What shoes you wearing now and what next?

fennor72 · 10-09-2019 7:25pm

Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote:

No need to break them in

So would you be confident enough to race with them after a couple of small runs

MY BAD · 10-09-2019 7:44pm

fennor72 wrote: »

So would you be confident enough to race with them after a couple of small runs

To be honest I'm only racing shorter distances these day 10k and less. But they feel so good I don't see any issues using them box fresh on longer races

Lombardo123 · 11-09-2019 1:13pm

What's the opinion on whether a new pair or runners would be needed for DCM?

Bought Glycerin 17 in July but have 350k on them (and I believe they are good for 700k(?) .. But with the final push on training for DCM I'm wondering would I need to buy a fresh pair before (open to suggestions on what) or are they typically solid up until that recommendation and then start breaking down.

I'll need all the help I can get so if I need new shoes, no issue getting them as the first few runs are always so comfortable with them.

Singer · 11-09-2019 1:20pm

Lombardo123 wrote: »

What's the opinion on whether a new pair or runners would be needed for DCM?

Bought Glycerin 17 in July but have 350k on them (and I believe they are good for 700k(?) .. But with the final push on training for DCM I'm wondering would I need to buy a fresh pair before (open to suggestions on what) or are they typically solid up until that recommendation and then start breaking down.

I'll need all the help I can get so if I need new shoes, no issue getting them as the first few runs are always so comfortable with them.

A fresh pair of runners is generally a good idea for a marathon. You generally want the runners to be not worn out and provide plenty of support. Older runners might have weak points that could become a problem at mile 22 or whatever. If you like the Glycerins, then get another pair. Do a long run in them before the marathon, and then enjoy the as-good-as-new runner smell on the day as a treat

Damo 2k9 · 11-09-2019 2:25pm

Have had the Zoom Fly 3 for a couple of weeks now, about 110 miles or so in them. Even tho they are the cheaper version of the NEXT%, you can still feel that plate working in the midsole. Although since starting with them, I have picked up a couple of niggles (not sure if these are contributing!!)

The sole of my left foot is really sore after a run, bruised like feeling almost. My ITB is acting up again and flaring up on the long runs since starting with these.

Other than that, I find them brilliant, I have very narrow feet and find them a great fit.

Rossi7 · 11-09-2019 4:03pm

Damo 2k9 wrote: »

Have had the Zoom Fly 3 for a couple of weeks now, about 110 miles or so in them. Even tho they are the cheaper version of the NEXT%, you can still feel that plate working in the midsole. Although since starting with them, I have picked up a couple of niggles (not sure if these are contributing!!)

The sole of my left foot is really sore after a run, bruised like feeling almost. My ITB is acting up again and flaring up on the long runs since starting with these.

Other than that, I find them brilliant, I have very narrow feet and find them a great fit.

I've had the same issue as well, ball of my feet are very sore after a long run.Great for the short stuff but I'll be going back to the reliable Pegasus Turbo's for the marathon

pgibbo · 12-09-2019 9:51am

partyguinness wrote: »

I have the Nike ZoomX Vaporfly Next%- only got them last month and ran my first event yesterday- 20miler. Ran a few 10-15 milers in the last month. Bar a pair of Nike track spikes they are the first Nike running shoe I have ever bought.

I know mentally there is always an initial bounce when you get new runners but I am defo putting in faster times without noticing it. I have come off runs shocked at the quickness of the KMs and not even feeling it.

During the 20 miles event yesterday I did not get any cramps and the feet felt very fresh and feel quite good today- there was no soreness or even hint of the general soreness you get 19-20 miles in.

I ran the same event 2 years ago with more training behind me and I was in pieces at the end. Yesterday I may as well have ran a cheeky 10k. Even my buddy who I met at the line remarked that I seemed unusually fresh. I put down the last 2 miles in less than 14 minutes which is quick for me and didn't even feel it. Perhaps it was just a good day.

The shoes defo had way more to give if I kept going and I have two marathons lined up before the end of the year.

In fact as ridiculous as it sounds I am going too fast sometimes but they defo propel you forward.

Other than that I use On Cloudflow- on 3rd pair and love them. The Hoka Clifton 5 were disappointing compared to the Clifton 4 I had last year.

I'm a big fan of the Cloudflow also. Is the sizing the same for Nike as for the Cloudflow? What's the Nike equivelant of the Cloudflow? Curious to try a pair of Nike given how popular they've become. Cheers.

