General Elections. The Constituency of Tipperary

haveringchick · 25-02-2016 7:26pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Thanks, it makes sense, just off two motorways. In the centre of the county !

Where in Thurles? Thanks

Xenophile · 25-02-2016 7:37pm

haveringchick wrote: »

Where in Thurles? Thanks

Not sure but Thurles is a very small town !

CrowdedHouse · 25-02-2016 7:46pm

haveringchick wrote: »

Where in Thurles? Thanks

Presentation Secondary School

https://goo.gl/maps/iEBt63K4nsK2

digzy · 25-02-2016 10:35pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Siobhan Ambrose will poll better than most people expect and enable to FF Candidates to be elected in the North of the county.

Michael Lowry (Ind)

Tom Hayes (Fine Gael)

Michael Smith (Fianna Fail)

Alan Kelly (Labour)

Jackie Cahill (Fianna Fail

TBF Lowry's a cert
Hayes has the west to himself
FF will get one candidate in
healy
1 from mattie/kelly

I think Healy's a cert. He will mop up the anti water charges aaa/pbp vote
Clonmel is too big a town not to have one td.

ibFoxer · 25-02-2016 10:58pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

Joh Hannigan Ind , yes he will be getting all the no 1' around here.

If i could vote twice for him i would.

touts · 25-02-2016 11:04pm

digzy wrote: »

TBF Lowry's a cert
Hayes has the west to himself
FF will get one candidate in
healy
1 from mattie/kelly

I think Healy's a cert. He will mop up the anti water charges aaa/pbp vote
Clonmel is too big a town not to have one td.

I'd agree Healy is safe. He's all over Facebook tonight saying that he isn't but that's just his attempt to make sure neither Ambrose or Mattie get in and pose a threat to his Clonmel base next time. Healy would love to be the only TD in the south. He trades on telling people how miserable their lives are and if the south is left behind in the race for investment and jobs that suits Healy.

26-02-2016 10:36am

Use your vote wisely. May the best candidates get elected. Interesting times ahead.

jem · 26-02-2016 11:50am

final prediction in order
lowry
hayes
healy
smith
kelly

mattie coming in just short in 6th

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 12:10pm

jem wrote: »

final prediction in order
lowry
hayes
healy
smith
kelly

mattie coming in just short in 6th

Fair play to you for going public with your predictions, if Healy gets a seat it will be number 5. I regret that his politics have been too negative and he no longer has a big team around him since Clonmel Borough Council has been abolished !

Mr. Guappa · 26-02-2016 12:20pm

Anyone else get a text yesterday encouraging support for Michael Lowry?

Where is he getting my number from? OH got the same text.

ChippingSodbury · 26-02-2016 12:25pm

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Anyone else get a text yesterday encouraging support for Michael Lowry?

Where is he getting my number from? OH got the same text.

Probably from Denis O'Brien (from his Esat Telecom days!)

Mr. Guappa · 26-02-2016 12:32pm

ChippingSodbury wrote: »

Probably from Denis O'Brien (from his Esat Telecom days!)

That thought crossed my mind!

It read:
"LOWRY Has Delivered Can Deliver Will Deliver For the people of TIPPERARY. Please VOTE No. 1 LOWRY this Friday. Unsubscribe: Reply with STOP.

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 1:15pm

A bit of history here in relation to Fine Gael and Tipperary.

Mulcahy initially had the inside track to becoming Taoiseach in such a government. However, he was not acceptable to Clann na Poblachta's leader, Seán MacBride. Many Irish Republicans had never forgiven him for his role in the Civil War executions carried out under the Cosgrave government. Without Clann na Poblachta, the other parties would have had 57 seats between them – 17 seats short of a majority in the 147 seat Dáil. According to Mulcahy, it was Labour leader William Norton who suggested another person as Taoiseach. Mulcahy stepped aside and encouraged his party colleague Attorney General John A. Costello to take the post of Taoiseach. From then on, Costello served as parliamentary leader of Fine Gael while Mulcahy remained nominal leader of the party.

