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Who thinks Trump will win?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He was supposed to have been destroyed by Bernie Sanders in the Democratic debate. That didn't happen either. I'm guessing the talking points after the debate on Tuesday will consist of:

    - he was on drugs,
    - Chris Wallace gave Biden the questions beforehand and/or asked him softball questions,
    - Chris Wallace has always disliked Trump and asked Trump harder questions,

    Any other guesses?

    I'll be expecting a video of Biden, carefully edited just like this



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He was supposed to have been destroyed by Bernie Sanders in the Democratic debate. That didn't happen either. I'm guessing the talking points after the debate on Tuesday will consist of:

    - he was on drugs,
    - Chris Wallace gave Biden the questions beforehand and/or asked him softball questions,
    - Chris Wallace has always disliked Trump and asked Trump harder questions,

    Any other guesses?

    I would imagine it will go something like Trump walking on stage. Composed , confident and in control of the room.
    Biden will wander in, possibly walk to the wrong side, ask the moderator to speak louder and repeat questions. Possibly go off on a tangent talking about skateboards or something of that nature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Honestly...how are Spitting Image not around in this day and age!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    I think the issue is no one is interested in his campaign...a much worse problem.

    Biden brings zero energy that's his main issue, well that and getting out of his bunker.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    I would imagine it will go something like Trump walking on stage. Composed , confident and in control of the room.
    Biden will wander in, possibly walk to the wrong side, ask the moderator to speak louder and repeat questions. Possibly go off on a tangent talking about skateboards or something of that nature.

    Come on mannnnnnn!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I would imagine it will go something like Trump walking on stage. Composed , confident and in control of the room.
    Biden will wander in, possibly walk to the wrong side, ask the moderator to speak louder and repeat questions. Possibly go off on a tangent talking about skateboards or something of that nature.
    Honestly...how are Spitting Image not around in this day and age!!!
    Biden brings zero energy that's his main issue, well that and getting out of his bunker.

    Strange then how the polls are in Bidens favour at this point. Time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I would imagine it will go something like Trump walking on stage. Composed , confident and in control of the room.
    Biden will wander in, possibly walk to the wrong side, ask the moderator to speak louder and repeat questions. Possibly go off on a tangent talking about skateboards or something of that nature.

    I presume you're taking the piss at this stage. Well played. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 DJTrump


    Trump is doing a tremendous job. Forget about sleepy Joe. #4moreyears #USA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    DJTrump wrote: »
    Trump is doing a tremendous job. Forget about sleepy Joe. #4moreyears #USA

    Hes got 4 more months...thats it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    DJTrump wrote: »
    Trump is doing a tremendous job. Forget about sleepy Joe. #4moreyears #USA

    200,000 Covid Deaths
    Highest unemployment rate in centuries
    Reversal of Environment Protection Measures
    Empowerment of Russia in interfering in external affairs
    US unity at lowest level in most of our life times.

    How exactly is he doing a tremendous job?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The fact that Biden is polling so well despite not trying to be the center of attention all the time just shows how unpopular Trump is. It would also be silly to change course at this point. Right now, it's what, This is a referendum on Trump and Trump and his fans don't like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,906 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I took the bait? If you are able to read, you'll see I never took any bait, I asked for help.

    I asked for help spotting how a video could be doctored and a poster pointed it out to me....I haven't suggested that I don't believe that videos can be doctored...I'd imagine it is rampant...both sides are at it.

    I witnessed a video edited and circulated by media back in June, when Trump was accused of saying that George Floyd would be looking down and saying this is a great thing for our country - regarding the better than expected jobs figures....

    This was the headline in The Guardian but I saw this happening real time at least 12 media organisations published the edited video.

    Revolting - Trump condemned for saying George Floyd is praising the US economy

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/05/trump-george-floyd-comments-economy-unemployment

    The video that was circulated in Irish media was edited as well and reported the same way...he did not mention George Floyd whilst speaking about job figures at all they edited the video to make it look like he did.

    I don't know why you think I've been found out or some such...I have repeatedly suggested on this website that no media outlet can be trusted, absolutely none.

