Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

ZX7R · 03-07-2020 04:45PM

speckle wrote: »

3 days before the stay at home in your own household came into effect. posdible link that they realised legal action might be taken not just in that situation but elsewhere? Anyhow I hope they all recovered well.

All recovered none were hospitalized.

Igotadose · 03-07-2020 05:11PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I honestly don’t think they could’ve handled the diamond princess worse tbh - we have flattened the curve without mandatory masks.

Japan did much better due to masks. Fewer deaths than we had, never had much of a curve to flatten. We were well behaved during the lockdown, by and large and a lot of the country is fairly 'socially distant' by geography.

Now we're allowing unrestricted tourists from hotspot countries in. Wear a mask. Cheap, easy, safe.

Boggles · 03-07-2020 05:17PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I honestly don’t think they could’ve handled the diamond princess worse tbh - we have flattened the curve without mandatory masks.

The curve will flatten eventually if a country does nothing.

But the evidence and science is clear, countries that mandated for masks early as well as the other measures, had less infections, less deaths and flattened the curve much earlier.

The amount of science denial since this started is actually quite startling, worrying actually.

wadacrack · 03-07-2020 05:22PM

Lessons need to learned from this. At this stage it looks this pattern could be repeated in many countries. Hopefully its not the case

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1279087342092005379

ShineOn7 · 03-07-2020 05:30PM

Sheets Weren’t Changed at Some Hotels During COVD-19

Half a million views in a few days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltBrCJC5BNI

The response from Trump's hotel is predictably, hilariously bad

Jackman25 · 03-07-2020 05:34PM

Seven Septs wrote: »

He's not entitled to ask for thread bans.

I don't wear knickers, they're for sissys like you.

Debunked on here lol. This is boards, not a recognised medical journal. The saying a little learning is a dangerous thing can be applied to a few on here.

Cool. So you think the fluctuating R0 value in Germany is a real cause for concern ya?

At least one good thing about the doom-mongering is that it will help to keep some pains in the hole out of the pub for a while.

03-07-2020 05:38PM

Boggles wrote: »

The curve will flatten eventually if a country does nothing.

But the evidence and science is clear, countries that mandated for masks early as well as the other measures, had less infections, less deaths and flattened the curve much earlier.

The amount of science denial since this started is actually quite startling, worrying actually.

There is no published science that provides quantatitive or qualitative data identifying the advantage of mandatory mask wearing in all circumstances over other measures. Those countries that introduced mandatory mask wearing also reacted very early, so we cannot identify which had the significant impact. Plus Denmark were just as successful. We have also crushed the curve to a far greater extent than some of these places, and over counted deaths to a huge extent, confirmed by our former Taoiseach. Masks are and remain a useful control for public transport and indoor locations where social distancing cannot be applied or extended exposure is possible. But as a mandatory measure in all circumstances the evidence is mixed at best.

ACitizenErased · 03-07-2020 05:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no published science that provides quantatitive or qualitative data identifying the advantage of mandatory mask wearing in all circumstances over other measures. Those countries that introduced mandatory mask wearing also reacted very early, so we cannot identify which had the significant impact. Plus Denmark were just as successful. We have also crushed the curve to a far greater extent than some of these places, and over counted deaths to a huge extent, confirmed by our former Taoiseach. Masks are and remain a useful control for public transport and indoor locations where social distancing cannot be applied or extended exposure is possible. But as a mandatory measure in all circumstances the evidence is mixed at best.

Some people will argue till the day's end that we haven't done a good job at crushing the curve tbh.

ACitizenErased · 03-07-2020 05:44PM

2 more deaths RIP

9 new cases

Igotadose · 03-07-2020 05:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no published science that provides quantatitive or qualitative data identifying the advantage of mandatory mask wearing in all circumstances over other measures. Those countries that introduced mandatory mask wearing also reacted very early, so we cannot identify which had the significant impact. Plus Denmark were just as successful. We have also crushed the curve to a far greater extent than some of these places, and over counted deaths to a huge extent, confirmed by our former Taoiseach. Masks are and remain a useful control for public transport and indoor locations where social distancing cannot be applied or extended exposure is possible. But as a mandatory measure in all circumstances the evidence is mixed at best.

Oh stop.

Masks stop the spread of the virus. No question. Japan proves it. South Korea proves it. And in neither case is this their first rodeo. Remember Sars? H1N1?

Do you think they just dreamt that up, this last January? The data show that mask wearing works - Japan has had way fewer deaths than Ireland despite *30* times the population. Simples. Sneeze into a mask, it doesn't spread as much.

We only need to make it 'mandatory' because *culturally* it's different. Soon as we get used to it in Ireland, our Flu deaths will drop seasonally, too.

Do feel free to point out a study in a refereed journal showing the results are mixed. I'm sure there's been a study done, right? This is why all the Western public health experts you see quoted now, are advocating strongly against wearing masks.

*eyeroll*

silverharp · 03-07-2020 05:46PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Lessons need to learned from this. At this stage it looks this pattern could be repeated in many countries. Hopefully its not the case

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1279087342092005379

there will always be consequences

wadacrack · 03-07-2020 05:47PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1279093968157003778

KrustyUCC · 03-07-2020 05:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

2 more deaths RIP

9 new cases

More good figures thankfully

ShineOn7 · 03-07-2020 05:47PM

An overall positive week I think figures wise. Maybe a little above last week cases wise

Citizen: would you have the last 4-6 weeks of cases and mortalities by way of comparison?

