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Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    From MT's daily forecast, suggesting mild weather to the end of February, it would appear that any chance of a winter has gone for Dublin this year, unless it arrives in March!

    The trend is for a very mild March with mild south-westerlies dominating. I think most of us have lost interest in winter some time ago. Hopefully better luck next year.

    This winter will finish milder than average, but maybe not as excessively mild as last winter, however this winter has been completely absent of any proper cold weather, northerly's, toppler's, easterly's, ice days, freezing fog. No lying snow for the second winter in a row for many of us other than a transitional dusting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭esposito


    Gonzo wrote: »


    Flying to warmer climates or a break in very warm or hot temperatures is also very good to do, I really think everyone needs a break from the Atlantic muck at least a few weeks per year (2 weeks abroad plus a few weeks break from it here in Ireland if we are lucky).
    !

    Yes Gonzo, very important for people who get depressed by the Irish climate to get away to sunnier climates for a week or two in summer.

    And for the cold/snow lovers try to get even a long weekend in a much colder climate during the winter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭SnowyMuckish


    I think I read somewhere that it was the mildest January on record? I don’t know if that bodes well for cold in future. I’m far from an expert hope I’m wrong!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    sideswipe wrote: »
    It's obvious you hate almost every aspect of our climate/weather. I understand that for the most part........ it can be pretty desperate. Alas we can't change it, we can only change our attitude towards it.

    Honest question: Have you ever considered moving somewhere else?
    It just doesn't seem to suit you here and couldn't be good for your mental health long term.

    Winter and summer I spend as much time as I can gone somewhere nice. Looking forward to retirement!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Atlantic muck or not,this is day 5 of snow on the hills west of Arklow
    You could actually ski or taboggan down the drifts in the fields no problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I think I read somewhere that it was the mildest January on record? I don’t know if that bodes well for cold in future. I’m far from an expert hope I’m wrong!

    Yes, and 20c hottest ever temp recorded in the Antarctic the other day. We're f*cked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Atlantic muck or not,this is day 5 of snow on the hills west of Arklow
    You could actually ski or taboggan down the drifts in the fields no problem

    Arklow, the land of blazing hot summers and winter sports, according to Mortelaro!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Arklow, the land of blazing hot summers and winter sports, according to Mortelaro!

    Wicklow actually did quite well out of it to be fair.
    I was in Wicklow this week doing personal stuff.
    Each morning I had to scrape snow from the ground avarage was about 2 cm all bar yesterday morning.
    Even the lower hills had snow on them yesterday


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Yes, and 20c hottest ever temp recorded in the Antarctic the other day. We're f*cked.

    But it is also the hight of summer for Antarctica southern hemisphere summer,still a unbelievable temperature, but should be used with caution comparing to our winter northern hemisphere winter months


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Yes, and 20c hottest ever temp recorded in the Antarctic the other day. We're f*cked.

    parts of Ireland struggled to even reach 20C last summer with low twenties the best for most of us. Hopefully we will get a shot of hot air this summer, we were the only country in western Europe to miss out on the heat last summer. Even the Scottish highlands got to the high twenties last summer on a few occassions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Roll on a cool, wet summer! :p

    I always find April/May is the most enjoyable time of year, lengthening days, the first real signs of warmth, everything coming back to life and there's still that naive hope that summer won't be a depressing grey washout :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    I always find April/May is the most enjoyable time of year, lengthening days, the first real signs of warmth, everything coming back to life and there's still that naive hope that summer won't be a depressing grey washout :p


    15-17 degrees, dry is what i hope for.
    When you go to a summer county festival that you can sit on your arse on the grass without getting wet.
    Without running like a herd to a tent waiting for the nest shower to pass.
    Just a jumper as a pillow lying down resting from the kids saying I wanna, I wanna. ahhhh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Gonzo wrote: »
    for some places most definitely. The only places that have really seen proper snow this winter have been in the south-east of Europe and Turkey. Norway has seen a good bit of snow but most of that is high ground.
    I wonder if they are the opposite. "Lovely no cold winter this year".
    Whereas we Irish just dream of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    I have really enjoyed the mild weather this winter. I hate snow so no interest in it.

    It means that you can comfortable be out in park for hours without been too cold. Disappointed though that last few weekends have been a write off with windy stormy wet weather so not enjoyable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    While the temperatures in Antarctica are very worrying it is a huge place + the warmest temperature was recorded at the most northern tip of arctic+ not the whole continent. Seymour island is right beside south America so not in heart of Antarctica

    It is also he height of their summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Looking at the AO forecasts and it looks as if we could be seeing another wave of very high values towards the end of next week if the models are onto something:

    EU5Nxiq.png

    New Moon



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Incredibly, despite all the rain,snow drifts in ditches on high ground west of Arklow are still there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    Biblical in Cork city


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Well finally managed to get out to park this morning.

