The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

06-01-2021 2:36pm

jay0109 wrote: »

Ryan went out before xmas to 2 restaurants but felt uncomfortable because of the way the people were set up in them. I'm shocked he ventured out at all

yes did find that at odds to his mantra

some would call him a hypocrite but fair dues for admitting it I suppose

Deeper Blue · 07-01-2021 5:02am

jay0109 wrote: »

Ryan went out before xmas to 2 restaurants but felt uncomfortable because of the way the people were set up in them. I'm shocked he ventured out at all

He actually put up a picture on his Instagram on one of the nights - see below

jaykay74 · 07-01-2021 9:51am

I know they had Stanage on yesterday but would be great to have him on again today.

Still Ill · 07-01-2021 12:10pm

Actually had to double check halfway through the Kinahan pod that it wasn't a repost I was listening to.

dmn22 · 07-01-2021 3:54pm

jaykay74 wrote: »

I know they had Stanage on yesterday but would be great to have him on again today.

New Stanage pod up just now

D.Q · 07-01-2021 7:12pm

dmn22 wrote: »

New Stanage pod up just now

Contains the longest overrun question in recorded human history

transcribed below in the name of science.

“Is this would you say, the end of something, has, was yesterday for Americans a moment of such shocking shame, that this, eh, populist movement that he has led is going to find it hard going, OR, is it the beginning of something, that the polarisation of America is such, that eh even eh the Biden Harris administration with support from the Congress and the senate eh, facing the terrible task of repairing the American economy, of dealing with the covid pandemic and the 350000 people that have lost their lives, and more to come, it'll get worse, as Joe Biden says, before it gets better, eh, is this country amenable to government at all?“

Utopia Parkway · 08-01-2021 1:12am

glasso wrote: »

Stockholm man was back on - surely no more mileage can be dragged out of the Sweden situation after this one?

Eamo slightly modified his intro slightly by stating that it is women who have the Tegnell tattoo's

Afair he wasn't gender-specific about the tattoo recipients heretofore

Eamo absolutely loves regurgitating the Tegnell tattoo story again and again and again. That and "on July 2, Ireland had 3 new cases and 3 deaths". He's battered both of those particular nuggets to death over the past 6 months. I wonder does he realise how much he repeats himself sometimes? In fairness he is in his mid 70's.

Tork · 08-01-2021 1:57am

I'm just waiting for him to wheel out Chris Johns's quote about the media hacks and after dinner speakers (or whatever it was). If you can live with Eamo's repetition, it's a good podcast to dip in and out of. I bet he's tickled pink that he's had Donie O'Sullivan on his podcast

kowloonkev · 08-01-2021 4:04am

glasso wrote: »

that's the thing imo - Ryan never offered a solution for how it could be achieved here on this island that shares a border with the north - just went on about it that it should be pursued as a strategy - which offers nothing really except some sort of repetitive point.

he also never suggested / predicted that the high levels of the current time would come about in this timeframe.

i think you seem to be obsessed with taking sides and finding peoples' agendas and politics and all of that.

tomas Ryan is on the show just to give his best scientific opinion. he is not in the position to find political solutions. i agree with you that zero Covid on the island seems to be a no go, but not because of the border, and moreso the irresponsible attitude and behaviour of the general population.

08-01-2021 9:21pm

kowloonkev wrote: »

i think you seem to be obsessed with taking sides and finding peoples' agendas and politics and all of that.

tomas Ryan is on the show just to give his best scientific opinion. he is not in the position to find political solutions. i agree with you that zero Covid on the island seems to be a no go, but not because of the border, and moreso the irresponsible attitude and behaviour of the general population.

not sure what you mean by that exactly - I haven't asked anyone what their agenda is although sometimes it's clear

certainly the lack of adherence is a massive factor, particularly at this stage - Christmas behaviour evidenced that even if wasn't level 5 - too many people just couldn't give a feck - hence massive case numbers

Massive Christmas fail for the "it will be grand" brigade - contact tracing discovered that plenty had 20 to 30 close contacts

no help from the nordies or dem foreigners was required.

08-01-2021 9:29pm

Still going on even

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40203584.html

FRI, 08 JAN, 2021 - 17:38
PÁDRAIG HOARE
A birthday party in Cork had to be broken up by gardaí on Thursday night at the height of the Covid-19 pandemic, with more than 100 mostly maskless people not adhering to social distance guidelines ordered to disperse.

Gardaí confirmed that they arrived to a venue in Blarney around 11pm, which they described as a shed, where a “large gathering in excess of 100 people was taking place”.

