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Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 706 ✭✭✭Caprica6


    Doctors think you need to give it time first, they generally hope it will go away on it own, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, they don't like to dole out the meds in the first meeting. They may even recommend breathing exercises for you or use a brown paper bag to help when you having an attack at first


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 706 ✭✭✭Caprica6


    Just depends on the doc and their opinion I am afraid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Caprica6 wrote: »
    Doctors think you need to give it time first, they generally hope it will go away on it own, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, they don't like to dole out the meds in the first meeting. They may even recommend breathing exercises for you or use a brown paper bag to help when you having an attack at first


    That's what's happened so far mate. Have only met with him once and I was suprised how casual things have been

    He took lots of tests to make sure i was healthy. He called me and told me the results were ok and asked how i was. i told him things were worse and he said '' come back in 2 months time''


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 706 ✭✭✭Caprica6


    Well least the tests were ok :) I know your possibly miffed even frustrated but he just doesn't want to give you pill unless its a last resort, I had panic attacks years ago granted I don't think they were cripplingly major and they fecked of after a few years. A lot of people get them.

    The more you work yourself up the worse you make it on yourself unfortunately it can't be helped sometimes. Try do what he suggested least you tried if its not for you then go back for the pills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Caprica6 wrote: »
    Well least the tests were ok :) I know your possibly miffed even frustrated but he just doesn't want to give you pill unless its a last resort, I had panic attacks years ago granted I don't think they were cripplingly major and they fecked of after a few years. A lot of people get them.

    The more you work yourself up the worse you make it on yourself unfortunately it can't be helped sometimes. Try do what he suggested least you tried if its not for you then go back for the pills.

    my problem is battling it for the whole day.. 6 hours trying to stay calm isnt easy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    Did your doctor just send you away or did he ask you to try some things in the meantime? Did he give you some exercises or did he suggest going to a counsellor? If he didn't suggest anything else I would consider that irresponsible and I would suggest you go to another doctor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭loveisdivine


    Got my first meeting with the psychotherapist tonight. A little nervous I guess.

    Feel in a bit of a funk today but can't really put my finger on why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭loubian


    I came off my medication about a month ago. I've been having ups and downs. Some days I feel great, am so glad I'm off my meds n feel really proud of myself and then other days I just get so down about things n can't get back up. Like today, I'm just so so angry and I don't know why. My little girl has been screaming all day n I just want to burst. I can't stand it. I'm going to crack up. I live with my mam so get plenty of help so feel guilty for even feeling like I'm struggling. I hate that they come in from work n can make her smile n laugh when she just cries around me. My step father makes me feel extra guilty for the help i get. My job is really really getting me down but I'm a single mother so I need to work. I don't know if the anger and low mood is a sign of my moods or if it's just now and again. I can't distinguish if it's because I've come off my medication. I have no money for the doc, I'm just over the threshold for medical card n tbh the reason I stopped my meds was because I couldn't afford them. I would like to use exercise as a stimulant for serotonin but it's so exhausting to even get through a day sometimes that I have no extra ambition to exercise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭loubian


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Hi. Thanks for posting.
    What age is your little one? I have a small girl who is 2 and I mind her on my own for three days. I would get the same way sometimes as she is very busy. Best bet is to just take little time outs. If i'm upset or feeling down she picks up on it. I suspect that's the same for you. The bond between a mother and child being even closer. I'd bet she'd be a lot different with you if you felt a bit better in yourself.

    Have you tried counselling? How's your diet?
    Could you start with some light walks?

    She's 15 months. She's starting to defy me and it's so frustrating because she's still young enough that she doesn't fully understand but I feel like tearing my hair out. I try and take time out but she just screams n that makes me more tense. The only time out I get is when she sleeps n a lot of the time I feel I'm watching the clock waiting for nap/bed time :(

    I'm currently in cbt, I have been for the last 2 years. I've cut it down to once a month as I thought I was ready but maybe I'm not. Feel like a failure for still needing it. There's a lot of stuff going on for me at the moment.

    My diet is awful. That's another thing that gets me down - n I'm terrified my little girl is gonna end up obese because of me. Even though I do cut her up fruit, n rarely give her junk, I just wish I could put the same care into my own diet.

