Cancelled and Rescheduled gigs

Eod100 · 03-03-2021 5:05pm

Ailbhe Reddys Button Factory gig in May rescheduled to November

https://twitter.com/singularartists/status/1367143290223624193

PTH2009 · 03-03-2021 8:48pm

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0303/1200829-entertainment-industry-clarity/

Sadly they will be told a big fat 'No we cant be hosting events this summer due to the variants' or some other waffle

Going to be frustrating seeing the UK and other European countries hosting events

Furious-Red · 04-03-2021 10:18am

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0303/1200829-entertainment-industry-clarity/

Sadly they will be told a big fat 'No we cant be hosting events this summer due to the variants' or some other waffle

Going to be frustrating seeing the UK and other European countries hosting events

I think most EU countries are being more cautious than the UK with their reopening, tbh I still think its risky just opening up full steam ahead and going straight into massive crowds.

hkjohn · 04-03-2021 10:42am

Wish it wasn't so, but given that most US acts are going to find it prohibitively expensive to just play apparently "COVID-Safe" countries like the UK, I think summer festivals' line ups are going to be pretty piss poor. As has been the case with Reading and Leeds.

Wish the EU would pull its bloody finger out re the vaccines. It's a sad state of affairs when the likes of Bojo and Nick H look like the smartest guys in the room

Exclamation Marc · 04-03-2021 11:03am

hkjohn wrote: »

Wish it wasn't so, but given that most US acts are going to find it prohibitively expensive to just play apparently "COVID-Safe" countries like the UK, I think summer festivals' line ups are going to be pretty piss poor. As has been the case with Reading and Leeds.

Wish the EU would pull its bloody finger out re the vaccines. It's a sad state of affairs when the likes of Bojo and Nick H look like the smartest guys in the room

Having the fourth worst death rate in the world doesn't make the UK look smart to anyone with more than a short term memory. And whilst the bluster of allowing gigs sound great, there's a lot to work out before they go ahead.

I agree though that until European tours en masse are safe to do so, US acts just won't plan gigs or tour abroad. There are too many variables that can derail a tour or part of tour that the insurance costs alone would likely be prohibitive until we're out the other side of this. And on top of that, the demand for gigs domestically will be huge so there'll be a huge market there to keep them ticking over

Can see gigs being primarily local talent when gigs return for a decent period of time.

Furious-Red · 04-03-2021 11:14am

We may not see Ian Brown over hear anytime soon if the "Vaccination Passport" is introduced as he already pulled out of the Neighbourhood festival that was moved to later in the year because he is against the vaccine etc

RayCon · 04-03-2021 12:17pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

We may not see Ian Brown over hear anytime soon if the "Vaccination Passport" is introduced as he already pulled out of the Neighbourhood festival that was moved to later in the year because he is against the vaccine etc

Silver linings .....

ghostdancer · 04-03-2021 2:28pm

And anti-mask too.

Zardoz · 04-03-2021 3:01pm

hkjohn wrote: »

Wish it wasn't so, but given that most US acts are going to find it prohibitively expensive to just play apparently "COVID-Safe" countries like the UK, I think summer festivals' line ups are going to be pretty piss poor. As has been the case with Reading and Leeds.

There was no insurance cover announced in the UK budget yesterday so the chances of Reading and Leeds and other big festivals going ahead this summer is very slim as they have no insurance cover.

drawnacrol · 04-03-2021 3:12pm

Most people don't know how expensive it is for bands to come to Europe. Its normal to make a loss or just break even your first 3 tours before you start to make money. Its all about building an audience. If the UK goes ahead with summer festivals which it won't they would have half their lineups cancel. Flying a band and crew to Europe to play a UK date, but not be able to play the France, Germany, Denmark dates before their Poland date for example would destroy a band. They'd need new flights, new accommodation, food etc to cover the days in-between. Thats before Covid passports and negative tests are factored in.

Before starting a tour you put yourself in debt and the gigs + merchandise pay that off. With no certainty of being able to play or even enter a country I can't see many tours going ahead.

Exclamation Marc · 04-03-2021 4:47pm

drawnacrol wrote: »

Before starting a tour you put yourself in debt and the gigs + merchandise pay that off. With no certainty of being able to play or even enter a country I can't see many tours going ahead.

