The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

rebelyell99 wrote:

Phillp rivers wont make it into the hall

I think he will make it.
He has been the leader in passer rating, yardage and completion % in different seasons. He will have thrown for over 60k yards and 400 TDs by the time he retires.

Comparisons for both that I would use are Troy Aikman for Eli and Warren Moon for Rivers.

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I wouldn't be so quick to put down Eli.

Sure, he was never the best in the league and was rarely if eve considered one of the top 5 QBs either. Though that's difficult given for most of his career Brady, Manning and Brees permanently occupied 3 of those top 5 spots.

Super Bowl wins aside, he was an NFL starter for near 15 years, put up over 55k passing yards and took his team to the playoffs 6 times. How many players in NFL history can say they've done the same?

I don't think the Hall of Fame should purely be for the elite, best of the best players. There has to be an allowance for players who were never the best, but had exceptional careers and Eli is one of the slam dunk fits for the latter category.

No one is putting Eli down, they're just looking at his career as a whole rather than cherry picking accomplishments while completely ignoring his negatives.

I disagree with linking QBs so closely to wins as the media and many fans do but if you want to go down that road then you can't ignore that in his 6 trips to the playoffs he only managed to win a game on 2 occasions and overall he led his team to the same number of loses as wins. You're giving him the credit for the wins but not making him accountable for the loses.

I also wouldn't class him as having an exceptional career, he had 2 exceptional playoff runs and the rest was good, at best. A 15 year career is great but it is hardly like playing QB has durability issues like RBs etc. If we're being honest about it, if the Giants hadn't be so nostalgic and felt such a sense of loyalty to him he wouldn't have been their QB for the last 3 or 4 years. Every excuse was made for Manning that isn't made for other QBs and he was not close to deserving the money they were paying him. The Giants as an organisation would have been in a better position if they had moved on when they should have, you know if Brady was playing to Manning's level over that period Bill would have shown him the door.

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

He's not even the best qb in his family ffs!

In Shannon Sharpe's HoF entry speech he admitted he wasn't the best player in his family and Sterling was better.

Foxtrol wrote: »

I also wouldn't class him as having an exceptional career, he had 2 exceptional playoff runs and the rest was good, at best.

He didn't win a single playoff game outside of the Super Bowl runs.

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I think everyone has AB fatigue at this stage. I see his stepdad did an interview recently and it did not paint AB in a good light. Said he was a nightmare from 12 years of age and that as an adult he had seen him be horrible and abusive to women. It’s amazing how quickly and how publicly he went completely off the rails all the same.

Genuinely hope he gets help before he hurts himself or somebody else badly.

Christy42 wrote: »

https://985thesportshub.com/2020/01/24/saints-fighting-to-hide-emails-relating-to-new-orleans-church-abuse-scandal/

A lot to be proven but if shown to be true...

Should it be the end of the Saints? I mean this should be the end of anyone's career but if it is shown at an organizational level what should the punishment be?

I would stress emails have not been released yet so we don't have proof of the Saints covering up sex abuse scandals for the church.

The Catholic Church and the saints ? What an odd headline.

Horrible news. True star.

On the pro bowl. It should be about the skills. No one cares for the game.

First attempt at a 4th&15 on-side kick was a historic moment.

Blut2 wrote: »

I tried watching a quarter of the Pro-Bowl but it was just so bland. It was like watching a non-contact practice session. Could not imagine having bought tickets to it.

Aye I watched a couple of quarters, it was woeful, almost touch football at times. Other sports have these show games, like the Barbarians in rugby, but that is played at close to international intensity, why do the NFL not play this game properly? Lack of coverage if players get injured?

Inquitus wrote: »

Aye I watched a couple of quarters, it was woeful, almost touch football at times. Other sports have these show games, like the Barbarians in rugby, but that is played at close to international intensity, why do the NFL not play this game properly? Lack of coverage if players get injured?

Football by its nature is incredibly difficult to play offense after only a few days of focused practice together and as a result the defense has to be completely neutered so they don't kill them.

You use rugby as your example but I'd argue the effort put in to nearly every game is really the outlier in sports than the rule. In rugby, even non-competition test matches are played at a completely different intensity to soccer friendlies or NFL preseason games.

The pro-bowl is looked at more like an all-star testimonial games in soccer so performances are going to match.

Chargers formally announce they are parting ways with Philip Rivers

krustydoyle wrote: »

Chargers formally announce they are parting ways with Philip Rivers

Sad to see this. Whatever the talk is of Eli and his HOF candidacy, I think the thing which stood out most from last week was “Only a Giant”. Rivers is the same for me. Same as Ben.