Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Often forgotten is right as I can’t remember when I’ve seen that match last.

It's the feud with the Austin 3:16 beeper/pager and the Intercontinental Title getting yeeted off the bridge.

J. Marston wrote: »

I genuinely don't know who is who out from FTR/Revival. I could google and find out instantly but I would only forget again.

oh its not just me since nxt i can never remember which one is which even though they look nothing alike

Conspiracy theory: Bayley lost the title due to Aaron Solow working with AEW.

Watched the "Behind the Mat" documentary from 1999 yesterday for the first time (Jack the Snake is NOT a nice guy). That ringside footage of Foley's kids during the I Quit Match was one of the most insane things I have ever seen.

My question is though: The Rock was wearing trousers during that match, when did he switch to the more recognisable ring attire, ie the black brahma bull pants? I vaguely remember him in the former, but don't really remember that aforementioned match at all, despite its subsequent infamy.

TimesArrow wrote: »

Have been watching a lot of older stuff on the network and rewatching a lot of older Rock and Austin stuff. Personally, when I think back on these two, it’s mainly “moments” I remember rather than matches ( I know they’ve both have numerous great matches but we’re mainly so over Cos of their mic skills) so I’m wondering, what are your top Austin and/or Rock matches? I don’t mean gaisnt each other necessarily but some of their matches are classics

Their Wrestlemania 17 match was my favorite of the Mania series.

Against other wrestlers though.
The Rock vs Mankind I Quit Match
The Rock vs Triple H Backlash 2000
The Rock vs Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker Vengeance 2002

Stone Cold vs Chris Benoit Smackdown, May 31st 2001
Stone Cold vs Bret Hart Wrestlemania 13
Stone Cold vs Triple H 3 Stages of Hell Match No Way Out 2001

https://twitter.com/FightOwensFight/status/1325121818835869698

Reading up on Chyna there. Sad.
Estranged from her mother and father for many years. Really suffered from issues. Drugs and mental. Obviously did the porn thing. Then I heard she said she would never do porn again.

She was only 46 when she died in 2016. Accidental overdose of anti anxiety drugs, painkillers and alcohol it says. Messed up to think that if you compare 2000 (imo her biggest year in wrestling) and compared to how it all ended in 2016 it's quite a change.

Another sad aspect is that her manager became worried after Chyna didn't usually post to her social media accounts for several days.
Her brain was donated to science for CTE but could not be studied as it had decomposed.

Now there's a sad thing when you read that. Sure Chyna may have been a private person maybe taking days to respond to people. But it does kind of suggest she didn't have anyone. It was her manager only being alerted to no social media posts. Not a friend after no contact, even a significant other. Sad.

One of the most successful wrestlers of all time as she was OVER hugely in the attitude era. Thousands of fans cheering and chanting her name. But died alone.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Reading up on Chyna there. Sad.
Estranged from her mother and father for many years. Really suffered from issues. Drugs and mental. Obviously did the porn thing. Then I heard she said she would never do porn again.

She was only 46 when she died in 2016. Accidental overdose of anti anxiety drugs, painkillers and alcohol it says. Messed up to think that if you compare 2000 (imo her biggest year in wrestling) and compared to how it all ended in 2016 it's quite a change.

Another sad aspect is that her manager became worried after Chyna didn't usually post to her social media accounts for several days.
Her brain was donated to science for CTE but could not be studied as it had decomposed.

Now there's a sad thing when you read that. Sure Chyna may have been a private person maybe taking days to respond to people. But it does kind of suggest she didn't have anyone. It was her manager only being alerted to no social media posts. Not a friend after no contact, even a significant other. Sad.

One of the most successful wrestlers of all time as she was OVER hugely in the attitude era. Thousands of fans cheering and chanting her name. But died alone.

I followed her on Twitter and in the couple of weeks before she died her tweets were very positive and upbeat and she seemed in a much better place than she had been for a while before that. That makes a sad situation even worse imo.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I followed her on Twitter and in the couple of weeks before she died her tweets were very positive and upbeat and she seemed in a much better place than she had been for a while before that. That makes a sad situation even worse imo.

Social media cant be trusted. Everyone tries to paint the best picture of themselves but the reality behind it all is rarely so rosey.

beakerjoe wrote: »

Social media cant be trusted. Everyone tries to paint the best picture of themselves but the reality behind it all is rarely so rosey.

Well clearly it was a better picture than was the reality but I was going on how it looked at the time and there were videos from her in which she seemed more more lucid and there. But yeah it was a very sad ending. Also, her Twitter account is still active which I don’t know how others feel but to me it’s weird when the account of a dead person is still active and carrying on as if nothing happened.

Armando Alejandro Estrada was money. Shame he never really got a decent run as a manager after they inexplicably split himself and Umaga

El Sueño wrote: »

Armando Alejandro Estrada was money. Shame he never really got a decent run as a manager after they inexplicably split himself and Umaga

He was great, but he came in at a time when WWE had done away with managers. If he came in today he'd be in a better position I think.

He did come back briefly to manage Tyson Kidd. That was actually quite a fun gimmick that Tyson Kidd had a new manager each week on WWE Superstars.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The reason from several people including Jim Cornette is that Vince thinks managers are “too southern” and managers in WWE for years simply walked the wrestlers to the ring. So seeing as Vince was born and raised in South Carolina, and seems hell bent on getting as far away from that past as possible, it’s not surprising he doesn’t like managers. But honestly if there was logic to what Vince McMahon thinks we should be worried.

Isn't a slight problem aswell is sometimes that it's the manager who goes over with the fans and not the wrestler so that in the long run it doesn't really help the wrestler.

Will there be a double Hall of Fame next year now I wonder inducting those named this year who didn't get in due to Covid and those who are due to go in in 2021.

Two years ago today we got that great ending to raw with Becky standing on the ring steps with blood on her face due to Nia Jax being the ring general she is. I mean it did work out in the end better for Becky but it’s a pretty cool moment.