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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭friendlyfun


    Bring in Maurice ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Bring in Maurice ffs

    He should be given a chance at least

    More than likely it will be the league panel going back on the 14th


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭carter10


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    He should be given a chance at least

    More than likely it will be the league panel going back on the 14th

    Think it would be foolish of Cahill not to recognise some of the players not on the panel who played well in the club. By doing this he is sending out the message that no one can play themselves onto the panel once it's picked. Have to give fellas something to work towards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    carter10 wrote: »
    Think it would be foolish of Cahill not to recognise some of the players not on the panel who played well in the club. By doing this he is sending out the message that no one can play themselves onto the panel once it's picked. Have to give fellas something to work towards

    Good interview here

    https://www.spreaker.com/user/wlrfm/liamcahill7inarow


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Waternut


    carter10 wrote: »
    Think it would be foolish of Cahill not to recognise some of the players not on the panel who played well in the club. By doing this he is sending out the message that no one can play themselves onto the panel once it's picked. Have to give fellas something to work towards
    So who else do you think he should bring in? For reasons outlined before, I think Shanahan should get recalled, but apart from Maurice, I'm struggling to think of anyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Waternut wrote: »
    So who else do you think he should bring in? For reasons outlined before, I think Shanahan should get recalled, but apart from Maurice, I'm struggling to think of anyone else.

    Shane Bennett


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭upthedeise16


    Brickeys beat Stradbally in a big shock in the senior football championship so Stradbally now have to beat An Rinn to have any chance of progression. Elsewhere as expected The Nire, Rathgormack and Ballinacourty had wins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭deisedude


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Shane Bennett

    Shane Bennett opted out of the panel. He didn't want to play, Maybe he has changed his mind since but if he wants to play that's up to him to contact Cahill and not the other way round

    As for Maurice he is a liability with his temperament. That's why he is not on the panel. After seeing him get sent off against Cork in the 2018 league relegation final after less than a minute on the field i never wanted to see him in a Waterford jersey again


  • Registered Users Posts: 924 ✭✭✭DiscoStew


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Shane Bennett

    Based off Ballysaggart’s two games? Are people not suggesting he calls people in based on their club championship performances? There’s a case to be made for Bennett, but it certainly isn’t that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Mastermcgrath


    DiscoStew wrote: »
    Based off Ballysaggart’s two games? Are people not suggesting he calls people in based on their club championship performances? There’s a case to be made for Bennett, but it certainly isn’t that!

    Apparently he is already back in the mix


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  • Registered Users Posts: 924 ✭✭✭DiscoStew


    Apparently he is already back in the mix

    Happy if that is the case. But it’s certainly based off past performances & potential rather than club form as some seemed to suggest.

    Overall as many have pointed out it was the county players who stood out most. Oisin O’Gorman had 2 very good games but is still young & maybe lacking in strength for intercounty. Carthach Daly certainly seems like he could bring something but probably needs to develop further physically before joining up. Martin O’Neill had a good campaign and might be worth a look but I think might lack a burst of pace that’s required at the top level. Sam Fitzgerald certainly contained 2 top forwards in the intermediate championship & seems well developed physically to be in a position to come in. A lot of younger players showed glimpses of their ability. Johnny Burke, Rory Furlong, Seán Hickey, Mikey Cummins to name just a few. All are probably another year away from consideration realistically. Colm Roche played great in spells for Shamrocks but had some poor wides in important stages of games. Certainly has the talent but I’d say Cahill might have a question mark over his temperament. DJ Foran played some great stuff for Portlaw & could be in contention again now that the injury problems are behind him. Kevin & Mikey Mahony impressed for Ballygunner also, Kevin seems to be improving rapidly while Mikey’s movement & workrate was excellent all year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Ballygunner beat DLS 4-12 to 0-1 to win u13 final.

    Combined scores for u13 and u14 finals see ballygunner win 10-34 to 0-1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Deisegodeo


    is that joxer from lismore the ballyhale manager ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Deisegodeo wrote: »
    is that joxer from lismore the ballyhale manager ?

    KK senior championship is less competitive than Waterfords. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRSLu964_QgQ_Vx_DfTa_cgZX2A6BNTKXxrbw&usqp=CAU

    What/where is the church in Roanmores creast ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭tommylad1212


    Deisegodeo wrote: »
    is that joxer from lismore the ballyhale manager ?