08-01-2021 11:09pm

kowloonkev wrote: »

i think you seem to be obsessed with taking sides and finding peoples' agendas and politics and all of that.

tomas Ryan is on the show just to give his best scientific opinion. he is not in the position to find political solutions. i agree with you that zero Covid on the island seems to be a no go, but not because of the border, and moreso the irresponsible attitude and behaviour of the general population.

Definitely not. It was the governments decision to open up in the summer. Compliance was much higher then. I have no doubt in my mind that with the correct (apparently impossible) policy, we would be living relatively normal lives right now.

mcgucc22 · 11-01-2021 10:42pm

D.Q wrote: »

Contains the longest overrun question in recorded human history

transcribed below in the name of science.

“Is this would you say, the end of something, has, was yesterday for Americans a moment of such shocking shame, that this, eh, populist movement that he has led is going to find it hard going, OR, is it the beginning of something, that the polarisation of America is such, that eh even eh the Biden Harris administration with support from the Congress and the senate eh, facing the terrible task of repairing the American economy, of dealing with the covid pandemic and the 350000 people that have lost their lives, and more to come, it'll get worse, as Joe Biden says, before it gets better, eh, is this country amenable to government at all?“

I like Dunphy and I like the podcast, but the way he goes about asking questions is atrocious.

D.Q · 12-01-2021 5:58pm

mcgucc22 wrote: »

I like Dunphy and I like the podcast, but way he goes about asking questions is atrocious.

yeah same! mostly listen to the Stanage/ Giles episodes, no interest in tallant/covid.

That question was ridiculous though, I actually zoned out a bit and when I zoned back in I couldn't believe he was still talking in circles.

Tell me how · 12-01-2021 6:30pm

mcgucc22 wrote: »

I like Dunphy and I like the podcast, but way he goes about asking questions is atrocious.

Definitely doesn't come across well when you see it written out like that but I think the intonation he uses as he speaks conveys the complexity and range of context associated with the subject. Good interviewees can pick up on this 'unsaid' element and refer to it in their answer.

It's one thing I like about Eamon's style in that he conveys that there are many different layers to topics and that simple black and white positions aren't necessarily appropriate.

garbanzo · 12-01-2021 7:36pm

D.Q wrote: »

Contains the longest overrun question in recorded human history

transcribed below in the name of science.

“Is this would you say, the end of something, has, was yesterday for Americans a moment of such shocking shame, that this, eh, populist movement that he has led is going to find it hard going, OR, is it the beginning of something, that the polarisation of America is such, that eh even eh the Biden Harris administration with support from the Congress and the senate eh, facing the terrible task of repairing the American economy, of dealing with the covid pandemic and the 350000 people that have lost their lives, and more to come, it'll get worse, as Joe Biden says, before it gets better, eh, is this country amenable to government at all?“

...a good question not a great question ! 😃

sportsfan90 · 18-01-2021 6:17pm

Eamon will hit Episode #1,000 this week.

That’s some going for a man of 75 years, even if I do find myself skipping 80% of episodes lately. Does anyone know when he started the podcast?

Banana Republic 1 · 18-01-2021 6:28pm

sportsfan90 wrote: »

Eamon will hit Episode #1,000 this week.

That’s some going for a man of 75 years, even if I do find myself skipping 80% of episodes lately. Does anyone know when he started the podcast?

He is getting from free weetabix from Tesco

Tell me how · 18-01-2021 6:37pm

sportsfan90 wrote: »

Eamon will hit Episode #1,000 this week.

That’s some going for a man of 75 years, even if I do find myself skipping 80% of episodes lately. Does anyone know when he started the podcast?

Nov 2016 according to this.

THE FIRST EPISODE of Eamon Dunphy’s new football podcast ‘The Stand’ is set to be released on Friday (25 November).

Interestingly marketed as a 'Football' podcast at that time. Given that was the same month Trump won the election in the US, I'd say the football focus went out the window pretty quick.

steve_r · 18-01-2021 7:28pm

The recent episode with Diarmuid Ferriter on the mother and baby homes was very good. Ferriter obviously knows his onions and is able to put things in context, including the fact that people were aware of this conditions and spoke out against how the people were being treated.

Dunphy made some good comments as well about the type of society that allows this to happen, and how the leaders of the day doubtless knew what was going on

Still Ill · 18-01-2021 7:29pm

It's a shame he doesn't have Liam or Didi on anymore. Himself and John just go over the same ground every show.