Mulcahy went on to serve as Minister for Education from 1948 until 1951. Another coalition government came to power at the 1954 election, with Mulcahy once again stepping aside to become Minister for Education in the Second Inter-Party Government. The government fell in 1957, but Mulcahy remained as Fine Gael leader until October 1959. In October 1960 he told his Tipperary constituents that he did not intend to contest the next election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mulcahy

Risteard Mulcahy, the internationally renowned cardiologist and health campaigner, has candidly spoken of the breakdown of his marriage, which saw him eventually walk out on his wife and six children.

In his recently published book, Memoirs of a Medical Maverick, Mulcahy, 88, son of General Richard Mulcahy, a former leader of Fine Gael, also writes of how he at one time became involved with a woman who herself ended the relationship when she fell in love with an athlete -- another woman.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cardiologist-mulcahy-tells-of-his-heartbreak-in-moving-memoir-26678205.html

Mulcahy Park and Mulcahy House in Clonmel are named after the Mulcahy Family.

F34 · 26-02-2016 1:46pm

Just voted in Peter and Pauls school Clonmel really don't like the new booths they have. Felt like I had no privacy

26-02-2016 4:17pm

F34 wrote: »

Just voted in Peter and Pauls school Clonmel really don't like the new booths they have. Felt like I had no privacy

I thought it was just me! The ledge was also on the small side.

touts · 26-02-2016 5:41pm

Mattie McGrath has posted photos of himself voting in the booth today. Wonder will he be fined for that?

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 6:58pm

touts wrote: »

Mattie McGrath has posted photos of himself voting in the booth today. Wonder will he be fined for that?

Maybe the law needs to be amended so that notices must be displayed " No Phones , No cameras" except for journalists and photoraphers who are not voting in this booth.

EternalHope · 26-02-2016 7:04pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Maybe the law needs to be amended so that notices must be displayed " No Phones , No cameras" except for journalists and photoraphers who are not voting in this booth.

why are journalists allowed to take photos in the voting centre- not the booth- when others are not? Journalists are not any way special under the law

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 7:22pm

On the lighter side perhaps!

When I was a child , not so many years ago mind, it was said that the man of the house answered the door to canvassers and before the canvasser got a chance to open his mouth the householder would say " Thanks for calling, I've got four number Ones for you here!.

Now with so many young people not being able to afford their own accommodation, I think we should go back to that system for a bit of stability

.

We might be facing into a series of General Elections, as there probably is no democracy in the world where the left is more divided and on the right, still the only thing that divides them is the civil war ! Other than that we have a lot of ego driven people who have only come to prominence as a result of the downturn. These people will not give us stability !

More about this later, I almost feel certain !

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 7:26pm

EternalHope wrote: »

why are journalists allowed to take photos in the voting centre- not the booth- when others are not? Journalists are not any way special under the law

It has been a long standing tradition to photograph the President and the Party Leaders casting their votes. Maybe it is a good thing as it may well encourage others to go out and vote after seeing the above on tele casting their votes.

EternalHope · 26-02-2016 7:53pm

Xenophile wrote: »

It has been a long standing tradition to photograph the President and the Party Leaders casting their votes. Maybe it is a good thing as it may well encourage others to go out and vote after seeing the above on tele casting their votes.

traditions are not law

ch20 · 26-02-2016 7:58pm

I was voting this evening at my local polling station around half 5 .I was walking into the room to go vote and I saw Alan Kelly was walking around in the polling station. surely this is illegal?

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 8:00pm

EternalHope wrote: »

traditions are not law

Obviously they are not breaking the law!