    Yes first year with them


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    Is it time for a Senior B or Premier intermediate in Waterford in butch football and hurling

    I think a third grade would make the championships more competitive and way more enjoyable


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Mastermcgrath


    Is it time for a Senior B or Premier intermediate in Waterford in butch football and hurling

    I think a third grade would make the championships more competitive and way more enjoyable

    Stop with your common sense. Don’t you know preserving The traditional values of the divisional boards far exceed the importance of improving the standard of games in the county


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Gardner


    Who was playing in Ballyduff Lower last night? Every person there must have come on their own car because there was at least 200 cars all backed up out as far as the main road.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    Stop with your common sense. Don’t you know preserving The traditional values of the divisional boards far exceed the importance of improving the standard of games in the county

    Surely if a club put in a proposal, clubs would back it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭tommylad1212


    Gardner wrote: »
    Who was playing in Ballyduff Lower last night? Every person there must have come on their own car because there was at least 200 cars all backed up out as far as the main road.

    Ladies football comeragh rangers v stradbally


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Mastermcgrath


    Surely if a club put in a proposal, clubs would back it?

    You would think. There have been motions in the past but many club delegates voted to keep the divisional championships because they feel it gives them a better chance of a ‘day out’ and win silverware than all county championship. Particularly the smaller clubs. I’d be al For keeping the junior championships divisional for that reason, but definetly something needs to happen between senior and intermediate.

    At senior you have Ballygunner in a league of their own, and another 4/5 decent senior teams, but after that you have approx 25 teams between senior and intermediate of much the same level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    Senior 8 teams
    Premier Intermediate 8 teams
    Intermediate 8 teams

    The rest can go back to Divisions


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭thesultan


    The Western intermediate is probably the most competitive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Gardner


    Ladies football comeragh rangers v stradbally

    One rule for the Ladies Football another rule for the rest of us in the GAA so


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    mid week games for the senior football

    Tonight- Gaultier vs Kilmacthomas (who played only 4 days ago)

    Weds 9th Sep
    An Rinn vs Bricky Rangers (played on Saturday)
    Kilrossanty vs St Saviours (played on Saturday)
    Clashmore vs Ardmore (played on Saturday)


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭willbeuptuesday


    Please don't even suggest such a thing, what about the East and West Boards? Why would you want to bring Waterford into the 21st centenary. Sure is n't grand the way it is!! Who wants change, sure we are very competitive at all levels.

    Emergingstar- this needed to be done a decade ago, the attendance at Waterford championship games isn't far off what they were before Covid! We need change now not in a few years, the whole thing needs to be looked at. The board are in fairness trying to do this but when it comes to a vote, wait until you see all the auld lads who have no clue what's going on in their own clubs vote to retain the current structures.


  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭tommylad1212


    Gardner wrote: »
    One rule for the Ladies Football another rule for the rest of us in the GAA so

    They could have had one per car ,or let no cars inside the gates so would be out on the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    such a pity were not getting the NHL knockout stages this year. Kilkenny would of been a great test for the squad

    With the temp system for the year, all teams getting thrown in the deep end with a very different championship weather. Bar Laois (and maybe Dublin) this is anyone's All Ireland and it could be extremely competitive. After the last few disappointing years this is a major campaign for us . Cant wait :D:D, such a pity TV is the only way to see it

    Best of luck trying to get social distancing in Waterford (or any other place for that matter) if we go far. Christmas All Ireland :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    SFC Round 2: An Rinn 3-7 Brickeys 2-6, Kilrossanty 3-15 St Saviours 1-18, Clashmore 2-11 Ardmore 0-11, Gaultier 2-10 Kilmac 1-6. Kilmac, St. Saviours and Ardmore are out. The last group of teams are tied and will come down to the last game between Stradbally and An Rinn. Stradbally need to win by 6 to stay in. Ballinacourty, The Nire and Rathgormack look the most impressive teams so far so I'd imagine it will be between one of those 3 that wins though An Rinn or Gaultier(without hurling distractions) could be dark horses.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    SFC Round 2: An Rinn 3-7 Brickeys 2-6, Kilrossanty 3-15 St Saviours 1-18, Clashmore 2-11 Ardmore 0-11, Gaultier 2-10 Kilmac 1-6. Kilmac, St. Saviours and Ardmore are out. The last group of teams are tied and will come down to the last game between Stradbally and An Rinn. Stradbally need to win by 6 to stay in. Ballinacourty, The Nire and Rathgormack look the most impressive teams so far so I'd imagine it will be between one of those 3 that wins though An Rinn or Gaultier(without hurling distractions) could be dark horses.

