All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

Fighting Tao · 10-06-2021 10:43pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

Get a life would ya. That’s just needless nit picking. Christ I can’t imagine what you were like as a child, when mammy didn’t buy you the sweets “she promised she would buy you.”

Less of the personal insults please.

You are fabricating narratives that you can’t even stick to. Expect to be picked up on untruths on an Internet forum. That’s what happens. If you make a point then expect it to be challenged, and prepare to back it up, not try to change it a bit when your point has been disproved.

Himnydownunder · 10-06-2021 10:56pm

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Less of the personal insults please.

You are fabricating narratives that you can’t even stick to. Expect to be picked up on untruths on an Internet forum. That’s what happens. If you make a point then expect it to be challenged, and prepare to back it up, not try to change it a bit when your point has been disproved.

“Ground to a halt” is a turn of phrase you twat. You are nit-picking and you know it. I don’t mind my theories being questioned, but I do mind when somebody is trolling me in such a pathetic way.

astrofool · 10-06-2021 11:03pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

“Ground to a halt” is a turn of phrase you twat. You are nit-picking and you know it. I don’t mind my theories being questioned, but I do mind when somebody is trolling me in such a pathetic way.

All you need to say is "Thanks, I didn't mean ground to a halt, I meant reduced" and move on, most people read "halt" as "stopped", no need to be over dramatic about it.

People are looking for a coherent narrative from you that there may be some evidence for, if there are holes in that narrative, expect to be picked up on it.

Himnydownunder · 10-06-2021 11:05pm

astrofool wrote: »

All you need to say is "Thanks, I didn't mean ground to a halt, I meant reduced" and move on, most people read "halt" as "stopped", no need to be over dramatic about it.

People are looking for a coherent narrative from you that there may be some evidence for, if there are holes in that narrative, expect to be picked up on it.

It’s just annoying when people are so petty. Obviously I don’t think that cars were completely banned on the road. I take your point though.

runawaybishop · 10-06-2021 11:29pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

“Ground to a halt” is a turn of phrase you twat. You are nit-picking and you know it. I don’t mind my theories being questioned, but I do mind when somebody is trolling me in such a pathetic way.

There was a 7% reduction globally in carbon emissions. That's nowhere close to 'ground to a halt'.

We could lock everyone up forever but that wouldn't change a thing, people driving to work affect emissions **** all.

Himnydownunder · 10-06-2021 11:31pm

runawaybishop wrote: »

There was a 7% reduction globally in carbon emissions. That's nowhere close to 'ground to a halt'.

We could lock everyone up forever but that wouldn't change a thing, people driving to work affect emissions **** all.

Aren’t airplanes meant to be damaging to the environment though, according to Greta Thunberg?

runawaybishop · 10-06-2021 11:31pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

Aren’t airplanes meant to be damaging to the environment though, according to Greta Thunberg?

They aren't a paragon of virtue, but they are small potatoes.

Dohnjoe · 10-06-2021 11:42pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

I’m just throwing it out there as one possibility.

Yeah it's a random prediction with no logic or reasoning behind it. Mystic Meg stuff.

robinph · 11-06-2021 4:46am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

As if car manufacturers, airlines and businesses would be made aware of it. As if any of the general public would be made aware of it. Do you think governments are incapable of lying? Remember the “weapons of mass destruction?”

You claimed that the pandemic is being faked in order to fulfil a climate change agenda and shut down all travel. Do you not think that all the businesses involved in global travel might notice if they are being lied to about a global pandemic and say something about it, or would they need to be brought in on the plan in order to keep the lie going?

Himnydownunder · 11-06-2021 8:33am

robinph wrote: »

You claimed that the pandemic is being faked in order to fulfil a climate change agenda and shut down all travel. Do you not think that all the businesses involved in global travel might notice if they are being lied to about a global pandemic and say something about it, or would they need to be brought in on the plan in order to keep the lie going?

The virus is real (though it could have been made in a lab). It is the reaction to the virus which has been extreme. Was there a need for almost one year of repeated lockdowns? Ireland made a complete balls of it as an island. New Zealand and Australia fared far better as islands. Although you will be sold another lie in the Emerald Isle, the “we are doing great lads.”

