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Saorview frequencies reshuffle (700 MHz clearence)

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  • #302
    Hibrasil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Hibrasil


    Digifriendly wrote: »
    BTW i don't charge any fee. I'm doing it for members of my church most of whom are elderly.

    Good man....nice to see the decency of a good deed still exists in todays world:)


  • #303
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    ^^^
    After changing my LG TV to use Ch 46 instead of CH 55 from Maghera, I no longer (as of yet) get that annoying retune message....
    Also nicely coincidently, the lower frequency signal on CH 46 also is much more robust than CH 55 for long cable runs. Both our house and the neighbours, with one TV on a long run coaxial cable, used to get breakup on that TV due to the weather and/or local electrical interference on CH 55, but it's never a problem on CH 46 since retuning. The other shorter cable run TV was always fine in both houses on Ch 55.


  • #304
    Rick_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Good to hear.

    I also seem to have found an aerial installer who said they can modify my parents set-up to get back COM7 and COM8 and hopefully (as its at a stronger power than those 2 COM MUX's) the local MUX from Divis on 36 also.

    Mu mum will be pleased if she can as she was particularly annoyed at losing True Entertainment, which has now become Sony Channel.


  • #305
    TAFKAlawhec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭TAFKAlawhec


    Digifriendly wrote: »
    Problem here in NI is that Saorview channels are all over the place after either auto tune or manual scan and all the empty channel carriers on one of the muxes is a pain as you have to delete empty channel carriers and reorder channels. I know Saorview is not devised for UK market but many people up here have Saorview and elderly in particular don't know how to reorder channel list so some do not even know they have some channels which are way down the epg in late 800s. I have been retuning TVs in my area since latest changes and reordering Saorview channels has taken up most of my time.

    That's a different matter to what was being mentioned. The "late 800's" issue is down to the UK D-Book specifications where the 800's channels are allocated to "duplicate" or UK out-of-region channels, as well as non-UK received services. The large amount of empty 800's LCN numbers is down to 2RN allocating LCN numbers for ROI reception which contain no associated service. If you set the country on the tuner as "Ireland" and did a scan, the LCNs would be essentially invisible whilst channel surfing - but where the tuner is set to another country then the order gets messed up.

    Personally I set the Saorview TV channels to be reordered, where possible, into the 90's with the radio starting at 740. People's mileage will vary. A number of years back when Freeview had less stations running, I placed the Saorview TV channels in the 60's and the radio starting at 730.

    I've long wondered if the Saorview services could be run with a dual-LCN, one corresponding to Ireland and a second one to the UK for NI viewers? I suspect it's possible (the Freeview multiplexes in NI for example have two clocks corresponding to time settings for both the UK & ROI, but this isn't reciprocated by Saorview) and could have been designed so that Saorview viewers in NI would have then channels in a specific, unique LCN allocation - but I suspect programming rights issues get in the way, like it does in most things broadcasting.


  • #306
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Split the posts replying to #306 to a new thread


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  • #307
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    icdg wrote: »
    Split the posts replying to #306 to a new thread

    Thanks icdg, unfortunately you also took Digifriendly's post which was relevant to this thread's discussion - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=111459663#post111459663 :)


  • #308
    soporific
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭soporific


    Just a quick note to help anyone who lost Kilkeel signal on the East Coast. I got the channels back....somewhat. My group B yagi was aimed exactly at Kilkeel and had perfect reception until last month's changes. For a few weeks, they were gone, occasionally blipping in on misty days (I guess this was due to the atmospheric conditions blocking interference from the Newry trasnmitter.) But then I discovered that some of my neighbours with wideband aerials were still receiving Kilkeel. Out to the roof I went and twisted the aerial away from Kilkeel (and away from Newry) and in came the channels (albeit much weaker signal). Sometimes it seems having a weaker wideband aerial is better than having a strong directional yagi.