Also the reason why tours are being rescheduled rather than cancelled.

Mollyb60 · 04-03-2021 7:10pm

exilec wrote: »

PAUL HEATON & JACQUI ABBOTT
We’re very sorry and enormously frustrated to have to make this announcement, but due to the ongoing situation & social distancing rules around the UK & Ireland we have once again been forced into rescheduling our forthcoming tour dates. We’ve now moved the UK dates to October 2021 (full list below) and we’re still working on new dates for Ireland which will be announced at some point in the coming weeks. Your tickets remain valid for all the new dates. We‘re extremely sorry for any inconvenience caused by this but can’t wait to see and perform for you all. ‘Til then stay safe.

No update on this anywhere? I've got tickets for the Galway gig but no information on the rescheduled dates.

PTH2009 · 04-03-2021 7:59pm

Have 2 gigs after the summer in the 3Arena Genesis in September and Elton John in December

A small glimmer of hope is that there both Uk based acts and have dates scheduled for cities around the UK. Elton John having European/UK dates is a little more problematic as i don't think he would postpone the European ones and do the UK/Ireland dates. Then it's all about getting the green light from the cautious Irish government and NPHET about mass gatherings. We have already lost the Euro 2020/21 games in Dublin due to them playing a massive part

Sadly the wait will have to go on for Green Day and MCR as i don't see them touring Europe this summer

Wait and see i suppose

Furious-Red · 04-03-2021 9:15pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Have 2 gigs after the summer in the 3Arena Genesis in September and Elton John in December

A small glimmer of hope is that there both Uk based acts and have dates scheduled for cities around the UK. Elton John having European/UK dates is a little more problematic as i don't think he would postpone the European ones and do the UK/Ireland dates. Then it's all about getting the green light from the cautious Irish government and NPHET about mass gatherings. We have already lost the Euro 2020/21 games in Dublin due to them playing a massive part

Sadly the wait will have to go on for Green Day and MCR as i don't see them touring Europe this summer

Wait and see i suppose

As much as im dying to go to gigs, Id still be in favour of a cautious re-opening of the country then the UK.

hkjohn · 05-03-2021 12:28pm

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Having the fourth worst death rate in the world doesn't make the UK look smart to anyone with more than a short term memory.

Wasn't talking about the UK's death rate which I agree is atrocious, I was talking about the success of their vaccination policy in getting something like 20,000,000 folk vaccinated in under three months.

Anyway, back on topic. I see Vicar Street started selling tickets for Richard Thompson in November. Much as I love RT, there is no way I am going to risk going to a gig that early - even assuming it goes ahead, which is hard to see.

Other thing about UK acts playing Ireland and mainland Europe is that Bojo and the boys have failed to realize how much music contributes to the UK economy (something like UK£6 billion apparently). As a result, when gigs eventually return, touring acts from the UK will all have to get not only visas but also obtain customs clearance for their gear for every EU country where they are booked to play a gig.

Sheep Shagger · 05-03-2021 12:29pm

TM are some shower, making it so complicated to get a refund on tickets. Asking for details they already have to try and deter you from pressing on to get a refund.

Furious-Red · 05-03-2021 5:38pm

https://www.nme.com/news/music/european-festivals-mad-cool-exit-lowlands-2894787?fbclid=IwAR12cKChhGXZ88nCMvuOtBqKaf4XHiR6CJqy70N8J96udESeUeImvfF7yeY

Decent article from the likes of Lowlands/Mad Cool/Roskilde/EXIT festivals about whats happening in summer 2021. Also Rock in Rio Lisbon & Brazil have been postponed to summer 2022

For Forks Sake · 06-03-2021 8:07pm

hkjohn wrote: »

Wasn't talking about the UK's death rate which I agree is atrocious, I was talking about the success of their vaccination policy in getting something like 20,000,000 folk vaccinated in under three months.

Tories have decieded that they know more than scientists when it comes to vaccination, so have decided that the gap between 1st and 2nd doses should be 12 weeks, rather than the manufacturers recommended 4.

