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  • #102
    aroundthehouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭aroundthehouse


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    When many Irish people were starving to death in the 1840's, there were some who not only refused to help but stored food and made profits at the expense of the rest. This sort of greedy and non compassionate person is still clearly alive and well in Ireland today.

    Dont dare compare the poor individuals who suffered throughout the famine with this opportunist woman who is prepared to expose her children to a media circus for her own benefit rather than do what the rest of us do and work hard for what we have as opposed to relying to the state to do it due to irresponsibility and bone idleness


  • #103
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    aroundthehouse wrote: »
    Dont dare compare the poor individuals who suffered throughout the famine with this opportunist woman who is prepared to expose her children to a media circus for her own benefit rather than do what the rest of us do and work hard for what we have as opposed to relying to the state to do it due to irresponsibility and bone idleness

    Read the Garda statement, are you calling them liars?

    People are suffering and barely surviving in this state. Some people here obviously have no clue about how bad it is for some. Struggles for them is not having a second holiday per year, for many others, it's not having a roof over their heads.


  • #104
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,452 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    aroundthehouse wrote: »
    Fair play to you Blazer, about time someone came out and said it, its time the working man and woman stood up and stopped getting walked on

    The thing is a lot of working people are saying this. I cannot fathom how political parties are ignoring it.
    Is it because we’re not vocal enough? I’m often thought about setting up a new party that places the working people as the heart of the party but I wouldn’t have a clue where to start.
    I’m also the father of 2 kids with ASD so wouldn’t have the time.
    The rub is if I was unemployed I would be a shoe in for a council house with the kids as the local TD told my missus but because I have a great paying job I have to do it the proper way of saving and paying it myself and rightly so.
    It’s sickening to see so called people take advantage of the system and I have seen extended members of my own family do this.


  • #105
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    When many Irish people were starving to death in the 1840's, there were some who not only refused to help but stored food and made profits at the expense of the rest. This sort of greedy and non compassionate person is still clearly alive and well in Ireland today.




    Yes. She posted photos of her children in a Garda station last night. She is greedy, selfish & non compassionate to people ahead of her in the queue



    It's easy to fall into the trap of feeling sorry for her. I do myself. I'd love her to be housed but I feel more sorry for the people she is trying to cheat out of their place on the housing list.


  • #106
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    There are shocking comments about this "mother" because she set the whole thing up. If she presented herself as homeless yesterday morning she would have had beds for her children last night. I'm as certain of that as I am certain that she WILL have beds for her children tonight. She deliberately left it too late yesterday evening when she presented herself as homeless



    Let me explain


    She lived in the same place for 11 years. She didn't wake up yesterday to find the landlord changing the locks. She had notice in writing. She had MONTHS to prepare for this.



    Had she gone to Peter McVerry yesterday morning he would have found her somewhere. DCC would have found her a hostel if she didn't leave it till yesterday evening



    There are some VERY genuine cases on the homeless / housing list & this woman thinks it's ok to exploit her children to try cheat someone following all the rules looking for housing. It's the bottom of the list is where she belongs. What she is trying to do is not fair on the people on the housing list ahead of her

    Hearsay and gossip.


  • #107
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    There are shocking comments about this "mother" because she set the whole thing up. If she presented herself as homeless yesterday morning she would have had beds for her children last night. I'm as certain of that as I am certain that she WILL have beds for her children tonight. She deliberately left it too late yesterday evening when she presented herself as homeless



    Let me explain


    She lived in the same place for 11 years. She didn't wake up yesterday to find the landlord changing the locks. She had notice in writing. She had MONTHS to prepare for this.



    Had she gone to Peter McVerry yesterday morning he would have found her somewhere. DCC would have found her a hostel if she didn't leave it till yesterday evening



    There are some VERY genuine cases on the homeless / housing list & this woman thinks it's ok to exploit her children to try cheat someone following all the rules looking for housing. It's the bottom of the list is where she belongs. What she is trying to do is not fair on the people on the housing list ahead of her

    Has anyone seen that UK based show "Can't Pay We'll Take It Away"?

    Case on it the other week - mother had not paid the small contribution to rent for some time, nearly #6,000GBP built up. How long would that take to amasss when you're only paying a few quid a week ?

    Contact after contact after contact - visits - County Court actions, nothing - ultimately went for eviction via the High Court bailiffs.

    Her whining was "you've given us an hour to get out". How ridiculous! No one gets to live n someone else's property for free. Or they shouldn't!