Beechwoodspark · 18-01-2021 7:32pm

Still Ill wrote: »

It's a shame he doesn't have Liam or Didi on anymore. Himself and John just go over the same ground every show.

Was just thinking that myself the other day. Been ages since chippy has been on

amlinopta · 18-01-2021 7:35pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Was just thinking that myself the other day. Been ages since chippy has been on

Was there a falling out there or what happened? Hope Liam is ok, I think I heard him on RTE when Maradona died

Still Ill · 18-01-2021 7:45pm

amlinopta wrote: »

Was there a falling out there or what happened? Hope Liam is ok, I think I heard him on RTE when Maradona died

Himself and John had a small bit of a falling out when John inexplicably picked Wan Bissaka over TAA in his team of the season. But Eamon was winding John up too and they still seem to be on good terms.

Really enjoy when Eamon mentions that he's on the phone to John when they're watching matches. Something very wholesome about it. :pac:

Ash.J.Williams · 18-01-2021 7:47pm

In fairness to Eamon the show was built up from nothing, ‘‘twas very baron at the start

Tell me how · 18-01-2021 8:04pm

steve_r wrote: »

The recent episode with Diarmuid Ferriter on the mother and baby homes was very good. Ferriter obviously knows his onions and is able to put things in context, including the fact that people were aware of this conditions and spoke out against how the people were being treated.

Dunphy made some good comments as well about the type of society that allows this to happen, and how the leaders of the day doubtless knew what was going on

That's what I like about Eamon he knows things are rarely black and white and has alluded to his own internal conflict on various topics from time to time.

Tell me how · 18-01-2021 8:05pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Himself and John had a small bit of a falling out when John inexplicably picked Wan Bissaka over TAA in his team of the season. But Eamon was winding John up too and they still seem to be on good terms.

Really enjoy when Eamon mentions that he's on the phone to John when they're watching matches. Something very wholesome about it. :pac:

Agree. Can picture them picking the phone up at half time or at the end and doing their analysis. It's a nice image.

TCDStudent1 · 18-01-2021 8:29pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Himself and John had a small bit of a falling out when John inexplicably picked Wan Bissaka over TAA in his team of the season. But Eamon was winding John up too and they still seem to be on good terms.

Really enjoy when Eamon mentions that he's on the phone to John when they're watching matches. Something very wholesome about it. :pac:

That interaction was very funny at the time. Dunphy was loving it. They have been on together since that though so I doubt that is the reason we havent seen Brady lately.

Deeper Blue · 18-01-2021 11:35pm

If they were to bring Brady back you'd think the Maradona episode was the perfect time, considering he played against him. I don't think he was on it though? Hope all is well with him

Still Ill · 18-01-2021 11:37pm

Does he still work with Arsenal? Yeah, hope he's ok healthwise.

Always enjoyed his analysis

Tell me how · 18-01-2021 11:43pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Does he still work with Arsenal? Yeah, hope he's ok healthwise.

Always enjoyed his analysis

He left Arsenal in 2013. I did see him mentioned on Twitter for another podcast a few weeks back so maybe if he is doing that on a regular basis it might explain him not being on with Eamon. Can't remember which one it was, think maybe an Irish times one but not sure and iirc from the ad, it was just as a one off guest.

padd b1975 · 19-01-2021 9:16am

Still Ill wrote: »

It's a shame he doesn't have Liam or Didi on anymore. Himself and John just go over the same ground every show.

And John makes the same exact points on his Thursday Newstalk slot.

Needs to freshen things up badly.

Deeper Blue · 20-01-2021 5:02pm

*Awaits episode 1000*

*Sees that it's Tomas Ryan*

*Deletes instantly*

Utopia Parkway · 20-01-2021 5:25pm

El Sueño wrote: »

*Awaits episode 1000*

*Sees that it's Tomas Ryan*

*Deletes instantly*

I think Eamo gets a wee bit excited during Tomas' appearances. All you can hear is Dunphy in the background growling "yes, Yes, YES!" as Tomas makes his points. While repeatedly mentioning how "rigorous" he is.

dmn22 · 20-01-2021 7:38pm

I don’t get the criticism of Tomas Ryan on here. He’s been consistently correct. The podcast today was very good in my opinion. I was actually surprised by how worked up he got in the interview.

I watched Matt Cooper’s show on Monday night and they had minister Ossian Smyth on. He consistently avoided answering questions on why we hadn’t a mandatory quarantine on people coming into the country 10 months into the pandemic and tried to sidestep the question by accusing the woman who asked the question of being racist against Brazilians. I was actually fuming watching it. He was incredibly rude and never answered the question.