P.

deisedude · 12-09-2019 11:52am

pgibbo wrote: »

I'm a big fan of the Cloudflow also. Is the sizing the same for Nike as for the Cloudflow? What's the Nike equivelant of the Cloudflow? Curious to try a pair of Nike given how popular they've become. Cheers.

P.

The Nike Structure range has more cushioning if thats what you are looking for. Previous versions were very good but Nike Zoom Structure 22 feels very heavy. Not a fan at all

py · 15-09-2019 8:19pm

Anyone seen any deals on Pegasus 36 online? Looking to pick up pair fairly sharp after reading the reviews and my existing runners being almost out of life.

Swashbuckler · 15-09-2019 8:29pm

py wrote:

Anyone seen any deals on Pegasus 36 online? Looking to pick up pair fairly sharp after reading the reviews and my existing runners being almost out of life.

80 quid on GAA store including postage

py · 15-09-2019 8:37pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

80 quid on GAA store including postage

Was just coming back to post that myself, thanks!

Tipptatlers · 15-09-2019 9:30pm

Looking at getting the Hoka Carbon x size 10s. Can’t see them anywhere online. Anyone any links please?

overpronator · 16-09-2019 10:18am

Have Adidas discontinued the Tempo? Getting tricky to source them online

Cartman78 · 16-09-2019 12:19pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

80 quid on GAA store including postage

Checked there - no half sizes unfortunately

I'd recommend registering with the Nike website - they have regular-ish flash sales and you get 20% off during your birthday month.

Or the Nike shop in Kildare Village

BeepBeep67 · 16-09-2019 1:32pm

overpronator wrote: »

Have Adidas discontinued the Tempo? Getting tricky to source them online

Time to move to the Boston's, I see Amazon have a good selection of sizes.

overpronator · 16-09-2019 2:33pm

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Time to move to the Boston's, I see Amazon have a good selection of sizes.

This had occurred to me alright Dom, think you've run in both? Assume the boston are fully neutral whilst the tempo are neutral-ish? What do you make of the current Bostons?

BeepBeep67 · 16-09-2019 2:40pm

overpronator wrote: »

This had occurred to me alright Dom, think you've run in both? Assume the boston are fully neutral whilst the tempo are neutral-ish? What do you make of the current Bostons?

Just picked up a pair of 8's, for me probably their best update.
The Boston has mild stability, weighs 250 grams for my size 10's, fit true to size, have a nice seamless upper now with the stripes printed on rather than the traditional stitched on.
Personally I think it's a classic, great all-rounder, one to throw in the bag for work travel or hols.

I'm pacing the half on Saturday, will wear these if you want to take a look?

boydkev · 18-09-2019 10:35am

fennor72 wrote: »

Thanks for that, I nearly bought a pair of rincons last night with the plan to use them for Dublin, let us know what you think about the carbon X, the appeal with the rincon was the cushioning and they are very light

I have done 3 runs in the Carbon X,
8 Miles with intervals (3x600m)
12 Miles Steady
9 Miles with intervals (5x1k)

So after 30 miles they feel Good and have softened a bit from first run. They are very comfortable and fit really well(Half size bigger than Nike).
What has surprised me is the transition during ground contact from heal to toe. I can t fault the shoe yet, But i still have to see how they feel after my next 20 miler and looking forward to using them for DCM.

py · 18-09-2019 11:24am

Swashbuckler wrote: »

80 quid on GAA store including postage

They arrived pretty quickly, won't get a chance to test them out till next week but if they're decent I'll probably order another pair.

Swashbuckler · 18-09-2019 6:42pm

py wrote:

They arrived pretty quickly, won't get a chance to test them out till next week but if they're decent I'll probably order another pair.

Was my plan too til I realised size 9 were gone. I love them.

boydkev · 19-09-2019 7:14am

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Was my plan too til I realised size 9 were gone. I love them.

Lifestyle have a few for €80 if you dont mind them being Crimson Red, I just received my size 8's.

https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/mens-air-zoom-pegasus-36-12195441.html

Swashbuckler · 19-09-2019 7:53am

boydkev wrote:

Lifestyle have a few for â‚¬80 if you dont mind them being Crimson Red, I just received my size 8's.

Legend man. Thanks for that. Got sorted.