    Place was left like a midden afterwards. And yet there are some on here who condemn landlords.


  • #108
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Blazer wrote: »
    The thing is a lot of working people are saying this. I cannot fathom how political parties are ignoring it.
    Is it because we’re not vocal enough? I’m often thought about setting up a new party that places the working people as the heart of the party but I wouldn’t have a clue where to start.
    I’m also the father of 2 kids with ASD so wouldn’t have the time.
    The rub is if I was unemployed I would be a shoe in for a council house with the kids as the local TD told my missus but because I have a great paying job I have to do it the proper way of saving and paying it myself and rightly so.
    It’s sickening to see so called people take advantage of the system and I have seen extended members of my own family do this.

    There are loads of working families struggling. Some people are earning 20,000 and less per annum. Putting food on the table is really difficult, never mind paying for rent or a mortgage!


  • #109
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    aroundthehouse wrote: »
    Thats not it at all, imagine we all decided we would have multiple kids with different fathers, no job, and expect the state to look after us, the country would immediately shut down, all we are saying is, people need to take responsibility for their actions, if you decide to go out and have 6 kids outside of a stable environment where the father(s) just feck off when it suits them, its just not on, equally and even more so, these fathers of these kids are a disgrace, again they take no responsibility for their actions, they go around having loads of kids with different women and expect the state to look after them, its the kids i feel sorry for but what chance have they and the cycle just repeats itself when they grow up

    Would you do it? I assume not.

    I wouldn't do it either.

    The country would not grind to a halt with decent safety nets for people. People are generally too ambitious for that.


  • #110
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Yes. She posted photos of her children in a Garda station last night. She is greedy, selfish & non compassionate to people ahead of her in the queue



    It's easy to fall into the trap of feeling sorry for her. I do myself. I'd love her to be housed but I feel more sorry for the people she is trying to cheat out of their place on the housing list.

    She and her poor kids need help. Instead of hoping for that, many here are shouting about punishing her.

    The gardaí have released a statement, this was not a set up.


  • #111
    aroundthehouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭aroundthehouse


    Blazer wrote: »
    The thing is a lot of working people are saying this. I cannot fathom how political parties are ignoring it.
    Is it because we’re not vocal enough? I’m often thought about setting up a new party that places the working people as the heart of the party but I wouldn’t have a clue where to start.
    I’m also the father of 2 kids with ASD so wouldn’t have the time.
    The rub is if I was unemployed I would be a shoe in for a council house with the kids as the local TD told my missus but because I have a great paying job I have to do it the proper way of saving and paying it myself and rightly so.
    It’s sickening to see so called people take advantage of the system and I have seen extended members of my own family do this.

    I think that is the issue, working people are not vocal enough, working people just get the head down and get on with things wheras politicians target the long term unemployed, single mothers etc because if they look after them with a pair of runners for the young lad or a council house, they know its a guaranteed vote

    It is absolutely soul destroying to see people defraud the system when good people like yourself and doing things the right way, all i can say it fair play to you and pity there arent more like you


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  • #112
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Sleeper12 wrote:
    She lived in the same place for 11 years. She didn't wake up yesterday to find the landlord changing the locks. She had notice in writing. She had MONTHS to prepare for this.


    Can you prove any of the above? Otherwise it would be safe to assume it's nothing more than gossip.


  • #113
    aroundthehouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭aroundthehouse


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Would you do it? I assume not.

    I wouldn't do it either.

    The country would not grind to a halt with decent safety nets for people. People are generally too ambitious for that.

    exactly but thats the point, because the majority of us work and pay taxes it allows the likes of this woman to abuse the system


  • #114
    aroundthehouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭aroundthehouse


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    There are loads of working families struggling. Some people are earning 20,000 and less per annum. Putting food on the table is really difficult, never mind paying for rent or a mortgage!

    They are the people that should be granted help, not someone who decides to haul her kids into a cop shop so she can get a free house


  • #115
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Hearsay and gossip.


    John it's how it works. It's not Hearsay and gossip to state that she had months notice. You can be certain that that's the first thing she would have posted if the landlord illegally put her on the streets. It is a fact that had she engaged with DCC & homeless charities before yesterday evening she would have had a bed for her children last night. I'm that positive that I'd gladly bet that she has a bed for tonight. Same bed she could have had last night if she really wanted.


