Who thinks Trump will win?

whiskeyman

Hope the mods don't mind a new thread, but I just want to see how many of us think Trump will beat Biden in Nov?
I think he just has so much of a populist ground swell and I wouldn't be surprised if 'external' participants get involved in the process.

Do you think he'll get reelected?
Where will that leave America?

a very cool kid

whiskeyman wrote: »

Hope the mods don't mind a new thread, but I just want to see how many of us think Trump will beat Biden in Nov?
I think he just has so much of a populist ground swell and I wouldn't be surprised if 'external' participants get involved in the process.

Do you think he'll get reelected?
Where will that leave America?

I absolutely hope he doesn't but I don't know it's hard to see how he loses. He has a sold 35% bought and paid for (like guaranteed vote) so he only needs around 1 in 5 voters after this.

humberklog

Yep, he'll win.

I heard a snippet of Biden this morning and he sounded woeful. Dems have effed it up again in their weird selection. My opinion of course and just a guess.

Chris_Heilong

Yeah, he is doing well and all the left wing media supporting the riots in as far as calling them peaceful while anyone with eyes can see the buildings burning behind the reporter. This is making people switch sides as no sane educated person would dream of voting for a party that supports that.

WrenBoy

I didn't think he would until the riots took a bit of a sinister twist recently, optics are bad for Biden and the Dems who rightly or wrongly could be viewed as backing the protests and riots "initially" but now have given Trump a large stick to beat them with. The behaviour of some of the protestors could push those who would have been sympathetic to the movement and in the middle ground towards Trump as his handling of Covid-19 is being pushed from the headlines.

Who knows though its anyones race at the minute. Race relations is going to be a massive issue for a while now I imagine. And Im sure we'll feel the shockwaves of it here unfortunately.

Quantum Erasure

I'd say he'll be re-elected, but lose the popular vote by a wider margin, which means nothing really

Elwood_Blues

Can't stand the man and think he's a terrible human being but still think he'll get back in.. Even if he doesn't I think Merica is too divided and has a long way back..

sabat

Biden looks like he's been pumped full of enough meds to enable him to read out a few inane talking points. Trump win imo.

Eric Cartman

I think he’ll win, he’s not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but he’s the president america deserves and is in my book a better representative of the american people than Biden could ever be. (Which is more a comment on the general american population than biden)

LessOutragePlz

Hopefully he does get re-elected so he can keep making America Great for another 4 years.

The Dems are doing themselves no favours with this rhetoric.

https://twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1300520249196978176?s=19

whiskeyman

Wow, wasn't expecting such a response already for Trump!
Guess my fears..like many others... will probably be realised.

Elwood_Blues

If Biden did win wonder what the odds would be of him being assassinated?

Eric Cartman

Elwood_Blues wrote: »

If Biden did win wonder what the odds would be of him being assassinated?

Quite low, everyone said that about obama, didnt happen. The american right are not the ones who are that sore about losing. Wouldnt expect riots, protests or investigations either like we saw in 2016

Elwood_Blues

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Quite low, everyone said that about obama, didnt happen. The american right are not the ones who are that sore about losing. Wouldnt expect riots, protests or investigations either like we saw in 2016

True enough but the country seems even further apart since the Obama era. Might be worth a fiver though :P

sabat

a very cool kid wrote: »

I absolutely hope he doesn't but I don't know it's hard to see how he loses. He has a sold 35% bought and paid for (like guaranteed vote) so he only needs around 1 in 5 voters after this.

Not even that because of the electoral college. We're talking about probably a couple of hundred thousand people in each swing state.

nthclare

The republicans will win with a landslide.

Too Tough To Die

All of the momentum is with Trump. Democrats dropping the ball big time. Again. Right now, I see him winning it.

Elwood_Blues

nthclare wrote: »

The republicans will win with a landslide.

Surely there's an easier way of stopping the dem voters than with a landslide! Seems a bit extreme..

jimmycrackcorm

humberklog wrote: »

Yep, he'll win.

I heard a snippet of Biden this morning and he sounded woeful. Dems have effed it up again in their weird selection. My opinion of course and just a guess.

It wouldn't matter who the Dems would have put forward. Gop supporters would still be trying to highlight the Dem candidate with perceived flaws and slurs such as "Lock her up".

Trump sounds woeful every time he speaks. We're just so used to it at this stage that it's not possible for him to be worse.

whiskeyman

Even if someone like Obama was running against him, I wonder would Trump still prevail?

JohnnyFlash

Michelle Obama should have been cajoled / blackmailed / pleaded with to run as the Democratic candidate.

TheValeyard

I think the riots will hand Trump a win. Hope to be wrong, but Biden is just not a strong candidate or great speaker.


Trump should loose easily with his record but you're dealing with Americans, so anything can happen

brentanrodgers

A few months back I was thinking he had no chance, but now I'm not so sure. I don't think the average person is thrilled to see all the riots and looting going on lately, and the subsequent reaction or lack there of from Democrats, especially local ones. It's pretty much his best angle of attack to try and get reelected - even the NYPD police union endorsed him, and they've never endorsed a Presidential candidate in their history.

ceadaoin.

whiskeyman wrote: »

Even if someone like Obama was running against him, I wonder would Trump still prevail?