Cartman78 · 19-09-2019 10:22am

boydkev wrote: »

Lifestyle have a few for €80 if you dont mind them being Crimson Red, I just received my size 8's.

https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/mens-air-zoom-pegasus-36-12195441.html

Another confirmed sale here :pac::pac::pac:

Hard to turn them down at that price tbh - will be my 3rd pair of Pegasus.

Just broke out my latest ones last weekend in Charleville ahead of the DCM so probably won't run in these until Spring/Summer (have a few other shoes in rotation as well

)

Big question now is whether to hide them in the attic or the shed

Swashbuckler · 19-09-2019 10:24am

Cartman78 wrote:

Just broke out my latest ones last weekend in Charleville ahead of the DCM so probably won't run in these until Spring/Summer (have a few other shoes in rotation as well )

I have so many pairs of runners at this stage I need to start ignoring this thread. Haha.

deisedude · 19-09-2019 10:29am

Cartman78 wrote: »

Another confirmed sale here :pac::pac::pac:

Hard to turn them down at that price tbh - will be my 3rd pair of Pegasus.

Just broke out my latest ones last weekend in Charleville ahead of the DCM so probably won't run in these until Spring/Summer (have a few other shoes in rotation as well )

Big question now is whether to hide them in the attic or the shed

Hide them in the handbags she is hiding from you

Cartman78 · 19-09-2019 3:02pm

deisedude wrote: »

Hide them in the handbags she is hiding from you

Haha...good point....will have to be careful with the XC Spikes though :pac:

ariana` · 20-09-2019 12:06pm

deisedude wrote: »

Hide them in the handbags she is hiding from you

Or maybe she is hiding runners too :P

3 new pairs recently but still found myself checking to see if Lifestyle had the women's version for €80 as well, thankfully they didn't :pac:

event · 21-09-2019 8:35pm

Anyone use Saucony fastwitch 9s?

I need support runners and these are support but for racing, very light. Be interested in them for 5k, 10k, maybe up to half marathon

Swashbuckler · 23-09-2019 1:34pm

Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote:

Anyone run in the Hoka one one Bondi 6? I'm thinking of getting a cushioned shoe for the winter when I can't run on grass

Some good deals on Hoka on sportsshoes.com at the mo

Damo 2k9 · 23-09-2019 2:51pm

Damo 2k9 wrote: »

Have had the Zoom Fly 3 for a couple of weeks now, about 110 miles or so in them. Even tho they are the cheaper version of the NEXT%, you can still feel that plate working in the midsole. Although since starting with them, I have picked up a couple of niggles (not sure if these are contributing!!)

The sole of my left foot is really sore after a run, bruised like feeling almost. My ITB is acting up again and flaring up on the long runs since starting with these.

Other than that, I find them brilliant, I have very narrow feet and find them a great fit.

I think the problem's ive been having with these is the slower runs. I dont think the plate mixes well with slow running, giving a couple of problems to my feet, clutching at straws maybe

I wore them for the HM on Sat and not a problem at all, found them brilliant. Similarly, I find them great in sessions for the faster stuff too. They really are a 'racing' shoe.

deisedude · 23-09-2019 3:50pm

Damo 2k9 wrote: »

I think the problem's ive been having with these is the slower runs. I dont think the plate mixes well with slow running, giving a couple of problems to my feet, clutching at straws maybe

I wore them for the HM on Sat and not a problem at all, found them brilliant. Similarly, I find them great in sessions for the faster stuff too. They really are a 'racing' shoe.

I've only done 1 run in mine but found them awful uncomfortable in the warm up and then when i started the tempo part of my sesion they felt fine! Its really odd

Klopp · 23-09-2019 7:31pm

First day of autum and winter only around the corner, can anyone recommend pair of runners that are water proof? My current runners ( Sketchers ) let the water in. I also have a pair of Nike Pegasus but i don't find them comfortable at all. I am more on the bike but taking up running and only starting out and would like to keep up rain, hail or snow.

skyblue46 · 23-09-2019 9:23pm

Damo 2k9 wrote: »

I think the problem's ive been having with these is the slower runs. I dont think the plate mixes well with slow running, giving a couple of problems to my feet, clutching at straws maybe

I wore them for the HM on Sat and not a problem at all, found them brilliant. Similarly, I find them great in sessions for the faster stuff too. They really are a 'racing' shoe.

deisedude wrote: »

I've only done 1 run in mine but found them awful uncomfortable in the warm up and then when i started the tempo part of my sesion they felt fine! Its really odd

I read a review on one of the shoe review sites (possibly runningshoeguru but I can't remember) that suggested the plate really only offers benefits at paces at or below 6:50/7:00 mins per mile. You have to be able to impart a certain force to activate the spring.