EyesClosed · 11-06-2021 8:48am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

The virus is real (though it could have been made in a lab). It is the reaction to the virus which has been extreme. Was there a need for almost one year of repeated lockdowns? Ireland made a complete balls of it as an island. New Zealand and Australia fared far better as islands. Although you will be sold another lie in the Emerald Isle, the “we are doing great lads.”

So where Australia and New Zealand not part of this evil plan to control the world then? How come they where allowed to remain open when everywhere else was closed? Your story has more holes than swish cheese.

King Mob · 11-06-2021 8:56am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

The virus is real (though it could have been made in a lab). It is the reaction to the virus which has been extreme. Was there a need for almost one year of repeated lockdowns? Ireland made a complete balls of it as an island. New Zealand and Australia fared far better as islands. Although you will be sold another lie in the Emerald Isle, the “we are doing great lads.”

Ok. So tell us what was the real reasons for the lockdown?

Himnydownunder · 11-06-2021 9:13am

EyesClosed wrote: »

So where Australia and New Zealand not part of this evil plan to control the world then? How come they where allowed to remain open when everywhere else was closed? Your story has more holes than swish cheese.

If you want to believe that the global lockdowns were normal, fair play to you. If you believe the vaccine will be the answer to everything, kudos to you. If you think the measures taken over the last 12 months won’t bankrupt most small to medium sized businesses, I take my tinfoil hat off to you. Australia and New Zealand took action themselves, made their own decisions and the right ones. Ireland should have shut every airport and port last March. If we had had a severe lockdown starting last March, Irish people could have had a great time within their own country, once all airports and ports remained closed.

robinph · 11-06-2021 9:15am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

If you want to believe that the global lockdowns were normal, fair play to you. If you believe the vaccine will be the answer to everything, kudos to you. If you think the measures taken over the last 12 months won’t bankrupt most small to medium sized businesses, I take my tinfoil hat off to you. Australia and New Zealand took action themselves, made their own decisions and the right ones. Ireland should have shut every airport and port last March. If we had had a severe lockdown starting last March, Irish people could have had a great time within their own country, once all airports and ports remained closed.

So not a conspiracy then, just different countries dealing with a pandemic in different ways.

Himnydownunder · 11-06-2021 9:20am

robinph wrote: »

So not a conspiracy then, just different countries dealing with a pandemic in different ways.

I’m pretty sure countries will blindly shut down again in the Autumn, almost in unison. I never said that all the global leaders agreed to a conspiracy at a private meeting. But there is a pandemic agenda being pushed globally.

Himnydownunder · 11-06-2021 9:24am

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yeah it's a random prediction with no logic or reasoning behind it. Mystic Meg stuff.

Well all we heard about was climate change for a few years before the pandemic. Greta Thunberg et al are very quiet now, with airlines having done way less business over the last twelve months and cars sitting idle for a lot of the time in driveways until recently.

robinph · 11-06-2021 9:28am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

I’m pretty sure countries will blindly shut down again in the Autumn, almost in unison. I never said that all the global leaders agreed to a conspiracy at a private meeting. But there is a pandemic agenda being pushed globally.

So you've renamed the term "conspiracy theory" to be "pandemic agenda"?

So who is behind this pandemic agenda / conspiracy and who is pushing this globally?

Fighting Tao · 11-06-2021 9:30am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

Well all we heard about was climate change for a few years before the pandemic. Greta Thunberg et al are very quiet now, with airlines having done way less business over the last twelve months and cars sitting idle for a lot of the time in driveways until recently.

So Greta, a teenager is pulling the strings?

There are a huge number of people that seem to be quiet, because most of the news is reporting the pandemic. The way news outlets work is that they priorities what they think are the bigger stories, that will get more views/purchases. Therefore, other things get pushed down the pecking order.

King Mob · 11-06-2021 9:37am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

Well all we heard about was climate change for a few years before the pandemic. Greta Thunberg et al are very quiet now, with airlines having done way less business over the last twelve months and cars sitting idle for a lot of the time in driveways until recently.

Ok. So you're contending the "agenda" is that they are faking/over hyping the pandemic to force lockdowns that aren't actually needed to cause a 7% reduction in emissions?

Is Greta herself part of this agenda? Is she making decisions?
Who else is part of the agenda and how did they get all countries involved?