    I have posted a tiny few videos of thousands of Supporters at Trump rallies all over the country, I'd love you to point out one that is doctored...

    The mask has well and truly slipped.

    Do you at least agree that Biden is much more able, physically and mentally, than Trump? Ignoring the policy differences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    200,000 Covid Deaths
    Highest unemployment rate in centuries
    Reversal of Environment Protection Measures
    Empowerment of Russia in interfering in external affairs
    US unity at lowest level in most of our life times.

    How exactly is he doing a tremendous job?

    "Owning the libs". That's all they have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,906 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The fact that Biden is polling so well despite not trying to be the center of attention all the time just shows how unpopular Trump is. It would also be silly to change course at this point. Right now, it's what, This is a referendum on Trump and Trump and his fans don't like that.

    Biden is campaigning smart, Trump is campaigning dumb, getting caught today with a mask on, at a funeral of someone he disparaged, and getting shouted out, was his Sepp Blatter shower of money moment.

    He's going to get even more deranged now, the obfuscation and lies from his supporters will increase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The best part is that the Trumpists are convinced that Biden will be a drooling demented mess at the debate on Tuesday. I'm really looking forward to the talking points that they'll come up with on Wednesday morning.


    It'll be like what happened after the town halls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    astrofool wrote: »
    The mask has well and truly slipped.

    Do you at least agree that Biden is much more able, physically and mentally, than Trump? Ignoring the policy differences.

    What mask...what are you on about?

    I'll put it to you this way...Biden has had accusations of being drugged to pep him up a bit...but from what I can see, its Trump who must be on something...I don't know any man that age that can do what he is doing...Mick Jagger maybe!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    astrofool wrote: »
    He's going to get even more deranged now, the obfuscation and lies from his supporters will increase.


    That has been true for every moment of his presidency. It's only a matter of time before he and his supporters go full QAnon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Joe Biden endorsed, Trump excoriated by nearly 500 retired top military, national security officials

    WASHINGTON – Nearly 500 generals, admirals and former national security officials from both parties endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday, and blasted President Donald Trump as "not equal" to the challenges of the job in a letter released Thursday.

    The letter, signed by 489 members of the group called the National Security Leaders for Biden, includes former Obama administration Defense Secretaries Ash Carter, Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta, along with former Navy Secretary and NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe, who served under both former Presidents George H.W. and George W. Bush. Among the retired senior officers is Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who until last year was the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    What mask...what are you on about?

    I'll put it to you this way...Biden has had accusations of being drugged to pep him up a bit...but from what I can see, its Trump who must be on something...I don't know any man that age that can do what he is doing...Mick Jagger maybe!!!


    While that post sounds perfectly sane, I should point out that there was, in fact, a mask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    While that post sounds perfectly sane, I should point out that there was, in fact, a mask.

    What mask? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,906 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    What mask...what are you on about?

    I'll put it to you this way...Biden has had accusations of being drugged to pep him up a bit...but from what I can see, its Trump who must be on something...I don't know any man that age that can do what he is doing...Mick Jagger maybe!!!

    So, Biden is more able, physically and mentally (ignoring the lies), than Trump, and Trump is probably on drugs, but is somehow still worse than Biden? Or do you think Trump + drugs is more able than Biden, despite all factual evidence to the contrary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    astrofool wrote: »
    So, Biden is more able, physically and mentally (ignoring the lies), than Trump, and Trump is probably on drugs, but is somehow still worse than Biden? Or do you think Trump + drugs is more able than Biden, despite all factual evidence to the contrary?

    Did that make anyone else dizzy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    The fact that Biden is polling so well despite not trying to be the center of attention all the time just shows how unpopular Trump is. It would also be silly to change course at this point. Right now, it's what, This is a referendum on Trump and Trump and his fans don't like that.

    Hopefully that will translate to a Biden win in November, but the fact that Hilary was ahead in the polls in the 2016 election concerns me. That said, in the end I think it was revealed that Trump didn't actually beat her by much. Surely the Americans wouldn't vote him in again...would they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,906 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Did that make anyone else dizzy?

    Biden is mentally and physically more able for president than Trump, fact, the Biden videos trying to show otherwise are generally out of context or edited to look bad, fact.