Damo 2k9 · 23-09-2019 9:52pm

skyblue46 wrote: »

I read a review on one of the shoe review sites (possibly runningshoeguru but I can't remember) that suggested the plate really only offers benefits at paces at or below 6:50/7:00 mins per mile. You have to be able to impart a certain force to activate the spring.

Thanks for that! I think I remember u mentioning something like this before actually.

So at slower paces, the plate may be restricing your foot/sole from 'flexing' properly perhaps?

Cona · 23-09-2019 10:11pm

Klopp wrote: »

First day of autum and winter only around the corner, can anyone recommend pair of runners that are water proof? My current runners ( Sketchers ) let the water in. I also have a pair of Nike Pegasus but i don't find them comfortable at all. I am more on the bike but taking up running and only starting out and would like to keep up rain, hail or snow.

You could get trail running shoes like Salomon speed cross etc but I really wouldn’t... you don’t actually need waterproofing in shoes, just ensure you are wearing good socks and your all set.

23-09-2019 10:13pm

Klopp wrote: »

First day of autum and winter only around the corner, can anyone recommend pair of runners that are water proof? My current runners ( Sketchers ) let the water in. I also have a pair of Nike Pegasus but i don't find them comfortable at all. I am more on the bike but taking up running and only starting out and would like to keep up rain, hail or snow.

There's no point. Rain will get in, guaranteed. Having waterproof runners just means it can't get out again, and you've to do the rest of your rain with water sloshing around in your shoes

Enduro · 23-09-2019 11:32pm

I have thousands and thousands of miles of experience running with waterproof shoes. They can and often do make a huge difference. To be really effective you do need a system, not just the shoes (running gaiters make a big difference if the shoes are going into water above ankle level. Built in gaiters are more effective again), but for some conditions the shoes on their own will be more than enough to make a significant notable difference.

I've never come across water proof road shoes, but there are plenty of waterproof trail shoes. I wouldn't be too worried about waterproof road shoes for anything under two or three hours anyway.

There are a few different technologies available as well. Goretex is the oldest and by far the most common (usually implemented as a layer within the shoe). I'm sponsored by Columbia, so get to wear any of their shoes I choose. They have what I consider to be the best waterproof system, which is Outdry Extreme (implemented as an outer layer, keeping the whole shoe dry). But as I say, I'm sponsored by them, so look up these things yourself to learn the options.

I do plenty of mixed terrain running, so often run on roads in trail shoes. They're fine. No real problem once their not too off-road style. But I wouldn't be doing any road only racing, or even training, in them unless the weather was apocalyptic and I was going to be out for a looooong time.

Bahanaman · 27-09-2019 8:21pm

After some super customer support from Saucony when I had some trouble breaking in a pair of Liberty ISO (I was getting terrible hot spots under the balls of both feet after only a couple of miles every time I ran in them) I have been offered a new pair of runners from their range. I've chosen the Omni ISO 2. Does anyone here have any experience with these?

py · 30-09-2019 3:09pm

py wrote: »

They arrived pretty quickly, won't get a chance to test them out till next week but if they're decent I'll probably order another pair.

Have enjoyed my first few runs in them so ordered another pair.

Slideways · 04-10-2019 7:41am

I’ve been running on Sauconys for a while as Brooks messed with the Glycerine and I went from loving them to not liking them at all.
Run in the ISO Ride now for long runs.

I see lots of people running in 4% and Next%. I was thinking if they are that much of an advantage is it a fair playing field to not run in them?