    It was very windy in malahide playground especially in areas on higher ground.

    It was great to get out + good excuse to treat ourselves to tea + cake afterwards!

    In last 15min its started lashing but all wrapped up at home now so nice to look out at it. How much more rain+ wind can we take! Honestly never remember a time when so much wind + rain constantly for what seems like weeks on end, its mad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Torrinetial hailstones here + thunder at the moment.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Just in the middle of a thunder hail storm in D13 right now. Mad stuff altogether.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    just back after a day out in horrible conditions, plenty of rain, sleet and wet snow mixed in some very beefy showers and gusty winds. Everywhere saturated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    And no end end to it in sight more rain more wind forecast for the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Just had a look at stats for Dublin Airport + we are already above the average rainfall for Feb + only half way through the month.

    Apart from a relatively 'dry' month in Jan rainfall levels are unreal since August.

    A very wet autumn/winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    appledrop wrote: »
    Just had a look at stats for Dublin Airport + we are already above the average rainfall fir Feb + only half way through the month.

    Apart from a relatively 'dry' month in Jan rainfall levels are unreal since August.

    A very wet autumn/winter.

    As a matter of fact, February's rainfall for the country as a whole, based on an 11-station grid, is already above average for Ireland and it is the wettest February since 2016 currently.

    https://twitter.com/SryanBruen/status/1229035242662526977

    Sick of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    And no end end to it in sight more rain more wind forecast for the week.

    I'm not that displeased. I wouldn't like to see high pressure in February and none in the summer like 1998.

    It's the time for rain, November to February.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Yep we are all sick of it.

    Next week is midterm for the kids+ terrible to see how much rain is forecast for the whole week.

    It just seems like it's never ending.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭esposito


    Like the rest of you, I am getting really sick of the relentless westerlies and heavy rain that have been coming in on a conveyor belt since last October.

    We need a pattern change fast but I don’t think it will happen. The Atlantic just won’t quiten down. Sad state of affairs. A truly horrific winter yet again. And the really sad thing is most of Central and Eastern Europe had a relatively mild winter with a distinct lack of snow which just compounds the misery of winter 2019/2020.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    esposito wrote: »
    Like the rest of you, I am getting really sick of the relentless westerlies and heavy rain that have been coming in on a conveyor belt since last October.

    We need a pattern change fast but I don’t think it will happen. The Atlantic just won’t quiten down. Sad state of affairs. A truly horrific winter yet again. And the really sad thing is most of Central and Eastern Europe had a relatively mild winter with a distinct lack of snow which just compounds the misery of winter 2019/2020.

    I'm sure it was a welcome change in Eastern Europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    esposito wrote: »
    Like the rest of you, I am getting really sick of the relentless westerlies and heavy rain that have been coming in on a conveyor belt since last October.

    A truly horrific winter yet again.

    Truly horrific is an exaggeration. There was no horror this winter. Thankfully no fatalities in weather related incidents. No storm or weather event out of the ordinary. It's a typical Irish winter.

    February 1990 was a a wet and windy month that would leave this month in the hapenny place.

    I'm finding the weather fora full of hyperbole this winter. Dominated by posters and posts on successive Sundays that this is 'the worst wind I've ever witnessed'.

    It's like the forum has become a mirror of the Daily Mail or James Madden has taken over.

    I don't mean you in particular Esposito, not by any means.

    P.s. And as regards snow, many parts of the country saw some last week and in January, much more than during many winters. Particularly in the 1990s.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    latest GFS see's plenty of wintry conditions on Thursday. Of course the GFS over does the snow charts, but if this was to come off, would bring a very wintry afternoon in the greater Dublin area.

    96-574UK.GIF?16-12

    Temperatures look a bit high for snow, but they do go lower later.

    96-580UK.GIF?16-12


    In reality Thursday will probably a wet, cold day with some flakes mixed in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    I always find April/May is the most enjoyable time of year, lengthening days, the first real signs of warmth, everything coming back to life and there's still that naive hope that summer won't be a depressing grey washout :p

    May is one of my favourite months as well but April? I find that month to be deadest and most drab of all. Rare to see any sort fauna springing into life on a noticeable level until early May, at least in these parts.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    appledrop wrote: »
    Yep we are all sick of it.

    Next week is midterm for the kids+ terrible to see how much rain is forecast for the whole week.

    It just seems like it's never ending.