  • #116
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    aroundthehouse wrote: »
    They are the people that should be granted help, not someone who decides to haul her kids into a cop shop so she can get a free house

    No such thing as a free house and like I've already asked, are you calling the Gardaí liars?


  • #117
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    No such thing as a free house

    Explain the 70 million owned to local authorities for unpaid rents and arrears
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  • #118
    aroundthehouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭aroundthehouse


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    No such thing as a free house and like I've already asked, are you calling the Gardaí liars?

    correct, no such thing as a free house, someone has to pay for it and in this case its the tax payer

    am i calling the gardai liars? how would they know if it was orchestrated or not? of course it was orchestrated, what sort of a woman brings her kids into a cop shop tells them to lie down on the chairs and takes pictures of them and posts them online so she can skip the housing list, disgrace


  • #119
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    My bad. Instead of saying "mother" I should have posted unfit mother.

    I honestly believe social services should investigate a "mother" who would use her children in such a fashion.


    How is the mother in this case an unfit mother? I would suggest she was rather more unfortunate than unfit, but she’s doing something as opposed to doing nothing or relying solely on social services for assistance. Social services may well be involved, but having worked in the homeless services sector I’m sure you’re no doubt aware of how under-resourced they are that they simply don’t have the resources to investigate every single case that is reported to them, let alone have they the means to do anything about it. That’s exactly why families like the mother and her children in this case are forced to report to Garda stations seeking accommodation for the night. The Gardai in these situations can’t do a whole lot other than contact homeless services on their behalf.

    A real mother or father for that matter wouldn't use their children like that. I don't think for a second that between the parents (there's at least two) they couldn't place the children with the grandparents, aunts, uncles or friends. It certainly looks like "Daddy" found a place to stay. Oh yeah photo wouldn't look as shocking if "daddy" was there


    Jesus, that on it’s own is a fairly spiteful and ignorant thing to be saying. It’s not in the least bit surprising though as I’ve heard it many times, even from people who work in homeless services. Their attitude stinks, I don’t know you so I’m not going to judge you as a person on the basis of one stupid, ill-informed comment.

    I have campaigned for homeless people for years. I have done work with SVP over the years. I am usually on the other side of the argument here on boards when it comes to homeless people but Jasus there's no defending this "mothers" actions. I'm not a crackpot claiming that there is no homeless problem because I've seen it first hand. We have a terrible homeless problem however I have no time for a "mother" like this using her children to try get bumped up on the housing list in such a manner.


    Her actions are the actions of someone in a desperate situation. That she doesn’t fit your narrative of people who are homeless isn’t surprising. I’ve experienced what is thankfully only a handful of people working in homeless services with the same attitude towards the people they claim to want to help, and it always turns out that the help they offer is predicated on people meeting their perceived notions of what people who are homeless should be and should and shouldn’t be doing. It isn’t at all based upon simply helping someone because they need help and support. It’s more about passing judgment and them deciding who is and isn’t worthy of their help.

    Using your children in a fake photo shoot like that, apart from it being unfair on your children as it's exploiting them, it's also VERY unfair on the people on the housing list that she's trying to skip. She is trying to skip the queue by lying & cheating. The right thing to do is wait your turn like most other people.


    “The right thing to do”, when they’re homeless, is to do anything which means the mother and her children in this case aren’t homeless. “Waiting her turn” would mean she and her children would continue to be homeless and continue to be subjected to judgement and stinking attitudes from people who claim they aren’t “worthy” of their help. People who find themselves experiencing homelessness are better advocating for themselves rather than depending on people who appear to be only interested in passing judgement upon them for help. That’s not helping anyone only the person passing judgement, enabling them to stroke their own egos.


  • #120
    LLMMLL
    Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Blazer wrote: »
    I want a political party that comes out and says they will prioritize working people, initiate huge crackdowns on welfare fraud , limit children allowance, expand and support a modern police support and crack down on criminal activity. That party would be elected in a heartbeat I reckon?,

    Nah it wouldn’t.

    These baying mob threads convince people that their awful opinions are quite common. They’re not.


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  • #121
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Trailer parks and charge rent out of their "entitlements".thats the only solution I can think of.


  • #122
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    She and her poor kids need help. Instead of hoping for that, many here are shouting about punishing her.

    The gardaí have released a statement, this was not a set up.




    I read the Gardai statement this morning. Nowhere does it say that it wasn't a scam. All they know is that a mother & children presented themselves to the station.