Anyway, heard a whisper that Saucony might be bringing out an alternative to the Nike. Has anyone heard similar?

overpronator · 04-10-2019 5:10pm

Been breaking in my first pair of Adios 4. An absolutely amazing shoe for me, fits true to size, know others have had issues there. Had been using the Mizuno hitogami for a good few years but it got killed off. Had issues with the Sonic, so called replacement

It makes me curious about their other takumi variants of flats for say 5k, as the adios feels like a decent amount of shoe, feel like I could do a fair amount of easy volume in the adios, 90 mins easy long run at least.

justfortherecor · 07-10-2019 10:07am

overpronator wrote: »

Been breaking in my first pair of Adios 4. An absolutely amazing shoe for me, fits true to size, know others have had issues there. Had been using the Mizuno hitogami for a good few years but it got killed off. Had issues with the Sonic, so called replacement

It makes me curious about their other takumi variants of flats for say 5k, as the adios feels like a decent amount of shoe, feel like I could do a fair amount of easy volume in the adios, 90 mins easy long run at least.

In a similar boat to yourself - bought a pair of Adios 4 a few weeks back (picked up a pair for €90 on probikekit) and have been very slowly breaking them in. A little snug fit but will give them a proper go for a 26k this weekend before making the decision to go with them or stick with the old reliable Wave Riders for the DCM.

Loving the sleek profile of them though and they've felt pretty fast on some of the shorter tempo runs I've done to date on them anyway. Just couldn't contemplate spending the €185 extra for a pair of the Vaporflys; think the Adios a more than adequate alternative based on experience to date.

4Ad · 17-12-2019 5:06pm

I wore the Nike Vapourfly 4% today for the 1st time.
I managed 4 individual miles under 6 minutes, I have never ran that fast before.
As Party guinness said in a previous post you do a get an initial bounce in new trainers.

Slight downside a bit of a burn on the sole of one foot.

fennor72 · 18-12-2019 12:46am

Has anyone ran in the Pegasus shield, they are supposed to add a little bit more protection from the wet with better grip.

OffalyMedic · 18-12-2019 12:07pm

Have started running a small bit lately and would like to keep it up. Currently doing couch25k again but this time I want to progress onto 10k and maybe even a 1/2 marathon in 2020. Looking to get myself a Christmas present of runners. What's my best option for <â‚¬100. Slow runner 7mins/km

Have found the following that I like the look of
SAUCONY FREEDOM ISO 2 - 70euro
Mizuno Wave Sonic 2 - 72 euro
Nike Air Zoom Pegasus 36 - 76euro
Mizuno Wave Shadow 2 - 84 euro
Saucony Liberty ISO - 84euro
Nike Epic React FlyKnit 2 - 90euro
Mizuno Waveknit R2- 95euro

Any thoughts on the above or suggestions.

pconn062 · 18-12-2019 3:20pm

OffalyMedic wrote: »

Have started running a small bit lately and would like to keep it up. Currently doing couch25k again but this time I want to progress onto 10k and maybe even a 1/2 marathon in 2020. Looking to get myself a Christmas present of runners. What's my best option for <â‚¬100. Slow runner 7mins/km

Have found the following that I like the look of
SAUCONY FREEDOM ISO 2 - 70euro
Mizuno Wave Sonic 2 - 72 euro
Nike Air Zoom Pegasus 36 - 76euro
Mizuno Wave Shadow 2 - 84 euro
Saucony Liberty ISO - 84euro
Nike Epic React FlyKnit 2 - 90euro
Mizuno Waveknit R2- 95euro

Any thoughts on the above or suggestions.

Pegasus is a great all round neutral runner.

partyguinness · 18-12-2019 3:35pm

4Ad wrote: »

I wore the Nike Vapourfly 4% today for the 1st time.
I managed 4 individual miles under 6 minutes, I have never ran that fast before.
As Party guinness said in a previous post you do a get an initial bounce in new trainers.

Slight downside a bit of a burn on the sole of one foot.

Sorry it is the Vaporfly Next% that I have...my bad...:o.

Just on that, I save them for races now and have not worn them since Chester marathon in October. The soles are showing wear..!

Back to On Cloud Flow for my day to day road runs.

jfh · 18-12-2019 7:56pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Sorry it is the Vaporfly Next% that I have...my bad...:o.

Just on that, I save them for races now and have not worn them since Chester marathon in October. The soles are showing wear..!

Back to On Cloud Flow for my day to day road runs.

What's the general consensus on how much mileage these take?

Swashbuckler · 18-12-2019 9:05pm

pconn062 wrote:

Pegasus is a great all round neutral runner.

Agreed

Down South · 18-12-2019 9:57pm

yeah there's a few references on line

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9697734

What shoes you wearing now and what next?

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