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Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

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    #8522
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    siblers wrote: »
    But everyone knows about this. It was widely reported at the time. Why bring it up again? What purpose does it serve when we all know about his past?

    I just thought it was jarring when Andy Lee referred to Fury as a gentleman a few times in the interview.


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    #8523
    monstermag
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭monstermag


    siblers wrote: »
    But everyone knows about this. It was widely reported at the time. Why bring it up again? What purpose does it serve when we all know about his past?

    So l guess the lads won't bring up Justin Gatlin's past when the Olympics rolls around this summer?


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    #8524
    Higgins5473
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I just thought it was jarring when Andy Lee referred to Fury as a gentleman a few times in the interview.

    Lee also said at the same time that his past comments may have been due to his mental health issues. The lad was totally unhinged at the time, off his rocker. I've no doubt he does have extreme racial & homophobic views but coming out with it so publicly I'd agree with that sentiment. Doesn't make it right and I don't really get the adulation or love in for him either but he was or potentially is still a complete mad man so that kind of talk is just lunacy and I wouldn't pay much attention to it.


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    #8525
    siblers
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    Anyone know the lad who was on Saturday with John Duggan and Dan McDonnel? He's been on a few times on the Saturday show. He's awful, come across like the local pub expert, no idea why he's on the show


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    #8526
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    siblers wrote: »
    Anyone know the lad who was on Saturday with John Duggan and Dan McDonnel? He's been on a few times on the Saturday show. He's awful, come across like the local pub expert, no idea why he's on the show

    Shane Keegan was it?


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    #8527
    redbuck
    Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    siblers wrote: »
    Anyone know the lad who was on Saturday with John Duggan and Dan McDonnel? He's been on a few times on the Saturday show. He's awful, come across like the local pub expert, no idea why he's on the show

    Johnny Ward?


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    #8528
    siblers
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    Shane Keegan is him alright. Would never have guessed he managed at a reasonabley high level in Irish football


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    #8529
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    Excellent paper review yesterday hosted by Joe with Johnny Ward and Ciarán Ó Raghallaigh as guests. People may give out about Joe but everything runs so smoothly when he's in the chair.

    As for the Saturday panel, I'm not a fan of the format and find John Duggan to be utterly painful.


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    #8530
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Excellent paper review yesterday hosted by Joe with Johnny Ward and Ciarán Ó Raghallaigh as guests. People may give out about Joe but everything runs so smoothly when he's in the chair.

    As for the Saturday panel, I'm not a fan of the format and find John Duggan to be utterly painful.

    Agree. Best Sunday Paper Review in a long time.


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    #8531
    generalgerry
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    Not usually a fan of Johnny Ward, but I agree that yesterday's paper review was very entertaining. Now there were some particularly interesting stories, like the FAI story, which certainly did help. But I certainly enjoyed it as I was cleaning out the shed. Maybe leaving it til later in the show is a good idea.


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    #8532
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Hard to make out Johny Ward. I think he's a bit of a headbanger, but in a nice sort of way. He can be engaging, charming, off the cuff, but talks some amount of pure horse manure he could say absolutely anything. I think Dan McDonnel and the lads get great laugh out of him. His prediction that Rovers had won the league last year after about 10 games was priceless and he'll never live that down. He's turning up on more media all tge time: Off The Ball, The 42, League of Ireland podcast. There is no end to this mans sporting knowledge.


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    #8533
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    Hard to make out Johny Ward. I think he's a bit of a headbanger, but in a nice sort of way. He can be engaging, charming, off the cuff, but talks some amount of pure horse manure he could say absolutely anything. I think Dan McDonnel and the lads get great laugh out of him. His prediction that Rovers had won the league last year after about 10 games was priceless and he'll never live that down. He's turning up on more media all tge time: Off The Ball, The 42, League of Ireland podcast. There is no end to this mans sporting knowledge.

