So who's going to see the Pope?

Galwayguy35

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You lost all credibility with this post, and the 2 idiots who thanked it are just as bad.

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You lost all credibility with this post, and the 2 idiots who thanked it are just as bad.

You obviously believe what you have said but if I bet if you were a member of any other club which had the history of institutionalised paedophilia, sex abuse and other crimes which the catholic church has and you objected to same you'd have resigned your membership post haste.

Hitman3000

Galwayguy35 wrote:

You lost all credibility with this post, and the 2 idiots who thanked it are just as bad.

Why are people idiots? Because they disagree with you? They have a lack

Hitman3000

Galwayguy35 wrote:

You lost all credibility with this post, and the 2 idiots who thanked it are just as bad.

Why has the person lost credibility, is the comment untrue? Not sure if I thanked the post or not , generally though I have found the only ones who get insulting and personal are those in favour of the visit.

Galwayguy35

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

You obviously believe what you have said but if I bet if you were a member of any other club which had the history of institutionalised paedophilia, sex abuse and other crimes which the catholic church has and you objected to same you'd have resigned your membership post haste.

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Why has the person lost credibility, is the comment untrue? Not sure if I thanked the post or not , generally though I have found the only ones who get insulting and personal are those in favour of the visit.

She said ordinary catholics support the cover up and moving around of paedo priests by simply being members of the church.

Now if the 2 of you agree with this post then that's up to you but I don't know one catholic who supports paedos.

Everyone agrees what happened was wrong and has sympathy with the victims.

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Everyone agrees what happened was wrong and has sympathy with the victims.

Yet they still remain members of the club and contribute financially to it on a weekly basis.

Sympathy is useless.

Action is what matters.

Have you (or any other "ordinary members") called out your leadership for the way they have and continue to protect the institution at the cost of the abused?

How many ordinary members stood tall with this man when your church paid SEVEN barristers to discredit him?

Galwayguy35

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Yet they still remain members of the club and contribute financially to it on a weekly basis.

And?

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

And?

Hadn't finished my post, go back and read and watch it then come back with your smart ar$e "and"?

Imagine your son being sodomised on an institutional basis and the membership staying quiet?

Hitman3000

Galwayguy35 wrote:

Now if the 2 of you agree with this post then that's up to you but I don't know one catholic who supports paedos.

You don't know one, sound but every bishop that moved them around every priest and nun/lay person that kept their mouths shut supported them.

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

She said ordinary catholics support the cover up and moving around of paedo priests by simply being members of the church.

Now if the 2 of you agree with this post then that's up to you but I don't know one catholic who supports paedos.

Everyone agrees what happened was wrong and has sympathy with the victims.

1. Deliberate denial.

2. Staying quiet despite knowing what was going on.

3. Not challenging your leadership.

1 - 3 = passive support.

Galwayguy35

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You don't know one, sound but every bishop that moved them around every priest and nun/lay person that kept their mouths shut supported them.

But she wasn't talking about the clergy, she specifically said ordinary catholics in 2018 were paedo supporters

Hotblack Desiato

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You lost all credibility with this post, and the 2 idiots who thanked it are just as bad.

Really? Your church collection is supporting a comfortable retirement for convicted paedophiles.

Hitman3000

Galwayguy35 wrote:

But she wasn't talking about the clergy, she specifically said ordinary catholics in 2018 were paedo supporters

The fact that ordinary Catholics are still members of the church then they have given their support to the abuse that happened and subsequent cover ups.

Galwayguy35

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Hadn't finished my post, go back and read and watch it then come back with your smart ar$e "and"?

Imagine your son being sodomised on an institutional basis and the membership staying quiet?

Don't you get smart with me either.

I'm well aware with that clip because I was watching it on the night he spoke on Q and A.

again I don't know any ordinary member of the church who agreed with what happened to him and others which is why people are pushing for change from within.

TheValeyard

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The fact that ordinary Catholics are still members of the church then they have given their support to the abuse that happened and subsequent cover ups.

So you're calling Catholics in Ireland 2018, pedophile enablers?

Galwayguy35

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The fact that ordinary Catholics are still members of the church then they have given their support to the abuse that happened and subsequent cover ups.

It's pointless talking to you, I'm done.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The fact that ordinary Catholics are still members of the church then they have given their support to the abuse that happened and subsequent cover ups.

What do you mean by 'still members."

You don't leave. Anyone who is Confirmed into the CC is a member for life.

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Don't you get smart with me either.

Ooohhh, your little threat is sooooo intimidating. What are you going to do, sodomise me????

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I'm well aware with that clip because I was watching it on the night he spike on Q and A.

again I don't know any ordinary member of the church who agreed with what happened to him and others which is why people are pushing for change from within.

That clip was from 2009 but the abuse took place 40 years before that.

What change has been achieved "from within" and can you give me an example of where any other organisation with a rap sheet as long as the catholic church (the nazis or the mob are all I can think of as comparatives) reformed and became positive contributors to society?

Galwayguy35

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Ooohhh, your little threat is sooooo intimidating. What are you going to do, sodomise me????

Seriously, if you wanted to discuss the issue that's one thing but when I see this it's just pointless.

Hitman3000

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote:

So you're calling Catholics in Ireland 2018, pedophile enablers?

The ones still supporting the church, if the hat fits and all that.

Hitman3000

Galwayguy35 wrote:

It's pointless talking to you, I'm done.

Bye bye.

Hitman3000

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

You don't leave. Anyone who is Confirmed into the CC is a member for life.

I'll put it this way those that still turn up on days of obligation and fill the baskets. Hope that clears it up for you.

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Seriously, if you wanted to discuss the issue that's one thing but when I see this it's just pointless.

So you don't like me standing up to your little threat. Not something you're used to I guess and a convenient way for you to avoid addressing the substantive issue.

You crack on financially and emotionally contributing to an organisation which has the largest record of paedophilia and sexual abuse in modern times.

No doubt that is truly the way to the promised land

Galwayguy35

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

So you don't like me standing up to your little threat. Not something you're used to I guess and a convenient way for you to avoid addressing the substantive issue.

You crack on financially and emotionally contributing to an organisation which has the largest record of paedophilia and sexual abuse in modern times.

No doubt that is truly the way to the promised land

Threat?

Who do you think I am, Liam Neeson.

You called me a smart arse, I told you not to get smart with me either so if you think that's a threat then you must be a very sensitive little flower.

do you want me to give you a hug.

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Threat?

Who do you think I am, Liam Neeson.

You called me a smart arse, I told you not to get smart with me either so if you think that's a threat then you must be a very sensitive little flower.

do you want me to give you a hug.

Well at least you're asking!!! That in itself is progress :-)

Galwayguy35

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

So you don't like me standing up to your little threat. Not something you're used to I guess and a convenient way for you to avoid addressing the substantive issue.

You crack on financially and emotionally contributing to an organisation which has the largest record of paedophilia and sexual abuse in modern times.

No doubt that is truly the way to the promised land

I couldn't give a fook what you think

blazard

i like francis and no i wont be going to see him

have a telly for that.

54and56

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I couldn't give a fook what you think

Nor do most of your club members and that is EXACTLY the problem.

Thanks for clarifying.

QED

Galwayguy35

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Nor do most of your club members and that is EXACTLY the problem.

Thanks for clarifying.

QED

No problem jack, happy to help.

Anytime you want that hug give us a shout xoxo

Hotblack Desiato

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I couldn't give a fook what you think

You're reading and responding so clearly you do.

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

So you're calling Catholics in Ireland 2018, pedophile enablers?

If they're contributing financially then that's exactly what they are, yes.