    I walk nearly every day but I feel I need to get fit. I'm very overweight so another thing to make me too reluctant to do some exercise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    loubian wrote: »
    She's 15 months. She's starting to defy me and it's so frustrating because she's still young enough that she doesn't fully understand but I feel like tearing my hair out. I try and take time out but she just screams n that makes me more tense. The only time out I get is when she sleeps n a lot of the time I feel I'm watching the clock waiting for nap/bed time :(

    I'm currently in cbt, I have been for the last 2 years. I've cut it down to once a month as I thought I was ready but maybe I'm not. Feel like a failure for still needing it. There's a lot of stuff going on for me at the moment.

    My diet is awful. That's another thing that gets me down - n I'm terrified my little girl is gonna end up obese because of me. Even though I do cut her up fruit, n rarely give her junk, I just wish I could put the same care into my own diet.

    I walk nearly every day but I feel I need to get fit. I'm very overweight so another thing to make me too reluctant to do some exercise.

    Can you ask your family to take over for a day. Just enough to get some rest. You sound like you really need a break. Maybe go for a swim and clear your head.

    No harm in still doing CBT. No failure in it. You're grand there.

    If you're walking everyday then your diet is the main problem at the moment. Have you tried doing a plan or motivations or something like that? A little weight loss would be a great kick start.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    hello, loubian, hope you can work things out,
    it seems to me a sorry state of affairs that the cost of medication would stop someone from being able to get help.
    but it is the current state of affairs no matter what i think.
    good luck to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    not a reference to me once having a woman or anything like that...
    i just love the particular sound of this slow blues track.
    just on the off chance that anyone reading this thread might listen to it and enjoy it.
    it's not really that slow, which is what i like about it, but the vibe is slow.
    enjoy, or disgard, at your leisure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    What's the story 53?


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    What's the story 53?

    i'm ok cz.
    awful situation with accommodation.

    otherwise quite complicated too to be honest.

    listen to that tune if you can, even a minute of it, it's truly beautiful:)
    i love it:D

    been reading over the rental agreement for my house in which there are problems.
    just met another flatmate on the stairs now on the way from the bathroom.
    he and eveyone else feels intimidated by the still present
    heroin addict(only 1 left now) in the living room.
    i reckon from the lease i can not pay rent for 3 weeks and just sacrifice deposit. looks like my best option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    there is all sorts of talk like the houses etc belong to underground organisations.
    you know how it can be in the north. they tell you stuff to intimidate you.
    i reckon if i give them notice i will never see deposit back so tell them eg
    my money is late coming through, will pay you in 3 weeks...then disappear.
    it is dishonest yes but christ this kind of thing doesn't deserve honesty.
    people are frightened to go into the kitchen with an addict shooting up in there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    rent was due today but didn't pay as stipulates in contract,
    mine is til april, that if early termination then no deposit returning will be going on.
    sorry guys don't want to make this a rent law thread, just replied in bits to cz


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Why stay where you are(in the city)? Are you from there?

    Some lovely places up North- Banbridge, Derry, Newcastle and Enniskillen(bit quiet but nice).

    i am very very far from being from here.
    was a means to an end.
    i got very unlucky with where i lived.
    not the location so much, more the other tenants and landlord.
    looking into in the future living in derry and commuting.
    this place is a bloody joke.
    at least 8 people to a 5 person max house. by law.
    a lad doing heroin and coke and god knows what else in
    the living room oftentimes with his mates asked around.
    hanging around with the blessing of the landlord.
    how do i know who else seemingly at random has a key?
    people who don't know how to use a western lavatory.
    so as it stands the kitchen, living room, bathroom,
    all are out of bounds for me.
    sorry about the rant guys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree




    listening to the blues this evening.
    give this a minute...see if you like it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    Hi 53
    was just thinking how were you. Didn't see U post for a bit.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    handbagmad wrote: »
    Hi 53
    was just thinking how were you. Didn't see U post for a bit.

    thank you.
    i didn't post for a while alright was quite sick,
    been in bed for a few days. think i just felt a bit run down with all the stress
    really. family stuff and my accommodation nightmare:eek:
    you ok handbag. go listen to that jimi hendrix track it's beautiful:)
    hope you are alright.how's things?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭poeticmakaveli


    just reading the latest posts! if u have access to movies, try 'crossroads' its a nice movie about the blues,simple relaxing movie! sorry about the crap that's going on in your accommodation! i wouldn't care about parting with my deposit,up and gone i would be! have you no friends/family to stay with?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    fiftythree wrote: »
    thank you.
    i didn't post for a while alright was quite sick,
    been in bed for a few days. think i just felt a bit run down with all the stress
    really. family stuff and my accommodation nightmare:eek:
    you ok handbag. go listen to that jimi hendrix track it's beautiful:)
    hope you are alright.how's things?

