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When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    A lot of them probably have some kind of subacute or actual mental illness.

    We all have a responsibility to stop addressing these opinions as though they're genuine political positions - they are not. They are based entirely in delusion, and it wouldn't at all surprise me if many - or most - of these people were living in an ongoing state of delusion, in a medical context.

    I think we should all reflect on what harm we might be causing by perpetuating this 'debate' with people who may very well lack insight into their own mental health. It's all very well to laugh at them, but in doing so, it's we who may be the greatest fools. At the very least, it might be for the best just to ignore these statements.

    I have no time for these beliefs, but given the tenacity with which they are held, I don't believe that those advancing such beliefs are generally in the fullest of their mental health. And I don't think there's anything smart or funny about engaging with them, or making them a laughing stock.

    It's difficult to accept there is an underlying evil controlling the world behind the scenes, so it is much easier to classify someone who questions what we are told through the MSM as having a mental illness. Listen not everyone has an open mind and willing to do their own research. Therefore classify me into the mental illness bracket if it makes you feel better but from a personal perspective, it has made me more self aware of what is going on in the world and the real intentions of bankers/governments/MSM and international organisations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,664 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Most people believe in some lunatic idea. Some of these ideas become mainstream and are generally seen as normal. Anyone who believes in religion, homeopathy or acupuncture are just as far down the rabbit hole as Gemma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate, it takes strength to be gentle and kind....

    But yeah, fcuk these people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    A lot of them probably have some kind of subacute or actual mental illness.

    We all have a responsibility to stop addressing these opinions as though they're genuine political positions - they are not. They are based entirely in delusion, and it wouldn't at all surprise me if many - or most - of these people were living in an ongoing state of delusion, in a medical context.

    I think we should all reflect on what harm we might be causing by perpetuating this 'debate' with people who may very well lack insight into their own mental health. It's all very well to laugh at them, but in doing so, it's we who may be the greatest fools. At the very least, it might be for the best just to ignore these statements.

    I have no time for these beliefs, but given the tenacity with which they are held, I don't believe that those advancing such beliefs are generally in the fullest of their mental health. And I don't think there's anything smart or funny about engaging with them, or making them a laughing stock.

    It's difficult to accept there is an underlying evil controlling the world behind the scenes, so it is much easier to classify someone who questions what we are told through the MSM as having a mental illness. Listen not everyone has an open mind and willing to do their own research. Therefore classify me into the mental illness bracket if it makes you feel better but from a personal perspective, it has made me more self aware of what is going on in the world and the real intentions of bankers/governments/MSM and international organisations.

    Will do


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Grayson wrote: »
    You could be right. But people believe some crazy stuff. I know people who are anti vaccination. They believe weird stuff about crystals and natural healing

    One of them works for the place that sells this
    https://www.ishskoproducts.com/collections/gemstone-blueprint-essences/products/aquamarine-essence
    yeah, this is very difficult ground to navigate - probably even for people who work in the area of healthcare. Nobody can really tell, just by reading someone's online posts, whether they are exploiting their followers for attention (Some of whom almost certainly have delusional beliefs), or whether they themselves have characteristics of paranoia or delusion.

    One thing I think most of us can agree on, though, is that such beliefs shouldn't be approached as if they are legitimate political differences, or in any way legitimised.

    Personally I think it's best to exercise caution when dealing with people who seem convinced that chem trails are real, that fluoridation is a government conspiracy, or whatever - just the same as if I met someone in the park who told me the FBI were bugging his house.

    We all have limits to our patience though, I don't blame anyone for losing their patience with high-profile conspiracy theorists. I've often done that, but I think it's usually better to assume there's a deeper personal problem, and not engage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    Poor woman is getting worse. She think's Wind farms are part of some globalist scam now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Poor woman is getting worse. She think's Wind farms are part of some globalist scam now.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/wind-turbines-are-neither-clean-nor-green-and-they-provide-zero-global-energy/

    Wind energy is a pipe dream. It'll never supply enough to meet demand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Remember the furore a few years ago when gardai gave a hiding to protestors outside Leinster House? Especially as the guards had removed their numbers. Good times.