  • #309
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's a known technique with interfering signals to aim your aerial "off-beam" a bit in the hope that while the wanted signal will be weakened, the unwanted signal will be weakened even more.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #310
    Digifriendly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    Just to say that I am now able to get consistently stable signal on C51 (Com 7 Divis) over last week on one of my TVs when immediately after frequency changes the signal was intermittent or showing no signal at all. I even had an intermittent C60 (Com 8) a couple of days ago on the same TV.


  • #311
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    soporific wrote: »
    ... My group B yagi was aimed exactly at Kilkeel and had perfect reception until last month's changes.

    ... But then I discovered that some of my neighbours with wideband aerials were still receiving Kilkeel.

    ... Sometimes it seems having a weaker wideband aerial is better than having a strong directional yagi.

    If it's grid aerials you're referring to, they won't be hugely 'weaker' than your Yagi, at the frequencies concerned, & are probably just as directional for vertically polarised signals.

    Their radiation pattern must just suit the location in question.


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  • #312
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Regarding kilkeel,how do you know,aerials are pointed exactly at it? Has anyone actually used a meter or are aerials pointed just vaguely as they were in analogue days?

    We aligned an aerial in Arklow for Arfon for example with a meter only to discover that other aerials were considerably off
    The other houses were getting reasonable analogue back in the day,but could have been getting better
    Their signal level for digital,which is very important must have been way down on what it could have been
    Moral of the story,make sure you have a meter and if needed call out a service with someone who definitely has a meter


  • #313
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Regarding kilkeel,how do you know,aerials are pointed exactly at it? Has anyone actually used a meter or are aerials pointed just vaguely as they were in analogue days?

    I used Google maps "measure distance" to get a direct line from the transmitter to my house. Luckily there's decent satellite imagery in my area. I then pointed the aerial at a landmark on or close to the line. (Well actually I stood outside my house and got a compass bearing on the phone to the landmark, as the aerial is in the loft and then used that bearing to line up the aerial - I live in the countryside so have a clear view to horizon). A few degrees either side of that bearing made no difference to the signal for me.

    EDIT - This was from Maghera in Co Clare.


  • #314
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    MBSnr wrote: »
    I used Google maps "measure distance" to get a direct line from the transmitter to my house. Luckily there's decent satellite imagery in my area. I then pointed the aerial at a landmark on or close to the line. (Well actually I stood outside my house and got a compass bearing on the phone to the landmark, as the aerial is in the loft and then used that bearing to line up the aerial - I live in the countryside so have a clear view to horizon). A few degrees either side of that bearing made no difference to the signal for me.

    EDIT - This was from Maghera in Co Clare.

    Probably ok for within the service area of an Irish tx but for pulling in Fringe digital from outside the coverage area of UK transmitters, a meter is your only man(or woman)
    Google maps will locate the transmitter for you but it won't locate the peak strength of an invisible beam for you and you need that


  • #315
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    MBSnr wrote: »
    ... A few degrees either side of that bearing made no difference to the signal for me.

    Yeah, UHF TV aerials aren't all that directional, even higher gain types.


  • #316
    soporific
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭soporific


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Regarding kilkeel,how do you know,aerials are pointed exactly at it? Has anyone actually used a meter or are aerials pointed just vaguely as they were in analogue days?
    r


    I used the signal value on the TV. Naturally, it changes constantly as the atmosphere changes, but it's possible with patience to get an exact lock.
    And small increments do make a big difference to fringe reception.


  • #317
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    soporific wrote: »
    I used the signal value on the TV. Naturally, it changes constantly as the atmosphere changes, but it's possible with patience to get an exact lock.
    And small increments do make a big difference to fringe reception.

    A meter is a much more sensitive lock but yeah you're right small increments are the difference between no signal some of the time or all of the time
    Back in analogue days, you could move a preseli aerial here at home a foot or two either side and still have reception albeit snowier the further off you went
    That option doesn't exist with digital,you either have it or you don't,its a cliff edge drop
    The fringe signal varying with weather too is another reason to get it at as full a metered peak as you can if you can get a meter or a rigger has one for you
    With weather too,you can lose a digital fringe signal,not because it's too weak but because it's too strong and floods the band if say you have a distribution amplifier
    When a weather front approaches for example,ahead of it here preseli gets very strong and you lose it
    We use an attenuator to dial it down and restore the channels
    Fog does the opposite or high waves at sea,those weaken signal considerably


  • #318
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    soporific wrote: »
    ... And small increments do make a big difference to fringe reception.