So, a person who gets their first shot today in Ireland will have their second shot on 3rd April. Job done.
Person in the UK gets first shot today won't have their second one until sometime in early June.

Person is not considered fully vaccinated until a couple of weeks after they have had their second shot.
So, my point is that it's not a level playing field, lets check back in June and see how both countries are looking at that stage.

hkjohn · 07-03-2021 11:13am

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Tories have decieded that they know more than scientists when it comes to vaccination, so have decided that the gap between 1st and 2nd doses should be 12 weeks, rather than the manufacturers recommended 4.

So, a person who gets their first shot today in Ireland will have their second shot on 3rd April. Job done.
Person in the UK gets first shot today won't have their second one until sometime in early June.

Person is not considered fully vaccinated until a couple of weeks after they have had their second shot.
So, my point is that it's not a level playing field, lets check back in June and see how both countries are looking at that stage.

The original topic is cancelled or rescheduled gigs and the possibility (unlikely imho) of festivals taking place
in the UK this summer.

If you want to discuss/argue the efficacy of the govt's vaccine roll-out in more detail than my throwaway
comment would seem to warrant, am sure there are better threads on which to do it than this.

Furious-Red · 08-03-2021 7:28pm

The Killers have postponed their UK and Ireland tour till 2022

Milena009 · 08-03-2021 7:29pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

The Killers have postponed their UK and Ireland tour till 2022

I got tickets for this and seen on FB however no official Ticketmaster email yet?

Exclamation Marc · 08-03-2021 8:53pm

Milena009 wrote: »

I got tickets for this and seen on FB however no official Ticketmaster email yet?

Ticketmaster are usually way behind the curve in communicating any issues at all (if they even bother to).

PTH2009 · 08-03-2021 9:06pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

The Killers have postponed their UK and Ireland tour till 2022

Sadly this will be the norm the next few weeks/months. Some bands could cancel the tours altogether while others will go the rescheduling path. Stadiums and large field concerts sadly won't be approved in Ireland this summer. The UK could be the trend setters in terms of the return of mass gatherings

Be nice if shows in the Iveagh Gardens, Trinity etc returned this summer but again Mass gatherings could be a no no

RamonD3 · 09-03-2021 7:30pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

The Killers have postponed their UK and Ireland tour till 2022

I got an email advertising a presale for a second show in Falkirk, I admire their optimism!

Furious-Red · 10-03-2021 11:15am

Rock Am Ring/Rock Im Park have postponed till 2022

Eod100 · 12-03-2021 11:02am

Live at the Marquee and Iveagh Gardens gigs rescheduled to next year

https://twitter.com/aikenpromotions/status/1370313374031093763

https://twitter.com/aikenpromotions/status/1370313376061079554

12-03-2021 9:01pm

Feel like going to every single marquee gig now next year

Even the 2 Johnnies

Stillill42 · 12-03-2021 10:15pm

Lilah Handsome Teaspoonful wrote: »

Feel like going to every single marquee gig now next year

Even the 2 Johnnies

I'll let that one go, Lilah Handsome Teaspoonful. You're emotional. It's understandable.

13-03-2021 10:16am

Stillill42 wrote: »

I'll let that one go, Lilah Handsome Teaspoonful. You're emotional. It's understandable.

Think I was hacked? Don’t know what that was about...better change my password !!!

Appreciate the understanding nonetheless:)

fafy · 13-03-2021 12:12pm

I see some of the Marquee gigs, have yet to be rescheduled, including The National.
So i assume one cannot request a refund until it is rescheduled ?

Eod100 · 13-03-2021 12:42pm

fafy wrote: »

I see some of the Marquee gigs, have yet to be rescheduled, including The National.
So i assume one cannot request a refund until it is rescheduled ?

Have a ticket for that myself. I think that's how it works alright!

fafy · 13-03-2021 2:45pm

For the Marquee 2022gigs, i am wondering if they will be an alternate location, as Glenveagh Property, who own the site, have planning in for 1,000 appartments on the Marquee site

Eod100 · 13-03-2021 4:33pm

fafy wrote: »

For the Marquee 2022gigs, i am wondering if they will be an alternate location, as Glenveagh Property, who own the site, have planning in for 1,000 appartments on the Marquee site

Was thinking that development must be pushed back another year but not sure for definite. Know there was talk of 2020 being last year on usual site but not sure have they secured another one since as was going to be usual site this summer too.