    Fecking were good times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    listermint wrote: »
    That's quality.

    How does she afford to run a car or buy clothes who gives these folks a job

    She makes money from her youtube channel and she has other sites like patreon for the public to donate to her. They do.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    There is a mini industry in batsh1t crazy right wing conspiracy theories. Get a decent number of followers, mention God, be pro trump, anti immigration and anti abortion. The other crazies start donating and funding you. It's a business model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    20Cent wrote: »
    There is a mini industry in batsh1t crazy right wing conspiracy theories. Get a decent number of followers, mention God, be pro trump, anti immigration and anti abortion. The other crazies start donating and funding you. It's a business model.

    And youtube love it too. Much as she maligned google she couldnt really exist without

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭NinetyForNone


    She makes money from her youtube channel and she has other sites like patreon for the public to donate to her. They do.
    Does she make money from YouTube? What advertisers would support her?




    She was successful in an unfair dismissal case against Independent newspaper. After 18 years working there, say it would have to had been substantial settlement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    She makes money from her youtube channel and she has other sites like patreon for the public to donate to her. They do.


    with 13K subscribers i doubt she is living off it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    One day Gemma heads to the joy and looks for support of Ben Gilroy in his attempts to stop lenders from securing their own property.

    The next day Gemma tweets about how unfair the mortgage rates are in Ireland - the highest in the eurozone.

    We are asked to connect the dots, so follow the trail between the first issue and the second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,013 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    with 13K subscribers i doubt she is living off it.

    Yup. There are 15 year old with gaming channels set up this month with more subscribers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    20Cent wrote: »
    There is a mini industry in batsh1t crazy right wing conspiracy theories. Get a decent number of followers, mention God, be pro trump, anti immigration and anti abortion. The other crazies start donating and funding you. It's a business model.
    We already know that there is an extensive grey market industry out there whose purpose is to manipulate public opinion indirectly by providing funding over various channels.

    These are companies who take funding from large corporates and wealthy businesspeople with specific mandates to downplay or deny climate change, drum up support for war, and push profit-making agendas. And so forth.

    This sounds like something from a Bond novel, and almost like a conspiracy theory itself. But they exist, and we know they do because Cambridge Analytica exists.

    It's well-known that facts aren't very good at influencing people. Confusion, doubt and fear are far more effective. You don't have to be able to prove that the other guy is wrong, you merely have to present the possibility that he is.
    Thus, a lot of their funding goes into spreading these things. And useful idiots like Gemma are one delivery mechanism of it. It doesn't matter what Gemma is actually saying. All that matters is that she plants seeds of doubt.

    So they fund it. Throw ten grand at her through patreon, keep her going for a few months.

    If they have €10m to spend in Europe, they can fund 40 Gemmas in every EU country. Pick the right loudmouths and 40 can sound like 40,000.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    seamus wrote: »
    We already know that there is an extensive grey market industry out there whose purpose is to manipulate public opinion indirectly by providing funding over various channels.

    These are companies who take funding from large corporates and wealthy businesspeople with specific mandates to downplay or deny climate change, drum up support for war, and push profit-making agendas. And so forth.

    This sounds like something from a Bond novel, and almost like a conspiracy theory itself. But they exist, and we know they do because Cambridge Analytica exists.

    It's well-known that facts aren't very good at influencing people. Confusion, doubt and fear are far more effective. You don't have to be able to prove that the other guy is wrong, you merely have to present the possibility that he is.
    Thus, a lot of their funding goes into spreading these things. And useful idiots like Gemma are one delivery mechanism of it. It doesn't matter what Gemma is actually saying. All that matters is that she plants seeds of doubt.

    So they fund it. Throw ten grand at her through patreon, keep her going for a few months.

