€25k invested in prize bonds

dxhound2005 · 06-03-2021 11:43am

tuisginideach wrote: »

It's certainly a record - on my history of PB wins!

Actually, the pattern is amazing - 8 X €50 over 6 consecutive weeks on this 'glitch'; July 2017 - 6 X €50 over 3 consecutive weeks (1, 3, 2); May 2016 - 5 X €50 over 4 consecutive weeks.

I would be interested in knowing how close together, or how far apart your winning numbers are. Would there be a subsection of numbers representing under €25K which won €100 or €150?

tuisginideach · 07-03-2021 12:18am

Interesting exercise!
In the July 2017 glitch, I won 6 X €50 in 3 consecutive weeks - four of the winning bonds came from the same batch and there was a difference of only 2943 between those 4 bonds.

22 Aug 2014 I won 2 X €50 from that same batch with a difference of 334 between them.

7 Sept 2018 - I won 2 X €50 from a different batch with a difference of 557 between them.

Thargor · 07-03-2021 12:23am

Andrew Flexing wrote: »

New record @Hibernicis?

Ive had a 100k house deposit win nothing since last September!

pbwinner · 07-03-2021 12:55am

Winnings on 6th March 2021: €0
Last win 18th December 2020: €100
Total winnings on €25k from Feb 2011 to date: €3150
2011: €75 x 4 = €300
2012: €75 x 6 = €450
2013: €50 x 12 = €600
2014: €50 x 9 = €450
2015: €50 x 5 = €250
2016: €50 x 5 = €250
2017: €50 x 4 = €200
2018: €50 x 2 = €100
2019: €50 x 6 = €300
2020: €50 x 5 = €250
2021: €0

John arse · 07-03-2021 11:39am

Thargor wrote: »

Ive had a 100k house deposit win nothing since last September!

yeah,i've 66k-nothing since july,no "luck" i guess.

John arse · 07-03-2021 12:40pm

Thargor wrote: »

Ive had a 100k house deposit win nothing since last September!

so a word of caution if you're thinking of banging in 50 or a 100k,it isn't a bed of roses in prize bond land,huge dry spells.i'd be massively frustrated if i wasn't used to it!

scheister · 08-03-2021 9:31am

John arse wrote: »

so a word of caution if you're thinking of banging in 50 or a 100k,it isn't a bed of roses in prize bond land,huge dry spells.i'd be massively frustrated if i wasn't used to it!

The issue with law of averages it aint an exact sciene. You could have a long dry spell then win twice in two week.

I have €12,500 since Jan 20 and another batch of €12,500 from July 20 and no wins yet but i am sure it is coming any day now

John arse · 08-03-2021 12:16pm

scheister wrote: »

The issue with law of averages it aint an exact sciene. You could have a long dry spell then win twice in two week.

I have €12,500 since Jan 20 and another batch of €12,500 from July 20 and no wins yet but i am sure it is coming any day now

yeah,in it nearly ten years now and used to it's vagaries at this stage.ah consistency and the law of averages eh?you're in one or two wins a year territory
there on "average" good luck for the future.

abff · 10-03-2021 12:16pm

Had my first win in 2 months last Friday, so I've updated my table. I've also edited my data to allow for the fact that there are only 999,999 bonds per letter combination, not 1,000,000. Quite a lot of new bonds sold since the beginning of the year.

Date|New Bonds|Per Day
05/05/2017
19/05/2017 | 103,539,691 | 7,395,692
02/06/2017 | 103,713,608 | 7,408,115
21/07/2017 | 312,307,380 | 6,373,620
01/09/2017 | 260,208,161 | 6,195,432
03/11/2017 | 363,631,083 | 5,771,922
08/12/2017 | 208,144,809 | 5,946,995
22/12/2017 | 103,826,840 | 7,416,203
12/01/2018 | 78,472,968 | 3,736,808
27/04/2018 | 676,274,174 | 6,440,706
28/09/2018 | 1,065,663,998 | 6,919,896
02/11/2018 | 207,647,554 | 5,932,787
01/02/2019 | 598,650,240 | 6,578,574
15/02/2019 | 103,331,219 | 7,380,801
08/03/2019 | 130,250,694 | 6,202,414
29/03/2019 | 129,777,682 | 6,179,890
05/04/2019 | 51,885,267 | 7,412,181
03/05/2019 | 156,394,156 | 5,585,506
31/05/2019 | 155,511,576 | 5,553,985
07/06/2019 | 26,072,415 | 3,724,631
14/06/2019 | 26,481,363 | 3,783,052
12/07/2019 | 155,662,741 | 5,559,384
03/01/2020 | 1,066,460,082 | 6,094,058
03/04/2020 | 806,211,665 | 8,859,469
24/04/2020 | 155,885,610 | 7,423,124
01/05/2020 | 52,134,834 | 7,447,833
08/05/2020 | 51,263,194 | 7,323,313
10/07/2020 | 520,030,794 | 8,254,457
24/07/2020 | 78,611,529 | 5,615,109
20/11/2020 | 1,014,012,705 | 8,521,115
23/12/2020 | 337,340,758 | 10,222,447
08/01/2021 | 78,432,523 | 4,902,033
05/03/2021 | 623,964,305 | 11,142,220