No way. Someone like Obama would have a landslide victory. The democrats have picked the worst possible candidate again. Youd have to wonder is it deliberate at this stage.

I did think Trump would be gone for sure but now, I dont think so. Our visas are up for renewal early next year and if trump is in I dont think they'll be getting approved so time to put plans in place.

Mr. Karate

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Yeah, he is doing well and all the left wing media supporting the riots in as far as calling them peaceful while anyone with eyes can see the buildings burning behind the reporter. This is making people switch sides as no sane educated person would dream of voting for a party that supports that.

Plus if the Democrats thought they had a any chance of winning they would have condemned these riots and shut them down months ago.

Silentcorner

It's hard to believe sometimes that a first time politician, a businessman with a dodgy reputation, inarticulate and prone to almost comic like narcissism could do at least as good a job as his predecessors but it seems to be the case...

Who knew that

Reducing the cost of pharmaceuticals for ordinary people
Getting more ordinary people into jobs
Getting ordinary people in to jobs that pay more
Stop sending ordinary people to needless wars
Getting ordinary people who were given severe jail sentences for petite crime
Driving investment into to poor black neighbourhoods

Would go down well with voters.

That is before we get into law and order.

He is his own worst enemy sometimes, but he is one of the few people who could withstand that barrage of abuse the passes for "journalism" these days that would cripple most of us.

He has some energy for a man his age and a diabolical sense of humour....12 more years!!!

Don't be fooled by the media industry or the polls, this is going to be a landslide!

antimatterx

whiskeyman wrote: »

Even if someone like Obama was running against him, I wonder would Trump still prevail?

Obama would analiate him in the debates.

.anon.

Elwood_Blues wrote: »

If Biden did win wonder what the odds would be of him being assassinated?

I'd say his minders will be more concerned about him going for a late night walk in his pyjamas, getting lost and dying of hypothermia. That's the impression I get from hearing him speaking anyway.

Man with broke phone

Trump will win easily, its not even close, he let the liberals run themselves and they cant stop burning buildings and painting on streets.

There are reports from major newspapers of how the upper westside of new york is being deserted after the liberals decided to put the homeless in their fancy hotels there during corona.

Yes in my back yard they wrote. You cant get a removal or rental van now because they are so busy with these people leaving full apartment blocks deserted.

They tell the journalist its because its not safe to walk around there with all the ethnic minorities who are homeless mugging and urinating all over the place. Police cant do anything about it because the liberals would have filmed them last week and harrassed them or defunded them.

People in foreign countries are refusing to believe this and are saying the people are leaving upper west side new york because nothing is open because of lockdown imposed by their liberal leaders. They want to go live in a republican place where you can go buy a steak or quinoa steak atleast.

Look it was fun thinking we could live in a world where people were awarded for not working. People would be hugged for robbing convenience stores. People would be called joggers for robbing building sites while running. People who cash dodgey checks should be able to chose whether they wanted to be arrested or not. We would open our borders and let the whole world come live in this utopia.

But first we will go out everynight and try burn any building that generates tax to fund all this daydreaming.

Trump will smash it. Timing was perfect. Call him an idiot all you want, this is a masterstroke.

The day after he is elected the riot squads will go on a recruitment drive.

The_Kew_Tour

Biden to win. Just.

The Raging Bile Duct

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Michelle Obama should have been cajoled / blackmailed / pleaded with to run as the Democratic candidate.

Wouldn't that just play into the same problems that they had with Hillary and the notion of entitlement? Michelle Obama would be one of the worst candidates they could put forward.

Odhinn

whiskeyman wrote: »

Hope the mods don't mind a new thread, but I just want to see how many of us think Trump will beat Biden in Nov?
I think he just has so much of a populist ground swell and I wouldn't be surprised if 'external' participants get involved in the process.

Do you think he'll get reelected?
Where will that leave America?

He's done nothing to alienate his base support, so its not inconceivable that he will in fact win again.

suicide_circus

Pretty much all the, forgive me, main stream media we consume is anti Trump in Europe. RTE, BBC, Newstalk, Irish Times, Guardian, Channel 4 etc. In the states, apart from Fox, all major networks are true blue Dems. All politicians, public figures, talking heads, Hollywood, musicians, celebrities, the great and the good denounce him as the devil ad nauseam.

Yet he has a good chance of winning. Why is this?

Cody montana

Biden to win.
Close though.

The Raging Bile Duct

suicide_circus wrote: »

Pretty much all the, forgive me, main stream media we consume is anti Trump in Europe. RTE, BBC, Newstalk, Irish Times, Guardian, Channel 4 etc. In the states, apart from Fox, all major networks are true blue Dems. All politicians, public figures, talking heads, Hollywood, musicians, celebrities, the great and the good denounce him as the devil ad nauseam.