    If they have €10m to spend in Europe, they can fund 40 Gemmas in every EU country. Pick the right loudmouths and 40 can sound like 40,000.


    How distinct from that is the PR industry that we've had for over 100 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    How distinct from that is the PR industry that we've had for over 100 years?
    10,000 years even.

    Although it came across that way, I wasn't intending to claim that this was a new phenomenon.

    Even sermons from the altar could be considered an earlier form of shadowy propaganda - agendas dictated from the Vatican, to be repeated to a mass of followers in the form of honest priestly musings.

    My point really is that the idea that Gemma O'D (and her ilk) are lone crusaders operating on the fringes of society is a bit flawed. The fact that she keeps cropping up anywhere, and gets an airing anywhere, is by design.

    Same reason the Iona institute, despite being a fringe group of five or six zealots with no real qualifications to speak on most issues, get any airtime.

    There is probably something unique about the current state of the propaganda industry in terms of the global scale of it, and its unprecedented access to individuals through phones. But ultimately the tricks and tactics are the same.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    20Cent wrote: »
    There is a mini industry in batsh1t crazy right wing conspiracy theories. Get a decent number of followers, mention God, be pro trump, anti immigration and anti abortion. The other crazies start donating and funding you. It's a business model.

    It's batsh1t crazy because you're living in a bubble and you're none the wiser. I was like you about 2 years ago. Actually the bible is very good highlighting the evil at work in this world and a lot of the predictions made have been coming through. That's an area I would like to explore next, see what the illuminati are currently doing and what the bible says.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    The fact that she keeps cropping up anywhere, and gets an airing anywhere, is by design.

    Same reason the Iona institute, despite being a fringe group of five or six zealots with no real qualifications to speak on most issues, get any airtime.
    O'Doherty has been shunned by her former media colleagues - rightly so - since she started her latest projects.

    It's all quite refreshing, in contrast to what we're seeing from the UK and the US, that broadcasters (including most print publications) are choosing to ignore her, rather than benefit in ad revenue from her bizarre rants.

    She's been forced onto the fringes of Irish political commentary via YouTube, and has a pathetically low viewership in context of the voting population; she's no great threat. This all restores, somewhat, my confidence in Irish media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    20Cent wrote: »
    There is a mini industry in batsh1t crazy right wing conspiracy theories. Get a decent number of followers, mention God, be pro trump, anti immigration and anti abortion. The other crazies start donating and funding you. It's a business model.

    It's batsh1t crazy because you're living in a bubble and you're none the wiser. I was like you about 2 years ago. Actually the bible is very good highlighting the evil at work in this world and a lot of the predictions made have been coming through. That's an area I would like to explore next, see what the illuminati are currently doing and what the bible says.

    Where did your breakthrough come from? YouTube no doubt


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Where did your breakthrough come from? YouTube no doubt

    No it was actually through researching gold and silver articles, wanted to find an asset that does well in a reset. Then realised they're suppressing the price through paper contracts, and from there began to learn more about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭woejus


    The Nal wrote: »
    Yup. There are 15 year old with gaming channels set up this month with more subscribers.

    https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCtDhSWHrzczksNAZ-9dFGIw

    €6 - €92 monthly income from that youtube channel 🤣


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    During the week she had a lady on from Roosky and that Grand Torino fella. The lady and her niece had confronted the anti racism protesters earlier in the week and I thought they were really good at sticking it to some gimp who was shouting at them.
    During the 3way interview Gemma was talking about the fires that were started in the hotel. Gemma proposed that the fires were a False Flag operation.
    Recently she's put up an obviously fake video of a wind turbine exploding and crashing to the ground.

    Reality and fantasy are fairly muddled in her head.


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    woejus wrote: »
    https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCtDhSWHrzczksNAZ-9dFGIw

    €6 - €92 monthly income from that youtube channel 🤣
    Sad to see a person who clearly is a talented journalist reduced to this. It's like watching someone being fired in real-time, or someone you admire make a monumental cock-up -- not fun.

