The horrific death of Ana Kriegel

Captain Obvious · 18-05-2018 7:05pm #1

The current reports are indicating this poor young girl was subject to an awful death. I don't want to engage in speculation about the events. I hope justice is done and her family and friends find some peace.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mobile-phone-and-clothing-of-murdered-schoolgirl-ana-14-yield-vital-clues-to-identifying-killer-36921646.html

SEPT 23 1989 · 18-05-2018 7:11pm

I think if we all just thanked the first post with no speculation just to keep the thread open to show our solidarity with the family at this terrible time

suicide_circus · 18-05-2018 7:11pm

Ah here there's still an investigation going on

eviltwin · 18-05-2018 7:14pm

Poor kid, a horrible end to a young life. I hope whoever is responsible is caught quickly. I can't imagine what her parents must be going through.

Pac1Man · 18-05-2018 7:16pm

At least give us a link to something?

wakka12 · 18-05-2018 7:17pm

Absolutely shockingly tragic story, I cant believe this happened in Dublin

RIP Anna, she deserved a much longer and happier life.

rawn · 18-05-2018 7:18pm

Pac1Man wrote: »

At least give us a link to something?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-ponder-sexual-motive-for-ana-kriegel-s-murder-1.3500370

uck51js9zml2yt · 18-05-2018 7:21pm

Tragic event for the family.
If reports are anything to go by it was an horrific end.

My wife favours bringing in the electric chair for those involved.

OldMrBrennan83 · 18-05-2018 7:24pm

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uck51js9zml2yt · 18-05-2018 7:26pm

Patww79 wrote: »

The media seem to be revelling in telling us that it was violent and an awful end. Even RTÉ's initial report read like some redtop rag at at a very early stage. A bit of decorum and thought for the family wouldn't go amiss from them all.

Or it may just be the nudge someone needs to tell what they know after hearing what actually happened.

jamesbere · 18-05-2018 7:28pm

Patww79 wrote: »

The media seem to be revelling in telling us that it was violent and an awful end. Even RTÉ's initial report read like some redtop rag at at a very early stage. A bit of decorum and thought for the family wouldn't go amiss from them all.

I taught the same, a bit of respect for the family should of been shown I think

Peatys · 18-05-2018 7:32pm

The pain is over for the poor girl, and only starting for her family, classmates, friends and all who knew her.

I just hope the people who did this are over 18 so they can be tried properly.

Beechwoodspark · 18-05-2018 7:33pm

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Does it matter ?

She was a young girl who apparently suffered a horrendous death , no matter where she came from .

Seemingly adopted and lived all her life here

10000maniacs · 18-05-2018 7:35pm

Heres Johnny wrote: »

You're a knob but to answer your question she was Russian by birth adopted by a couple who were Irish and French.
Lives in a community I grew up in. Don't remember another murder in the community, people are shocked.
It's as bad as it gets. I know plenty of details as do many in the area now but let the powers that be do the right thing.

Too petrified to go seeking the details of what happened to her. Very sad. There are some sick fcukers out there.

Conservatory · 18-05-2018 7:36pm

jamesbere wrote: »

I taught the same, a bit of respect for the family should of been shown I think

It could be to show friends of hers how badly she was treated. This will hopefully make sure they aren’t trying to cover for each other or anyone or get themselves into trouble by lying to Garda to cover the horrible actions of some piece of ****.

It’s easy to sit at home and question every bodies actions and I’d hate to think the newsmen are running around excited about this. The fact rte are behaving this way I’d imagine is because the guards told them this way would be helpful to enqueries.

Death by electric chair was mentioned earlier and my first thought was that’s be too good for them. I really think some crimes should have a death by bench saw punishment but that’s a discussion for another time. I hope the family can pull through this. I don’t know if I could.

_Dara_ · 18-05-2018 8:02pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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The media can be really distasteful when it comes to gory details. I remember after the Buncrana drowning, both RTÉ and TV3 pressing shellshocked bystanders to give them more and more details.

Jellybaby1 · 18-05-2018 8:10pm

I can't believe this has happened to a 14 year old girl. We passed by there when the guards were there and we knew something had happened. So shocking and heartbreaking. When you think about it, 14 years old is just two years out of primary school. A child! Her poor family, I weep for what they are going through.

kaymin · 18-05-2018 8:20pm

According to the Independent:

Investigators are hoping to speak to two boys, aged in their early teens, in the coming days.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mobile-phone-and-clothing-of-murdered-schoolgirl-ana-14-yield-vital-clues-to-identifying-killer-36921646.html

Roger Hassenforder · 18-05-2018 8:30pm

Parents worst nightmare.
Poor girl.

The fcukers who did it should get the gibbet for the rest of their days.

Galwayguy35 · 18-05-2018 8:34pm

RIP

Whoever did this should be locked up for the rest of their natural life.