    Hopefully no dizziness this time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Hopefully that will translate to a Biden win in November, but the fact that Hilary was ahead in the polls in the 2016 election concerns me. That said, in the end I think it was revealed that Trump didn't actually beat her by much. Surely the Americans wouldn't vote him in again...would they?


    Clinton's lead wasn't as large as Biden's and there were many more undecided voters (4% now v 13% then). Quin_Dub has posted about this a few times. 80,000 votes or so made the difference.


    Given all the talk from Trump about voter fraud, I'm guessing that the internal polling that he's getting is bad. If it was pointing to victory, he wouldn't be casting so much doubt on it.


    Still, it's possible for him to win. It all comes down to certain states so it's the state polling that people need to be looking at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    . . . .
    The letter, signed by 489 members of the group called the National Security Leaders for Biden, includes former Obama administration Defense Secretaries Ash Carter, Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta, along with former Navy Secretary and NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe, who served under both former Presidents George H.W. and George W. Bush. Among the retired senior officers is Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who until last year was the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump.

    What exactly do they mean by national security? Does that mean defending US borders or crossing other countries borders? Isn't national security just a euphemism for the media military industrial complex foreign interventions? It seems to me that Biden is courting the permanent government (aka the Deep State) rather than Democrat voters.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I think the issue is no one is interested in his campaign...a much worse problem.

    Not necessarily a problem when the other half shoots himself in the foot every time though.

    This was always going to be a referendum on Trump, no matter who the candidate was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Not necessarily a problem when the other half shoots himself in the foot every time though.

    This was always going to be a referendum on Trump, no matter who the candidate was.

    It's become a referendum on Trump because there is no other candidate...a Bernie Sanders v Trump campaign would look a lot different to this one!!!! If you are honest, you know this to be true.

    There is a reason nobody is coming out to support Biden and it ain't covid.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    It's become a referendum on Trump because there is no other candidate...a Bernie Sanders v Trump campaign would look a lot different to this one!!!! If you are honest, you know this to be true.

    There is a reason nobody is coming out to support Biden and it ain't covid.

    Actually no, this was always going to be a referendum on Trump.

    If it was Sanders vs Trump then absolutely the campaign is different, but moderates don’t jump to the progressive side so easily unless the other option is horrendous, ergo referendum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's become a referendum on Trump because there is no other candidate...a Bernie Sanders v Trump campaign would look a lot different to this one!!!! If you are honest, you know this to be true.

    There is a reason nobody is coming out to support Biden and it ain't covid.

    If you are honest, you know that Trump doesn't come close to Biden in terms of who has the more integrity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    If you are honest, you know that Trump doesn't come close to Biden in terms of who has the more integrity.

    I don't think anyone at National Politics level has integrity...you'd be fairly innocent if you think they have...they are all worth tens of millions...how do you think they got that money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    200,000 Covid Deaths
    Highest unemployment rate in centuries
    Reversal of Environment Protection Measures
    Empowerment of Russia in interfering in external affairs
    US unity at lowest level in most of our life times.

    How exactly is he doing a tremendous job?

    Are you just going to ignore that each of the points above have been debated and each one lost by your side of the aisle?

    They were all weak arguments to begin with. Listing them all together doesn't change that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,853 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Are you just going to ignore that each of the points above have been debated and each one lost by your side of the aisle?

    They were all weak arguments to begin with. Listing them all together doesn't change that.

    None of these points have been debated; further, all of them are true, so unless you're just making it up, post your facts to refute that there haven't been 200,000 deaths, to start with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,853 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    What exactly do they mean by national security? Does that mean defending US borders or crossing other countries borders? Isn't national security just a euphemism for the media military industrial complex foreign interventions? It seems to me that Biden is courting the permanent government (aka the Deep State) rather than Democrat voters.

    Instead of being lazy (a typical tGOP poster behavior on these boards,) do look at the signatories of this letter and then come back to us.

    Here's some hints: most are retired. Many are ex-military and ex-N.S.A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Are you just going to ignore that each of the points above have been debated and each one lost by your side of the aisle?