KrustyUCC · 03-07-2020 05:48PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

An overall positive week I think figures wise. Maybe a little above last week cases wise

Citizen: would you have the last 4-6 weeks of cases and moralities by way of comparison?

Might be up slightly thanks to large clusters alright

wadacrack · 03-07-2020 05:48PM

silverharp wrote: »

there will always be consequences

Yea no need to state the obvious

ACitizenErased · 03-07-2020 05:49PM

We have well and truly crushed the curve. Testing increased 3 fold this week and case numbers are this low. Fantastic stuff.

branie2 · 03-07-2020 05:50PM

Good to see the number of cases back in single figures again

03-07-2020 05:51PM

Igotadose wrote: »

Oh stop.

Masks stop the spread of the virus. No question. Japan proves it. South Korea proves it. And in neither case is this their first rodeo. Remember Sars? H1N1?

Do you think they just dreamt that up, this last January? The data show that mask wearing works - Japan has had way fewer deaths than Ireland despite *30* times the population. Simples. Sneeze into a mask, it doesn't spread as much.

We only need to make it 'mandatory' because *culturally* it's different. Soon as we get used to it in Ireland, our Flu deaths will drop seasonally, too.

Do feel free to point out a study in a refereed journal showing the results are mixed. I'm sure there's been a study done, right? This is why all the Western public health experts you see quoted now, are advocating strongly against wearing masks.

*eyeroll*

Similar results in countries that did and did not introduce mandatory mask wearing

ShineOn7 · 03-07-2020 05:51PM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1279093968157003778

Are these mortalities or just cases?

If it's cases then that's excellent

ACitizenErased · 03-07-2020 05:54PM

Analysis of cases as of midnight Wednesday 1st July - 25,489 cases (+18)

Healthcare Workers +4
Clusters +85
Cases associated with clusters +293

Age Range Affected
0-4 No Change
5-14 No Change
15-24 +5
25-34 +6
35-44 No Change
45-54 +4
55-64 +2
65-74 No Change
75-84 No Change
85+ +1

Cases by County
Cork +4
Dublin +8
Galway +1
Kildare +3
Limerick +3
Westmeath +1
Wicklow -2

03-07-2020 05:55PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Lessons need to learned from this. At this stage it looks this pattern could be repeated in many countries. Hopefully its not the case

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1279087342092005379

It’s clear lots of places open when they had a falling rate, without truly understanding the outbreak in their county, which is why things slipped back. We took extra time and with done luck, will hopefully reap the benefits

Non solum non ambulabit · 03-07-2020 05:55PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

We have well and truly crushed the curve. Testing increased 3 fold this week and case numbers are this low. Fantastic stuff.

This. 100% . I for one am delighted.

Jackman25 · 03-07-2020 05:56PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

An overall positive week I think figures wise. Maybe a little above last week cases wise

Citizen: would you have the last 4-6 weeks of cases and moralities by way of comparison?

Moralities have dropped this week according to Pat Kenny

Non solum non ambulabit · 03-07-2020 05:56PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Are these mortalities or just cases?

If it's cases then that's excellent

Cases

Seven Septs · 03-07-2020 05:56PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

We have well and truly crushed the curve. Testing increased 3 fold this week and case numbers are this low. Fantastic stuff.

That's all great and the Irish citizenry have been exemplary BUT and it's a big one...

This is only round 1. It's a fight with an unknown number of rounds. Reinfection can occur very easily with travel. The bulk of our population hasn't been exposed to the virus. When autumn comes we may have other strains of flu combined with covid.

You're like a fella fist pumping because he scores the first point in a match.

While we are doing well due to our efforts we're only as good as our neighbours to the west and east governed by the blond buffoons.

wadacrack · 03-07-2020 05:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s clear lots of places open when they had a falling rate, without truly understanding the outbreak in their county, which is why things slipped back. We took extra time and with done luck, will hopefully reap the benefits

Yea hopefully with the virus suppressed at such low levels it will work out for us better than other countries.

Non solum non ambulabit · 03-07-2020 05:59PM

Seven Septs wrote: »

That's all great and the Irish citizenry have been exemplary BUT and it's a big one...

This is only round 1. It's a fight with an unknown number of rounds. Reinfection can occur very easily with travel. The bulk of our population hasn't been exposed to the virus. When autumn comes we may have other strains of flu combined with covid.

You're like a fella fist pumping because he scores the first point in a match.

While we are doing well due to our efforts we're only as good as our neighbours to the west and east governed by the blond buffoons.

Let's enjoy our victories when we can.

ACitizenErased · 03-07-2020 06:00PM

ESTIMATES: How COVID-19 is spreading
Community Transmission 8488 (-426)
Close Contacts 16389 (+342)
Travel Abroad 586 (+77)
Unknown 26

Total: 25,489

Seven Septs · 03-07-2020 06:01PM

Jackman25 wrote: »

Cool. So you think the fluctuating R0 value in Germany is a real cause for concern ya?

At least one good thing about the doom-mongering is that it will help to keep some pains in the hole out of the pub for a while.

If you're referring to me I don't drink.

A fluctuating R value is concern anywhere, particularly the reasons behind it.

Some pains in the hole think their intellects because they have a few new buzz words since March, like R0:rolleyes:

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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