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Can you prove any of the above? Otherwise it would be safe to assume it's nothing more than gossip.


    Do you really believe that if her landlord illegally put her & her children & her missing partner out on the streets yesterday that she wouldn't have put this in her facebook post along with the photo???



    Do you honestly believe that she wouldn't call the Gardai if her landlord tried to put her out without notice???



    I 100 percent support homeless people but I hate scammers & cheaters


  • #123
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Sleeper12 wrote:
    Do you really believe that if her landlord illegally put her & her children & her missing partner out on the streets yesterday that she wouldn't have put this in her facebook post along with the photo???


    Not what I asked you. You made some claims about the woman which are to make others believe you have detailed knowledge of her situation. I'm just asking you to back it up with fact. So far you have failed to do so.


  • #124
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Yes. She posted photos of her children in a Garda station last night. She is greedy, selfish &  non compassionate to people ahead of her in the queue



    It's easy to fall into the trap of feeling sorry for her. I do myself. I'd love her to be housed but I feel more sorry for the people she is trying to cheat out of their place on the housing list.

    She and her poor kids need help. Instead of hoping for that, many here are shouting about punishing her.

    The gardaí have released a statement, this was not a set up.
    I don't get what it is about the Garda statement of the woman being there with her children makes her a genuine case? Nobody's disputing that what the Gardai said about her being there is untrue, people are questioning her necessity for being there. Your argument is a man made of straw :getlost:


  • #125
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Gatling wrote: »
    Explain the 70 million owned to local authorities for unpaid rents and arrears

    Like I said, it would be 0 if they were free houses.


  • #126
    CeilingFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Can you prove any of the above? Otherwise it would be safe to assume it's nothing more than gossip.

    Even a solicitor intern could prevent eviction if the publicity seeking woman had not been served eviction notice properly


    She had EIGHT MONTHS to locate a new house, but she probably wanted a 5 bed house in a very specific location and felt she had ENTITLEMENT to same.

    With unemployment at under 5%, she or her husband should be working and earning. But the chances are they are lazy unemployed chancers trying every scam possible to lead a taxpayer funded lazy lifestyle.

    Zero and I mean absolutely ZERO pity for stunt players like this.

    Silly season media manipulation - funny how a similar media manipulation story appeared tye the same time last year and the truth was far from the rubbish spouted in the media

    Edit - they're travellers and she wants a four bed house or nothing.


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  • #127
    Turnipman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    Lux23 wrote: »

    What the f**k does it matter if they're wearing school uniforms? Kids shouldn't be sleeping in a Garda station at any time, wearing anything.

    This is what is wrong with public discourse this day, people pick tiny little holes and then refuse to look at the bigger picture which is a homelessness and housing crisis which is now endemic and getting worse. The school uniforms don't matter a jot!!!


    Actually, the "big picture" here is societal tolerance of irresponsible shagging/feckless breeding - because that is the root cause of six unfortunate kids having to sleep in a Garda Station.

    Then again, why should any woman who enjoys a good shag care about the consequences when there are loads of people to throw welfare at her and tell her that she's a victim.

    She isn't the victim here - her fatherless kids are.


  • #128
    stratowide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭stratowide


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    No such thing as a free house and like I've already asked, are you calling the Gardaí liars?

    No the Gardai always tell the truth like all the time.


  • #129
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    aroundthehouse wrote: »
    correct, no such thing as a free house, someone has to pay for it and in this case its the tax payer

    am i calling the gardai liars? how would they know if it was orchestrated or not? of course it was orchestrated, what sort of a woman brings her kids into a cop shop tells them to lie down on the chairs and takes pictures of them and posts them online so she can skip the housing list, disgrace

    Not true, you need to inform yourself on this matter.

    Read the garda statement again. You are wrong.


  • #130
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    CeilingFly wrote:
    but she probably wanted a 5 bed house in a very specific location and felt she had ENTITLEMENT to same.


    More baseless assumption b.s..


  • #131
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I read the Gardai statement this morning. Nowhere does it say that it wasn't a scam. All they know is that a mother & children presented themselves to the station.






    Do you really believe that if her landlord illegally put her & her children & her missing partner out on the streets yesterday that she wouldn't have put this in her facebook post along with the photo???



    Do you honestly believe that she wouldn't call the Gardai if her landlord tried to put her out without notice???



    I 100 percent support homeless people but I hate scammers & cheaters

    Read what they also said.