    They were all weak arguments to begin with. Listing them all together doesn't change that.

    They can't see it...

    They seem to think that Trump is the only person voters are voting on.

    This last 6 months have been unprecedented...a pandemic, lockdowns (to varying degrees), economic crashes (to varying degrees), BLM Riots nationwide, a huge surge in gun ownership, who is on the right side of all of those?

    The so called Red States and the Blue States have had two pretty different 6 months.


    This is also a vote on the Democrat Party....it is a presidential election. You only need to look at the complete absence in public support and if you are not getting uncomfortable you should probably start thinking about it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Momentum seems to be building for the president now. So much energy and enthusiasm which Americans love to see. Biden can't seem to get out of his house let alone look presidential.


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    Are you just going to ignore that each of the points above have been debated and each one lost by your side of the aisle?

    They were all weak arguments to begin with. Listing them all together doesn't change that.

    Speaking of ignoring points, you may have missed my last reply to you....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Instead of being lazy (a typical tGOP poster behavior on these boards,) do look at the signatories of this letter and then come back to us.

    Here's some hints: most are retired. Many are ex-military and ex-N.S.A.

    Yeah, Federal pensions secured. You should read their letter. The Republicans and Neocons who started the Middle East wars have decamped to the Democrats under Biden. It is an appeal to the authoritarian militarist faction of the Republican party that also form part of Trumps base, the other part of Trumps base are the populists, anti-authoritarian, libertarian, individualist types who do not trust the state, big corporations, big government, big military etc. This disparate group was key to Trump winning the 2016 elections.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    hirondelle wrote: »
    Speaking of ignoring points, you may have missed my last reply to you....

    I said all I had to on the matter. I would just have been repeating myself and linking to the same testimony.
    Igotadose wrote: »
    None of these points have been debated; further, all of them are true, so unless you're just making it up, post your facts to refute that there haven't been 200,000 deaths, to start with.

    Covid Deaths, Unemployment, Roll Back of Environment Protection, Russia, Division in US etc have all been discussed on the thread and each one shown framed falsely by the left in an effort to fit the Orange Man narrative with little or no regard for the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,853 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Yeah, Federal pensions secured. You should read their letter. The Republicans and Neocons who started the Middle East wars have decamped to the Democrats under Biden. It is an appeal to the authoritarian militarist faction of the Republican party that also form part of Trumps base, the other part of Trumps base are the populists, anti-authoritarian, libertarian, individualist types who do not trust the state, big corporations, big government, big military etc. This disparate group was key to Trump winning the 2016 elections.

    Not quite the Deep State you claimed earlier, then? And, if they draw away part of Trump's base, all good.

    You disagree with the points in the letter then? What's your opinion of this quote from it:

    "The next president will inherit a nation – and a world – in turmoil. The current President has demonstrated he is not equal to the enormous responsibilities of his office; he cannot rise to meet challenges large or small. Thanks to his disdainful attitude and his failures, our allies no longer trust or respect us, and our enemies no longer fear us."

    https://www.nationalsecurityleaders4biden.com/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    I said all I had to on the matter. I would just have been repeating myself and linking to the same testimony.



    Covid Deaths, Unemployment, Roll Back of Environment Protection, Russia, Division in US etc have all been discussed on the thread and each one shown framed falsely by the left in an effort to fit the Orange Man narrative with little or no regard for the truth.

    Well, Pete, that says more about you than you probably want. "I've said all I want to say so the discussion is over" even though you didn't even attempt to answer the direct question about if you would be happy to drink water supplies affected by the issue, but plenty of time with the trite put downs etc. That is bad faith posting in my book.


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    Who thinks Trump will win?

    I guess it becomes harder if election staff keep throwing away mail-in votes for Trump in key swing states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Not quite the Deep State you claimed earlier, then? And, if they draw away part of Trump's base, all good.