Yet he has a good chance of winning. Why is this?

Because Americans are fúcking idiots?

James Brown

Trump winning is a lesson the Dems never learned. Biden hasn't got the chops. If he wins it will be based on how unpopular Trump is not how popular Biden is.
Once again I do not envy the U.S. electorate those choices.

Pawwed Rig

There are rumours that Biden will try to pull out of the debates. If that happens then Trump will romp home. If Biden does well in the debates then I think he has a chance. He would have to do very well though and retreat from the extremism that seems to have overtaken the Democrats.
With the media we see here it is understandable to under estimate the level of support Trump has.

If I was a betting man I would say Trump will win. If he does the US could well rip itself apart.

I have also seen rumours of a planned Trump Trump ticket in 2024.

It is going to be an interesting one and probably the dirtiest campaign in history.

tonycascarino

Trump will win. I just cannot see Biden beating him no matter what way one looks at it.

People may vote for the side not burning the place down..

osarusan

Too early to say. The momentum has shifted one way and the other, but anything can and will happen between now and the election.

The Raging Bile Duct

It seems utterly insane to me that a country of 330 million people is run by, essentially, a two-party system. And one that seems completely incapable of any sort of bipartisanship for the benefit of the people.

mcsean2163

These democrats would beat Trump.

1. Any klobuchar- insulin for all
2. Tulsi Gabbard - unity
3. Bernie Sanders - fairness

Biden/ Kamala is a CNAS/ Clinton pick. It's a truly awful pick by the democrat party leaders. They cleared the way for Biden by asking buttigieg and klobuchar to step down so votes go to Biden and left Warren in to leech away liberal votes from Bernie.

To top it all, recent Belgium study shows hydroxychloroquinine reduces covid19 mortality by 30%. Dems excoriated Trump for promoting a drug which as it turns out if given in the correct dosage is hugely beneficial for covid19 patients. That story will run and run.

The worst thing is, both candidates are awful. What a world...

(Not a Trump fan in case anyone confused)

BorneTobyWilde

Lot of noise on the Left, lot of noise on the Right, all taking to the street, but between them there isn't a whole lot of people. Those crazies on both sides will have no influence, it's the silent majority of decent sensible Americans that will vote Trump out, even if Mickey Mouse was running against him, the majority would vote him out, just to get him out.

The Raging Bile Duct

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

There are rumours that Biden will try to pull out of the debates. If that happens then Trump will romp home. If Biden does well in the debates then I think he has a chance. He would have to do very well though and retreat from the extremism that seems to have overtaken the Democrats.
With the media we see here it is understandable to under estimate the level of support Trump has.

If I was a betting man I would say Trump will win. If he does the US could well rip itself apart.

I have also seen rumours of a planned Trump Trump ticket in 2024.

It is going to be an interesting one and probably the dirtiest campaign in history.

Are those rumours about Biden not debating coming from anywhere but Trump's side? It doesn't matter if those rumours are true, if Trump and his people say it enough, people will think they're true. It automatically puts Biden on the back foot and people will scrutinize Biden's performance at the debates. It doesn't matter that Trump hasn't said one coherent sentence in the last four years, if Biden stumbles once during the debates, there'll be accusations of senility shouted from the rooftops.

The Raging Bile Duct

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Are those rumours about Biden not debating coming from anywhere but Trump's side? It doesn't matter if those rumours are true, if Trump and his people say it enough, people will think they're true. It automatically puts Biden on the back foot and people will scrutinize Biden's performance at the debates. It doesn't matter that Trump hasn't said one coherent sentence in the last four years, if Biden stumbles once during the debates, there'll be accusations of senility shouted from the rooftops.

Well Pelosi said he shouldn't..

Atlantic Dawn

He will 100% win, Biden hasn't a hope.

KyussB

The 2020 election was over as soon as Sanders pulled out of the primaries - after that it was a choice between: 1: The same, and 2: The same Lite™.

Biden certainly has what it takes to lose.

drunkmonkey

Any better than even odds on Trump anywhere?

Pawwed Rig

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Are those rumours about Biden not debating coming from anywhere but Trump's side? It doesn't matter if those rumours are true, if Trump and his people say it enough, people will think they're true. It automatically puts Biden on the back foot and people will scrutinize Biden's performance at the debates. It doesn't matter that Trump hasn't said one coherent sentence in the last four years, if Biden stumbles once during the debates, there'll be accusations of senility shouted from the rooftops.

Nancy Pelosi said it

https://youtu.be/Yr9x7jFNIXQ

Is this kite flying?

https://youtu.be/BA3Uz4Fes-c

suicide_circus

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Because Americans are fúcking idiots?

Deplorables, eh?

The Raging Bile Duct

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Nancy Pelosi said it

https://youtu.be/Yr9x7jFNIXQ

Is this kite flying?

Pelosi says he shouldn't. She didn't say he won't. Biden responded straight away on MSNBC that he was going to debate him.