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  • #132
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    I don't get what it is about the Garda statement of the woman being there with her children makes her a genuine case? Nobody's disputing that what the Gardai said about her being there is untrue, people are questioning her necessity for being there. Your argument is a man made of straw :getlost:

    It proves it wasn't a set up.


  • #133
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This kinds of rubbish does make me sick.

    6 kids, no father to be seen at all. Sleeping in a guarda station in Dublin, when no doubt if a house was offered down the country it wouldn't do because the spunk dumpster (mother) wants to be near family, the same family that are no where to help now.


  • #134
    LLMMLL
    Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    Whatever about the optics, folks, many of us could end up homeless through no cause of our own and some of us have kids.I don't know the full story with that woman and neither do we.

    They're children at the end of the day, and didn't ask to be in that situation.

    I'd be the first to rip the piss out of some of the more far shore notions of the left commentariat these days but there's an awful lot of hard hearted people on this forum these days.

    Indeed.

    The vague “personal responsibility” mantra that the hard hearted on this thread are spouting just leads to more hardship for a bunch of kids.

    When I hear stories like this discussed among non-boards people it’s always focussed on the kids. On boards it’s completely focussed on the mother and father and punishing them.


  • #135
    soups05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭soups05


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    It proves it wasn't a set up.

    how?

    as stated by others she would have had lots of time to get sorted, no need to rock up to the garda station.

    how about you prove it was not a set up?

    the evidence shows she is a scam artist.

    prove she is not instead of blindly supporting her.


  • #136
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    More baseless assumption b.s..

    Is that the new thing

    I don't want to allow a discussion I'll keep saying it's gossip and hearsay

    Do we get to say objection at any time
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  • #137
    LLMMLL
    Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Sleeper12 wrote: »



    I 100 percent support homeless people

    No you dont


  • #138
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Lillyfae wrote: »
    I don't get what it is about the Garda statement of the woman being there with her children makes her a genuine case? Nobody's disputing that what the Gardai said about her being there is untrue, people are questioning her necessity for being there. Your argument is a man made of straw :getlost:

    It proves it wasn't a set up.
    She set it up, doesn't mean that the Gardai were aware that she set it up.


  • #139
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Gatling wrote:
    I don't want to allow a discussion I'll keep saying it's gossip and hearsay


    Discussion I have no problem with but making up stuff and trying to attribute to someone else is ridiculous.


  • #140
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    How is the mother in this case an unfit mother? I would suggest she was rather more unfortunate than unfit, but she’s doing something as opposed to doing nothing or relying solely on social services for assistance. Social services may well be involved, but having worked in the homeless services sector I’m sure you’re no doubt aware of how under-resourced they are that they simply don’t have the resources to investigate every single case that is reported to them, let alone have they the means to do anything about it. That’s exactly why families like the mother and her children in this case are forced to report to Garda stations seeking accommodation for the night. The Gardai in these situations can’t do a whole lot other than contact homeless services on their behalf.





    Jesus, that on it’s own is a fairly spiteful and ignorant thing to be saying. It’s not in the least bit surprising though as I’ve heard it many times, even from people who work in homeless services. Their attitude stinks, I don’t know you so I’m not going to judge you as a person on the basis of one stupid, ill-informed comment.





    Her actions are the actions of someone in a desperate situation. That she doesn’t fit your narrative of people who are homeless isn’t surprising. I’ve experienced what is thankfully only a handful of people working in homeless services with the same attitude towards the people they claim to want to help, and it always turns out that the help they offer is predicated on people meeting their perceived notions of what people who are homeless should be and should and shouldn’t be doing. It isn’t at all based upon simply helping someone because they need help and support. It’s more about passing judgment and them deciding who is and isn’t worthy of their help.





    “The right thing to do”, when they’re homeless, is to do anything which means the mother and her children in this case aren’t homeless. “Waiting her turn” would mean she and her children would continue to be homeless and continue to be subjected to judgement and stinking attitudes from people who claim they aren’t “worthy” of their help. People who find themselves experiencing homelessness are better advocating for themselves rather than depending on people who appear to be only interested in passing judgement upon them for help. That’s not helping anyone only the person passing judgement, enabling them to stroke their own egos.


    I get it she is homeless. I feel sorry for that & I feel sorry for all homeless people. I don't need a lecture on homeless people I seen it first hand..