If you don't know and can't actually answer any of the questions put to you, you can just say so. There's no shame in not actually knowing.

runawaybishop · 11-06-2021 10:22am

Himnydownunder wrote: »

If you want to believe that the global lockdowns were normal, fair play to you. If you believe the vaccine will be the answer to everything, kudos to you. If you think the measures taken over the last 12 months won’t bankrupt most small to medium sized businesses, I take my tinfoil hat off to you. Australia and New Zealand took action themselves, made their own decisions and the right ones. Ireland should have shut every airport and port last March. If we had had a severe lockdown starting last March, Irish people could have had a great time within their own country, once all airports and ports remained closed.

What has this got to do with the thread? There are plenty of other threads to discuss our response to covid. This just reads like you don't have anything of substance to add to the discussion, so are throwing out random stuff in the hopes some will stick.

Himnydownunder · 11-06-2021 12:38pm

I’m not going to bother giving any more alternative views here. It seems on Boards.ie unless you say “Ireland did a good job with the pandemic,” “Stephen Donnelly is a legend,” “we are doing really well with our vaccine roll out” and/ or “glad the pandemic is over now and the good times are ahead,” you will be shouted down and trolled to death. People really don’t want to even listen to any view other than the one being touted by the mainstream media.

Fighting Tao · 11-06-2021 1:10pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

I’m not going to bother giving any more alternative views here. It seems on Boards.ie unless you say “Ireland did a good job with the pandemic,” “Stephen Donnelly is a legend,” “we are doing really well with our vaccine roll out” and/ or “glad the pandemic is over now and the good times are ahead,” you will be shouted down and trolled to death. People really don’t want to even listen to any view other than the one being touted by the mainstream media.

But this thread isn’t about any of that stuff. You are the person introducing it. All people here are trying to find out is what will be permanent, and the evidence for it.

King Mob · 11-06-2021 1:23pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

I’m not going to bother giving any more alternative views here.
...
People really don’t really want to even listen to any view other than the one being touted by the mainstream media.

But we've been asking you to explain your view. We've asked you repeatedly.
Now not only have not explained your view, you're now declaring that you're never going to tell us because we keep asking you.

That doesn't make a ton of sense.

To be honest, it sounds an awful lot like you don't have a view that's sold or makes sense.
And now it sounds like you're trying to pretend otherwise.

robinph · 11-06-2021 1:43pm

Himnydownunder wrote: »

I’m not going to bother giving any more alternative views here. It seems on Boards.ie unless you say “Ireland did a good job with the pandemic,” “Stephen Donnelly is a legend,” “we are doing really well with our vaccine roll out” and/ or “glad the pandemic is over now and the good times are ahead,” you will be shouted down and trolled to death. People really don’t want to even listen to any view other than the one being touted by the mainstream media.

There are plenty of threads in other forums on boards to post critically about how different countries have dealt with the pandemic and what they have done wrong. This thread is for people who claim that there is some variation of no pandemic, or that it's a big conspiracy by some unknown <other> and that the rest of us are all being tricked somehow.

Dohnjoe · 11-06-2021 3:32pm

"I have a prediction that this thing is going to happen"

-Okay why is that thing going to happen?

"Because there's a conspiracy"

-Okay, and what's the conspiracy?

"Too many questions on this forum, I'm leaving"

Timberrrrrrrr · 11-06-2021 4:14pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

"I have a prediction that this thing is going to happen"

-Okay why is that thing going to happen?

"Because there's a conspiracy"

-Okay, and what's the conspiracy?

"Too many questions on this forum, I'm leaving"

Pretty much every conspiracy theorist in every thread since God knows how long.

Dohnjoe · 14-06-2021 12:48pm

Also worth pointing out that this poster is stating that another lockdown will occur in September. Not "could" or "might" followed by normal reasoning, just a flat-out Mystic Meg do-or-die prediction.

That's very different from the fact that measures could hypothetically be introduced if something unexpected or extreme happened, e.g. a new variant was more resistant to vaccines, there was a totally new virus, etc.

So if something, anything related to any lockdown measure occurs in the 2nd half of this year, 100% this poster will return to gloat they were "right" all along. If it doesn't, we won't see sight nor sound of them. That's how conspiracy theory forum predictions work, sheer brute force, countless people making countless guesses, eventually someone gets something vaguely right, and of course they are treated like some sort of "prophet" by likeminded individuals.

astrofool · 14-06-2021 8:40pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Also worth pointing out that this poster is stating that another lockdown will occur in September. Not "could" or "might" followed by normal reasoning, just a flat-out Mystic Meg do-or-die prediction.