    You might be in the fringe as regards Kilkeel's service area, but you more than likely still have clear line-of-sight to the transmitter, which is more than can be said for some locations actually in service areas.

    The problem is interference, mainly from the co-channel Camlough & hugely more powerful adjacent channel Clermont Carn.


  • #319
    kazoo106
    Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭kazoo106


    Clermont Carn is also strong in those kilkeel service areas with no LOS - Its only 15km away !!


  • #320
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    kazoo106 wrote: »
    Clermont Carn is also strong in those kilkeel service areas with no LOS - Its only 15km away !!

    No LOS to where?

    CC wouldn't be putting anywhere near max. power that way anyway though.


  • #321
    kazoo106
    Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭kazoo106


    The areas with no LOS to Aughram around Cranfield


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  • #322
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    kazoo106 wrote: »
    The areas with no LOS to Aughram around Cranfield

    Well, CC won't have panels facing that way, & the rx aerials on Kilkeel will be at right angles more or less, so it's not like someone further south trying to discriminate between them.


  • #323
    Antenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Antenna


    Some pictures (audio is silent) of current bilingual advisory appearing on Saorview channel 17 on a receiver put on the old UHF channel MUX that's to be switched off from an affected transmitter (manually tuned to 49 instead of the replacement 39 from Spur Hill).
    The notice only mentions retuning/rescanning. No mention that some viewers nationwide would have to replace aerials. The affected TV stations on the to-be-discontinued MUX continue to have a full stop after the station name as an indication they are affected.

    One quirk on the Walker combo receiver I tried out. Go straight to RTE1 (pressing 1) from this notice and there was no sound on RTE1 ! Sound returned by going to RTE2 and back to RTE1


    496854.JPG

    and pressing the info button shows the following:

    496855.JPG


  • #324
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Saorview Advisory channels

    LCN 17 (Mux 2)
    LCN 18 (Mux 1)
    From late November, Saorview will be broadcasting a message on channels 17 and 18 which will only be viewable if you are in an area affected by the change and are still receiving Saorview on the old frequencies. The old frequencies will be switched off on 4 March 2020, so you will have until then to retune your Saorview TV or box.

    https://www.saorview.ie/en/changes/faqs


  • #325
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    We lost all our channels except for RTE1, Virgin media 3 and the +1 channels on our aerial powered saorbox. I've tried rescanning countless times and tried all the different settings but I can't get the channels back. I thought it may have been linked to this frequency change. However, I bought a £20 freeview box off Amazon and all the channels are working on this.

    Could this be just a faulty saorbox or is there something I need to do to get the channels back? (do some kind of manual scan or change something with the aerial for example) I would prefer to use the old saorbox as it's better quality with better record functions.

    Thanks in advance for any help!


  • #326
    Mickey Mike
    Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Mickey Mike


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    We lost all our channels except for RTE1, Virgin media 3 and the +1 channels on our aerial powered saorbox. I've tried rescanning countless times and tried all the different settings but I can't get the channels back. I thought it may have been linked to this frequency change. However, I bought a £20 freeview box off Amazon and all the channels are working on this.

    Could this be just a faulty saorbox or is there something I need to do to get the channels back? (do some kind of manual scan or change something with the aerial for example) I would prefer to use the old saorbox as it's better quality with better record functions.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Mux 1 is out of order in your area.


  • #327
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    We lost all our channels except for RTE1, Virgin media 3 and the +1 channels on our aerial powered saorbox. I've tried rescanning countless times and tried all the different settings but I can't get the channels back. I thought it may have been linked to this frequency change. However, I bought a £20 freeview box off Amazon and all the channels are working on this.

    Could this be just a faulty saorbox or is there something I need to do to get the channels back? (do some kind of manual scan or change something with the aerial for example) ...

