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When will Jesus return?

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    #62
    Pherekydes
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    Your Face wrote: »
    I don't know but he has definitely left Chicago.

    You talking about Peter Cetera?


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    #63
    Your Face
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    Pherekydes wrote: »
    You talking about Peter Cetera?

    Probably not.


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    #64
    ToddyDoody
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    I don't think it works that way.

    We'll probably get the Greek gods back sooner than Jesus.


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    #65
    Car99
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    He's written us off like a bad debt and is focusing on projects that have a future rather than on a species that is a parasite to the beautiful planet it relies on to survive. Can't blame him I'd leave if there was someplace to go.


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    #66
    Capt'n Midnight
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    When I was in school, we were taught that Jesus already walks, or rather sits, among us as a beggar on the roadside.
    Begging ?

    A carpenter ?



    Between queuing for the dole, doing nixers and travelling between sites wouldn't have much time for begging.


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    #67
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I absolutely loved The Brothers Karamazov. In it is one of Dostoevsky's most famous existential writings, which was subsequently published as a separate section entitled The Grand Inquisitor. It covers this question of what happens if/when Jesus returns. A great read:

    Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Grand Inquisitor (1881)

    Here on https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8578
    for those who don't like handing out email details


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    #68
    kend ync olsyn
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    Nosnon wrote: »
    If your imaginary friend was born in the year 0 and allegedly died 33 years later then he's only been gone for 1986 years. Not 2019.

    he was born about 4 BC, so only another 10 years to go... (why he'd wait 2000 years, not 1000 or 10,000 is anyones guess)


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    #69
    Your Face
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    He was mentioned by Pliny, Tacitus and Suetonius in their writings so he likely did exist as an actual person.
    As for the rest of it - that's for other types of people to debate.


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    #70
    odyssey06
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Always found that equally as alarming as it is useful. I'm an agnostic, but you don't need to believe in biblical Jesus to know that he's real in another context, and probably a beggar.

    Zeus liked to appear as a beggar. If you didnt follow hospitality rules when you met this beggar...
    Lets hope Zeus doesnt return.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #71
    pearcider
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    I think the signs of Jesus return and the end of the world are here.

    We can see for example that the world will not survive another world war due to nuclear weapons and it is only a matter of time before the US and Russia duke it out. The world is a lot more unstable now than even during the Cold War. One thing is quite certain, the next world war will be the last. This was not the case up until the 1960s when the vast number of nuclear weapons and the ICBMs to deliver them were created. Armageddon was only a religious concept up until this moment.

    Daniel was the greatest of the prophets and he had a good quote Daniel 12:4 ...'even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'

    This is very applicable to the world today. For all of human history people only travelled a few miles in their lives and the horse was the primary mode of transport. It is only recently where many could run to and fro which means travel great distances easily.

    The most infamous quote from the book of the apocalypse is the following.

    Revelation 13:17 ...'And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.'

    Such a capability was quite impossible for all of human history up until very recently but now we are with the internet and the cashless society that this could be easily accomplished by the beast whatever that is. The very idea of forbidding people to buy and sell throughout the world would’ve been quite inconceivable in ancient times as global communication was very difficult even in advanced societies like the Roman Empire.


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    #72
    Kermit.de.frog
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    The hints are getting stronger..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WL254c8-1Y


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    #73
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Jesus is crying reading this.

    giphy.gif


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    #74
    Wanderer2010
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    I find it impossible to believe, even given how much evil is in the world, that we simply cease to exist for all eternity after death. I firmly believe we are just passing through this world..


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    #75
    mikemac2
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    Montage of Feck wrote: »
    From the book of revolutions I'm sure they mentioned the two girls one cup thing:

    "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:"

    Spot the Protestant


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    #76
    super_furry
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    I reckon he already has, problem is, who's going to listen to a chippy from the middle-east these days?


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    #77
    Kermit.de.frog
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    I find it impossible to believe, even given how much evil is in the world, that we simply cease to exist for all eternity after death. I firmly believe we are just passing through this world..

    The outlook looks kinda grim to be fair

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA


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    #78
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Be more concerned about his predecessor the AC
    - who will loiter about wrecking the place well before JC returns to clear up the mess.

    Slightly seperate topic and a bit woo-woo, one of the most detailed interpertations (through remote viewing) comes via Dolores Cannon & via the ancient news gossip coloumist: Nostradamus.

    The AC will be born in Middle East (Israel), studied History and was involved behind the scense of Irq/Syr.
    His next plan (according to her) will be to introduce a larger regional (likely crypto) currency.

    There is even a sketch of the bad boy, will have a google for it.
    The drawing looks like a mix between the face guy (from the A-Team) and Donald's mate Kushner.


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    #79
    LenWoods
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    What's the prize for getting this question right?