    Ah im alright, not a great weekend here either mate. Pretty stressful too.
    Working through it though, I think!
    Ahh mr Hendrix can do no wrong, genius musician


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    We are like owls on here. All out at night. Mad owls even


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    We are like owls on here. All out at night. Mad owls even

    haha
    Not mad owls, just a little special owls ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Nothing to see here....Just some special owls. The special owl gathering thread :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    handbagmad wrote: »
    Ah im alright, not a great weekend here either mate. Pretty stressful too.
    Working through it though, I think!
    Ahh mr Hendrix can do no wrong, genius musician

    i love my instrumentals.
    listen to this one handbag.
    it sort of floats about and never really goes anywhere.
    all the better for i say, or would you say it goes somewhere?
    why go anywhere, stay where you are and just play.
    this is so abstract/stupid a way to talk about music!!!anyway.
    what do you think?




    bloody stress. what have humans done to themselves?
    hope you are ok.enjoy the night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    just reading the latest posts! if u have access to movies, try 'crossroads' its a nice movie about the blues,simple relaxing movie! sorry about the crap that's going on in your accommodation! i wouldn't care about parting with my deposit,up and gone i would be! have you no friends/family to stay with?

    seen that though can't remember so well.
    love Robert Johnson though.

    i reckon i have no choice but to do a semi runner.
    know lots of you will advise against but this place is messed up guys.
    i would always be a right down the middle honest chap but
    this is, as i said, messed up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    my never ending effort to get handbagmad into freddie king this seems like!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    I will listen 53 one my personal Hendrix favs is Angel, can't link it from the phone
    beautiful simple song


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭poeticmakaveli


    fiftythree wrote:
    seen that though can't remember so well. love Robert Johnson though.

    fiftythree wrote:
    i reckon i have no choice but to do a semi runner. know lots of you will advise against but this place is messed up guys. i would always be a right down the middle honest chap but this is, as i said, messed up.


    from what i can gather,it sounds like hell! I'd be sorting out other accommodation as quick as i can tomorrow! drugs in the same house as me just wouldn't happen, peace of mind is more important, i don't know your financial situation but if its OK then tomorrow I'd be gone!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    handbagmad wrote: »
    I will listen 53 one my personal Hendrix favs is Angel, can't link it from the phone
    beautiful simple song

    lovely tune handbag.
    works well as in an instrumental too,
    think srv may have done it that way?
    do you know 51st anniversary?
    off some album i can't recall by hendrix but so simple a tune and so bittersweet
    lyrics too. usually, as you know!!,i don't go for lyrics but loved that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    fiftythree wrote: »
    my never ending effort to get handbagmad into freddie king this seems like!!!

    I liked it. Felt like I should be sipping whiskey and smoking a cigar listening to that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    from what i can gather,it sounds like hell! I'd be sorting out other accommodation as quick as i can tomorrow! drugs in the same house as me just wouldn't happen, peace of mind is more important, i don't know your financial situation but if its OK then tomorrow I'd be gone!

    can't get out tomorrow.
    may be able to by 3 weeks time.
    thanks for the support.
    was glad to hear tonight from other housemates and
    it wasn't just me who objected.
    seems the problem is from a mate of landloards/his handiman
    having keys to all the houses from back in the day.
    tells us all to keep quiet,quite threateningly.
    all feels wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    handbagmad wrote: »
    I liked it. Felt like I should be sipping whiskey and smoking a cigar listening to that!

    great!!
    yeah so that's sort of what i was saying, in a way, i think??:confused:
    the tune doesn't really go anywhere it just stays there.
    so you'd only naturally want to stall during a listen and have a cigar.
    i recruited a freddie fan!!

    how do you feel about this one..it has lyrics:eek:



    generic but what do you think?
    just look at the sweat on the band!!!!that's proper playing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    With lyrics :-) shock horror

    What U think of srv...Riviera Paradise
    Again can't link, crap phone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭poeticmakaveli


    landlord must be a joke then! he wouldnt threaten me coz my nature is not be walked on but i understand you don't want trouble either. If you are not prepared to contact guards/police when they are shooting up then unfortunately you are in a bad situation and there is no other option then to leave as quick as possible! hope it works out as quick as possible for you and you find your peace of mind and can sleep peacefully because at the end of the day its all that matters! ill check up again to see how you are getting on!
    good luck and move forward!