This government’s inaction is putting lives at risk and prolonging the amount of time we have to put up with these restrictions.

nialler1978 · 20-01-2021 9:44pm

dmn22 wrote: »

I don’t get the criticism of Tomas Ryan on here..

Because right now it's all about hating teachers and what a mess they've of those who have additional needs.

He is rightly worked up because of the piss that was taken out of him pre xmas opening up where he suggested xmas be delayed for a month, which was daft but rational in an academics head.

He clearly despises Holohan. Entertaining podcast, an emotional wreck by the sounds of it (not Dunphy).

Billy Ocean · 21-01-2021 2:58am

dmn22 wrote: »

I don’t get the criticism of Tomas Ryan on here. He’s been consistently correct. The podcast today was very good in my opinion. I was actually surprised by how worked up he got in the interview.

I watched Matt Cooper’s show on Monday night and they had minister Ossian Smyth on. He consistently avoided answering questions on why we hadn’t a mandatory quarantine on people coming into the country 10 months into the pandemic and tried to sidestep the question by accusing the woman who asked the question of being racist against Brazilians. I was actually fuming watching it. He was incredibly rude and never answered the question.

This government’s inaction is putting lives at risk and prolonging the amount of time we have to put up with these restrictions.

Totally agree always seems very measured to me, Smyth came across terribly on Matt Cooper.

I'm far from a public health expert but the laissez fare approach to quarantining has been a long time obvious problem.

Blanco100 · 23-01-2021 1:34am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I think Eamo gets a wee bit excited during Tomas' appearances. All you can hear is Dunphy in the background growling "yes, Yes, YES!" as Tomas makes his points. While repeatedly mentioning how "rigorous" he is.

Laughing my head off at this. Dunphy loves kissing a guests hole by telling them they are one of the countries most rigorous contributors

26-01-2021 10:09am

Someone other than Tomas Ryan gave some insight on the recent episode :pac:

DeanAustin · 27-01-2021 1:33pm

Anyone listen to Monday's podcast with Giles on Liverpool? Giles went from the sublime to awful.

He made some great points about how the Liverpool full backs could have prevented United's goals on Sunday. Then he launched into how he did his homework on why a couple of new signings a season kept things fresh and that's what Liverpool should have done in the summer.

They spoke as if Liverpool had signed no-one. Jota and Thiago came in (2 signings).

Giles went on to say how great Fergie was by signing Keane after they first won the league (1 player) in 1993. Then he reeled off a list of players that Fergie brought in in subsequent seasons that kept it fresh which made no sense because he mentioned, amongst others, Irwin and Schmeichel who were signed in 1991.

It was dire stuff with Giles constantly harking back to Fergie, Revie and Shankley. You can't compare those eras, particularly the latter two, to today because football clubs, managers and the sums of money involved are a world away.

Giles is still great at analysing a game in front of him but he really is lost when talking about how clubs work or talking facts. He doesn't do it deliberately but he seems to get the facts to fit around his opinion rather than forming an opinion based on fact. Awful stuff because Dunphy does little to challenge him.

John Hutton · 27-01-2021 2:08pm

DeanAustin wrote: »

Anyone listen to Monday's podcast with Giles on Liverpool? Giles went from the sublime to awful.

He made some great points about how the Liverpool full backs could have prevented United's goals on Sunday. Then he launched into how he did his homework on why a couple of new signings a season kept things fresh and that's what Liverpool should have done in the summer.

They spoke as if Liverpool had signed no-one. Jota and Thiago came in (2 signings).

Giles went on to say how great Fergie was by signing Keane after they first won the league (1 player) in 1993. Then he reeled off a list of players that Fergie brought in in subsequent seasons that kept it fresh which made no sense because he mentioned, amongst others, Irwin and Schmeichel who were signed in 1991.

It was dire stuff with Giles constantly harking back to Fergie, Revie and Shankley. You can't compare those eras, particularly the latter two, to today because football clubs, managers and the sums of money involved are a world away.

Giles is still great at analysing a game in front of him but he really is lost when talking about how clubs work or talking facts. He doesn't do it deliberately but he seems to get the facts to fit around his opinion rather than forming an opinion based on fact. Awful stuff because Dunphy does little to challenge him.

Did you miss the bit about how great Jota was and refreshed things and its a shame he is injured?

The general point that liverpools recruitment was lacking over the summer stands, they clearly needed another CB.

DeanAustin · 27-01-2021 5:56pm

John Hutton wrote: »

Did you miss the bit about how great Jota was and refreshed things and its a shame he is injured?