EternalHope · 26-02-2016 8:05pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Obviously they are not breaking the law!

my understanding is cameras are not allowed in the polling station by law. so if journalist take photos in there they must be breaking the law. journalists are not any way special in law and have no rights a non journalist has

EternalHope · 26-02-2016 8:07pm

ch20 wrote: »

I was voting this evening at my local polling station around half 5 .I was walking into the room to go vote and I saw Alan Kelly was walking around in the polling station. surely this is illegal?

you should have asked him. i do not know the law about politicians being n the polling station, maybe he was voting

ch20 · 26-02-2016 8:13pm

EternalHope wrote: »

you should have asked him. i do not know the law about politicians being n the polling station, maybe he was voting

I was shocked he was walking around.It wasn't his local polling station as it was near the Tipperary Limerick border. Edit :Should took a photo of him

26-02-2016 8:14pm

EternalHope wrote: »

my understanding is cameras are not allowed in the polling station by law. so if journalist take photos in there they must be breaking the law. journalists are not any way special in law and have no rights a non journalist has

An organise photocall is a lot different from someone walking in and willynilly taking photos of all and sundry. Our President and Party leaders are traditionally photographed casting their votes. Journalists acting in an official capacity can have access to areas the common person doesn't.

EternalHope · 26-02-2016 8:17pm

ch20 wrote: »

I was shocked he was walking around.It wasn't his local polling station as it was near the Tipperary Limerick border. Edit :Should took a photo of him

what is the law no one in except returning officer?

primary 2 · 26-02-2016 9:05pm

lowry
hayes
cahill
healy

and the last seat will be a dog fight between mattie,kelly.coonan and smith transfers will be cruical if mattie is eliminated you would imagine smith should do well with his fianna fail backround

tipptom · 26-02-2016 9:06pm

Xenophile wrote: »

On the lighter side perhaps!

When I was a child , not so many years ago mind, it was said that the man of the house answered the door to canvassers and before the canvasser got a chance to open his mouth the householder would say " Thanks for calling, I've got four number Ones for you here!.

Now with so many young people not being able to afford their own accommodation, I think we should go back to that system for a bit of stability .

We might be facing into a series of General Elections, as there probably is no democracy in the world where the left is more divided and on the right, still the only thing that divides them is the civil war ! Other than that we have a lot of ego driven people who have only come to prominence as a result of the downturn. These people will not give us stability !

More about this later, I almost feel certain !

Wasn't there a big row in Limerick at the last council elections I think where someone asked the wife "was the man of the house around".

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 10:13pm

ch20 wrote: »

I was voting this evening at my local polling station around half 5 .I was walking into the room to go vote and I saw Alan Kelly was walking around in the polling station. surely this is illegal?

I would not jump to conclusions, Firstly the Minister of the Environment has ultimate responsibility for every polling station. If someone has a complaint about his behaviour they should make it. Keeping in mind that the polling clerks are employed by his Dept. In my opinion any complaint should first be made to supervisor and he or she should in turn forward it to the constituency returning officer.

To answer your question, no it is not illegal for the Minister to check out any or every polling station !

touts · 26-02-2016 10:24pm

Xenophile wrote: »

I would not jump to conclusions, Firstly the Minister of the Environment has ultimate responsibility for every polling station. If someone has a complaint about his behaviour they should make it. Keeping in mind that the polling clerks are employed by his Dept. In my opinion any complaint should first be made to supervisor and he or she should in turn forward it to the constituency returning officer.

To answer your question, no it is not illegal for the Minister to check out any or every polling station !

If he wanted to inspect polling booths he could have picked any one of thousands of others in 39 constituencies. He is clearly abusing his position to canvass in the polling booths of his constituency. When the other parties hear this Kelly better lawyer up.

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 10:31pm

touts wrote: »

If he wanted to inspect polling booths he could have picked any one of thousands of others in 39 constituencies. He is clearly abusing his position to canvass in the polling booths of his constituency. When the other parties hear this Kelly better lawyer up.

Some people, in fact many people will use any excuse to have a go at Kelly. It's just a ball of smoke, any politician that wants to make an issue out of this will just look stupid. Heaven knows we have plenty of those around !

26-02-2016 10:48pm

touts wrote: »

If he wanted to inspect polling booths he could have picked any one of thousands of others in 39 constituencies. He is clearly abusing his position to canvass in the polling booths of his constituency. When the other parties hear this Kelly better lawyer up.