That's very different from the fact that measures could hypothetically be introduced if something unexpected or extreme happened, e.g. a new variant was more resistant to vaccines, there was a totally new virus, etc.

So if something, anything related to any lockdown measure occurs in the 2nd half of this year, 100% this poster will return to gloat they were "right" all along. If it doesn't, we won't see sight nor sound of them. That's how conspiracy theory forum predictions work, sheer brute force, countless people making countless guesses, eventually someone gets something vaguely right, and of course they are treated like some sort of "prophet" by likeminded individuals.

And we can use this post to point out that they were just making random guesses as their prediction wasn't based on any facts and data

Dohnjoe · 14-06-2021 11:02pm

astrofool wrote: »

And we can use this post to point out that they were just making random guesses as their prediction wasn't based on any facts and data

Exactly the reason I wrote it. I've been here too long.

Pinch Flat · 14-06-2021 11:46pm

Seems to be a common trait among tin foil hatters that they're warning us and that they're then right. Usually based on some sketchy dot joining and pseudo facts/ science.

King Mob · 14-06-2021 11:52pm

Getting pretty close to 5000 posts and yet not one person has been able to explain what measures will be permenant.

bigsuge1 · 16-06-2021 12:50pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692209/Leaked-Step-4-Whitehall-document-hints-new-normal-July-19.html

seamus · 16-06-2021 1:29pm

King Mob wrote: »

Getting pretty close to 5000 posts and yet not one person has been able to explain what measures will be permenant.

The best thing about this thread is the title. Since the boiling frog theory has been largely debunked. The frog will jump out when he gets uncomfortable. Some data suggests that there is a really, really slow threshold of warming where the frog won't jump out due to the heat, but it's so slow that the frog is likely to just jump out for air or food or whatever before you get to boil him.

If you want to boil a frog, the best way is actually to throw him into a pot of boiling water, since even if he does jump out, he'll be dead quickly and you can throw him back in.

The allegory would likely hold true for introducing wide-ranging social control measures too. A swift crackdown followed by brutal suppression of any resistance would yield a much more compliant population rather than trying to introduce measures under false pretences and then keep them going without any physical enforcement.

King Mob · 16-06-2021 1:49pm

seamus wrote: »

The best thing about this thread is the title. Since the boiling frog theory has been largely debunked. The frog will jump out when he gets uncomfortable. Some data suggests that there is a really, really slow threshold of warming where the frog won't jump out due to the heat, but it's so slow that the frog is likely to just jump out for air or food or whatever before you get to boil him.

If you want to boil a frog, the best way is actually to throw him into a pot of boiling water, since even if he does jump out, he'll be dead quickly and you can throw him back in.

The allegory would likely hold true for introducing wide-ranging social control measures too. A swift crackdown followed by brutal suppression of any resistance would yield a much more compliant population rather than trying to introduce measures under false pretences and then keep them going without any physical enforcement.

Which is generally why conspiracy mongers stay away from pronouncements like that.
To make them marketable, you need to have a deadline to give them a sense of urgency and drama. If the deadline is just vague and open, it doesn't really hook people.
But giving them a deadline means that eventually, they'll be shown to be wrong.
An example of this is all the claims about Jade Helm a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

Conspiracy mongers get a lot more play out of the boiling frog thing as it can stretch out indefinitely and everything they point to can be a dramatic step towards boiling point. You also don't need to have a deadline, you can always postpone it.
Like now, when restrictions are eased and it becomes undeniable that none of them are going to be permanent for any sinister reason, conspiracy theorists aren't going to say that they were wrong. We'll start hearing how that Covid 19 was "a test run" and they were "seeing how compliant we are." etc.
Then in about 10 years when the next major global event rolls round, the cycle will repeat and conspiracy theorists will pretend that all these claims being made on this thread never happened.