    I'm not saying homeless people shouldn't be housed & I fight for homeless people. Just because I call out a scam artist doesn't mean I don't support homeless people. In fact I call her out because she is hurting the homeless cause with her nonsense.



    Do you only feel sorry for her or all homeless people??


    Do you not feel sorry for the homeless people ahead of her on the list that she is trying to cheat out of their place??


    I have no time for attention seekers setting up photo shoots in Garda stations, camping outside DCC offices etc trying to STEAL someone elses place on the list. There are rules & everyone needs to play by the rules





    John if you refuse to get it there is nothing I can do about it.


  • #141
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    soups05 wrote: »
    how?

    as stated by others she would have had lots of time to get sorted, no need to rock up to the garda station.

    how about you prove it was not a set up?

    the evidence shows she is a scam artist.

    prove she is not instead of blindly supporting her.

    Where's the evidence that she's a scam artist? I can't prove a negative, you have no proof!


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  • #142
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    No you dont




    I have worked with homeless people & have worked with SVP. I know more about it than you think.


  • #143
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    She set it up, doesn't mean that the Gardai were aware that she set it up.

    Set what up?


  • #144
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Lillyfae wrote: »
    She set it up, doesn't mean that the Gardai were aware that she set it up.

    Set what up?
    An hysterical Facebook photo op


  • #145
    CeilingFly
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    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    More baseless assumption b.s..

    So her quote of "needing 4 bedrooms" is baseless assumption?????

    She gets unemployment benefits, her husband gets unemployment benefits, she gets €840 a month in child benefits, ahe gets hap benefits

    Take take take take take

    And gives fuk all back to society

    ZERO pity for her


  • #146
    LLMMLL
    Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    There are shocking comments about this "mother" because she set the whole thing up. If she presented herself as homeless yesterday morning she would have had beds for her children last night. I'm as certain of that as I am certain that she WILL have beds for her children tonight. She deliberately left it too late yesterday evening when she presented herself as homeless



    Let me explain


    She lived in the same place for 11 years. She didn't wake up yesterday to find the landlord changing the locks. She had notice in writing. She had MONTHS to prepare for this.



    Had she gone to Peter McVerry yesterday morning he would have found her somewhere. DCC would have found her a hostel if she didn't leave it till yesterday evening



    There are some VERY genuine cases on the homeless / housing list & this woman thinks it's ok to exploit her children to try cheat someone following all the rules looking for housing. It's the bottom of the list is where she belongs. What she is trying to do is not fair on the people on the housing list ahead of her

    You have zero idea what happened.

    She could have lined up to stay with a friend and it fell through at the last minute.

    Has there ever been an event in your life where people made assumptions about what happened and were wrong?


  • #147
    DONTMATTER
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    Lillyfae wrote: »
    An hysterical Facebook photo op

    Proof?


  • #148
    soups05
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    the proof is that, as stated, she would have had lots of notice before eviction.

    so why wait till last night? why not make arrangements for housing before having to go to a garda station?

    that is the evidence that she is a scam artist.

    prove she is not by showing how she could end up at a garda station with 6 kids, no hubby. where are her belongings? the kids clothes etc? where are her family and friends, why do they not help?


  • #149
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    soups05 wrote: »
    the proof is that, as stated, she would have had lots of notice before eviction.

    so why wait till last night? why not make arrangements for housing before having to go to a garda station?

    that is the evidence that she is a scam artist.

    prove she is not by showing how she could end up at a garda station with 6 kids, no hubby. where are her belongings? the kids clothes etc? where are her family and friends, why do they not help?

    You're just making assumptions! That's not proof at all.


  • #150
    LLMMLL
    Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Has anyone seen that UK based show "Can't Pay We'll Take It Away"?

    Case on it the other week - mother had not paid the small contribution to rent for some time, nearly #6,000GBP built up. How long would that take to amasss when you're only paying a few quid a week ?

    Contact after contact after contact - visits - County Court actions, nothing - ultimately went for eviction via the High Court bailiffs.

    Her whining was "you've given us an hour to get out". How ridiculous! No one gets to live n someone else's property for free. Or they shouldn't!

    Place was left like a midden afterwards. And yet there are some on here who condemn landlords.

    Right so because there is a tv show that reported on a situation where a landlord got shafted, then people shouldn’t complain about landlords?


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  • #151
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    CeilingFly wrote:
    So her quote of "needing 4 bedrooms" is baseless assumption?????


    Nope, but the part you 'edited out' by way of revision of your comment was baseless.


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