He must be feeling the pressure..Arrogance is no cure for neves....

EternalHope · 26-02-2016 11:34pm

And here are the results from the Tipperary Jury. Michael Dillon one vote.....

touts · 26-02-2016 11:40pm

Looks like Cahill turned to dirty tricks in battle with Ambrose and Smith tonight.

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/rightcol/fianna-fil-campaign-rocked-in-tipperary-by-mystery-fake-message-34490538.html

bellybuster12 · 27-02-2016 12:17am

#GE16 Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI Exit Poll:
FG 26%
FF 23%
Labour 8%
SF 15%
Ind/Others 28%.

It wasnt me123 · 27-02-2016 12:44am

ch20 wrote: »

I was voting this evening at my local polling station around half 5 .I was walking into the room to go vote and I saw Alan Kelly was walking around in the polling station. surely this is illegal?

Not illegal. Candidates or people on behalf of candidates often visit poling booths during the day to find out how its progressing, the percentage of turnout, etc. They are not supposed to speak to voters or interfere with the booths themselves, can't touch electoral roles, etc, but can ask the presiding officer, at each table, about turn out.

The Lost Sheep · 27-02-2016 1:02am

ch20 wrote: »

I was voting this evening at my local polling station around half 5 .I was walking into the room to go vote and I saw Alan Kelly was walking around in the polling station. surely this is illegal?

A candidate or most likely an agent representing them can check turnout etc but as long as they don't interfere with process its fine.

EternalHope wrote: »

my understanding is cameras are not allowed in the polling station by law. so if journalist take photos in there they must be breaking the law. journalists are not any way special in law and have no rights a non journalist has

Theyre not though. You are not allowed by law to reveal by photo etc who you are voting for in the polling station but im fairly sure it doesn't state in the law you cant take photos in the polling station.

Xenophile · 27-02-2016 3:52am

Deleted User wrote: »

He must be feeling the pressure..Arrogance is no cure for neves....

What did you want him to do ? Drive a few hundred kilometres away to inspect polling booths and be back in Thurles today for the count ?

galljga1 · 27-02-2016 12:04pm

Any exit poll from Tipperary?

trixiebust · 27-02-2016 12:16pm

Did anyone else get a letter from Alan Kelly with their voting card asking for a No1 vote ?

I have only registered to vote for this election, and got a letter with my card thanking me for registering, and asking for a No 1 vote.

27-02-2016 12:35pm

Xenophile wrote: »

What did you want him to do ? Drive a few hundred kilometres away to inspect polling booths and be back in Thurles today for the count ?

You have managed his boards campaign well....;-)

27-02-2016 12:36pm

Xenophile wrote: »

What did you want him to do ? Drive a few hundred kilometres away to inspect polling booths and be back in Thurles today for the count ?

You have managed his boards campaign well....;-)

digzy · 27-02-2016 2:41pm

Is there any factual info regarding the tallys as opposed to here say and mudslinging.

I didn't give Kelly my no 1 but I couldn't care less where he was hovering around.

solerina · 27-02-2016 2:48pm

Lowry currently on top.
Cahill second
Matty third
Alan K fourth
Michael Smith fifth.
Most recent tally with 50 percent of boxes tallied.

flutered · 27-02-2016 2:51pm

on d radio kelly and mattie on 11.8%,

solerina · 27-02-2016 2:55pm

Tipp fm Twitter are keeping results update regularly, best place for latest info.

bellybuster12 · 27-02-2016 3:23pm

Independent.ie ‏@Independent_ie 14m14 minutes ago
#Tipperary: 79pc of the boxes now tallied, Michael Lowry (Ind) 17pc, Mattie McGrath (Ind) 15, Seamus Healy (Ind) 11, Alan Kelly (Labour) 11

solerina · 27-02-2016 3:25pm

Latest with 87 percent tallied
Lowry 11,104
Matty 9,560
Healy 6,696
Kelly 6,440
Cahill 6,292
Quota expected to be about 12,860.
Getting interesting now.

General Elections. The Constituency of Tipperary

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