    At the affected transmitters, the new frequencies have been running alongside the old since September, & the old won't be switched off until March.

    What part of the country are you in? Can you get the Amazon box to display channel nos. or frequencies for RTE1 & RTE2?


  • #328
    podge018
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭podge018


    Trying to tune saorview channels via indoor aerial to a Sony Bravia KDL-40D3500 but I’m only getting sound and guide, no picture. Any idea why?


  • #329
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    podge018 wrote: »
    Trying to tune saorview channels via indoor aerial to a Sony Bravia KDL-40D3500 but I’m only getting sound and guide, no picture. Any idea why?

    Bad news I'm afraid
    Thats an mpeg 2 capable telly only
    It's not comparable with saorview mpeg4 which is why you have sound and no picture
    Where did you get it?
    Its s uk freeview only tv
    It doesn't even have a uk freeview hd tuner (DVB T2) which is compatible with saorview


  • #330
    podge018
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭podge018


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Bad news I'm afraid
    Thats an mpeg 2 capable telly only
    It's not comparable with saorview mpeg4 which is why you have sound and no picture
    Where did you get it?
    Its s uk freeview only tv
    It doesn't even have a uk freeview hd tuner (DVB T2) which is compatible with saorview

    Feared as much from a quick google search, thanks for confirming.

    Anything I can do at all? Buy a connection or a box or anything?


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  • #331
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    podge018 wrote: »
    Feared as much from a quick google search, thanks for confirming.

    Anything I can do at all? Buy a connection or a box or anything?

    External Saorview box, still available in basically any electrical retailer.


  • #332
    aoife1991
    Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭aoife1991


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    We lost all our channels except for RTE1, Virgin media 3 and the +1 channels on our aerial powered saorbox. I've tried rescanning countless times and tried all the different settings but I can't get the channels back. I thought it may have been linked to this frequency change.

    I am also having this exact problem in Carrigaline. I have saorview through antenna on a LG tv and after similarly rescanning the tv several times, there's no sign of these channels coming back. Does anyone have a solution to this?


  • #333
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    Elvis Hammond wrote: »
    At the affected transmitters, the new frequencies have been running alongside the old since September, & the old won't be switched off until March.

    What part of the country are you in? Can you get the Amazon box to display channel nos. or frequencies for RTE1 & RTE2?

    I'm in the Moycullen area in Galway. I will check the answer to your second question but the Amazon box is quite poor, the channels seem to be all over the place :( but the picture is clear and all channels are available at least


  • #334
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    Elvis Hammond wrote: »
    Can you get the Amazon box to display channel nos. or frequencies for RTE1 & RTE2?

    The channel nos are in the 800s. RTE2 is 801, RTE1 is something like 807.

    Funnily enough the old saorbox has now found all the missing channels but they are very skippy and most have just a black screen with sound.

    Seeing as I'm having better luck with Freeview HD equipment, I'm thinking of investing in this box:
    BT Ultra HD YouView Box UHD DTR-T4000/500GB with Twin HD Freeview (£120)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01B5XN9GM/ref=dp_cr_wdg_tit_nw_ls

    which meets all my criteria (which I can't find in a saorbox):
    -Uses aerial
    -Has a fast interface
    -will allow me to record one channel while viewing another
    -Has clear channels
    -Is not ridiculously expensive for what you are getting.


  • #335
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    The channel nos are in the 800s. RTE2 is 801, RTE1 is something like 807.

    Funnily enough the old saorbox has now found all the missing channels but they are very skippy and most have just a black screen with sound.

    Seeing as I'm having better luck with Freeview HD equipment, I'm thinking of investing in this box:
    BT Ultra HD YouView Box UHD DTR-T4000/500GB with Twin HD Freeview (£120)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01B5XN9GM/ref=dp_cr_wdg_tit_nw_ls.

    It is possible that BT box will put the Saorview channels in the 800s also, someone in NI may be able to confirm how this receiver handles Saorview channels.