Bass Reeves · 10-03-2021 12:19pm

John arse wrote: »

so a word of caution if you're thinking of banging in 50 or a 100k,it isn't a bed of roses in prize bond land,huge dry spells.i'd be massively frustrated if i wasn't used to it!

The thing about it is that sitting in the bank you are getting nothing. Ya your gambling but you are also hoping to get some bit of a return.

adox · 10-03-2021 1:14pm

Been off sick the last couple of weeks so haven’t been on here.
Nothing the last two weeks for me. Last win last October.

abff · 10-03-2021 1:28pm

I've expanded my earlier table to show the number of days between wins. Three of these were double wins and one was a triple, making a total of 1.85% over a period of 3 years and 10 months. This is an annualised return of 0.48% and is definitely better than the return I would have received if I had put this money on deposit.

You will also notice that the pattern is quite irregular, with one gap of 175 days between wins and a fallow period in 2018 when I only had two wins in 37 weeks. But there was also a great run in 2019 where I had 10 wins between February and July.

Date|Days|New Bonds|Per Day
05/05/2017
19/05/2017 | 14 | 103,539,691 | 7,395,692
02/06/2017 | 14 | 103,713,608 | 7,408,115
21/07/2017 | 49 | 312,307,380 | 6,373,620
01/09/2017 | 42 | 260,208,161 | 6,195,432
03/11/2017 | 63 | 363,631,083 | 5,771,922
08/12/2017 | 35 | 208,144,809 | 5,946,995
22/12/2017 | 14 | 103,826,840 | 7,416,203
12/01/2018 | 21 | 78,472,968 | 3,736,808
27/04/2018 | 105 | 676,274,174 | 6,440,706
28/09/2018 | 154 | 1,065,663,998 | 6,919,896
02/11/2018 | 35 | 207,647,554 | 5,932,787
01/02/2019 | 91 | 598,650,240 | 6,578,574
15/02/2019 | 14 | 103,331,219 | 7,380,801
08/03/2019 | 21 | 130,250,694 | 6,202,414
29/03/2019 | 21 | 129,777,682 | 6,179,890
05/04/2019 | 7 | 51,885,267 | 7,412,181
03/05/2019 | 28 | 156,394,156 | 5,585,506
31/05/2019 | 28 | 155,511,576 | 5,553,985
07/06/2019 | 7 | 26,072,415 | 3,724,631
14/06/2019 | 7 | 26,481,363 | 3,783,052
12/07/2019 | 28 | 155,662,741 | 5,559,384
03/01/2020 | 175 | 1,066,460,082 | 6,094,058
03/04/2020 | 91 | 806,211,665 | 8,859,469
24/04/2020 | 21 | 155,885,610 | 7,423,124
01/05/2020 | 7 | 52,134,834 | 7,447,833
08/05/2020 | 7 | 51,263,194 | 7,323,313
10/07/2020 | 63 | 520,030,794 | 8,254,457
24/07/2020 | 14 | 78,611,529 | 5,615,109
20/11/2020 | 119 | 1,014,012,705 | 8,521,115
23/12/2020 | 33 | 337,340,758 | 10,222,447
08/01/2021 | 16 | 78,432,523 | 4,902,033
05/03/2021 | 56 | 623,964,305 | 11,142,220

John arse · 10-03-2021 4:48pm

abff wrote: »

I've expanded my earlier table to show the number of days between wins. Three of these were double wins and one was a triple, making a total of 1.85% over a period of 3 years and 10 months. This is an annualised return of 0.48% and is definitely better than the return I would have received if I had put this money on deposit.

