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So who's going to see the Pope?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭✭ J. Smith


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Your opinion, which means .......guess?

    A view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭ realdanbreen


    Anyway despite the best efforts of the saddos (the ones who always have someone or something to blame for their shortfalls) trying to hijack the tickets it looks like being a sell out!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,602 Hitman3000


    Anyway despite the best efforts of the saddos (the ones who always have someone or something to blame for their shortfalls) trying to hijack the tickets it looks like being a sell out!

    How is a free event a sell out, you also missed the point of people requesting multiple tickets. How do you think an event 'sells out' ? If you want to buy free tickets I can sell you some.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 224 ✭✭ donaldtramp


    The vast majority of people going to this type of stuff would be elderly. It's become less of a tend for younger people to be interested in this.

    And yes, it's a free event, so it's shocking that everybody is so negative about this kind of thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,602 Hitman3000


    J. Smith wrote:
    A view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge?


    I know what opinion means, I was just asking what value do you think your opinion carries.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ optogirl


    The vast majority of people going to this type of stuff would be elderly. It's become less of a tend for younger people to be interested in this.

    And yes, it's a free event, so it's shocking that everybody is so negative about this kind of thing.

    I don't find it shocking at all that people are negative about the catholic church. They have done a huge amount of harm to a huge amount of people.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 224 ✭✭ donaldtramp


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I know what opinion means, I was just asking what value do you think your opinion carries.

    Well obviously he thinks his opinion matters if he decides to voice it.
    Pretty dumb question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,602 Hitman3000


    Well obviously he thinks his opinion matters if he decides to voice it. Pretty dumb question.

    It matters to him, of no value to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


    optogirl wrote: »
    I don't find it shocking at all that people are negative about the catholic church. They have done a huge amount of harm to a huge amount of people.

    The problem with ideologues like you is you can't distinguish between the Church and its members. Fr Kevin on Church Street gets up at 5 am. every morning to feed the homeless and destitute. I suppose you have it in for him as well do you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭ Fighting Tao


    The problem with ideologues like you is you can't distinguish between the Church and its members. Fr Kevin on Church Street gets up at 5 am. every morning to feed the homeless and destitute. I suppose you have it in for him as well do you?

    Nah. Just the head honcho who enables the crimes by doing nothing to stop them and moving offerebders to different locations.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


    optogirl wrote: »
    I don't find it shocking at all that people are negative about the catholic church. They have done a huge amount of harm to a huge amount of people.

    And I am sorry but this is such simplistic nonsense. The Church has done harm but it has also done good. What about the people who live alone but great solace from going to mass every week and meeting people. The Priests in Drimnagh go out most nights and visit the sick and elderly. I suppose they're evil incarnate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


    Nah. Just the head honcho who enables the crimes by doing nothing to stop them and moving offerebders to different locations.

    Was I talking to you?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 224 ✭✭ donaldtramp


    optogirl wrote: »
    I don't find it shocking at all that people are negative about the catholic church. They have done a huge amount of harm to a huge amount of people.

    No they haven't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭ Fighting Tao


    Was I talking to you?

    It doesn’t matter who you were talking to. If you don’t like others replying then you should probably send PMs. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭ kunst nugget


    The problem with ideologues like you is you can't distinguish between the Church and its members. Fr Kevin on Church Street gets up at 5 am. every morning to feed the homeless and destitute. I suppose you have it in for him as well do you?

    Or Mary McAleese, a devout Catholic who has advocated on behalf of those not represented by the Church for acceptance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


    No they haven't.

    It's the power of fashionable opinion unfortunately. They'll move on their next target soon enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,484 ✭✭✭✭ DEFTLEFTHAND


    optogirl wrote: »
    I don't find it shocking at all that people are negative about the catholic church. They have done a huge amount of harm to a huge amount of people.

    Why does the good they do never get talked about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


    Or Mary McAleese, a devout Catholic who has advocated on behalf of those not represented by the Church for acceptance.

    She's a raving attention seeker who wants the Church to abandon all its principles in favour of fashionable liberal orthodoxy. Even then, I doubt she goes around abusing priests, calling them all pedophiles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ optogirl


    The problem with ideologues like you is you can't distinguish between the Church and its members. Fr Kevin on Church Street gets up at 5 am. every morning to feed the homeless and destitute. I suppose you have it in for him as well do you?

    I don't 'have it in' for anyone. Fr. Kevin's work is wonderful & vital and I admire him greatly - he has contributed greatly to the housing conversation & for me is a very welcome voice. However, it's easier for him than the average Joe to do that work because he never has to worry about having a roof over his head or a meal in his belly. He will always be looked after. I simply said I can understand people being angry with the church. It is difficult to separate the individuals (and boy are there a lot) within the church that did such harm and engaged in criminal activity and the organisation that allowed them to continue to do so by ignoring them, moving them onto new victims and even rewarding them with well paid higher positions. The institution itself is rotten to the core so yes, it is galling for a great many people to have the head of such an organisation be flattered & bowed to in our state.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ optogirl


    No they haven't.

    Come off it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,602 Hitman3000


    Why does the good they do never get talked about.


    Probaly because the abuse of children and moving on of perpetrators was so heinous/evil it overshadows the good?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


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    Let's see how consistent you are. Would you favour of closing all care homes in the State? There has been scandal after scandal involving staff. What about Chelsea football club? Last year a former coach was jailed for abusing young players. Many of the top brass knew about it and didn't do anything. Should Chelsea fans stop going to Stamford Bridge? Should the club disband?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Probaly because the abuse of children and moving on of perpetrators was so heinous/evil it overshadows the good?

    And do you think the parishioners in Churches support the perpetrators?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,602 Hitman3000


    What about Chelsea football club? Last year a former coach was jailed for abusing young players. Many of the top brass knew about it and didn't do anything. Should Chelsea fans stop going to Stamford Bridge? Should the club disband?


    "Whataboutery " expert level unlocked.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 224 ✭✭ donaldtramp


    optogirl wrote: »
    Come off it

    You're blaming the Church, a private organization, for something which is the State's responsibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 DickSwiveller Returns


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    Answer my question, please.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭ realdanbreen


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    How is a free event a sell out, you also missed the point of people requesting multiple tickets. How do you think an event 'sells out' ? If you want to buy free tickets I can sell you some.


    You could substitute full house for sell out if you felt up to it! Although judging by your post I'd say you would probably need a lie down afterwards.


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