    The reason the Saorview channels are stored at random in the 800s on some digital receivers is that the box was setup with UK as the country/region, this is by default in the Freeview standard as the Saorview channels are out-of-region for UK. Factory resetting the box to Ireland if possible may restore the correct Saorview positioning of channels.

    Unfortunately some UK Freeview receiver have no other option other than UK at setup and in this case there may be an option to manually move them into the correct starting at 1 etc., but some receivers only give you the option to move them within the 800s, starting at 801.


  • #336
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    The channel nos are in the 800s. RTE2 is 801, RTE1 is something like 807...

    I meant the UHF channel nos., or frequencies that the transmitter uses, so it can be identified, & try to see if it's the one you're actually set up for.

    What kind of aerial do you have anyway?


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  • #337
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    The Cush wrote: »
    It is possible that BT box will put the Saorview channels in the 800s also, someone in NI may be able to confirm how this receiver handles Saorview channels.

    The reason the Saorview channels are stored at random in the 800s on some digital receivers is that the box was setup with UK as the country/region, this is by default in the Freeview standard as the Saorview channels are out-of-region for UK. Factory resetting the box to Ireland if possible may restore the correct Saorview positioning of channels.

    Unfortunately some UK Freeview receiver have no other option other than UK at setup and in this case there may be an option to manually move them into the correct starting at 1 etc., but some receivers only give you the option to move them within the 800s, starting at 801.

    Interesting stuff. I did read in some old forums that some people had issues with Youview boxes not offering a manual scan option and that they truncated the channel numbers so that last available was 850 but RTE1 was falling on 864.

    But the box has too many other perks that I just have to take the chance on it. It's fulfilled by Amazon anyway so I can always return it.
    Elvis Hammond wrote: »
    I meant the UHF channel nos., or frequencies that the transmitter uses, so it can be identified, & try to see if it's the one you're actually set up for.

    What kind of aerial do you have anyway?
    Sorry Elvis, I'm not too familiar with this equipment, we've had it for years without any problems. Would aerial info be read and displayed by the saorbox?
    The UHF channel that the auto scan picks is 22.


  • #338
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    ... I'm not too familiar with this equipment, we've had it for years without any problems. Would aerial info be read and displayed by the saorbox?
    The UHF channel that the auto scan picks is 22.

    Ch. 22 is from Castlebar, one of probably 3 or 4 transmitter sites receivable at your location. It would also be the 1st channel the box would find on a scan. RTE1 etc. from this transmitter is on ch. 25.

    The box won't know anything about the aerial: if the aerial is outside, it should be easy to get a photo, & see if it's actually pointed at Castlebar, or if the box is ignoring better signals higher up the band.


  • #339
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    Elvis Hammond wrote: »
    Ch. 22 is from Castlebar, one of probably 3 or 4 transmitter sites receivable at your location. It would also be the 1st channel the box would find on a scan. RTE1 etc. from this transmitter is on ch. 25.

    The box won't know anything about the aerial: if the aerial is outside, it should be easy to get a photo, & see if it's actually pointed at Castlebar, or if the box is ignoring better signals higher up the band.

    Thanks for the info. I put my eircode into the saorview coverage checker and Castlebar came up as the most suitable even though it is much further away than some others. The others are blocked by a big mountain so the Castlebar transmitter must have a better line of sight for us.

    The aerial is in the attic so I'd have to go up to get a photo. But from memory it looks something like this and I'm fairly sure it's pointing north (i.e towards Castlebar):

    https://www.freetv.ie/images/detailed/2/saorview-uhf-tv-aerial-kit-4.jpg
    saorview-uhf-tv-aerial-kit-4.jpg

    It's unusual though how the £20 amazon box has all the channels crystal clear.


  • #340
    Elvis Hammond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    ... It's unusual though how the £20 amazon box has all the channels crystal clear.

    Probably better at handling a poor signal?

    Was there any activity in the attic coinciding with the problems? Maybe the aerial being obstructed, someone stood on a cable etc.


  • #341
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    Elvis Hammond wrote: »
    Probably better at handling a poor signal?