    I know Johnny well and he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for but it is true that he is a real maverick and enjoys life on his own terms. He's a great man to have a pint with and as he is so charismatic and people are drawn to him. Himself and Dan are very good friends going back years, and while he loves taking the piss out of Johnny, it's all good fun.


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    #8534
    RugbyLover123
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    OTB have tweeted about that Kerry training video 6 times in the past 24 hours. I actually went back to count because any time I’ve gone onto Twitter they’ve had a tweet up about it.

    They really are becoming like a tabloid sports show.


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    #8535
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    RugbyLover123 wrote: »
    OTB have tweeted about that Kerry training video 6 times in the past 24 hours. I actually went back to count because any time I’ve gone onto Twitter they’ve had a tweet up about it.

    They really are becoming like a tabloid sports show.

    What's so tabloid about discussing the Kerry coach being asked to leave his job? Seems a pretty even handed assessment by Eoin Sheehan.

    The Sunday Papers is one of my favourite slots of the week, but it was brutal again yesterday. Sarah O'Donovan seems to be a regular now but she's very poor and doesn't ever offer any real insight on any story. She also just lets the other person do all the talking which was not good yesterday as David Sneyd needs to be reined in due to rambling off topic. It also works better when Joe Molloy is host.

    It's a decent slot but if they are just going to do a half-arsed job at it they'd be better off letting it die a death. I think a lot of the slots are starting to suffer now as they are spreading themselves so thin.


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    #8536
    Dots1982
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    What's so tabloid about discussing the Kerry coach being asked to leave his job? Seems a pretty even handed assessment by Eoin Sheehan.

    The Sunday Papers is one of my favourite slots of the week, but it was brutal again yesterday. Sarah O'Donovan seems to be a regular now but she's very poor and doesn't ever offer any real insight on any story. She also just lets the other person do all the talking which was not good yesterday as David Sneyd needs to be reined in due to rambling off topic. It also works better when Joe Molloy is host.

    It's a decent slot but if they are just going to do a half-arsed job at it they'd be better off letting it die a death. I think a lot of the slots are starting to suffer now as they are spreading themselves so thin.

    Thought Sarah o Donovan was ok. Interesting and insightful on cork rugby schools getting more into GAA. Not something I was aware of. She could of laughed less at Snyed’s “MadLad” persona.

    Beats the hell out of Cliona Foley’s tediousness or Declan Lynch’s misinformed exaggerations.


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    #8537
    BPKS
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    What's so tabloid about discussing the Kerry coach being asked to leave his job? Seems a pretty even handed assessment by Eoin Sheehan.

    The Sunday Papers is one of my favourite slots of the week, but it was brutal again yesterday. Sarah O'Donovan seems to be a regular now but she's very poor and doesn't ever offer any real insight on any story. She also just lets the other person do all the talking which was not good yesterday as David Sneyd needs to be reined in due to rambling off topic. It also works better when Joe Molloy is host.

    It's a decent slot but if they are just going to do a half-arsed job at it they'd be better off letting it die a death. I think a lot of the slots are starting to suffer now as they are spreading themselves so thin.

    I presume the poster was talking about the video of the Kilcummin lads wrestling in the mud, not about Donie Buckley getting the chop


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    #8538
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    BPKS wrote: »
    I presume the poster was talking about the video of the Kilcummin lads wrestling in the mud, not about Donie Buckley getting the chop

    Indeed. That went right over my head.


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    #8539
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    RugbyLover123 wrote: »
    OTB have tweeted about that Kerry training video 6 times in the past 24 hours. I actually went back to count because any time I’ve gone onto Twitter they’ve had a tweet up about it.

    They really are becoming like a tabloid sports show.

    I wonder if some of these tweets are being generated automatically? It was the same today with tweets on the Joe Marler incident.

    Doesn't happen with all the tweets mind but some seem to get this treatment.


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    #8540
    generalgerry
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    Dots1982 wrote: »
    Thought Sarah o Donovan was ok. Interesting and insightful on cork rugby schools getting more into GAA.