You will also notice that the pattern is quite irregular, with one gap of 175 days between wins and a fallow period in 2018 when I only had two wins in 37 weeks. But there was also a great run in 2019 where I had 10 wins between February and July.

Date|Days|New Bonds|Per Day
05/05/2017
19/05/2017 | 14 | 103,539,691 | 7,395,692
02/06/2017 | 14 | 103,713,608 | 7,408,115
21/07/2017 | 49 | 312,307,380 | 6,373,620
01/09/2017 | 42 | 260,208,161 | 6,195,432
03/11/2017 | 63 | 363,631,083 | 5,771,922
08/12/2017 | 35 | 208,144,809 | 5,946,995
22/12/2017 | 14 | 103,826,840 | 7,416,203
12/01/2018 | 21 | 78,472,968 | 3,736,808
27/04/2018 | 105 | 676,274,174 | 6,440,706
28/09/2018 | 154 | 1,065,663,998 | 6,919,896
02/11/2018 | 35 | 207,647,554 | 5,932,787
01/02/2019 | 91 | 598,650,240 | 6,578,574
15/02/2019 | 14 | 103,331,219 | 7,380,801
08/03/2019 | 21 | 130,250,694 | 6,202,414
29/03/2019 | 21 | 129,777,682 | 6,179,890
05/04/2019 | 7 | 51,885,267 | 7,412,181
03/05/2019 | 28 | 156,394,156 | 5,585,506
31/05/2019 | 28 | 155,511,576 | 5,553,985
07/06/2019 | 7 | 26,072,415 | 3,724,631
14/06/2019 | 7 | 26,481,363 | 3,783,052
12/07/2019 | 28 | 155,662,741 | 5,559,384
03/01/2020 | 175 | 1,066,460,082 | 6,094,058
03/04/2020 | 91 | 806,211,665 | 8,859,469
24/04/2020 | 21 | 155,885,610 | 7,423,124
01/05/2020 | 7 | 52,134,834 | 7,447,833
08/05/2020 | 7 | 51,263,194 | 7,323,313
10/07/2020 | 63 | 520,030,794 | 8,254,457
24/07/2020 | 14 | 78,611,529 | 5,615,109
20/11/2020 | 119 | 1,014,012,705 | 8,521,115
23/12/2020 | 33 | 337,340,758 | 10,222,447
08/01/2021 | 16 | 78,432,523 | 4,902,033
05/03/2021 | 56 | 623,964,305 | 11,142,220

not really relevant the time between wins when you don't say how many bonds you have,ie 25k should win 1-2 times a year,250k 13 times a year etc.

abff · 10-03-2021 5:05pm

I didn't think it was necessary to say how many bonds I had, as I quoted an overall return of 1.85% and you could work back from this to calculate how much I had invested. My initial investment was €100,000 and I have automatically reinvested my winnings, so I currently have a total holding of €101,850.

John arse · 10-03-2021 5:18pm

abff wrote: »

I didn't think it was necessary to say how many bonds I had, as I quoted an overall return of 1.85% and you could work back from this to calculate how much I had invested. My initial investment was €100,000 and I have automatically reinvested my winnings, so I currently have a total holding of €101,850.

ah didn't see that you included how many double and triple wins thereof,thanks

Taylor365 · 10-03-2021 7:47pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

The thing about it is that sitting in the bank you are getting nothing. Ya your gambling but you are also hoping to get some bit of a return.

Who what?

Andrew Flexing · 12-03-2021 1:46pm

#Dry2021. No Joy.
Kildare hits a new low of 163 winners this week.

Jan XXXXX
Feb XXXX
Mar XX

(Spare a thought for Tuis' poor Postman though)

dxhound2005 · 12-03-2021 1:49pm

That's March 05. Results are not in for the 12th, must be some delay.

Agent Smyth · 12-03-2021 2:03pm

A €50 win for us today from the big batch

tuisginideach · 12-03-2021 2:06pm

No results for today available on my screen yet

Agent Smyth · 12-03-2021 2:07pm

Still have my fingers crossed for you

12-03-2021 2:08pm

tuisginideach wrote: »

No results for today available on my screen yet

Same here.

carrickbawn · 12-03-2021 2:10pm

€50 for me again today. Still no results for today. Must be a glitch.

tuisginideach · 12-03-2021 2:12pm

carrickbawn wrote: »

€50 for me again today. Still no results for today. Must be a glitch.

