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25-08-2018, 09:48   #1471
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It wouldn't be your front garden then. I thought all atheists would be all over this lad as he believes in a lot of the stuff they believe, evolution being one example.
Plenty of terrible people also believe in gravity and the thermal properties of CO2. Should we give them a free pass on crimes generally or just cover ups and the like?
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So, again, no room for the hows and why?

I'll break it down for you , what how's and why's are you wondering about when it comes to child rape? It certainly seems to me you are an apologist for child rape and abuse.
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Never have supported SF but what has politics got to do with the visit of Frank?
Oh, yes you have, your posts on the politics forum is a give away my friend.
You also defended a SF MLA making those comments about Kingsmill.
So stop being a hypocrite.
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Oh, yes you have, your posts on the politics forum is a give away my friend. You also defended a SF MLA making those comments about Kingsmill. So stop being a hypocrite.
I can honestly say I haven't. I see the game you are playing though. By all means address my comments but I suggest you stop playing the man. It's unbecoming.
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25-08-2018, 09:53   #1476
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I'll break it down for you , what how's and why's are you wondering about when it comes to child rape? It certainly seems to me you are an apologist for child rape and abuse.
I guess the world would seem very simple to you given the level of critical thinking your posts have displayed and exhibited.

You do know that the Irish state outsourced both education and social provisions to the church? How about that factoid, or is that too complicated for you to process and reflect on?
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You do know that the Irish state outsourced both education and social provisions to the church? How about that factoid, or is that too complicated for you to process and reflect on?

Did the state also give carte blanche for the rape and abuse of children. Is that also a factoid?
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I guess the world would seem very simple to you given the level of critical thinking your posts have displayed and exhibited.

You do know that the Irish state outsourced both education and social provisions to the church? How about that factoid, or is that too complicated for you to process and reflect on?
Whatabout whataboutism?
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It's funny watching some here twist themselves into knots trying to justify their support for an organisation that engaged in such horrific abuse of children and also women. Sterling work guys every bit as vile as the organisation you support.
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I think what's annoying me most about this visit is the fact that it's costing us €32 million. Scandalous.
 More Fool on you.
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Did the state also give carte blanche for the rape and abuse of children. Is that also a factoid?
No.

Did you know in 2013, 23 children in the care of the State and HSE died?
http://www.thejournal.ie/children-hs...75733-Nov2013/

12 children in the care of the HSE died in 2012.
http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/Publi...rpannrpt11.pdf

Did the state give carte blanche for this to happen?
No.

Has anyone been held responsible for the deaths of 35 children between the year 2012-2013?
Nope!

Why did this occur? How was it allowed?
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No.

Did you know in 2013, 23 children in the care of the State and HSE died?
http://www.thejournal.ie/children-hs...75733-Nov2013/

12 children in the care of the HSE died in 2012.
http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/Publi...rpannrpt11.pdf

Did the state give carte blanche for this to happen?
No.

Has anyone been held responsible for the deaths of 35 children between the year 2012-2013?
Nope!

Why did this occur? How was it allowed?
Please let us help you with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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What are the actual issues here?

I don't think you are here to engage in an actual conversation here, you just want to spout half-truths and lies in order to feel good about yourself.
They're right there in my two posts, but you'll just keep talking around things to Bury posts that don't suit.

If the church cared about the poor should it not liquidate much of it's wealth to help them?

Or is its own state with hoarded gold and trinkets necessary?

What lies and half truths?
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Did you know in 2013, 23 children in the care of the State and HSE died?

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12 children in the care of the HSE died in 2012.

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Did the state give carte blanche for this to happen? No.

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Has anyone been held responsible for the deaths of 35 children between the year 2012-2013? Nope!

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Why did this occur? How was it allowed?

Any of the above crimes?
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