    It is odd that I should switch off this particular show, as I usually find it enjoyable. But I switched them off after their hit piece on Neil Francis. Fair enough to criticize him for his content, but their joint effort to attack him personally was way over the top. It was clear that the three people in studio did not like him and they took their opportunity to have a go.


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    #8541
    Jayesdiem
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    It is odd that I should switch off this particular show, as I usually find it enjoyable. But I switched them off after their hit piece on Neil Francis. Fair enough to criticize him for his content, but their joint effort to attack him personally was way over the top. It was clear that the three people in studio did not like him and they took their opportunity to have a go.

    There was an underlying bigotry in that. It works “up the way” too. I thought last week’s review, lead by Joe, was fantastic. This week was the absolute stinking sh1ts (I switched off too).


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    #8542
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    It is odd that I should switch off this particular show, as I usually find it enjoyable. But I switched them off after their hit piece on Neil Francis. Fair enough to criticize him for his content, but their joint effort to attack him personally was way over the top. It was clear that the three people in studio did not like him and they took their opportunity to have a go.

    I didn't think there was anything personal in it, they just criticised the article, which was daft. To be fair, you can't have it every way - a few weeks ago people were on here saying journalists never criticise their colleagues. No harm in Francis being called out in this case.


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    #8543
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    generalgerry wrote: »
    It is odd that I should switch off this particular show, as I usually find it enjoyable. But I switched them off after their hit piece on Neil Francis. Fair enough to criticize him for his content, but their joint effort to attack him personally was way over the top. It was clear that the three people in studio did not like him and they took their opportunity to have a go.

    Yes. I'm not a fan of rugby or Francis but was surprised at the vitriol the three of them had for his piece. Never heard such criticism of a journalist like that before on the show. Certainly no love lost there.


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    #8544
    Dots1982
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I didn't think there was anything personal in it, they just criticised the article, which was daft. To be fair, you can't have it every way - a few weeks ago people were on here saying journalists never criticise their colleagues. No harm in Francis being called out in this case.

    It was personal and focused very little on the content, analysis or merit of the article.


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    #8545
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Who was the bloke on the show? Constantly cracking bad jokes that saw the woman giggling away constantly. Saying 'wind bags' a lot. Thought it was a terrible show myself and had to eventually give up and knock it off.


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    #8546
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    Who was the bloke on the show? Constantly cracking bad jokes that saw the woman giggling away constantly. Saying 'wind bags' a lot. Thought it was a terrible show myself and had to eventually give up and knock it off.

    David Sneyd, freelance football journalist. He was a bit too casual with some of his language alright.

    Needed a stronger host to rein him in. Neil Treacy is a bit green and the show got away from him.


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    Dots1982 wrote: »
    It was personal and focused very little on the content, analysis or merit of the article.

    I'll have to listen back, as I remember thinking it was unusual to hear criticism of a fellow journalist but wasn't that taken aback by it. Francis is in a fairly privileged position and is not shy about dishing it out, so if anyone can take a bit of flak it's him.


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    #8548
    Dots1982
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    By main issue with the paper review was Snyed thinking Souness had a good point about Grealish taking too many touches with the ball.

    Of course Grealish takes touches with the ball, he’s brilliant and the rest of the villa squad are ****e.


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    #8549
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Dots1982 wrote: »
    By main issue with the paper review was Snyed thinking Souness had a good point about Grealish taking too many touches with the ball.

    Of course Grealish takes touches with the ball, he’s brilliant and the rest of the villa squad are ****e.

    He's not brilliant imo. Nowhere near it.


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    #8550
    Dots1982
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    He's not brilliant imo. Nowhere near it.

    What would you say is the weakest in his game technically?


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    #8551
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Dots1982 wrote: »
    What would you say is the weakest in his game technically?

    Dont buy into the hype about him. Doesn't be involved in the play as much as a top midfielder should. Can go missing for large periods and usually does. A few fancy dribbles doesn't mask over his ineffectual overall play.


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