guidelines-being-followed-1.4295739?mode=amp

    Glad to hear this. Hopefully it isn't just hot-air from the Guards. I know of plenty of pubs this week that were letting people stay drinking for hours and hours.


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    #1363
    stephenjmcd
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    Arghus wrote: »
    Gardaí to start checking pubs to ensure Covid-19 guidelines being followed

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/garda%C3%AD-to-start-checking-pubs-to-ensure-covid-19-guidelines-being-followed-1.4295739?mode=amp

    Glad to hear this. Hopefully it isn't just hot-air from the Guards. I know of plenty of pubs this week that were letting people stay drinking for hours and hours.

    The gardai actually can't do anything, the pubs aren't breaking any laws by letting people stay more than 105 minutes. Its for show plain and simple. The "guidelines" have no legal footing.

    If your going to a pub have a meal it's quite simple. But this is nothing more than a PR exercise.

    I've been in 2 pubs this week for dinner and a few drinks and if its not busy you wont be asked to leave. If its busy they'll ask for the table after about 2hrs


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    #1364
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Arghus wrote: »
    I think you are exaggerating the "shouting from the rooftops".

    A few posters talked about the German numbers, some expressed concern, but really not that many. And there was always just as many using caution and context to try to explain the numbers. It wasn't mass hysteria on the thread.

    Shouting from the rooftops? Why the hyperbole?

    I don't recall anyone of note calling it as a second surge in Germany. I read lots and lots about how it wasn't that. Coverage seemed pretty measured overall to me.

    There were people saying the same thing would eventually happen here and people deliberately misrepresented the rate of infection of 2.88. I might have exaggerated with prophets of soon but look at seven septs pissing all over the fact we've the lowest transmission rate in Western Europe. Some people just can't let up.


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    #1365
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Arghus wrote: »
    Gardaí to start checking pubs to ensure Covid-19 guidelines being followed

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/garda%C3%AD-to-start-checking-pubs-to-ensure-covid-19-guidelines-being-followed-1.4295739?mode=amp

    Glad to hear this. Hopefully it isn't just hot-air from the Guards. I know of plenty of pubs this week that were letting people stay drinking for hours and hours.

    Couldn’t they just grant extra powers to Inspectors from the Food Safety Authority to look after this and shut the places down on the spot?


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    #1366
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    The gardai actually can't do anything, the pubs aren't breaking any laws by letting people stay more than 105 minutes. Its for show plain and simple. The "guidelines" have no legal footing.

    If your going to a pub have a meal it's quite simple. But this is nothing more than a PR exercise.

    I've been in 2 pubs this week for dinner and a few drinks and if its not busy you wont be asked to leave. If its busy they'll ask for the table after about 2hrs

    We had one pub here that is follwing the guide lines and doing well. (They started planning ages ago). The other was a free for all at weekend and two neighbours looked in and left straightaway its includes a small takeaway attached that was jammed. My favorite isnt opening until 20th.


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    #1367
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    In the US, Arizona reports less than 9% ICU beds capacity remains which is only 156, but they will probably have some overflow capacity. Texas is already diverting patients to overflow facilities.

    The rise in ER admissions in Arizona is striking in the last couple of days, the big epicenter by a long shot is Pheonix...

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    The big message here from across these states is how quickly this escalates, it can't be hammered home enough and that's in the middle of summer.

    If that was winter and in tandem with flu season then... :/


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    #1368
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    There were people saying the same thing would eventually happen here and people deliberately misrepresented the rate of infection of 2.88. I might have exaggerated with prophets of soon but look at seven septs pissing all over the fact we've the lowest transmission rate in Western Europe. Some people just can't let up.

    So, just checking in are you back to work in the office?
    Still doing the Masters this autumn?
    How has your life changed due to lockdown?
    You were so anxious about it before, did it effect you in the ways you expected?


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    #1369
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Private Jet with US tourists rejected at Italy’s borders

    Forgive my ignorance as I haven't been following things as closely of late but I presumed that the European ban on certain countries just meant all European countries are doing this but I was told by someone today that we are still allowing people from America to enter Ireland. Is that true?


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    #1370
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    Private Jet with US tourists rejected at Italy’s borders

    Forgive my ignorance as I haven't been following things as closely of late but I presumed that the European ban on certain countries just meant all European countries are doing this but I was told by someone today that we are still allowing people from America to enter Ireland. Is that true?

    think its just Schengen area that the european restrictions apply to


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    #1371
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    Private Jet with US tourists rejected at Italy’s borders

    Forgive my ignorance as I haven't been following things as closely of late but I presumed that the European ban on certain countries just meant all European countries are doing this but I was told by someone today that we are still allowing people from America to enter Ireland. Is that true?


    All those US multinationals have to be looked after.


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    #1372
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    think its just Schengen area that the european restrictions apply to

    Why aren't we doing the same? Seems like complete madness. Apparently this person was saying there has been quite an influx of American tourists in the last week. For a country who I think has made some very good decisions during all of this I can't help but to be baffled by our border policies during it.

    Edit - I only see now there is a whole thread on the topic.


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    #1373
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    So, just checking in are you back to work in the office?
    Still doing the Masters this autumn?
    How has your life changed due to lockdown?
    You were so anxious about it before, did it effect you in the ways you expected?

    Yeah I've been back a few weeks now thanks for asking. The course is still going ahead thank God and things are more or less back to normal. I hope everything's alright with yourself. I feel embarrassed over my outburst back in April it just kind of boiled over and I made an ass of myself. Thanks a lot for checking in and I hope you're doing well.


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    #1374
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/texmed/status/1279046501054980096


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    #1375
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    23% positivity rate in South Africa.

    https://twitter.com/NorbertElekes/status/1279135671840628739


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    #1376
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    wadacrack wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/texmed/status/1279046501054980096
    Be informed. Know your risk. Stay safe.

    they saved the best till last, didn't they?


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    #1377
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    23% positivity rate in South Africa.

    https://twitter.com/NorbertElekes/status/1279135671840628739
    with daily positivity rate of over 23%.

    That Stat is mental

    Why are we seeing 0.3 % in Ireland and 23% there?

    Different stages of the curve? Different standards of Restrictions?

    Perhaps both I think


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    #1378
    Be right back
    Registered Users Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Currently there is just under 15,000 active cases in Italy and 1% of that are seriously ill.


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    #1379
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,495 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    It's shocking that there could be such big outbreaks in sparsely populated cities like Phoenix, people in that part of the country must be paying absolutely no heed to trying to stop the spread. To think places like Hong Kong and Tokyo completely avoided major outbreaks, just completely lack of leadership and personal responsibility


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    #1380
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1279105229846450187


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    #1381
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Be right back wrote: »
    Currently there is just under 15,000 active cases in Italy and 1% of that are seriously ill.

    Italy reports 79 as serious/critical.


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