    It must be devastating for her and her family. I just can't believe that she genuinely believes this stuff, and your post makes it clear that she's not doing it for the money. There's a lot of paranoia going on, and I don't want to speculate on how far it goes, but it isn't healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭BeerFarts


    It's batsh1t crazy because you're living in a bubble and you're none the wiser. I was like you about 2 years ago. Actually the bible is very good highlighting the evil at work in this world and a lot of the predictions made have been coming through. That's an area I would like to explore next, see what the illuminati are currently doing and what the bible says.

    Is it possible to break out of one batsh1t bubble into a double bubble of batsh1t trouble?

    Yes! yes it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    No it was actually through researching gold and silver articles, wanted to find an asset that does well in a reset. Then realised they're suppressing the price through paper contracts, and from there began to learn more about them.

    A sincere question, are you happy with your lot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    BeerFarts wrote: »
    Is it possible to break out of one batsh1t bubble into a double bubble of batsh1t trouble?

    Yes! yes it is!

    It’s opening your mind to the point where your brain falls out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Birneybau wrote: »
    A sincere question, are you happy with your lot?

    Honestly yes. I have given up watching tv except for sport, more aware of how the world works, I eat healthier, eliminated sugar and precooked meals, made the connection why anxiety and depression levels are skyrocketing even though we have everything and realised there is actually a lot of good and love in the world as well. So fcuk them. What they worship and what they have planned is pure evil but there's nothing I can do about it. From my side I will look at the bigger picture, try be a better person and maintain healthy relationships with people I encounter during my time in this world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    Honestly yes. I have given up watching tv except for sport, more aware of how the world works, I eat healthier, eliminated sugar and precooked meals, made the connection why anxiety and depression levels are skyrocketing even though we have everything and realised there is actually a lot of good and love in the world as well. So fcuk them. What they worship and what they have planned is pure evil but there's nothing I can do about it. From my side I will look at the bigger picture, try be a better person and maintain healthy relationships with people I encounter during my time in this world.

    Who's "they"? What do "they" worship? What have "they" planned?

    You don't need to be enlightened to know that eating healthier, cutting out sugar and precooked meals will make you feel better? It's just a pain in the hole to do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Who's "they"? What do "they" worship? What have "they" planned?

    You don't need to be enlightened to know that eating healthier, cutting out sugar and precooked meals will make you feel better? It's just a pain in the hole to do.

    They is illuminati, according to Ronald Bernard they number about 12,000 but they have infiltrated many organisations around the world. They worship Lucifer and at some of their secret rituals they offer human sacrifices. They do this because the demon creatures that help them feed off negative energy like fear.

    Their main control over society is through the financial system, MSM, film and music industry. US federal reserve is owned by 12 families with the Rothschilds being the major owner. The dollar is also the main global reserve currency and is backed by oil allowing as many dollars to be sent out to other countries getting goods and services in return. The US is their main enforcer like Britain before them, bringing their banking system into every country. By charging interest on debt, which is against the bible and quran, they extract wealth from the bottom up the banking system through the world bank and IMF to the illuminati at the top.

    Also if look at the international news in the MSM anywhere around the world where they have a foothold, it's almost identical. Same language same viewpoint same propaganda. At moment it's anti Russia, gender identity, globalism, free movement economic migrants, racism etc, all used to set people against each other and deflect from what they're doing behind the scenes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Also if look at the international news in the MSM anywhere around the world where they have a foothold, it's almost identical. Same language same viewpoint same propaganda. At moment it's anti Russia, gender identity, globalism, free movement economic migrants, racism etc, all used to set people against each other and deflect from what they're doing behind the scenes.