Dohnjoe · 16-06-2021 1:56pm

King Mob wrote: »

Which is generally why conspiracy mongers stay away from pronouncements like that.
To make them marketable, you need to have a deadline to give them a sense of urgency and drama. If the deadline is just vague and open, it doesn't really hook people.
But giving them a deadline means that eventually, they'll be shown to be wrong.
An example of this is all the claims about Jade Helm a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

Conspiracy mongers get a lot more play out of the boiling frog thing as it can stretch out indefinitely and everything they point to can be a dramatic step towards boiling point. You also don't need to have a deadline, you can always postpone it.
Like now, when restrictions are eased and it becomes undeniable that none of them are going to be permanent for any sinister reason, conspiracy theorists aren't going to say that they were wrong. We'll start hearing how that Covid 19 was "a test run" and they were "seeing how compliant we are." etc.
Then in about 10 years when the next major global event rolls round, the cycle will repeat and conspiracy theorists will pretend that all these claims being made on this thread never happened.

The worst part of it is it's a collection of people repeatedly claiming every major event is 50 different conspiracies - eventually something is going to come along that's somewhat of a conspiracy and the conspiracy community are going to collectively lose it: "We were right all along", "we can never be discounted again" "conspiracies are now validated", etc

Calling it now.

seamus · 16-06-2021 2:22pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The worst part of it is it's a collection of people repeatedly claiming every major event is 50 different conspiracies - eventually something is going to come along that's somewhat of a conspiracy and the conspiracy community are going to collectively lose it: "We were right all along", "we can never be discounted again" "conspiracies are now validated", etc

Calling it now.

I don't know. If covid is anything to go by, they'll open their arms and embrace it.

We know there's a strong overlap between doomsday preppers and conspiracy theorists, especially in the U.S.

Yet it seems that as soon as a situation occurred that called for isolation and a big stock of supplies, they were the first people to say, "There's nothing happening, there's no pandemic, there's no reason to not walk out into the streets".

Dohnjoe · 16-06-2021 2:28pm

seamus wrote: »

I don't know. If covid is anything to go by, they'll open their arms and embrace it.

We know there's a strong overlap between doomsday preppers and conspiracy theorists, especially in the U.S.

Yet it seems that as soon as a situation occurred that called for isolation and a big stock of supplies, they were the first people to say, "There's nothing happening, there's no pandemic, there's no reason to not walk out into the streets".

I'd also add anti-vaxxers into that overlap.

On this forum they've generally been divided between

1. There's no pandemic, it's all been overhyped by the powers-that-be in order to "take control", "track us", etc

2. There is a pandemic which was caused by the powers-that-be in order to "take control", "track us", etc

It's essentially choose-your-own-adventure

silliussoddius · 16-06-2021 2:57pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I'd also add anti-vaxxers into that overlap.

On this forum they've generally been divided between

1. There's no pandemic, it's all been overhyped by the powers-that-be in order to "take control", "track us", etc

2. There is a pandemic which was caused by the powers-that-be in order to "take control", "track us", etc

It's essentially choose-your-own-adventure

With each individual conspiracy theorist a hero in their own story, the Q cult really turned this up to 11.

buzzerxx · 16-06-2021 6:21pm

People getting the
s h o t are like “I did my research”.
Me: “You are the research.” :pac:

Pinch Flat · 16-06-2021 7:07pm

buzzerxx wrote: »

People getting the
s h o t are like “I did my research”.
Me: “You are the research.” :pac:

You should mention that to the consultants, surgeons, doctors, nurses and other health specialists who got vaccinated at the hospital my wife works in. Give them all a chuckle.

PintOfView · 16-06-2021 8:06pm

King Mob wrote: »

Which is generally why conspiracy mongers stay away from pronouncements like that.
To make them marketable, you need to have a deadline to give them a sense of urgency and drama. If the deadline is just vague and open, it doesn't really hook people.
But giving them a deadline means that eventually, they'll be shown to be wrong.
An example of this is all the claims about Jade Helm a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

Conspiracy mongers get a lot more play out of the boiling frog thing as it can stretch out indefinitely and everything they point to can be a dramatic step towards boiling point. You also don't need to have a deadline, you can always postpone it.
Like now, when restrictions are eased and it becomes undeniable that none of them are going to be permanent for any sinister reason, conspiracy theorists aren't going to say that they were wrong. We'll start hearing how that Covid 19 was "a test run" and they were "seeing how compliant we are." etc.
Then in about 10 years when the next major global event rolls round, the cycle will repeat and conspiracy theorists will pretend that all these claims being made on this thread never happened.