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    handbagmad wrote: »
    With lyrics :-) shock horror

    What U think of srv...Riviera Paradise
    Again can't link, crap phone

    i like riviera paradise a lot, and most of of his stuff.
    play guitar myself, can't do his stuff right his strings too heavy for my tiny weak fingers:mad:
    all sounds very heavy.
    lenny one of my favourites.

    he does loads songs that revlove around same vibe.

    loved it when he played with AK....



    poor lad, went before his time, no doubt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    landlord must be a joke then! he wouldnt threaten me coz my nature is not be walked on but i understand you don't want trouble either. If you are not prepared to contact guards/police when they are shooting up then unfortunately you are in a bad situation and there is no other option then to leave as quick as possible! hope it works out as quick as possible for you and you find your peace of mind and can sleep peacefully because at the end of the day its all that matters! ill check up again to see how you are getting on!
    good luck and move forward!

    cheers buddy. you're probably right in that i should do more
    in the situation but i am precarious now and i can't afford to be homeless
    again. no i don't have family or friend's support so
    i am keeping it together in such a way as i can live day to day without too much hassle.
    law and order and by the books is all well and good but sometimes on the ground
    things don't pan out like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭fiftythree


    different than usual version..i like different takes on things..but here's to you hangbagmad....



    goodnight all, fly away to wherever you belong. or want to belong.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭loubian


    I've decided to go back on my medication and I'm going to take it properly this time. I'm snapping at my daughter for the tiniest things n I don't like who I've become. I was researching last night and came across borderline personality disorder and I almost complete fit the bill. I'm going to say it to my therapist when I see him next.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Anyone here feel they might suffer of Borderline Personality Disorder? I relate to a lot of what the diagnosis says. There is no medication for it and it seems like a tough condition to tackle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Anyone here feel they might suffer of Borderline Personality Disorder? I relate to a lot of what the diagnosis says. There is no medication for it and it seems like a tough condition to tackle.

    I've wondered that for a while now but I never brought it up with the doctor for fear of losing the semi-stability I have on current meds.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭loubian


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Anyone here feel they might suffer of Borderline Personality Disorder? I relate to a lot of what the diagnosis says. There is no medication for it and it seems like a tough condition to tackle.

    I do. I'm going to mention it to my doc next time I'm there but also get tests for an under active thyroid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Frankly I think diagnoses for mental problems are so general and unscientific that I could go read the DSM and have almost every disorder. I wouldn't get worked up about it. It doesn't matter if you find a new name for the problem imo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    Frankly I think diagnoses for mental problems are so general and unscientific that I could go read the DSM and have almost every disorder. I wouldn't get worked up about it. It doesn't matter if you find a new name for the problem imo.

    true, especially personality disorders. Even people who dont have one would have elements of every single one or at least a few of them.

    the thing as well is that there is no test for disorders. Psychiatrists can only go by what they see and deduce from what they have already seen (learned).
    If i had diabetes they would take my blood sugar and show the evidence. If i had schizophrenia all they could do is say i had it and i could say i dont etc.
    Then people who believe in religion are considered normal.

    One other thing i dislike is that they use the married/working man as the standard of health. So the married/working man who speaks well and socializes etc. epitomizes the normal healthy individual and those who dont fall in that bracket are in someway different.

    IMO and i read a lot on psychology it is a bit of a broken science and more of a philosophy. What they need is tests to prove you are a certain label (schizophrenia, bipolar, borderline etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    I've wondered that for a while now but I never brought it up with the doctor for fear of losing the semi-stability I have on current meds.

    If you're meds are working then cool, dont worry about bringing it up either. I'm wondering if there is a support group which would be great. Sucks being alone with this. I dont have a lot of the hysterical characteristics of BPD but I do tick a lot of the boxes :-(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    Really have no idea where my heads at. Anxious to the point of rage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭cookie24


    I must thank guitarzero for this....

    http://www.recovery-inc-ireland.ie/

    gonna go to a meeting on Thurs and see how it goes. Hopefully I wont wuss out, but it seems like it could be ideal for me. Hopefully some other people may find it helpful.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I'm a ball of rage this morning. It's actually hurting my chest a little. And in general the last few days, just been upset easily and ott. I refuse to believe it's down to coming from 7.5 my of cymbalta to 0. It can't be.

    I need to take a course or read a book on people management or effective communication skills because I'm going to lose it some day with the wrong person. How do people not get that I'm an introvert and they need to stop talking to me so much. My housemate obviously doesn't get to talk enough during the day, and so when she sees me needs to get it all out. Even after I said/say I'm going to bed, she talks and talks.

    Anyone have any recommendations?


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