And how can you check so?

tuisginideach · 12-03-2021 2:15pm

The Prize Bond Draw for the 12th of March 2021 has taken place. Due to a technical issue, the publication of the results to the website has been delayed and will be available as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.

Note posted online

carrickbawn · 12-03-2021 2:18pm

tuisginideach wrote: »

And how can you check so?

It is showing in my tracker. I think the results are showing too. Just the wrong date .

tuisginideach · 12-03-2021 2:21pm

Ah I see. Well, if that's so, then my postman can take his holiday - no winner today - hope the winning glitch extends to plenty of you!

carrickbawn · 12-03-2021 2:24pm

carrickbawn wrote: »

It is showing in my tracker. I think the results are showing too. Just the wrong date .

Sorry. Wrong about the results. My win today from same batch as last week. It was last weeks win showed up in the search function.

12-03-2021 2:25pm

My tracker says the information is only accurate to 5th March even searching for the date range up to today. Still hopeful

dxhound2005 · 12-03-2021 2:31pm

I took a look yesterday to see how my €10K batch bought in 2007 performed since August 2017. Three wins in 2018, one in April, two in June. No wins since then. So that means someone with €20K could go for well over a year with no wins. Nothing surprising there of course, but some people think that it indicates a scam.

maebee · 12-03-2021 5:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

My tracker says the information is only accurate to 5th March even searching for the date range up to today. Still hopeful

Mine says the same and informs me that I had a €50 win today

. It has to have been today as I checked last week and nada then.

pbwinner · 12-03-2021 6:10pm

Winnings on 12th March 2021: €0
Last win 18th December 2020: €100
Total winnings on €25k from Feb 2011 to date: €3150
2011: €75 x 4 = €300
2012: €75 x 6 = €450
2013: €50 x 12 = €600
2014: €50 x 9 = €450
2015: €50 x 5 = €250
2016: €50 x 5 = €250
2017: €50 x 4 = €200
2018: €50 x 2 = €100
2019: €50 x 6 = €300
2020: €50 x 5 = €250
2021: €0

dxhound2005 · 12-03-2021 8:12pm

Nothing for me today. Continuing my March count.

Week 2. 32 million bonds AUP to AVU inclusive. Highest AUP 12, lowest AVD zero. Four other prefixes had 3, and five had 8. All prizes €50. Total wins 180, average per million 5.625. x €50 x 52 = €14625.00 / 62.50 = €234.00 expected win by €100K in a year, nearest is €250.

32 million bonds won 4.540% of the 3965 prizes. 100% of the fund on that basis would be €4.4053 billion rounded.

Hibernicis · 12-03-2021 8:57pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Nothing for me today.

Are you sure ? When I use the find winners it shows that I have no winnings (naturally enough !) but it also states “ Up to date as of Friday 5 March 2021” so looks like today’s winnings still haven’t been uploaded.

From memory, last time this was broken it didn’t get sorted out properly until late Sunday night, though there were a few intermittent periods of availability before that.

tuisginideach · 12-03-2021 9:08pm

I'm still getting that message too .... but no lodgement to be seen so I'm not expecting anything....

dxhound2005 · 12-03-2021 9:16pm

Hibernicis wrote: »

Are you sure ? When I use the find winners it shows that I have no winnings (naturally enough !) but it also states “ Up to date as of Friday 5 March 2021” so looks like today’s winnings still haven’t been uploaded.

From memory, last time this was broken it didn’t get sorted out properly until late Sunday night, though there were a few intermittent periods of availability before that.

Did you see the link on the red message? It has the winners listed by bond number, and I know my numbers.

View the Prize Bond Draw results for 12th March 2021 here. Due to a technical issue, the publication of the results to the website has been delayed and will be available as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.

tuisginideach · 12-03-2021 9:19pm

Our holdings are scattered from €25 (yes, €25, not €25 K) value upwards - I did check the numbers of the 3 larger batches but I haven't looked at all the 'stray' ones.

dxhound2005 · 12-03-2021 9:23pm

No point looking for €25. That won't win for the next 3,867 years:)

I could have a win from one of my reinvestments, but it is very unlikely.