Good link, that Jade Helm military exercise from 2015 makes interesting reading. Some bits from that wikipedia page

"A survey of registered Republicans by Public Policy Polling in May 2015, found
that 32% thought that "the Government is trying to take over Texas", and
that half of all Tea Party supporters are concerned with an imminent Texas invasion.

Greg Capers, sheriff of San Jacinto County, published a letter in the Cleveland Advocate (of Cleveland, Texas),
in response to numerous phone calls from citizens, in which he described
"alternative news sources" that were spreading inaccurate information about the exercise,
and encouraged citizens to "utilize legitimate mainstream news sources" for those interested in accurate information."

and

"On April 28, Texas Governor Greg Abbott ordered the Texas State Guard to monitor the operation.
"During the training operation, it is important that Texans know [that] their safety, constitutional rights,
private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed."[37][43]

On May 2, 2015, Texas senator Ted Cruz told the South Carolina Republican Party's annual convention that
he had "reached out to the Pentagon to inquire about this exercise.""

and

"Clint Watts and two others in the FBI began to notice Russian disinformation campaigns starting in April 2014.
Watts said that Russian-driven efforts to spread misinformation were involved with Jade Helm.
In 2017, Facebook shut down a page called "Heart of Texas" which was found to be associated
with a Russian company promoting disinformation, including promoting the Jade Helm conspiracy"

It's almost frightening the percentage of people that are gullible enough to swallow
these conspiracies, and who believe nonsense, and allow themselves to be led by charlatans.
What are the US Republican supporters like??? And even the Governor of Texas for God's sake??? Simply sad ...

buzzerxx · 17-06-2021 8:21pm

Pinch Flat wrote: »

You should mention that to the consultants, surgeons, doctors, nurses and other health specialists who got vaccinated at the hospital my wife works in. Give them all a chuckle.

I would say the same to the consultants, surgeons, doctors, nurses and other health specialists who got vaccinated, if they really did.

PintOfView · 17-06-2021 8:33pm

buzzerxx wrote: »

I would say the same to the consultants, surgeons, doctors, nurses and other health specialists who got vaccinated, if they really did.

Do you think it's possible the doctors and nurses, etc., are not vaccinated at all?
Do you think they're just trying to trick the rest of us into getting vaccinated?

17-06-2021 9:22pm

Neil Clark's inside source was spot on: https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1403410192289734663

Fighting Tao · 17-06-2021 9:27pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Neil Clark's inside source was spot on: https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1403410192289734663

The dog on the street knew what would happen if another wave hit. How does that prove that measures are permanent?

robinph · 17-06-2021 9:30pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Neil Clark's inside source was spot on: https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1403410192289734663

Are you claiming that this is therfore proof of a conspiracy then? If so then what is the conspiracy and why? What was their plan for July rather than June or August? Is there something significant about July that we are missing?

Or did someone just make a guess, much like the government roadmap was doing when published in February?

Dohnjoe · 17-06-2021 9:48pm

robinph wrote: »

Are you claiming that this is therfore proof of a conspiracy then? If so then what is the conspiracy and why? What was their plan for July rather than June or August? Is there something significant about July that we are missing?

Or did someone just make a guess, much like the government roadmap was doing when published in February?

Once again, countless online cranks making countless predictions. If one is vaguely right they are "hailed" in the conspiracy community. Idiotic, but that's literally how it works.

17-06-2021 9:58pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Once again, countless online cranks making countless predictions. If one is vaguely right they are "hailed" in the conspiracy community. Idiotic, but that's literally how it works.

Not vaguely right. Was spot on. His inside source told him back in January that there would be no significant easing until July.

robinph · 17-06-2021 10:02pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not vaguely right. Was spot on. His inside source told him back in January that there would be no significant easing until July.

Why July?

What does this prove?

Dohnjoe · 17-06-2021 10:11pm

Gortanna wrote: »

Not vaguely right. Was spot on. His inside source told him back in January that there would be no significant easing until July.

He doesn't have any "inside source", it's all horse****, he just watches the news like anyone else, makes predictions and conspiracy theorists are bamboozled by it. Alex Jones made a living out of it.

Do you count all his wrong predictions or let me guess, those get ignored

And what's the conspiracy?

All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

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