    ....maybe the legalisation of drugs is a bad idea, I may have to rethink this one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    They is illuminati, according to Ronald Bernard they number about 12,000 but they have infiltrated many organisations around the world. They worship Lucifer and at some of their secret rituals they offer human sacrifices. They do this because the demon creatures that help them feed off negative energy like fear.

    Their main control over society is through the financial system, MSM, film and music industry. US federal reserve is owned by 12 families with the Rothschilds being the major owner. The dollar is also the main global reserve currency and is backed by oil allowing as many dollars to be sent out to other countries getting goods and services in return. The US is their main enforcer like Britain before them, bringing their banking system into every country. By charging interest on debt, which is against the bible and quran, they extract wealth from the bottom up the banking system through the world bank and IMF to the illuminati at the top.

    Also if look at the international news in the MSM anywhere around the world where they have a foothold, it's almost identical. Same language same viewpoint same propaganda. At moment it's anti Russia, gender identity, globalism, free movement economic migrants, racism etc, all used to set people against each other and deflect from what they're doing behind the scenes.

    Like I said there is a market for batsh1t crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    They worship Lucifer and at some of their secret rituals they offer human sacrifices. They do this because the demon creatures that help them feed off negative energy like fear.


    Right....................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭francois


    They is illuminati, according to Ronald Bernard they number about 12,000 but they have infiltrated many organisations around the world. They worship Lucifer and at some of their secret rituals they offer human sacrifices. They do this because the demon creatures that help them feed off negative energy like fear.

    Their main control over society is through the financial system, MSM, film and music industry. US federal reserve is owned by 12 families with the Rothschilds being the major owner. The dollar is also the main global reserve currency and is backed by oil allowing as many dollars to be sent out to other countries getting goods and services in return. The US is their main enforcer like Britain before them, bringing their banking system into every country. By charging interest on debt, which is against the bible and quran, they extract wealth from the bottom up the banking system through the world bank and IMF to the illuminati at the top.

    Also if look at the international news in the MSM anywhere around the world where they have a foothold, it's almost identical. Same language same viewpoint same propaganda. At moment it's anti Russia, gender identity, globalism, free movement economic migrants, racism etc, all used to set people against each other and deflect from what they're doing behind the scenes.

    Not sure if serious or....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,013 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    The natural reaction is to laugh at this sort of stuff but a lot of these people are actually mentally ill. I don't think Gemma is completely sane. A screw has come loose somewhere or shes popped up on the spectrum late in life. In that respect, its sad.

    We've really only started diagnosing these issues properly in the last few years but anyone prone to believing theories such as "they" are poisoning us with chemtrails and fluoride or that Sandy Hook was a hoax etc should be treated as a sick person who needs help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    Is Gulible an illness?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,013 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Is Gulible an illness?

    It is at those levels yeah


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    They is illuminati, according to Ronald Bernard they number about 12,000 but they have infiltrated many organisations around the world. They worship Lucifer and at some of their secret rituals they offer human sacrifices. They do this because the demon creatures that help them feed off negative energy like fear.

    Their main control over society is through the financial system, MSM, film and music industry. US federal reserve is owned by 12 families with the Rothschilds being the major owner. The dollar is also the main global reserve currency and is backed by oil allowing as many dollars to be sent out to other countries getting goods and services in return. The US is their main enforcer like Britain before them, bringing their banking system into every country. By charging interest on debt, which is against the bible and quran, they extract wealth from the bottom up the banking system through the world bank and IMF to the illuminati at the top.

    Also if look at the international news in the MSM anywhere around the world where they have a foothold, it's almost identical. Same language same viewpoint same propaganda. At moment it's anti Russia, gender identity, globalism, free movement economic migrants, racism etc, all used to set people against each other and deflect from what they're doing behind the scenes.
    You said you try to be a better person previously. Now you seem to be justifying every form of hate speech. Right so...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    batgoat wrote: »
    You said you try to be a better person previously. Now you seem to be justifying every form of hate speech. Right so...