    Think it will be a Nire vs Ballinacourty final

    I wonder how many dual players are from all the clubs


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    Rathgormack will be winners, think they look a cut above the rest


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭whiteandblue


    Rathgormack will be winners, think they look a cut above the rest

    Rathgormack seem to be the strongest at the minute having won both senior and junior last year and have huge numbers training which is a huge help, as is having 6 county footballers on their panel. I'd put The Nire & Ballinacourty just behind them but both will fancy their chances of winning the Conway back.

    I was shocked to see Stradbally defeated by Brickeys. Hard to know if there's another kick in them and if they could beat An Rinn by the required 6 points but with Brick and the Ahearnes driving them on and An Rinn without Tadhg O hUllachain and Ray O Ceallaigh (Got injured last night), it's definitely possible.

    Rathgormack, The Nire & Ballinacourty should top their group and be seeded for the 1/4 finals with Kilrossanty, Gaultier & Clashmore finishing runners-up while the other group is anyone's guess but with Brickeys through, I think An Rinn should do enough to not lose by 6 to Stradbally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Rathgormack seem to be the strongest at the minute having won both senior and junior last year and have huge numbers training which is a huge help, as is having 6 county footballers on their panel. I'd put The Nire & Ballinacourty just behind them but both will fancy their chances of winning the Conway back.

    I was shocked to see Stradbally defeated by Brickeys. Hard to know if there's another kick in them and if they could beat An Rinn by the required 6 points but with Brick and the Ahearnes driving them on and An Rinn without Tadhg O hUllachain and Ray O Ceallaigh (Got injured last night), it's definitely possible.

    Rathgormack, The Nire & Ballinacourty should top their group and be seeded for the 1/4 finals with Kilrossanty, Gaultier & Clashmore finishing runners-up while the other group is anyone's guess but with Brickeys through, I think An Rinn should do enough to not lose by 6 to Stradbally.

    perhaps Stradballys squad is getting old and becoming a shadow of its former self's


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭upthedeise16


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    perhaps Stradballys squad is getting old and becoming a shadow of its former self's

    I heard this for the last 5 years and they’ve won 2 championships in that time......write off Stradbally at your pearl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Giveitfong


    Team of the Senior Hurling Championship

    One of the beneficial side-effects of the pandemic was the facility to view (for the first time in my case) all the Waterford senior championship games via live stream. This provides the basis for selecting a Team of the Championship.

    It would be easy to just name Ballygunner as the Team of the Championship, such was the ease with which they dispatched all the opponents pitted up against them. However, the way they play as a well-oiled machine isn’t designed to throw up standout individual performances. The emphasis in their game plan is on hard work, excellent first touch and laying the ball off to unmarked team mates. This allows them to give players in the midfield area the space and time to look up and deliver telling ball into the forwards – either stick passes to hand or directed balls into space for the speedy inside men to run on to.

    Part of this is down to individual vision, but the main ingredient is a set of well-rehearsed moves, where players in possession know immediately what the available options will be. As a result, a lot of their scores are tap-overs (or tap-ins) by unmarked players rather than heroic-type scores.

    In any case, for what it’s worth, here is my take on the team of this year’s senior hurling championship. Some of the players named are not named in the positions they actually played in, due to a combination of excellence on the part of the players concerned and a lack of standout performers in certain positions.

    Goalkeeper: Stephen O’Keeffe (Ballygunner)

    Sockie’s main contribution to Ballygunner this year was in delivering the primary possession from which a large proportion of the team’s devastating passing movements originated. This he did through well-directed puckouts and frees and clearances (usually following a pass-back from a team mate).

    Right full-back: Ian Kenny (Ballygunner)

    No contest here. His marking, skill levels, pace and layoffs were all consistently top-class. He should be on the county panel where cover in the corner back positions is thin.

    Full-back: Barry Coughlan (Ballygunner)

    Excellent throughout the championship, and especially in the semi-final and final. Admittedly, the kind of ball being played in by opposition teams suited his close-marking skills, and he almost always had a corner-back for company, allowing him to attack the ball.

    Left corner-back: Conor Prunty (Abbeyside)

    Actually played mostly at centre-back, although better-known at intercounty level as a full-back. He was consistently good for Abbeyside, even when all those around him went missing.