PB2018 · 12-03-2021 9:35pm

This barren spell is lasting longer than current lockdown

Wins on 12th March 2021: €0
Last win: 18th December 2020: €50
Weeks since last win: 12
€134k invested in prize bonds since July 2017
Win ratio: 24 wins in 193 weeks (12%)
2017 (Jul-Dec): 5 x €50 = €250
2018 (Jan-Dec): 4 x €50 = €200
2019 (Jan-Dec): 5 x €50 = €250
2020 (Jan-Dec): 10 x €50 = €500
2021 (Jan-date): 0 x €50 = €0

Hibernicis · 12-03-2021 10:45pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Did you see the link on the red message? It has the winners listed by bond number, and I know my numbers.

View the Prize Bond Draw results for 12th March 2021 here. Due to a technical issue, the publication of the results to the website has been delayed and will be available as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.

Sorry you are of course correct. I hadn't spotted that. I think I'll wait till the system is sorted. That way I live in hope of a prize for another few hours rather spend 30 mins of my time checking manually only to confirm that my dry spell of doom is persisting !

(However I had a peek at the top prize and can confirm that I do not own VI912965)

dxhound2005 · 13-03-2021 11:33am

Andrew Flexing wrote: »

#Dry2021. No Joy.
Kildare hits a new low of 163 winners this week.

Jan XXXXX
Feb XXXX
Mar XX

(Spare a thought for Tuis' poor Postman though)

133 for Kildare. Which is just one fewer than all the wins in Monaghan, Cavan, Leitrim, Sligo, Roscommon and Longford combined. Also just one fewer than Westmeath, Offaly and Laois combined. Longford got just 10 wins.

Going back to the start of the year Kildare got an average of 3.648% of the prizes. The county had 4.676% of the population in the 2016 Census, so that might indicate that the people of Kildare are in a "Disadvantaged Area":)

As always Dublin and Cork combined got more than half the prizes this week, 52.6%.

pbtracker · 13-03-2021 11:44am

Normal service resumes with no win....I was holding out hope yesterday when the results were not up!

Winnings on 12th Mar 2021: €0
Last win : €50 5th Mar 2021
Investment : €77K (from Aug 2020)
Winnings Total : €250
Pre 2020 : €50
2020 : €150
2021 : €50

13-03-2021 12:45pm

1 x 50 euro for me. I'll get the virtual drinks in.

adox · 13-03-2021 1:27pm

The dry spell continues for me.

Hibernicis · 13-03-2021 2:32pm

Fourteenth week of nothingness, a new record for me. Previous longest drought was 13 weeks on €200k in Autumn 2018

Winnings on 12th March €0
Last win: 4th December €50
Weeks since last win: 14

2017 (Jul-Dec) - €100k – 7x€50 = €350
2018 (Jan-Dec) - €200k – 12x€50 = €600
2019 (Jan-Dec) - €250k – 20x€50 = €1,000
2020 (Jan-Dec) - €252k - 24x€50 = €1,200
2021 (YTD) - €257k - 0x€0 = €0

Taylor365 · 13-03-2021 3:03pm

Hibernicis wrote: »

Fourteenth week of nothingness, a new record for me. Previous longest drought was 13 weeks on €200k in Autumn 2018

Winnings on 12th March €0
Last win: 4th December €50
Weeks since last win: 14

2017 (Jul-Dec) - €100k – 7x€50 = €350
2018 (Jan-Dec) - €200k – 12x€50 = €600
2019 (Jan-Dec) - €250k – 20x€50 = €1,000
2020 (Jan-Dec) - €252k - 24x€50 = €1,200
2021 (YTD) - €257k - 0x€0 = €0

What are you waiting for Hibernicis? With such a large holding :pac:

John arse · 13-03-2021 3:42pm

Hibernicis wrote: »

Fourteenth week of nothingness, a new record for me. Previous longest drought was 13 weeks on €200k in Autumn 2018

Winnings on 12th March €0
Last win: 4th December €50
Weeks since last win: 14

2017 (Jul-Dec) - €100k – 7x€50 = €350
2018 (Jan-Dec) - €200k – 12x€50 = €600
2019 (Jan-Dec) - €250k – 20x€50 = €1,000
2020 (Jan-Dec) - €252k - 24x€50 = €1,200
2021 (YTD) - €257k - 0x€0 = €0

wow on 257k!-frustrating:mad:

mosii · 13-03-2021 3:48pm

Hi ,when is the 250k prize for this month?Tks

John arse · 13-03-2021 3:50pm

mosii wrote: »

Hi ,when is the 250k prize for this month?Tks

last friday in march i imagine,think that's the 26th.

mosii · 13-03-2021 3:51pm

Thanks

€25k invested in prize bonds

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