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tudderone · 14-06-2020 3:07pm

Anyone have to misfortune to buy a sunday paper ? The "Price of the green deal" is on the cover of most of them, sunday Indo included, complete with eamon ryans smug mush. Everything is being hiked carbon tax, motor tax, fuel duty, you name it. The only crumb of comfort is this is the greens waterloo, just like labours when they got into coalition with FF. No one would touch them after that.

Grizzly 45 · 14-06-2020 3:27pm

Even when the Irish public finally realise their dreadful mistake of voting in the Watermelons again,the damage will be done again irreparabily when they are turfed out of govt again in the form of more taxes on anything that moves.:(:( You wont see FFG or any of the others rush to abolish any of those "green taxes " either.There will be some excuse on "the UN mandates it to prevent Global warming,or some other hoax.":rolleyes:

tudderone · 14-06-2020 7:01pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Even when the Irish public finally realise their dreadful mistake of voting in the Watermelons again,the damage will be done again irreparabily when they are turfed out of govt again in the form of more taxes on anything that moves.:(:( You wont see FFG or any of the others rush to abolish any of those "green taxes " either.There will be some excuse on "the UN mandates it to prevent Global warming,or some other hoax.":rolleyes:

True grizz. Maybe we should do an Irish version of Seattles Chaz ? Its great, no police, law and order, the police station was looted and burnt, you have to pay to get in, pay to get out, all with the democrat mayors blessing. The world is unravelling, so why not here.

Grizzly 45 · 15-06-2020 8:03pm

We really are fierce bad at rioting here alright.
I put it down to the fact we are such a small country,and the fat that without a doubt were we to face off against the AGS ,Army or POU.We'd proably be hopping bricks and Molotovs off a cousin twice removed or the neighbours down the road nephew.As every family does have someone in the Gardai or the army ,somewhere:P As a Russian once said "Ireland is too small and Russia is too big for easy revolutions."

tudderone · 16-06-2020 10:00pm

Looks like the "Summer of love" in the seattle "Chaz" is coming to an end. The "warlord" Raz Simone who contols the place is driving around in his Tesla handing out ar-15's to complete strangers. This is illegal under laws the democrats brought in, but they support this zone :rolleyes:.

Also the hell angels, mongols and other biker gangs say they are going to head there to clean the place out. The world has gone completely mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVjCaMSl68

yubabill · 17-06-2020 8:00am

Well, looks like we have some interesting info on The Guardian in the UK that will fastidiously be ignored;

Sky News Australia have made a video that shows the paper that's been celebrating protesters throwing Coleston's statue into the drink because he owned slaves was itself.......founded from the profits of slavery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MywICoK5LXg

yubabill · 17-06-2020 8:05am

And while I'm at it, I found out while watching a video from the US academic Thomas Sowell that Irish peasants in the 1820's and 1830's had less to eat than slaves in America.

And that was before they starved to death in the next decade.

So, we all have our grievances - even the English, who were subjugated by the Romans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHr9GRgRw_M

Rosahane · 17-06-2020 12:22pm

The Irish history Facebook page Trasna na Tire had a lecture the other night about the execution of Tom Williams, of the Belfast Brigade of the IRA who was hanged in the Crumlin Road Gaol for his involvement in the killing of RUC police officer named Patrick Murphy during the Northern Campaign 1n 1942.

It's somewhat ironic that a person with a British surname murdered somebody with an Irish surname in the name of Irish nationalism.

Grizzly 45 · 17-06-2020 12:44pm

tudderone wrote: »

Looks like the "Summer of love" in the seattle "Chaz" is coming to an end. The "warlord" Raz Simone who contols the place is driving around in his Tesla handing out ar-15's to complete strangers. This is illegal under laws the democrats brought in, but they support this zone :rolleyes:.

Also the hell angels, mongols and other biker gangs say they are going to head there to clean the place out. The world has gone completely mad.