    I embrace it in the hope that the following summer will make up for it as the Atlantic will hopefully have burn't itself out by May


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,956 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    May is one of my favourite months as well but April? I find that month to be deadest and most drab of all. Rare to see any sort fauna springing into life on a noticeable level until early May, at least in these parts.

    April is good for the hail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    I know the rain is pretty incessant but it's often the way in February, when fields are waterlogged.

    There was an old saying from the nineteenth century. 'February fill dyke, black or white'. Basically February will bring a lot of moisture, be it rain or snow. Unfortunately it's usually rain! Especially the last 30 years or so.

    I remember the waterlogged fields of February and March 1995. But they gave way to the great summer of 1995.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    I know Feb can be wet but so was Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov+ Dec!

    I drive on country roads + this year for first time in 15 years of driving all along the grass verges there are dug out ditches I'm presumming to either let the water out of fields or alternatively drain the road from flooding. I used to see the odd one but this year they are everywhere. That's not normal.

    The only month below average rainfall was Jan. Now I'd take it all if it meant we got a lovely summer but unfortunately in Ireland that's not how it works.


  • Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Daz_


    esposito wrote: »
    Like the rest of you, I am getting really sick of the relentless westerlies and heavy rain that have been coming in on a conveyor belt since last October.

    We need a pattern change fast but I don’t think it will happen. The Atlantic just won’t quiten down. Sad state of affairs. A truly horrific winter yet again. And the really sad thing is most of Central and Eastern Europe had a relatively mild winter with a distinct lack of snow which just compounds the misery of winter 2019/2020.

    Very dramatic ! Sad state of affairs !? And why are you so worried about Eastern Europe and their lack of snow ? Maybe they are happy about it ! Snow is just hardship for most people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    appledrop wrote: »
    I know Feb can be wet but so was Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov+ Dec!

    I drive on country roads + this year for first time in 15 years of driving all along the grass verges there are dug out ditches I'm presumming to either let the water out of fields or alternatively drain the road from flooding. I used to see the odd one but this year they are everywhere. That's not normal.

    The only month below average rainfall was Jan. Now I'd take it all if it meant we got a lovely summer but unfortunately in Ireland that's not how it works.

    It is normal enough. Often stretches of 6 mts above average rainfall. No rainfall records have been broken anywhere.

    Watercourses get blocked with leaves, clay stones, bits of branches etc every year. Some farmers, home owners and councils are better than others at keeping drains clear. There is absolutely nothing unusual about the rains from when the weather broke on 21 September this year. We've had a few dry spells in January too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Listening to the forecast on radio 1 this morning it seems the theme for the week is rain,rain and more rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    The rain for Sligo is 105mm so far this month

    Our weather broke in early August and we had a dry week around Christmas but I was sick

    Will be March at least now before next one.

    While not record breaking as Ireland is SO wet it is above average rainfall which is high in this part of the world

    In Sligo any month with over 100mm is very wet
    So 105mm by day 17


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Listening to the forecast on radio 1 this morning it seems the theme for the week is rain,rain and more rain

    the trend for the rest of the month is not good if you want dry weather. Plenty of rain over the next 2 to 3 weeks, the regular deluges might be making a return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I can cope with rain but the bloody wind hasn't let up in ages and looks like it's here for the foreseeable future


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    I'd prefer the wind and rain to snow and ice anyway so good news although I hope to see a bit of sunshine and warmth in march


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Side effect of windy weather when it prevents sleep? I knit when I cannot sleep etc. Currently baby hats for work in India with abandoned little ones. So all the time Dennis was raging... Just gathered in the hats... on my 17th in the three days of Dennis..Thank you, Dennis!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    US2 wrote: »
    I'd prefer the wind and rain to snow and ice anyway so good news although I hope to see a bit of sunshine and warmth in march

    I'd love some ice and snow. Or just some cold crisp sunny days instead of endless grey muck :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Thought the world was ending; the loudest hardest hail shower ever! OUCH! Even the cat was scared... still at it …. Hope no one is out there.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Emme wrote: »
    I'd love some ice and snow. Or just some cold crisp sunny days instead of endless grey muck :mad:

    best chance of that will now be next winter unfortunately. March can still deliver such conditions but it's usually very short lived.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Day 7 and the snow drifts from last monday are still in the ditches on high ground west of Arklow despite the rain


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A few big angry blustery showers going over, some a bit wintry but mostly rain, 8mm since midnight.

    bitter cold at 5C in a brisk WNW wind.


    Hsil/rain shower with mammatus like clouds Kerry 15.00 today

    embv0be.jpg?1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The gusting when the showers arrive is quite something.


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