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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #4802
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=38s&v=86WEayuHBOw

    https://youtu.be/TmVxnWZrFk4

    I presume most have already seen these. Two videos Dovea made about their beef bulls.


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    #4803
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,932 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=38s&v=86WEayuHBOw

    https://youtu.be/TmVxnWZrFk4

    I presume most have already seen these. Two videos Dovea made about their beef bulls.

    Some super calves
    Like the LSP heifer in the first
    There’s a fantastic BB heifer in the second, would like to know the sire
    Defo would use both next year


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    #4804
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    He's the type of farmer I like, says it like it is. "The last bull we had here, twas about 15 years ago, he was a super 52 bull. There was 10 great calves & some awful rubbish" :D


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    #4805
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    He's the type of farmer I like, says it like it is. "The last bull we had here, twas about 15 years ago, he was a super 52 bull. There was 10 great calves & some awful rubbish" :D

    That was hilarious in fairness.


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    #4806
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    That was hilarious in fairness.

    He's right too! It's the reason I won't let a bull in, though it would be easier. Wouldn't suit every cow we have, plus variety is the spice of life :cool:


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    #4807
    Hard Knocks
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    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    He's right too! It's the reason I won't let a bull in, though it would be easier. Wouldn't suit every cow we have, plus variety is the spice of life :cool:

    True, especially when hoping for replacements off some and export quality off others
    Used a bull on 1/2 of the cows this year
    Has brought the calving forward a good bit
    AI is great, but it’s too easy to miss time


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    #4808
    patsy_mccabe
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=38s&v=86WEayuHBOw

    https://youtu.be/TmVxnWZrFk4

    I presume most have already seen these. Two videos Dovea made about their beef bulls.

    That John Lynch of Dovea is a great cattle man. Saw him control a mad bull acting up one day in Roscrea. I don't think many others would have been able to do it. Fierce helpful to other breeders at sales too.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4809
    Hard Knocks
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    That John Lynch of Dovea is a great cattle man. Saw him control a mad bull acting up one day in Roscrea. I don't think many others would have been able to do it. Fierce helpful to other breeders at sales too.
    Real interest in stock, and fierce helpful
    Met him in overalls in Carrick trimming bulls
    Give you good tips & encouragement


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    #4810
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,688 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Ernevalley Madison (LM4745) first calves


    https://www.facebook.com/doveagenetics/videos/1385990971610427

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4811
    Farm365
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    First time using ZAG this year mainly on heifers. He is easy calving and the calves are up drinking in no time. Are his calves a bit short and butty?


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    #4812
    tanko
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    Farm365 wrote: »
    First time using ZAG this year mainly on heifers. He is easy calving and the calves are up drinking in no time. Are his calves a bit short and butty?

    They generally are alrite but are usually well muscled with good shape.


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    #4813
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,688 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Farm365 wrote: »
    First time using ZAG this year mainly on heifers. He is easy calving and the calves are up drinking in no time. Are his calves a bit short and butty?

    He's only 1 star for milk too, which is crazy considering his back breeding. Still, he's the kind of bull you'll use again as he is so well proven now and ideal for heifers.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4814
    ABitofsense
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    Farm365 wrote: »
    First time using ZAG this year mainly on heifers. He is easy calving and the calves are up drinking in no time. Are his calves a bit short and butty?

    We have 4 Zag calves this year, all calved themselves. Set of twins are smallish but that's to be expected. Another bull & he's average size. Then a hiefer whose the runt of all the calves this year (measured 90kg at 60 days).


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    #4815
    Donegalforever
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    Farm365 wrote: »
    First time using ZAG this year mainly on heifers. He is easy calving and the calves are up drinking in no time. Are his calves a bit short and butty?

    They are muscular but not very tall.


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    #4816
    patsy_mccabe
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    Gremlins.......

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4817
    Sheep breeder
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    Anybody buy any straws from K genetics in Donegal and how did they get on buying from them.


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    #4818
    furandfeather
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    Sheep breeder wrote: »
    Anybody buy any straws from K genetics in Donegal and how did they get on buying from them.

    I bought a few of him. I'd no problem anyways


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    #4819
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,688 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Do many of you store bought straws with your AI technician? I have maybe 30 or more with mine and he's starting to get a bit grumpy over it. With pedigrees, I like to keep a range so as to match with different cows.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4820
    bogman_bass
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    How many of those would you use in a year?


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    #4821
    patsy_mccabe
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    bogman_bass wrote: »
    How many of those would you use in a year?
    Maybe 15 to 20.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4822
    Hard Knocks
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    Sheep breeder wrote: »
    Anybody buy any straws from K genetics in Donegal and how did they get on buying from them.

    Bought a few
    Nice lad


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    #4823
    Hard Knocks
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Do many of you store bought straws with your AI technician? I have maybe 30 or more with mine and he's starting to get a bit grumpy over it. With pedigrees, I like to keep a range so as to match with different cows.

    Had the same or maybe he was away when the PB cow was Bulling
    Bought a tank recently for that reason


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    #4824
    Lady Haywire
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Do many of you store bought straws with your AI technician? I have maybe 30 or more with mine and he's starting to get a bit grumpy over it. With pedigrees, I like to keep a range so as to match with different cows.

    Yes, but I try & keep my limit to ten in the goblet I have space in, plus order in for the year ahead in Spring. Have also told him he can work away off my straws if he likes/someone asks for one. Once it's replaced or he gets me a straw I'm looking for which mightn't be easy to come by.
    Bit of give & take needed.

    Oh actually add TVR to my list of bulls used this year. Just one more left to AI (hopefully) this year.


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    #4825
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Do many of you store bought straws with your AI technician? I have maybe 30 or more with mine and he's starting to get a bit grumpy over it. With pedigrees, I like to keep a range so as to match with different cows.

    That's overkill tbf


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    #4826
    Farm365
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Farm365


    Has anyone used First CH2216? Is he easy calving? Thinking of using him on HF cow second Calver


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    #4827
    Hard Knocks
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    Farm365 wrote: »
    Has anyone used First CH2216? Is he easy calving? Thinking of using him on HF cow second Calver

    Would the calves be too plain?
    Prefer Fleetwood


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    #4828
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    If I want to genotype a heifer to verify its parentage, is it on icbf where I can order the testing kit?


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    #4829
    Hard Knocks
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    If I want to genotype a heifer to verify its parentage, is it on icbf where I can order the testing kit?

    Yes
    Go to services - Genomic Services - place an order


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    #4830
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,688 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Yes
    Go to services - Genomic Services - place an order

    Am I right in saying that the Dam and Sire have to be on the system already to verify both as parents.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4831
    ABitofsense
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Am I right in saying that the Dam and Sire have to be on the system already to verify both as parents.

    Yes they do. I did 4 1st calvers earlier this year as they were down with unknown sire. 2 matched but other 2 returned unknown as the sire wasn't genotyped.


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