Might make sense for developers to push it back with covid if they could so could be win win for both.

PTH2009 · 14-03-2021 3:12pm

Looking like we might have to make a trip across to the UK if we want to see a gig in 2021

hynesie08 · 14-03-2021 3:22pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Looking like we might have to make a trip across to the UK if we went to see a gig in 2021

You basing that on anything?

Lithium93_ · 14-03-2021 5:49pm

It's wishful thinking by anyone to be pinning their hopes on going to the UK for a gig this year. They might be doing well with the plan they have, but that can very easily often change at the drop of a hat.

Penfailed · 14-03-2021 6:55pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

You basing that on anything?

Going by his postings on another thread, it's based on his pessimism and hatred of this country...

hynesie08 · 14-03-2021 7:14pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

It's wishful thinking by anyone to be pinning their hopes on going to the UK for a gig this year. They might be doing well with the plan they have, but that can very easily often change at the drop of a hat.

All these festivals announcing themselves for the first 2 weeks of July are being very optimistic, I know the window for outside gigs is small, but that's a razor tight margin.

Zardoz · 14-03-2021 8:00pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

All these festivals announcing themselves for the first 2 weeks of July are being very optimistic, I know the window for outside gigs is small, but that's a razor tight margin.

Realistically I don't think there will be any festivals in the UK this summer, its just promoters trying to jump the gun, put pressure on the Govt and get money in.

70-100 thousand people on a camp site for 3-4 days using basic toilet facilities.
I honestly can't see it.

Eod100 · 15-03-2021 11:09am

The Frames rescheduled from June to next May.
https://twitter.com/aikenpromotions/status/1371401336764436481?s=19

Furious-Red · 16-03-2021 11:05am

Rock Werchter has postponed for 2022

cullenswood · 16-03-2021 5:16pm

Ian Brown is cancelled

Eod100 · 16-03-2021 5:19pm

cullenswood wrote: »

Ian Brown is cancelled

Think he was a while back with his covid views.. :pac:

Hotblack Desiato · 16-03-2021 9:12pm

Del Griffith wrote: »

Fontaines DC in Iveagh Gardens, Dublin = 3rd July 2021

Fontaines DC in Iveagh Gardens, Dublin = 2nd July 2022 :eek: it's only a two year delay sure

Confirmed in Ticketmaster email today.

Not surprised as that venue can really only be used for a few weeks a year. I'll definitely be the oldest in the audience now :pac:

Stillill42 · 16-03-2021 9:14pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Fontaines DC in Iveagh Gardens, Dublin = 2nd July 2022 :eek:

Not surprised as that venue can really only be used for a few weeks a year. I'll definitely be the oldest in the audience now :pac:

Ahem.

Hotblack Desiato · 16-03-2021 9:58pm

well it's a joke obviously as everyone will be 2 years :eek: older than they should have been when the gig happened

Milena009 · 18-03-2021 1:55pm

The Jimmy Carr gigs got postponed till September 2022.
Already were rescheduled till November 2021 previously

Eod100 · 18-03-2021 2:15pm

Milena009 wrote: »

The Jimmy Carr gigs got postponed till September 2022.
Already were rescheduled till November 2021 previously

Think its May. Shows that promoters must not think major gigs might not be back by end of year so.

Milena009 · 18-03-2021 2:23pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Think its May. Shows that promoters must not think major gigs might not be back by end of year so.

So Dublin dates were originally Dec 2020 -> changed to Nov 2021 and now to September 2022.

Just waiting for other to follow suit

Eod100 · 18-03-2021 2:30pm

Milena009 wrote: »

So Dublin dates were originally Dec 2020 -> changed to Nov 2021 and now to September 2022.

Just waiting for other to follow suit

Ah just looking again, Dublin seems to be September alright but rest is May. Maybe cos Dublin is a few nights needed to be then or something! https://twitter.com/mcd_productions/status/1372488207393247232?s=19

Cancelled and Rescheduled gigs

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