    Was there any activity in the attic coinciding with the problems? Maybe the aerial being obstructed, someone stood on a cable etc.

    No action in the attic at all. I think it may be the saorbox. I ran auto-scan a few times today and it froze half way through every time.

    Must have been an unfortunate coincidence that it happened at the same time as the frequency reshuffle.


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  • #342
    Digifriendly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    For some reason Com 6 (C51) and NIMM (C33) from Divis and Black Mountain respectively have improved over last few days for my location. I had lost both altogether from one of my TVs since reshuffle but now both are coming through. I have also noticed that in removing a setback amplifier altogether and switching off power to masthead amp (used for Saorview from Clermont Carn) I now receive all multiplexes from Divis including Com 7 (C60) on one of my 2 TVs. This does not cause a great problem as I can still receive both Saorview multiplexes (C42/C45) when power to masthead amp is off albeit in reduced signal quality but watchable nonetheless.


  • #343
    Stuxnet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    Guys I was away on holidays and come back to see most of my Saorview channels gone. I did check my Eircode and I am indeed affected. I live in Ennis. I have a Vu Duo 4K boxfor Saorview, Freesat and Hotbird. So I use E-Channilzer to help me manage it all. I did a re-scan of the terrestrial tuners on the box, but its failed to find all the channels. Does any one know the input parameters for this so I can do a manual scan ??

    https://imgur.com/a/0bXPvSC

    ETA I did find the channels with an automatic scan, I pulled them from the last scanned folder into my Saorview bouquet. Problem sorted, thanks

    But if anyone has that manual transponder info for future reference, Id still appreciate it


  • #344
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    According to https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage, Ennis uses the Maghera transmitter which uses Channels 46 & 48


  • #345
    CrowdedHouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    A question about re-tuning:

    A friend of mine who gets service from Maghera sent me a photo of the tv guide on their TV saying that it needs to be re-tuned before March.

    (I put up an aerial and tuned it in for them a few years ago)

    I'll pop around and do it for them, I'm just wondering is there some flag on the system to prevent me having 2 lots of the same channels (old and new) on the TV?

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • #346
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stuxnet wrote: »
    Guys I was away on holidays and come back to see most of my Saorview channels gone. I did check my Eircode and I am indeed affected. I live in Ennis. I have a Vu Duo 4K boxfor Saorview, Freesat and Hotbird. So I use E-Channilzer to help me manage it all. I did a re-scan of the terrestrial tuners on the box, but its failed to find all the channels. Does any one know the input parameters for this so I can do a manual scan ??

    https://imgur.com/a/0bXPvSC

    ETA I did find the channels with an automatic scan, I pulled them from the last scanned folder into my Saorview bouquet. Problem sorted, thanks

    But if anyone has that manual transponder info for future reference, Id still appreciate it

    I was using the old frequency on one device here and yesterday all the channels on that mux showed "Advisory".
    Mux frequency changed from
    746000000
    to
    674000000

    All good again now.


  • #347
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    CrowdedHouse wrote: »
    I'll pop around and do it for them, I'm just wondering is there some flag on the system to prevent me having 2 lots of the same channels (old and new) on the TV?

    A Saorview compatible tuner will only store one set of channels, the new ones in this case and ignore duplicates.


  • #348
    dereks
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭dereks


    Hi,

    Freesat channels gone since Saturday on combi box. Saorview channels had gone too but back now.

    Based in north county Dublin, is there anyway to get them back or are they gone now?


  • #349
    JamBur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭JamBur


    This is a thread about Saorview.

    As long as your box, dish and cable are ok, then you probably just need to retune.


  • #350
    dereks
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭dereks


    Its linked to the Saorview and Freeview updates so that's why I'm asking.

    Its gone anytime there is work done (Sept last year too).

    A retune has not worked.


  • #351
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    dereks wrote: »
    Hi,

    Freesat channels gone since Saturday on combi box. Saorview channels had gone too but back now.

    Based in north county Dublin, is there anyway to get them back or are they gone now?

    It was windy - your satellite may have moved. Mine did, and I moved it back.


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