That will be intresting if they do.Both of those groups are no pushovers and are well used to disipline and taking and giving orders in their heirachary.They also have access to money,and military grade hardware if needed.If they move into and take out CHAZ.THEN there will be a genuine autonomous zone in Seattale and a bunch of snowflakes and kids are going to discover what slavery and real sexual assault is like first hand. Its time that this liberal dipsht governor calls an end to this before someone gets badly hurt or dead.

Nice too that this autonomous zone still has free electricity,internet connections,cell phone coverage and water and sewage.All provided by the fascist nazi and generally evil stste of Seattle and the USA.:rolleyes:
Place should be cut off entirely from all of the above.See how long they hold out then.

Mellor · 17-06-2020 1:21pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Nice too that this autonomous zone still has free electricity,internet connections,cell phone coverage and water and sewage.All provided by the fascist nazi and generally evil stste of Seattle and the USA.:rolleyes:
Place should be cut off entirely from all of the above.See how long they hold out then.

Why would the electricity/internet/phone coverage be free? Or provided by the state by that matter.
AT&T don't care about their protest, they'll get bills like everyone else.

None of the demands involved independence from the US as far as I know - I haven't bother to read the demands. Bunch of idiots. Handing out ARs to kids. Running around waving guns wearing mask. How could that go wrong. :rolleyes:

tudderone · 17-06-2020 1:39pm

Mellor wrote: »

Why would the electricity/internet/phone coverage be free? Or provided by the state by that matter.
AT&T don't care about their protest, they'll get bills like everyone else.

None of the demands involved independence from the US as far as I know - I haven't bother to read the demands. Bunch of idiots. Handing out ARs to kids. Running around waving guns wearing mask. How could that go wrong. :rolleyes:

A bunch of boozed up and high kids with AR's. If you look at the kid in the video, when handed the AR, he hadn't the first clue what to do with it, or how to operate it.

tudderone · 17-06-2020 1:57pm

yubabill wrote: »

Well, looks like we have some interesting info on The Guardian in the UK that will fastidiously be ignored;

Sky News Australia have made a video that shows the paper that's been celebrating protesters throwing Coleston's statue into the drink because he owned slaves was itself.......founded from the profits of slavery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MywICoK5LXg

Any paper that has the likes of George Monbiot, Owen Jones, and Fintan o'toole writing for it deserves any flak they get.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/19/wildlife-killing-deer-diversity-resources-environment

Grizzly 45 · 17-06-2020 1:57pm

Mellor wrote: »

Why would the electricity/internet/phone coverage be free? Or provided by the state by that matter.
AT&T don't care about their protest, they'll get bills like everyone else.

None of the demands involved independence from the US as far as I know - I haven't bother to read the demands. Bunch of idiots. Handing out ARs to kids. Running around waving guns wearing mask. How could that go wrong. :rolleyes:

The key word is AUTONOMOUS!..If you have declared yourself that you are saying you are independent and do not want to have anything to do with the US.So therefore the US should have cut off those facilities,and seeing that the residents of CHAZ did a the veery thing they are blaming Trump for doing.IE they built a barricade or wall to mark their "country" ,"zone "or whatever.They should be contained there in by State and Federal forces of the US. IOW Why is the US still providing these facilities to a new country?
And YES their garbled demands and sinage on their wall suggests they want to be an independent "country"

Grizzly 45 · 17-06-2020 1:58pm

Well so much for the EU "Assault and high capacity magazine ban" in France.:D:D:D
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8424389/Soldiers-streets-Dijon-restore-calm-Chechen-gangs-open-fire.html?fbclid=IwAR3jYRYTwu4pJeHJtoSl0C5tVEQ9b-OkfWEsgzBWGoCT_Lg5AXJZWveKpKM