    So if you don't agree with something then label it as hate speech or classify the person as mentally unwell. Okay this I already knew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,013 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    So if you don't agree with something then label it as hate speech or classify the person as mentally unwell. Okay this I already knew.

    People who believe that the world is controlled by lizards are mentally unwell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    So if you don't agree with something then label it as hate speech or classify the person as mentally unwell. Okay this I already knew.

    You included an anti semetic rant that was literally a foundation to the nazi party. Then said the current evil agenda is anti racism. I'm guessing gay rights is one of their other evil agendas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    They is illuminati, according to Ronald Bernard they number about 12,000 but they have infiltrated many organisations around the world. They worship Lucifer and at some of their secret rituals they offer human sacrifices. They do this because the demon creatures that help them feed off negative energy like fear.

    Their main control over society is through the financial system, MSM, film and music industry. US federal reserve is owned by 12 families with the Rothschilds being the major owner. The dollar is also the main global reserve currency and is backed by oil allowing as many dollars to be sent out to other countries getting goods and services in return. The US is their main enforcer like Britain before them, bringing their banking system into every country. By charging interest on debt, which is against the bible and quran, they extract wealth from the bottom up the banking system through the world bank and IMF to the illuminati at the top.

    Also if look at the international news in the MSM anywhere around the world where they have a foothold, it's almost identical. Same language same viewpoint same propaganda. At moment it's anti Russia, gender identity, globalism, free movement economic migrants, racism etc, all used to set people against each other and deflect from what they're doing behind the scenes.

    Only thing missing from this are the Lizard People/Annunaki/Archons and we are right down the rabbit hole of bat**** crazy theory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    The Nal wrote: »
    People who believe that the world is controlled by lizards are mentally unwell.

    I never mentioned the word lizard. I said they worship lucifer. There is a lot more to this world than learning pointless information in school to spill it out in an exam that's quickly forgotten or from sitting down on a sofa being brainwashed by the MSM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I never mentioned the word lizard. I said they worship lucifer. There is a lot more to this world than learning pointless information in school to spill it out in an exam that's quickly forgotten or from sitting down on a sofa being brainwashed by the MSM.

    'information' on the internets also needs to be consumed under caution!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,013 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I never mentioned the word lizard. I said they worship lucifer. There is a lot more to this world than learning pointless information in school to spill it out in an exam that's quickly forgotten or from sitting down on a sofa being brainwashed by the MSM.

    You'd have to believe Lucifer exists though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I never mentioned the word lizard. I said they worship lucifer. There is a lot more to this world than learning pointless information in school to spill it out in an exam that's quickly forgotten or from sitting down on a sofa being brainwashed by the MSM.

    Can you list the people involved and link.to the evidence for this (especially your claims about human sanctification) please.

    FYI: A random youtube video will not be deemed evidence, I'm looking for solid evidence for your claims please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Is Gulible an illness?

    I just tried to check, its doesn't appear in the dictionary I have.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    They is illuminati, according to Ronald Bernard they number about 12,000 but they have infiltrated many organisations around the world. They worship Lucifer and at some of their secret rituals they offer human sacrifices. They do this because the demon creatures that help them feed off negative energy like fear.

    Their main control over society is through the financial system, MSM, film and music industry. US federal reserve is owned by 12 families with the Rothschilds being the major owner. The dollar is also the main global reserve currency and is backed by oil allowing as many dollars to be sent out to other countries getting goods and services in return. The US is their main enforcer like Britain before them, bringing their banking system into every country. By charging interest on debt, which is against the bible and quran, they extract wealth from the bottom up the banking system through the world bank and IMF to the illuminati at the top.

    Also if look at the international news in the MSM anywhere around the world where they have a foothold, it's almost identical. Same language same viewpoint same propaganda. At moment it's anti Russia, gender identity, globalism, free movement economic migrants, racism etc, all used to set people against each other and deflect from what they're doing behind the scenes.

    Has to be a parody at this point
    Well played.


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