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    #80
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    pearcider wrote: »
    I think the signs of Jesus return and the end of the world are here.

    We can see for example that the world will not survive another world war due to nuclear weapons and it is only a matter of time before the US and Russia duke it out. The world is a lot more unstable now than even during the Cold War. One thing is quite certain, the next world war will be the last. This was not the case up until the 1960s when the vast number of nuclear weapons and the ICBMs to deliver them were created. Armageddon was only a religious concept up until this moment.

    Daniel was the greatest of the prophets and he had a good quote Daniel 12:4 ...'even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'

    This is very applicable to the world today. For all of human history people only travelled a few miles in their lives and the horse was the primary mode of transport. It is only recently where many could run to and fro which means travel great distances easily.

    The most infamous quote from the book of the apocalypse is the following.

    Revelation 13:17 ...'And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.'

    Such a capability was quite impossible for all of human history up until very recently but now we are with the internet and the cashless society that this could be easily accomplished by the beast whatever that is. The very idea of forbidding people to buy and sell throughout the world would’ve been quite inconceivable in ancient times as global communication was very difficult even in advanced societies like the Roman Empire.


    Amazing.


    Can you come up with any other obscure, unclear connections between a mythic event and an ancient prophecy. Do drugs help?


    'To and Fro' absolutely meaning vast distances and don't even know what the one about buying on the internet is supposed to mean.



    So, we can add this to the thousands of people for many hundreds of years that have stood on street corners claiming, 'the end is nigh'.


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    #81
    Zaph
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    According to Archbishop James Ussher, the earth was created around 6pm on 22/10/4004 BC. So if it took Jesus 4,004 years to put in an appearance, and assuming we accept he was last seen when he was 33, that means it's been 1,986 years since he was last around. And with an appearance every 4,004 years it means that we've got to wait until 4037, or another 2,018 years for the second coming. Hopefully Leeds will have made it back into the Premier League by then.


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    #82
    lmimmfn
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    3 fiddy


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    #83
    The Nal
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    Considering its highly highly unlikely that he existed in the first place, a return would be even more unlikely.


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    #84
    pearcider
    Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    The Nal wrote: »
    Considering its highly highly unlikely that he existed in the first place, a return would be even more unlikely.

    The historicity of Jesus is effectively certain. So not sure where you’re coming from there.


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    #85
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,522 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    pearcider wrote: »
    The historicity of Jesus is effectively certain.

    No it isn't. Not as we know it anyway.

    There may have been someone called Jesus that existed around that time but there's no evidence whatsoever that hes the Jesus of the new testament or the son of God.

    Its very very very improbable.

    We do know however that the New Testament is total fiction.


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    #86
    Ipso
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    pearcider wrote: »
    I think the signs of Jesus return and the end of the world are here.

    We can see for example that the world will not survive another world war due to nuclear weapons and it is only a matter of time before the US and Russia duke it out. The world is a lot more unstable now than even during the Cold War. One thing is quite certain, the next world war will be the last. This was not the case up until the 1960s when the vast number of nuclear weapons and the ICBMs to deliver them were created. Armageddon was only a religious concept up until this moment.

    Daniel was the greatest of the prophets and he had a good quote Daniel 12:4 ...'even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'

    This is very applicable to the world today. For all of human history people only travelled a few miles in their lives and the horse was the primary mode of transport. It is only recently where many could run to and fro which means travel great distances easily.

    The most infamous quote from the book of the apocalypse is the following.

    Revelation 13:17 ...'And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.'

    Such a capability was quite impossible for all of human history up until very recently but now we are with the internet and the cashless society that this could be easily accomplished by the beast whatever that is. The very idea of forbidding people to buy and sell throughout the world would’ve been quite inconceivable in ancient times as global communication was very difficult even in advanced societies like the Roman Empire.

    Sure. Everyone in the last 2,000 years were wrong but let’s all listen to the left behind brigade.


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    #87
    [Deleted User]
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    tito brycen wrote: »
    eternal salvation


    Or a €50 voucher to Brown Thomas. It's not fully decided yet, but worth it either way.


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    #88
    Berserker
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Considering its highly highly unlikely that he existed in the first place, a return would be even more unlikely.

    Watched a program on the History channel or similar a while back, where Archaeologists researched this and whilst they don't believe that Nazareth existed, they believe that Jesus did exist. They cited the New Testament, Jewish passages and Roman passages as proof. Even the Rabbis who didn't like him, mentioned him in their passages and they claimed that he was a magician/con-artist, who was leading people astray.


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    #89
    ToddyDoody
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    What about those books conversations with God? Surely the answer is in there somewhere.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversations_with_God


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    #90
    BDI
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    They wouldn’t call it the history channel if it wasn’t absolutely true. That’s for damn sure.


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    #91
    Phil.x
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    I hope so.


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