The general point that liverpools recruitment was lacking over the summer stands, they clearly needed another CB.

No heard that. But the insinuation was that Liverpool hadn't refreshed when they had refreshed as much as title winning teams in the past by adding two quality players. Giles further trampled on his own point by saying Jota had looked good and looked hungry. It's pure bad luck that Thiago and Jota have been injured for most of their time at Liverpool.

Liverpool have also been very unlucky at CB. Their 3 first choice CBs have been long term injured and the young lad they've brought through hasn't been up to it. Their mistake wasn't in the summer for me, they've just been unlucky. Their mistake has been in January in not signing a CB when they badly need one.

Did you smash it · 27-01-2021 6:49pm

DeanAustin wrote: »

No heard that. But the insinuation was that Liverpool hadn't refreshed when they had refreshed as much as title winning teams in the past by adding two quality players. Giles further trampled on his own point by saying Jota had looked good and looked hungry. It's pure bad luck that Thiago and Jota have been injured for most of their time at Liverpool.

Liverpool have also been very unlucky at CB. Their 3 first choice CBs have been long term injured and the young lad they've brought through hasn't been up to it. Their mistake wasn't in the summer for me, they've just been unlucky. Their mistake has been in January in not signing a CB when they badly need one.

They sold lovren and never replaced him. 3 centre halves and one of them is a sick note. FSG have gone from looking savvy to looking tight-fisted.

DeanAustin · 27-01-2021 7:16pm

Did you smash it wrote: »

They sold lovren and never replaced him. 3 centre halves and one of them is a sick note. FSG have gone from looking savvy to looking tight-fisted.

It's kinda going off topic but to have 3CBs long term injured at the same time is beyond unlucky. Bringing through youngsters to replace a lad that was error prone at best (Lovren) wasn't an unreasonable position to take at the start of the season especially with Fabinho being pretty good at CB.

But given how things are turning out now and with FSG seemingly unwilling to buy or loan a CB - they are starting to look a bit tight fisted especially if the rumours of Klopp being forced to play a strong team in Norway for £2.5m are to be believed.

generalgerry · 27-01-2021 8:04pm

I like Picture House so I took down the episode done recently with Dave Browne. Thought the starting monologue was quite interesting.

"One of the things we haven't done is talk about the effect this ten month ordeal has had on people who are working in various businesses, or who are workers who have threatened to lose their job"

Working class hero Eamo, and it takes him ten months to start thinking of the common man. Maybe if Tesco had been shut down he would have put up some opposition to the lockdown, instead of being a cheerleader. Nice that he has finally woken up to the effect that it is having on private industry.

Tell me how · 27-01-2021 8:10pm

generalgerry wrote: »

I like Picture House so I took down the episode done recently with Dave Browne. Thought the starting monologue was quite interesting.

"One of the things we haven't done is talk about the effect this ten month ordeal has had on people who are working in various businesses, or who are workers who have threatened to lose their job"

Working class hero Eamo, and it takes him ten months to start thinking of the common man. Maybe if Tesco had been shut down he would have put up some opposition to the lockdown, instead of being a cheerleader. Nice that he has finally woken up to the effect that it is having on private industry.

I think you're being a bit harsh on him there. The experiences of people in all industries has been alluded to across various shows, I think him suggesting they were focusing on it specifically does not mean that it had never received any recognition or commentary before now.

kowloonkev · 28-01-2021 7:43am

The Taiwan guest seemed a bit all over the place. He said Taiwan felt safer during the Trump administration (which left Dunphy gutted), before adding that Taiwan could be an inspiration in the fight against the rise of the far right.

Tyrone212 · 28-01-2021 7:49am

kowloonkev wrote: »

The Taiwan guest seemed a bit all over the place. He said Taiwan felt safer during the Trump administration (which left Dunphy gutted), before adding that Taiwan could be an inspiration in the fight against the rise of the far right.

Surprised he didn't mention the abandoned kurds at that point.

applehunter · 28-01-2021 7:28pm

Chris John’s won’t be around to see the Frankenstein’s monster he had created.

Scumbag.

Deeper Blue · 28-01-2021 11:15pm

DeanAustin wrote: »

Giles went on to say how great Fergie was by signing Keane after they first won the league (1 player) in 1993. Then he reeled off a list of players that Fergie brought in in subsequent seasons that kept it fresh which made no sense because he mentioned, amongst others, Irwin and Schmeichel who were signed in 1991.

I noticed this too, fairly poor considering he'd actually looked it up! Still love listening to John all the same

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