Uinseann_16 · 17-06-2020 2:06pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Well so much for the EU "Assault and high capacity magazine ban" in France.:D:D:D
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8424389/Soldiers-streets-Dijon-restore-calm-Chechen-gangs-open-fire.html?fbclid=IwAR3jYRYTwu4pJeHJtoSl0C5tVEQ9b-OkfWEsgzBWGoCT_Lg5AXJZWveKpKM

Saw some videos that were supposedly in Dijon on tiktok, seems like the military was quite happy to go in and settle everything down

tudderone · 17-06-2020 2:06pm

Washington DC, a democrat controlled city with strict gun laws :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y65DaNMigLw

tudderone · 17-06-2020 2:09pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Well so much for the EU "Assault and high capacity magazine ban" in France.:D:D:D
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8424389/Soldiers-streets-Dijon-restore-calm-Chechen-gangs-open-fire.html?fbclid=IwAR3jYRYTwu4pJeHJtoSl0C5tVEQ9b-OkfWEsgzBWGoCT_Lg5AXJZWveKpKM

Will this be on RTE, BBC and Sky tonight :rolleyes: ?

Mellor · 17-06-2020 2:33pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

The key word is AUTONOMOUS!..If you have declared yourself that you are saying you are independent and do not want to have anything to do with the US.

That's not what autonomous means.
Autonomity and independence are not the same thing.

None the less, announcing you are autonomous or independent, doesn't make it true. That should be obvious.

So therefore the US should have cut off those facilities,and seeing that the residents of CHAZ did a the veery thing they are blaming Trump for doing.IE they built a barricade or wall to mark their "country" ,"zone "or whatever.They should be contained there in by State and Federal forces of the US. IOW
Why is the US still providing these facilities to a new country?
And YES their garbled demands and sinage on their wall suggests they want to be an independent "country"

I you think that are an actual independent country, then I have a bridge to sell you.

tudderone · 17-06-2020 3:01pm

I wouldn't get all hung up on the legalese, its a bunch of scruffy kids, socialist soyboys, and assorted headbangers trying to set up a communist utopia and failing miserabley.

Mellor · 17-06-2020 4:20pm

tudderone wrote: »

I wouldn't get all hung up on the legalese, its a bunch of scruffy kids, socialist soyboys, and assorted headbangers trying to set up a communist utopia and failing miserabley.

Exactly. It's a bunch dopes who've watch too many dystopia movies.
On no planet are they actual independent or remotely autonomous for that matter.
CHAZ is just a name. CHOP was another one and is probably more accurate.

Grizzly 45 · 17-06-2020 4:27pm

That's not what autonomous means.
Autonomity and independence are not the same thing.

Least of all in that current shthole

None the less, announcing you are autonomous or independent, doesn't make it true. That should be obvious

.

To anyone sane that is.

I you think that are an actual independent country, then I have a bridge to sell you.

If it is between Brooklyn and NYC,I already own it you utter scroundrel Sir!

Cass · 17-06-2020 11:36pm

Seen the promo for the James Comey two part mini series with Gleeson as Trump.

Was reading the synopsis and its about the Russian interference in the 2016 elections Hillary's e-mails and how Comey dealt with both.

Correct me if i'm wrong but the two and half year Muller sideshow investigation proved there was no Russian collusion and Hillary's e-mails have only been in the news again THIS WEEK, although with all else going on you probably didn't hear about it, with her losing her court case to squash a subpoena and how she must now testify about what exactly she did.

As for Comey, he was directly involved in Killary's e-mail scandal, the Russian Hoax, had corrupt and biased agents (Strzok and Page) try to rob Trump of the election, only to be fired. Yet he still makes millions on a book and the proven lies within it have been made into a "mockumentary".

Chicken little and the boy who cried wolf are springing to mind.

Grizzly 45 · 18-06-2020 12:25pm

And now ol walrus face John Bolton has come out with his book on how bad Trump is.Sameo sameo,collusion with the Chinese for a change,and playing both sides in Venezeula and approving of Xi builing concentration camps .Or how the 1st lady used her offical email addy for ONE single email,while a former 1st lady used hers incessently and non stop for Govt busisness,and then went and had her private servers professionaly wiped and bleached is somewhat ignored.