TheValeyard · 18-05-2018 8:34pm

Every parents worst nightmare.

RIP to her, life cut well too short.

Hopefully whoever is responsible will be held accountable.

18-05-2018 8:38pm

The poor child and God love her parents

It´s unimaginable. May she rest in peace.

McMurphy · 18-05-2018 8:40pm

Was paying for coffee in a filling station there this afternoon and a few of the papers headlines caught my eye, obviously to do with this threads subject.

A few went into a little bit too much detail if you ask me, namely the Star and the Mail.

I never picked either of them up, but the headline on the front pages lay there for all to see.

Thought it was a bit insensitive, too much specifics, and lacked a bit of respect to the deceased and the family.

From what I've seen, she was a beautiful young lady.

R.I.P

Are Am Eye · 18-05-2018 8:45pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

should get the gibbet for the rest of their days.

Delightfully ironic mangling of logic and english there RH. :pac:

I don't think it is overstating it to say that this is one of the most serious crimes in the history of the state. For a child to be killed with such savagery and violence.

I'm glad that they've identified suspects. Very dangerous people and they need to be taken out of circulation permanently.

sonic85 · 18-05-2018 8:47pm

Whoever is responsible needs to be taken to a remote area and given two in the chest and one in the head. Pure and utter scum

Strazdas · 18-05-2018 8:52pm

Terrible thing to happen to that poor girl. God knows what possessed those individuals into thinking killing her in this fashion would be a good idea.

Child murder is extremely rare in the Republic thankfully, I remember reading before that we have one of the lowest rates in Europe.

Snake Plisken · 18-05-2018 9:19pm

RIP the poor girl my daughters around the same age and this is truly every parents worst nightmare. Apparantly kids around her own age did this No doubt they will be caught tried as juveniles and out what within 10 years? It reminds me a bit to the Jamie Bulger case.
I would have no problem ending the murdering scums life they don’t deserve to live after what they did to this poor girl. Sorry for strong comments but this crime has really affected me, the sheer cruelty.

Flippyfloppy · 18-05-2018 9:31pm

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Delightfully ironic mangling of logic and english there RH. :pac:

I don't think it is overstating it to say that this is one of the most serious crimes in the history of the state. For a child to be killed with such savagery and violence.

I'm glad that they've identified suspects. Very dangerous people and they need to be taken out of circulation permanently.

RIP , poor girl. A first year student. Seriously!?!

Have they really got suspects in mind at this point?

Berserker · 18-05-2018 9:33pm

Astrid Sweet Gong wrote: »

My wife favours bringing in the electric chair for those involved.

I always been a supporter of the death penalty and believe that the culprits in this case deserve that fate.

RHJ · 18-05-2018 9:33pm

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Flippyfloppy · 18-05-2018 9:34pm

Berserker wrote: »

I always been a supporter of the death penalty and believe that the culprits in this case deserve that fate.

I’m not a huge supporter usually, but in this case, why the **** not? Why should this/these scum have a right to life after what they’ve done?

meathstevie · 18-05-2018 9:38pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

The current reports are indicating this poor young girl was subject to an awful death. I don't want to engage in speculation about the events. I hope justice is done and her family and friends find some peace.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mobile-phone-and-clothing-of-murdered-schoolgirl-ana-14-yield-vital-clues-to-identifying-killer-36921646.html

Don't keep your illusionary hopes of seeing justice being done up too high. The poor girl is dead, her family and close friend's lives destroyed and the guilty parties will plead to a manslaughter charge followed by a couple of years of PlayStation in Oberstown, Wheatfield or Mountjoy.

iamwhoiam · 18-05-2018 9:40pm

RHJ wrote: »

You're right it works both ways I'm just tired of some of the snowflakes who get offended at everything.

Its not a case of being offended . Its a case of it being an open investigation .

goat2 · 18-05-2018 9:44pm

Seen it on the nine o clock news, how sad, a beautiful looking girl, very badly beaten to death, and sexually assaulted, God Help her family, so sorry for them, her last moments on this earth must have been hell, hope they catch those responsible, and hope they rot in prison

AllForIt · 18-05-2018 9:45pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I think it should be closed to

As I said in a post not too long ago on another thread, I don't know why ppl wish to get emotionally involved in these kinds of cases. A poster replied to me "EMPATHY". I just don't get it. Yes it's a horribly sad and brutal case. No doubt about that and anyone who would just shrug their solders abut this would rightly be considered a bit cold to say the least. The only thing we as onlookers, who have nothing to do with case whatsoever whether we have our own daughters or not, is that we make sure that the law is given all the resources possible to hunt down and prosecute these animals. That should be the extent of our involvement and having forum discussions about it where there is no particular issue or argument to be had all seems to be a waste of emotional energy to me.

thebull85 · 18-05-2018 9:45pm

i know i shouldnt speculate but these events are such a rarity in our country thankfully, whats the chances the murdering b*stard is not Irish.

tretorn · 18-05-2018 9:47pm

The parents of whoever did this crime have now had their lives destroyed too.