    Right half-back: Shane McNulty (De La Salle)

    Was outstanding in all games played (with the possible exception of the second half of DLS’s game against Mount Sion). Has really benefitted from having a regular starting place on the county team.

    Centre half-back: Philip Mahony (Ballygunner)

    Player of the championship. A constant bulwark against opposition attacks and source of good possession for team mates. Opponents repeatedly played into his hands by playing a long-ball game perfectly suited to the sweeper role which he performs so well.

    Left half-back: Iarlaith Daly (Lismore)

    Mainly played at centre-back, but performed consistently with great assurance in all of Lismore’s games.

    Midfield 1: Paddy Leavy (Ballygunner)

    Although in his second senior year, Leavy emerged as a key player for Ballygunner this year. Really good at making himself available as an outlet for passes, at reading the break of the ball, and moving the ball onto the forwards. His height and strength are great assets in gaining and keeping possession. A real prospect for the future.

    Midfield 2: Martin O’Neill (Mount Sion)

    His return from abroad made a huge contribution to his club’s somewhat revived fortunes this year. Apart from his free-taking, his playmaking was of the highest order.

    Right half-forward: Austlin Gleeson (Mount Sion)

    Lit up games when he got going. His point against Passage in the semif-final was score of the year.

    Centre half-forward: Owen Connors (Passage)

    Provided great leadership for his mainly young team mates and was the key figure in their march to the county final.

    Left half-forward: Jack Prendergast (Lismore)

    Superb in his first three games. Poor sideline management probably the main reason for this anonymity in the semi-final against Ballygunner.

    Right corner-forward: Dessie Hutchinson (Ballygunner)

    What more needs to be said? Apart from his excellent score-taking, he also has great vision and creativity in his play.

    Full forward: Maurice Shanahan (Lismore)

    Produced the individual performance of the year in the group game against Ballysaggart. Also did well in his other games except the semi-final, in which he should have been moved outfield from early on.

    Left corner-forward: Mark Ferncombe (Abbeyside)

    Played very well in all of his three games. Unfortunately for him (and Conor Prunty), the rest of the team underperformed seriously in two of these games.

    Among those players who were also in serious contention were Colm Sheahan and Pauric Mahony (Ballygunner), Cárthach Daly and David Prendergast (Lismore), Seán Walsh (Fourmilewater), Eddie Barrett (De La Salle) and Patrick Curran (Dungarvan).


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭upthedeise16


    Giveitfong wrote: »
    Team of the Senior Hurling Championship

    One of the beneficial side-effects of the pandemic was the facility to view (for the first time in my case) all the Waterford senior championship games via live stream. This provides the basis for selecting a Team of the Championship.

    It would be easy to just name Ballygunner as the Team of the Championship, such was the ease with which they dispatched all the opponents pitted up against them. However, the way they play as a well-oiled machine isn’t designed to throw up standout individual performances. The emphasis in their game plan is on hard work, excellent first touch and laying the ball off to unmarked team mates. This allows them to give players in the midfield area the space and time to look up and deliver telling ball into the forwards – either stick passes to hand or directed balls into space for the speedy inside men to run on to.

    Part of this is down to individual vision, but the main ingredient is a set of well-rehearsed moves, where players in possession know immediately what the available options will be. As a result, a lot of their scores are tap-overs (or tap-ins) by unmarked players rather than heroic-type scores.

    In any case, for what it’s worth, here is my take on the team of this year’s senior hurling championship. Some of the players named are not named in the positions they actually played in, due to a combination of excellence on the part of the players concerned and a lack of standout performers in certain positions.

    Goalkeeper: Stephen O’Keeffe (Ballygunner)

    Sockie’s main contribution to Ballygunner this year was in delivering the primary possession from which a large proportion of the team’s devastating passing movements originated. This he did through well-directed puckouts and frees and clearances (usually following a pass-back from a team mate).

    Right full-back: Ian Kenny (Ballygunner)

    No contest here. His marking, skill levels, pace and layoffs were all consistently top-class. He should be on the county panel where cover in the corner back positions is thin.

    Full-back: Barry Coughlan (Ballygunner)

    Excellent throughout the championship, and especially in the semi-final and final. Admittedly, the kind of ball being played in by opposition teams suited his close-marking skills, and he almost always had a corner-back for company, allowing him to attack the ball.

    Left corner-back: Conor Prunty (Abbeyside)

    Actually played mostly at centre-back, although better-known at intercounty level as a full-back. He was consistently good for Abbeyside, even when all those around him went missing.