Seems to be the thing these days in DC.Get fired by the orange man and then write your memoirs,or turn on the muck spreader and hope some of it sticks.:rolleyes:

Wonder when Gen Matthais is going to join the "I hate Trump too" bookclub?:rolleyes:

BattleCorp · 18-06-2020 12:36pm

How the fcuk does anybody go about fixing the problems in the US?

It really is a sh1t show of a country and only seems to be getting worse - rapidly.

Uinseann_16 · 18-06-2020 12:44pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

How the fcuk does anybody go about fixing the problems in the US?

It really is a sh1t show of a country and only seems to be getting worse - rapidly.

Move to a red state if you're in a blue one let em have at it:pac:
A decent red state and a more rural area, think montana etc

Cass · 18-06-2020 1:31pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

How the fcuk does anybody go about fixing the problems in the US?

Apparently, according to Joe Biden, you need to elect him to the Presidency so he can fix things. Couldn't do it in 47 years but will as President.

Ok that was a cheap shot, but makes me laugh at the absurdity of the claim.

It really is a sh1t show of a country and only seems to be getting worse - rapidly.

EDIT - I had a big reply written but after reading back on it, it seems a little "heavy" for this forum so i'll leave you with this.

There is no quick fix. I don't know the answer, and it seems nobody does. Social media and the newer generations make any sort of reconciliation impossible. By that i mean everyone has a voice, the ability to stoke the flames, and with nothing else to lose the newer/younger generations see it as an opportunity to possibly get "free money".

It will die down, as all things do, but not before the damage is done or until the next issue pops its head up, and given how this year has gone that could be anything from Alien invasion to a world ending asteroid. :rolleyes:

BattleCorp · 18-06-2020 2:52pm

Cass wrote: »

Social media and the newer generations make any sort of reconciliation impossible. By that i mean everyone has a voice, the ability to stoke the flames, and with nothing else to lose the newer/younger generations see it as an opportunity to possibly get "free money".

Funny enough, I had a talk along these lines with my 77 year old mother at lunch today.

She asked me where freedom of speech had gone. Even she could see that people aren't allowed to have their own view on things any more. You must agree with the group or else you are shot down.

And at 77 she was able to see that the way the news is delivered nowadays, we aren't actually told the news, we are told how to think about the news. We aren't allowed to make up our own minds any more.

tudderone · 18-06-2020 3:07pm

Uinseann_16 wrote: »

Move to a red state if you're in a blue one let em have at it:pac:
A decent red state and a more rural area, think montana etc

The red states are having an influx of people from blue, and instead of fitting in they are bringing their democrat ways with them, especially states around Commiefornia. The same thing is happening in Canada, people who can no longer stick living in the cities are heading to rural areas, and then surprised and appalled when they find they are surrounded by gun toting rednecks.

tudderone · 18-06-2020 3:27pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

Funny enough, I had a talk along these lines with my 77 year old mother at lunch today.

She asked me where freedom of speech had gone. Even she could see that people aren't allowed to have their own view on things any more. You must agree with the group or else you are shot down.

And at 77 she was able to see that the way the news is delivered nowadays, we aren't actually told the news, we are told how to think about the news. We aren't allowed to make up our own minds any more.

Look at people like Dr. David Starkey, Laurance Fox, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Douglas Murray etc. They go onto the likes of Newsnight etc and disagree with the assembled lefties and there is outrage, its not real outrage, its just they don't don't like whats been said and so i these people must be silenced/deplatformed.

Colleges and universities used to be places where dangerous ideas were debated and challenged, now they are safe spaces where any ideas other than the accepted ones are now banned.

Orwell seen all this coming 70 years ago, but it seems most people want to ignore him.

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