You just never know what the day will bring.

AMKC · 18-05-2018 9:56pm

Absolutely terrible what happened to this poor girl. She suffered a horrendous death. Its sound to me like this could have been a case of jealousy because she was quite tall and more mature than her age suggested as well as very pretty looking.
I hope the person or persons who killed her are caught and thrown into a cold dark cell to rot.

Heres Johnny · 18-05-2018 9:57pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

RHJ wrote: »

Please explain how?

Jesus fucking Christ

Ordinarily I'd agree with you but the most disgusting and dangerous scumbag I know has great parents. Brothers and sisters all lovely people but there's 1 delinquent out of 4. Disowned completely now he's an adult but those poor parents tried everything with him. As did his 2 brothers.

Lackey · 18-05-2018 10:05pm

Hands up
who left the asylum door open again?

Beautiful tribute paid to the young girl by her dance school

Suckit · 18-05-2018 10:06pm

Parents can only do so much. Most parents i would imagine would not believe that their child is capable of something that heinous. (99.999999% would probably be correct).
I hope they catch whoever did it and if it was kids, they should get tried like adults.
I hope they never see daylight again.

I have not seen the details that appeared in the papers or news, but I have seen enough to know that this was scum.

Three hours outside, at the start of the summer, and the parents knew straight away to go the Gardaí.
I cannot begin to imagine how distraught they must be right now. I would imagine it is all a haze and does not seem in any way real.
It is a very cruel and very sad ending, and nothing anybody says or does will help relieve their pain.

jimmycrackcorm · 18-05-2018 10:06pm

Patww79 wrote:

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This country has a long history of covering up and glossing over terrible issues. It doesn't do any good to hide the brutality.

pjohnson · 18-05-2018 10:17pm

RHJ wrote: »

I'm glad this thread still open and people feel free to express their opinions on this subject.

If you find it so offensive why don't you leave?

You keep mentioning people shouldn't be offended. Who made you the "offence police". If the thread upsets you why dont you just depart it instead of telling others too?

All you've done is whinge over "snowflakes" being offended, ironically appearing extremely offended yourself.

JP Liz V1 · 18-05-2018 10:17pm

RIP Anastasia Kriegel

Hearing about this case is like something from Law and Order SVU

ChikiChiki · 18-05-2018 10:20pm

Grew up in that area. Hung around Catherines park as a teen through the long summer evenings.The most carefree time of my life. To me the Leixlip/Catherines area felt like the safest place in the world, still does to an extent having travelled the globe since.

This has chilled me to the bone. I cannot believe this happened to poor Ana and the opportunity to live her life, fulfil her dreams and ambitions has been taken away by some utterly wretched scumbag.

Its very sad. RIP Ana, I hope your family get the justice they deserve at least.

Stephen15 · 18-05-2018 10:34pm

John_Rambo wrote: »

If your child is murdered the nationality of the person that murdered him or her is irrelevant. We've had young foreign women raped and murdered by locals here, the result is the same.

Devastation and lifelong grief.

If someone is Irish they should and proven guilty be hanged if they forgein they should be deported. Either way the population within Ireland are safe from such an individual.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 18-05-2018 10:39pm

If, as reported, it’s teenagers justice won’t be served. A few years maximum.

The Talking Bread · 18-05-2018 10:40pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

If, as reported, it’s teenagers justice won’t be served. A few years maximum.

Adult or teenager, justice will never be served when an innocent kid is murdered.

SEPT 23 1989 · 18-05-2018 10:43pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

If, as reported, it’s teenagers justice won’t be served. A few years maximum.

If it was my daughter they would be executed on the court steps

Stephen15 · 18-05-2018 10:43pm

John_Rambo wrote: »

Place of birth regardless, the murderer should be met with the full force of the justice system and certainly not be let away with mere deportation. That's just ridiculously lenient, birth place should not excuse anyone from justice. Irish prison for crime in Ireland, no matter where you're from.

Prisons are too keep citizens in country safe from dangerous individuals. Automatic death penalty for the most heinous crimes and deportation also achieve that.

Ken. · 18-05-2018 10:44pm

Mod-Ok, A certain poster, their posts and all quotes of said posts have been nuked with extreme prejudice.

I will personally permaban from AH anyone else even with a hint of trolling or taking the piss out of this very sad case.

Thread locked for 30 minutes so anyone and everyone can read this. Ignorance will not be a mitigating factor.

Now I'm going to read the rest of the thread. I'm tired and cranky so bans will be coming.

The horrific death of Ana Kriegel

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