    You disagree with the points in the letter then? What's your opinion of this quote from it:

    "The next president will inherit a nation – and a world – in turmoil. The current President has demonstrated he is not equal to the enormous responsibilities of his office; he cannot rise to meet challenges large or small. Thanks to his disdainful attitude and his failures, our allies no longer trust or respect us, and our enemies no longer fear us."

    https://www.nationalsecurityleaders4biden.com/





    How well has Americas role as world police since the turn of the century worked out? How many wars have ended?, countries destroyed and slavery reintroduced? Would you like to sign up?
    To sum up: Bosnia (1995), Serbia (1999), Afghanistan (2001-), Libya (2011). The four NATO wars so far, producing two dysfunctional U.S. client-states in the Balkans, a failed two decades-long “counterinsurgency” war in Central Asia, and the destruction of at least one African country.

    source


    War is the health of the state. Those guys don't care, they won't be driving over IEDs, that is for the working class not the professional class. The US military has become bogged down in unwinnable wars this century and for so long, that new recruits stationed in these countries were not even born when the invasions started. Trump has not ended these wars either, oddly any move he makes in that direction is heavily criticised by the supposed political opposition and by extension the mainstream media. How can you not have turmoil when his opposition does not want the wars to end either? The people who signed that letter want a continuation of the status quo of continuous war, they have nothing to offer.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Even though the polls say Biden will win, I have a fear of his hopes when face to face with the pitbull that is trump - a man who lives for confrontation

    Yes debating Trump will not be easy. There is no talking to him. He will just lie. It's crazy to watch him. And that it is allowed happen is even crazier.

    Gonna be great watching all the same!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    hirondelle wrote: »
    ...you didn't even attempt to answer the direct question about if you would be happy to drink water supplies affected by the issue ...

    No I wouldn't. I'm not Obama.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    200,000 deaths is crazy with all the warning Trump had and that he said he had it under control. Total lack of leadership when they needed it most.

    And still around a 1000 dying each day? How long until those deaths start to decrease, how long do cases need to be down?

    And 45,000 new cases yesterday? Are they considered being after their second wave with 45,000 cases? The first wave didn't even hit that did it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande




    This is an overview by Robert Barnes of class and cultural divides in America and how they can impact the outcome of elections. You can skip to 17:00 minutes in if you want to get to the classes that swung for Trump. Essentially the professional upper middle class will swing for Biden, but Trumps base has expanded and will vote for him.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    hirondelle wrote: »
    Well, Pete, that says more about you than you probably want. "I've said all I want to say so the discussion is over" even though you didn't even attempt to answer the direct question about if you would be happy to drink water supplies affected by the issue, but plenty of time with the trite put downs etc. That is bad faith posting in my book.

    The same old points are being addressed over and over again only to be met with the same points again.
    There are only so many times someone can be expected to repeat themselves.
    Your calls of "bad faith" posting are disingenuous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    ...
    And still around a 1000 dying each day? How long until those deaths start to decrease, how long do cases need to be down?
    ...

    The impact on the election is not the death rate, the impact is the economic, with the dividing line being between those who benefited from the lockdowns and those that lost their jobs or were furloughed.



    USA - Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19


    coviddeaths.png


    The data will likely get revised up once everyone reports however, to the week ending 12 September, 2020 - 49,733 people died in the USA from all causes of any kind. That number will likely be revised as more reports are submitted.

    The centre for disease control (CDC) measures expected deaths using a statistical method that employs actual deaths in the period 2013-2020.

    What is interesting for that week above, the predicted deaths are 52,148. Therefore, excess deaths in that week are (49,733 – 52,148) = –2,415. Excess deaths were negative, suggesting that COVID is no longer augmenting actual deaths to a measurable extent that differs from what one may have expected in its absence.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,853 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    IEDs, that is for the working class not the professional class. The US military has become bogged down in unwinnable wars this century and for so long, that new recruits stationed in these countries were not even born when the invasions started. .

    And, who gave the military the enormous budget boost in the last cycle? While barely drawing down any troop levels compared to his predecessor? That'd be the #IMPOTUS.

    I don't disagree the US Military runs things in much of the USA, which is tragic. However, it's the GOP that's spiked the pro-militarism as pro-Trump, he's replaced 'patriotism' with 'nationalism', which isn't what it's about.

    So, you're o.k. with the #IMPOTUS saying nothing about bounties on soldiers, nor his administration supporting the pro-Democracy movement in Belarus?


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