    Right half-back: Shane McNulty (De La Salle)

    Was outstanding in all games played (with the possible exception of the second half of DLS’s game against Mount Sion). Has really benefitted from having a regular starting place on the county team.

    Centre half-back: Philip Mahony (Ballygunner)

    Player of the championship. A constant bulwark against opposition attacks and source of good possession for team mates. Opponents repeatedly played into his hands by playing a long-ball game perfectly suited to the sweeper role which he performs so well.

    Left half-back: Iarlaith Daly (Lismore)

    Mainly played at centre-back, but performed consistently with great assurance in all of Lismore’s games.

    Midfield 1: Paddy Leavy (Ballygunner)

    Although in his second senior year, Leavy emerged as a key player for Ballygunner this year. Really good at making himself available as an outlet for passes, at reading the break of the ball, and moving the ball onto the forwards. His height and strength are great assets in gaining and keeping possession. A real prospect for the future.

    Midfield 2: Martin O’Neill (Mount Sion)

    His return from abroad made a huge contribution to his club’s somewhat revived fortunes this year. Apart from his free-taking, his playmaking was of the highest order.

    Right half-forward: Austlin Gleeson (Mount Sion)

    Lit up games when he got going. His point against Passage in the semif-final was score of the year.

    Centre half-forward: Owen Connors (Passage)

    Provided great leadership for his mainly young team mates and was the key figure in their march to the county final.

    Left half-forward: Jack Prendergast (Lismore)

    Superb in his first three games. Poor sideline management probably the main reason for this anonymity in the semi-final against Ballygunner.

    Right corner-forward: Dessie Hutchinson (Ballygunner)

    What more needs to be said? Apart from his excellent score-taking, he also has great vision and creativity in his play.

    Full forward: Maurice Shanahan (Lismore)

    Produced the individual performance of the year in the group game against Ballysaggart. Also did well in his other games except the semi-final, in which he should have been moved outfield from early on.

    Left corner-forward: Mark Ferncombe (Abbeyside)

    Played very well in all of his three games. Unfortunately for him (and Conor Prunty), the rest of the team underperformed seriously in two of these games.

    Among those players who were also in serious contention were Colm Sheahan and Pauric Mahony (Ballygunner), Cárthach Daly and David Prendergast (Lismore), Seán Walsh (Fourmilewater), Eddie Barrett (De La Salle) and Patrick Curran (Dungarvan).

    A great team picked but I’d have Cathrach Daly in the backs ahead of even his brother and Prunty. Felt he was outstanding for Lismore.
    I’d also have Sheehan at midfield and move up O’Neill with Jack Prender losing out.
    For a team that really underperformed, to have 2 Abbeyside lads just doesn’t seem right and I think Padraic Mahonys role in that Ballygunner forward line is underrated so I’d go with the following:
    SOK
    Kenny
    Coughlan
    C Daly
    McNulty
    Mahony
    Prunty
    Sheahan
    Leavy
    Mahony
    Gleeson
    O’Neill
    Hutchison
    Shanahan
    Connors

    Great post though Giveitfong 👌


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,910 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://twitter.com/WaterfordGAA/status/1305220306152423429?s=19

    Stradbally eliminated on points difference

    In regards the hurling, its interesting too see we're done and dusted our hurling championships while other counties are still playing there's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭tommylad1212


    I heard this for the last 5 years and they’ve won 2 championships in that time......write off Stradbally at your pearl

    Wrote off for this year anyway!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    Rathgormack are putting up serious scores


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭whiteandblue


    Wrote off for this year anyway!

    They were unlucky in the end not to get through, won by 5 and had to win by 6. An Rinn will count themselves lucky with their goalkeeper pulling off some fine saves to keep them in the championship. It is the first time since 1984 that Stradbally aren't in the 1/4 final which is some statistic of consistency. If they had the Ahearnes for the Brickeys game, their championship may have been different.

    Rathgormack look to be ahead of the rest but Kilrossanty will be very disappointed to only score a point in the 2nd half against their rivals and I'm sure there will be a kick in them yet. With Declan Browne training them and having reached a final just 2 years ago, they surely can't be as poor as they were yesterday but the Nire will be fancied to account for them in the 1/4's. Ballinacourty put a huge score on Clashmore and will be expected to get over An Rinn while Gaultier really put it up to the Nire and will fancy their chances against the Brickeys.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


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